God and global warming
St. Petersburg Times ^ | September 15, 2005

Science and religion may differ on how we got here, but increasingly there
is little disagreement on where we are headed if we don't begin to address
the causes of climate change. Scientists have long warned of the dangers of
global warming attributed to our profligate use of fossil fuels. Now, one of
the nation's most influential religious groups is delivering the same
message, if based on an alternative standard of proof.

"I had a conversion experience on the climate issue not unlike my conversion
to Christ," Richard Cizik, vice president for governmental affairs at the
National Association of Evangelicals, told the environmental magazine Grist.
"I was at a conference in Oxford where Sir John Houghton, an evangelical
scientist, was presenting evidence of shrinking ice caps, temperatures
tracked for millennia through ice-core data, increasing hurricane intensity,
drought patterns, and so on. I realized all at once, with sudden awe, that
climate change is a phenomenon of truly biblical proportions."

The 30-million-member association, which Cizik says is one of the strongest
voices in the Republican Party, isn't just talking about global warming. It
is taking action. Calling the doctrine "creation care," the association is
conducting a scripture-based campaign to convince its members that they are
"commissioned by God the Almighty to be stewards of the earth."

Cizik doesn't rule out formal collaboration with secular environmental
groups such as the Sierra Club. And the association is preparing a position
paper on global warming policy.

For his part, Cizik is practicing what he preaches. "We sold our RV, which
got about five miles per gallon, and bought a Prius, which gets about 10
times that," he told Grist. "I oughta get a commission from Toyota for the
number of people I've converted to the Prius."

Soon, there will be no haven for those who continue to ignore the
environmental challenges ahead.

Amen!

The core samples indicate that the earth has been both much hotter and much
colder in the past than it has been for the last 6,000 years. There are
cycles of very cold and very hot. We are entering a hot cycle. Burning
fossil fuels adds to the problem. However, burning fossil fuels is to
global warming as a good **** is to the ocean.

If you want to save the World, turn your efforts towards determining how the
World can survive the extreme heat that is inevitable.






"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
God and global warming
St. Petersburg Times ^ | September 15, 2005

Science and religion may differ on how we got here, but increasingly there
is little disagreement on where we are headed if we don't begin to address
the causes of climate change. Scientists have long warned of the dangers
of
global warming attributed to our profligate use of fossil fuels. Now, one
of
the nation's most influential religious groups is delivering the same
message, if based on an alternative standard of proof.

"I had a conversion experience on the climate issue not unlike my
conversion
to Christ," Richard Cizik, vice president for governmental affairs at the
National Association of Evangelicals, told the environmental magazine
Grist.
"I was at a conference in Oxford where Sir John Houghton, an evangelical
scientist, was presenting evidence of shrinking ice caps, temperatures
tracked for millennia through ice-core data, increasing hurricane
intensity,
drought patterns, and so on. I realized all at once, with sudden awe, that
climate change is a phenomenon of truly biblical proportions."

The 30-million-member association, which Cizik says is one of the
strongest
voices in the Republican Party, isn't just talking about global warming.
It
is taking action. Calling the doctrine "creation care," the association is
conducting a scripture-based campaign to convince its members that they
are
"commissioned by God the Almighty to be stewards of the earth."

Cizik doesn't rule out formal collaboration with secular environmental
groups such as the Sierra Club. And the association is preparing a
position
paper on global warming policy.

For his part, Cizik is practicing what he preaches. "We sold our RV, which
got about five miles per gallon, and bought a Prius, which gets about 10
times that," he told Grist. "I oughta get a commission from Toyota for the
number of people I've converted to the Prius."

Soon, there will be no haven for those who continue to ignore the
environmental challenges ahead.

Amen!

The earth is only 6,000 years old.

If anything is dated older than that, it's faulty science.

I suggest you read:

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c012.html

Amen!


"jlrogers" wrote in message
. ..
The core samples indicate that the earth has been both much hotter and
much
colder in the past than it has been for the last 6,000 years. There are
cycles of very cold and very hot. We are entering a hot cycle. Burning
fossil fuels adds to the problem. However, burning fossil fuels is to
global warming as a good **** is to the ocean.

If you want to save the World, turn your efforts towards determining how
the
World can survive the extreme heat that is inevitable.






"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
God and global warming
St. Petersburg Times ^ | September 15, 2005

Science and religion may differ on how we got here, but increasingly
there
is little disagreement on where we are headed if we don't begin to
address
the causes of climate change. Scientists have long warned of the dangers
of
global warming attributed to our profligate use of fossil fuels. Now,
one
of
the nation's most influential religious groups is delivering the same
message, if based on an alternative standard of proof.

"I had a conversion experience on the climate issue not unlike my
conversion
to Christ," Richard Cizik, vice president for governmental affairs at
the
National Association of Evangelicals, told the environmental magazine
Grist.
"I was at a conference in Oxford where Sir John Houghton, an evangelical
scientist, was presenting evidence of shrinking ice caps, temperatures
tracked for millennia through ice-core data, increasing hurricane
intensity,
drought patterns, and so on. I realized all at once, with sudden awe,
that
climate change is a phenomenon of truly biblical proportions."

The 30-million-member association, which Cizik says is one of the
strongest
voices in the Republican Party, isn't just talking about global warming.
It
is taking action. Calling the doctrine "creation care," the association
is
conducting a scripture-based campaign to convince its members that they
are
"commissioned by God the Almighty to be stewards of the earth."

Cizik doesn't rule out formal collaboration with secular environmental
groups such as the Sierra Club. And the association is preparing a
position
paper on global warming policy.

For his part, Cizik is practicing what he preaches. "We sold our RV,
which
got about five miles per gallon, and bought a Prius, which gets about 10
times that," he told Grist. "I oughta get a commission from Toyota for
the
number of people I've converted to the Prius."

Soon, there will be no haven for those who continue to ignore the
environmental challenges ahead.

Amen!

Yeah, but I try not to **** on my friends' heads when I'm taking a wiz.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"jlrogers" wrote in message
. ..
The core samples indicate that the earth has been both much hotter and
much colder in the past than it has been for the last 6,000 years. There
are cycles of very cold and very hot. We are entering a hot cycle.
Burning fossil fuels adds to the problem. However, burning fossil fuels
is to global warming as a good **** is to the ocean.

If you want to save the World, turn your efforts towards determining how
the World can survive the extreme heat that is inevitable.






"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
nk.net...
God and global warming
St. Petersburg Times ^ | September 15, 2005

Science and religion may differ on how we got here, but increasingly
there
is little disagreement on where we are headed if we don't begin to
address
the causes of climate change. Scientists have long warned of the dangers
of
global warming attributed to our profligate use of fossil fuels. Now, one
of
the nation's most influential religious groups is delivering the same
message, if based on an alternative standard of proof.

"I had a conversion experience on the climate issue not unlike my
conversion
to Christ," Richard Cizik, vice president for governmental affairs at the
National Association of Evangelicals, told the environmental magazine
Grist.
"I was at a conference in Oxford where Sir John Houghton, an evangelical
scientist, was presenting evidence of shrinking ice caps, temperatures
tracked for millennia through ice-core data, increasing hurricane
intensity,
drought patterns, and so on. I realized all at once, with sudden awe,
that
climate change is a phenomenon of truly biblical proportions."

The 30-million-member association, which Cizik says is one of the
strongest
voices in the Republican Party, isn't just talking about global warming.
It
is taking action. Calling the doctrine "creation care," the association
is
conducting a scripture-based campaign to convince its members that they
are
"commissioned by God the Almighty to be stewards of the earth."

Cizik doesn't rule out formal collaboration with secular environmental
groups such as the Sierra Club. And the association is preparing a
position
paper on global warming policy.

For his part, Cizik is practicing what he preaches. "We sold our RV,
which
got about five miles per gallon, and bought a Prius, which gets about 10
times that," he told Grist. "I oughta get a commission from Toyota for
the
number of people I've converted to the Prius."

Soon, there will be no haven for those who continue to ignore the
environmental challenges ahead.

Amen!

Facts: The earth has been around for quit a while. The earth warms and
cools in cycles. We MAY be heading into a warm cycle. It probably
doesn't have anything to do with humans. I'd rather live thru a warm
cycle than the next ice age.

It's not clearly defined into warming and cooling for a specific spot.
Places that were warm could come cold and the reverse. A sort of bad example
was in the movie The Day after Tomorrow... dumping a lot of freshwater into
the oceans could trigger a cooling trend, thus an ice age.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
Facts: The earth has been around for quit a while. The earth warms and
cools in cycles. We MAY be heading into a warm cycle. It probably
doesn't have anything to do with humans. I'd rather live thru a warm
cycle than the next ice age.

"jlrogers" wrote

If you want to save the World, turn your efforts towards
determining how the
World can survive the extreme heat that is inevitable.

Air conditioning!

You atre so full of it, you must be cold.
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
It's not clearly defined into warming and cooling for a specific spot.
Places that were warm could come cold and the reverse. A sort of bad
example was in the movie The Day after Tomorrow... dumping a lot of
freshwater into the oceans could trigger a cooling trend, thus an ice age.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
Facts: The earth has been around for quit a while. The earth warms and
cools in cycles. We MAY be heading into a warm cycle. It probably
doesn't have anything to do with humans. I'd rather live thru a warm
cycle than the next ice age.

"jlrogers" wrote in message
. ..
... dumping a lot of
freshwater into the oceans could trigger a cooling trend,
thus an ice age.


So we *should* **** in the ocean.

A sort of bad example was in the movie The Day after
Tomorrow..

I loved the part in that movie where the group walked from Phila. to
N.Y. in 50 feet of snow in a few hours.