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Waxing in the water.
Talked to a guy in Joisey today as he was waxing a car. He said he
does trucks and boats, too. I mentioned that I just did my boat. He said he does boats in the NYC area while they're in the water. Stands on a dock (apparently a floating one) and does one side, then turns the boat to do the other. I 've never heard of this. Have you? Scotty |
Whats wrong with that?
He's not waxing the bottom is he? I paint my boat while it's in the water. Wax is for kids. Joe |
I have heard of this. Apparently, it looks fine for a few months then flakes
off. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message ... Talked to a guy in Joisey today as he was waxing a car. He said he does trucks and boats, too. I mentioned that I just did my boat. He said he does boats in the NYC area while they're in the water. Stands on a dock (apparently a floating one) and does one side, then turns the boat to do the other. I 've never heard of this. Have you? Scotty |
Scotty wrote:
Talked to a guy in Joisey today as he was waxing a car. He said he does trucks and boats, too. I mentioned that I just did my boat. He said he does boats in the NYC area while they're in the water. Stands on a dock (apparently a floating one) and does one side, then turns the boat to do the other. I 've never heard of this. Have you? Sure. Where have you been? JG wrote: I have heard of this. Apparently, it looks fine for a few months then flakes off. Hasn't happened to any boats I've waxed in the water. We use 3-M stuff and a 10" RO buffer. Works like a champ as long as you don't drop the buffer in the water. DSK |
"DSK" wrote in message ... Scotty wrote: Talked to a guy in Joisey today as he was waxing a car. He said he does trucks and boats, too. I mentioned that I just did my boat. He said he does boats in the NYC area while they're in the water. Stands on a dock (apparently a floating one) and does one side, then turns the boat to do the other. I 've never heard of this. Have you? Sure. Where have you been? I've been everywhere, man.....I've been everywhere. JG wrote: I have heard of this. Apparently, it looks fine for a few months then flakes off. Hasn't happened to any boats I've waxed in the water. We use 3-M stuff and a 10" RO buffer. Works like a champ as long as you don't drop the buffer in the water. Why would it 'flake off' ? SV |
"DSK" wrote in message Scotty wrote: Talked to a guy in Joisey today as he was waxing a car. He said he does trucks and boats, too. I mentioned that I just did my boat. He said he does boats in the NYC area while they're in the water. Stands on a dock (apparently a floating one) and does one side, then turns the boat to do the other. I 've never heard of this. Have you? Sure. Where have you been? Around here nearly all the detail companies wax their customers' boats ITW. Only the marinas pull them, and that's rare. I've seen some do as Scooter says (turning the boat and waxing from the dock), and some use inflatables and battery-operated buffers. One woman uses a bosun's chair to do the topsides of larger sailboats. She hangs from a multipart extension of the main halyard and moves around the boat, adjusting her control line as she goes. Seems to work well. JG wrote: I have heard of this. Apparently, it looks fine for a few months then flakes off. Hasn't happened to any boats I've waxed in the water. This sounds like the old complaint that water-based bottom paints shed as soon as the boat leaves its slip. Sounds like more hogwash to me. Wax is wax, whether applied on the hard or ITW. We use 3-M stuff and a 10" RO buffer. Works like a champ as long as you don't drop the buffer in the water. No doubt you've seen "Groundhog Day." Bull |
Scotty wrote:
I've been everywhere, man.....I've been everywhere. That's good, but have you been to nowhere? JG wrote: I have heard of this. Apparently, it looks fine for a few months then flakes off. Why would it 'flake off' ? I dunno. Cheap wax? Using a drill with a disc as a "buffer"? Does Bubbles have this problem too? ;) DSK |
DSK wrote: Scotty wrote: I've been everywhere, man.....I've been everywhere. That's good, but have you been to nowhere? C'mon DOug, he's just humming along! You're not _that_ young not to know the song... -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- http://www.ace.net.au/schooner http://music.download.com/internetopera http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm |
Flying Tadpole wrote:
C'mon DOug, he's just humming along! You're not _that_ young not to know the song... Oops... well I may not be too young but I still don't know the song. DSK |
DSK wrote: Flying Tadpole wrote: C'mon DOug, he's just humming along! You're not _that_ young not to know the song... Oops... well I may not be too young but I still don't know the song. DSK http://www.twin-music.com/azlyrics/c...s/cash/i2.html You're welcome! FT |
Doug, this is a tad OT, but I am wondering how far you are from the Oriental
area? My Brother and I were looking at some property there and I was wondering about water depths in the Neuse and creeks in that area. We each have small sailboats (Cal-25 and Matilda 20) and would like to keep them wet if we could. We would need 5 ft at low water for the Cal. Also, broadband connections are a necessity. Any ideas on what is available? The RE agent was more interested in selling than answering these questions. Thanks. Regards, JR -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Eliminate annoying spam! My mailbox is protected by iHateSpam, the #1-rated spam buster." http://www.ihatespam.net "DSK" wrote in message ... Scotty wrote: Talked to a guy in Joisey today as he was waxing a car. He said he does trucks and boats, too. I mentioned that I just did my boat. He said he does boats in the NYC area while they're in the water. Stands on a dock (apparently a floating one) and does one side, then turns the boat to do the other. I 've never heard of this. Have you? Sure. Where have you been? JG wrote: I have heard of this. Apparently, it looks fine for a few months then flakes off. Hasn't happened to any boats I've waxed in the water. We use 3-M stuff and a 10" RO buffer. Works like a champ as long as you don't drop the buffer in the water. DSK |
JR wrote:
Doug, this is a tad OT, but I am wondering how far you are from the Oriental area? You mean right this minute, or where we keep the boat? In either case I'm quite familiar with Oriental and the whole Pamlico and/or Beaufort County area... btw the town of Beaufort is in Carteret County. My Brother and I were looking at some property there Let me guess... you like it because it's been described as an "undiscovered little old-time village." Nobdy seems to wonder why they're building a 4-lane to the place! My advice... it is a nice place after all... but don't buy property there. Construction is really expensive & hasslesome, plus you might find your property is actually a swamp. Buy a nice house from the estate of some recent retirees who moved there. Make sure you know exactly what happened to the place during the last few hurricanes! .... and I was wondering about water depths in the Neuse and creeks in that area. Shallow & muddy. We each have small sailboats (Cal-25 and Matilda 20) and would like to keep them wet if we could. That part is easy. Lots & lots of slips in the area. We would need 5 ft at low water for the Cal. That's doable, but less would be better. It's kind of like the Chesapeake, only shallower. With 5' you can sail many places but also are likely to find quite a few places to get stuck when anchoring out. Also, broadband connections are a necessity. Any ideas on what is available? The RE agent was more interested in selling than answering these questions. I don't know if any kind of broadband is available in Oriental. However I know there is DSL in Bayboro so it won't be too long coming. Cable modem, maybe? Regards Doug King |
Flying Tadpole wrote:
http://www.twin-music.com/azlyrics/c...s/cash/i2.html You're welcome! Now that's embarassing... I didn't recognize a Johnny Cash song??!?! I'm going to spend the rest of the day listening to the man in black to try and make up for it... DSK |
Thanks for the quick reply, Doug.
It is a lovely town, but it sounds like that area is going to be "Florida North" soon. Thanks again. Regards, JR -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Eliminate annoying spam! My mailbox is protected by iHateSpam, the #1-rated spam buster." http://www.ihatespam.net "DSK" wrote in message . .. JR wrote: Doug, this is a tad OT, but I am wondering how far you are from the Oriental area? You mean right this minute, or where we keep the boat? In either case I'm quite familiar with Oriental and the whole Pamlico and/or Beaufort County area... btw the town of Beaufort is in Carteret County. My Brother and I were looking at some property there Let me guess... you like it because it's been described as an "undiscovered little old-time village." Nobdy seems to wonder why they're building a 4-lane to the place! My advice... it is a nice place after all... but don't buy property there. Construction is really expensive & hasslesome, plus you might find your property is actually a swamp. Buy a nice house from the estate of some recent retirees who moved there. Make sure you know exactly what happened to the place during the last few hurricanes! .... and I was wondering about water depths in the Neuse and creeks in that area. Shallow & muddy. We each have small sailboats (Cal-25 and Matilda 20) and would like to keep them wet if we could. That part is easy. Lots & lots of slips in the area. We would need 5 ft at low water for the Cal. That's doable, but less would be better. It's kind of like the Chesapeake, only shallower. With 5' you can sail many places but also are likely to find quite a few places to get stuck when anchoring out. Also, broadband connections are a necessity. Any ideas on what is available? The RE agent was more interested in selling than answering these questions. I don't know if any kind of broadband is available in Oriental. However I know there is DSL in Bayboro so it won't be too long coming. Cable modem, maybe? Regards Doug King |
That's what I heard... don't know why.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scotty" wrote in message ... "DSK" wrote in message ... Scotty wrote: Talked to a guy in Joisey today as he was waxing a car. He said he does trucks and boats, too. I mentioned that I just did my boat. He said he does boats in the NYC area while they're in the water. Stands on a dock (apparently a floating one) and does one side, then turns the boat to do the other. I 've never heard of this. Have you? Sure. Where have you been? I've been everywhere, man.....I've been everywhere. JG wrote: I have heard of this. Apparently, it looks fine for a few months then flakes off. Hasn't happened to any boats I've waxed in the water. We use 3-M stuff and a 10" RO buffer. Works like a champ as long as you don't drop the buffer in the water. Why would it 'flake off' ? SV |
"Admiral Halsey" wrote Around here nearly all the detail companies wax their customers' boats ITW. Where is here? Only the marinas pull them, and that's rare. I've seen some do as Scooter says (turning the boat and waxing from the dock), and some use inflatables and battery-operated buffers. One woman uses a bosun's chair to do the topsides of larger sailboats. She hangs from a multipart extension of the main halyard and moves around the boat, adjusting her control line as she goes. Seems to work well. Do you know what they charge. The guy I talked to said $250 for a 30'er. I believe I heard $10 / foot elsewhere. Scotty |
"DSK" wrote in message .. . Scotty wrote: I've been everywhere, man.....I've been everywhere. That's good, but have you been to nowhere? And back! I dunno. Cheap wax? Using a drill with a disc as a "buffer"? Does Bubbles have this problem too? ;) No. He doesn't have a boat. ;o Scotty |
I know it as a Johnny Cash song. Did someone do it before him, old
timer? Scotty "Flying Tadpole" wrote in message ... DSK wrote: Scotty wrote: I've been everywhere, man.....I've been everywhere. That's good, but have you been to nowhere? C'mon DOug, he's just humming along! You're not _that_ young not to know the song... -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- http://www.ace.net.au/schooner http://music.download.com/internetopera http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm |
And you call yourself a Southerner?!! phewshaw!
Scotty "DSK" wrote in message . .. Flying Tadpole wrote: C'mon DOug, he's just humming along! You're not _that_ young not to know the song... Oops... well I may not be too young but I still don't know the song. DSK |
Scotty wrote: "DSK" wrote in message .. . Scotty wrote: I've been everywhere, man.....I've been everywhere. That's good, but have you been to nowhere? And back! It was a not-thought-out question too, as we've not only been nowhere and but also getting nowhere since LP & Neal summoned their familiars. -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- http://music.download.com/timfatchen http://music.download.com/internetopera http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm |
Just killfile them or ignore them. The more you respond to them the
more harm you do. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.cum "Flying Tadpole" wrote in message ... Scotty wrote: "DSK" wrote in message .. . Scotty wrote: I've been everywhere, man.....I've been everywhere. That's good, but have you been to nowhere? And back! It was a not-thought-out question too, as we've not only been nowhere and but also getting nowhere since LP & Neal summoned their familiars. -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- http://music.download.com/timfatchen http://music.download.com/internetopera http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm |
Must you gay up every post? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.cum "Scotty" wrote in message ... I know it as a Johnny Cash song. Did someone do it before him |
"DSK" wrote in message I don't know if any kind of broadband is available in Oriental. However I know there is DSL in Bayboro so it won't be too long coming. Cable modem, maybe? There must be some means of high-speed transfer. See: http://www.towndock.net/harborcam.shtml That's Oriental Harbor you're looking at, replete with the shrimping fleet. Public docks are along the street and to the left. They recently upgraded to a new higher-res cam, which improved image quality immensely. On our office DSL, the image comes up in less than a second. Bull |
"Scotty" wrote in message "Admiral Halsey" wrote Around here nearly all the detail companies wax their customers' boats ITW. Where is here? Lake Michigan. Only the marinas pull them, and that's rare. I've seen some do as Scooter says (turning the boat and waxing from the dock), and some use inflatables and battery-operated buffers. One woman uses a bosun's chair to do the topsides of larger sailboats. She hangs from a multipart extension of the main halyard and moves around the boat, adjusting her control line as she goes. Seems to work well. Do you know what they charge. The guy I talked to said $250 for a 30'er. I believe I heard $10 / foot elsewhere. Not sure, but more than I'm willing to pay, no doubt. Bull |
I don't know if any kind of broadband is available in Oriental. However I
know there is DSL in Bayboro so it won't be too long coming. Cable modem, maybe? There must be some means of high-speed transfer. See: http://www.towndock.net/harborcam.shtml That's Oriental Harbor you're looking at, replete with the shrimping fleet. Public docks are along the street and to the left. They recently upgraded to a new higher-res cam, which improved image quality immensely. On our office DSL, the image comes up in less than a second. You may be right... OTOH that server may not be in Oriental. When that web site was first started, it was in Greenville. The public docks "along the street" are suitable for jonboats. The short finger pier, with the little trawler and the sailboat, is somewhat problematic... notice how the sailboat is tied up bow-in? They're probably aground. I'm surprised to see so many shrimp boats in the harbor this morning. I wonder if most of the fleet is idle. The small building in the foreground on the left is a coffee shop. Looks like business is pretty good. The anchorage is out beyond the sterns of the row of shrimpers on the right. There is a new marina that takes up most of the old anchorage around the corner. You can see the loom of the open Neuse River in the distance to the left. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
"DSK" wrote in message You may be right... OTOH that server may not be in Oriental. When that web site was first started, it was in Greenville. It IS in Oriental. It's managed by a local there, whom we met when there year before last. I'm surprised to see so many shrimp boats in the harbor this morning. I wonder if most of the fleet is idle. It varies from day to day. I know absolutely nothing about shrimping. But I assume there are good days for it, and bad ones. After we live there a while we'll no doubt learn more about it. By the way, one can buy fresh shrimp at the docks there, when the boats come in. Apparently they are okay with the company to do so. The small building in the foreground on the left is a coffee shop. Looks like business is pretty good. That little place used to be the Oriental Trading Co. prior to Isabel, when it flooded out and wiped out half their inventory. They're across the street and down to the right now. The anchorage is out beyond the sterns of the row of shrimpers on the right. There is a new marina that takes up most of the old anchorage around the corner. You can see the loom of the open Neuse River in the distance to the left. I believe that's right. The water straight out is Smith Creek, but I think that's the Neuse off to the left. It's the largest river in the USA, nearly 5 miles across at that point. Incidentally, I've assumed that four-lane headed into Oriental was primarily to provide faster access to the Minnesott ferry. Am I off-base on that? Bull |
"Admiral Halsey" wrote . It varies from day to day. I know absolutely nothing about shrimping. Bubba knows shrimp. http://www.bubbagump.com/ -- Scotty, A Snark that actually gets sailed would be a better choice than any boat that only gets used as a bragging implement on the Internet. |
I'm surprised to see so many shrimp boats in the harbor this morning. I
wonder if most of the fleet is idle. Admiral Halsey wrote: It varies from day to day. I know absolutely nothing about shrimping. But you're going to tell us about it anyway. ... But I assume there are good days for it, and bad ones. Those are the big boys... they go from Mexico to New England, often out hauling for a week. Check the web cam archive to see when they arrive leave. The shrimpers that have to wait for a good day are much much smaller. ... After we live there a while we'll no doubt learn more about it. By the way, one can buy fresh shrimp at the docks there, when the boats come in. Really? Who'd a thunk it? The small building in the foreground on the left is a coffee shop. Looks like business is pretty good. That little place used to be the Oriental Trading Co. prior to Isabel I didn't say what it *used* to be, I said what it is now. You want the history of most of the town buildings? I go to Oriental fairly often, starting in about 1968. Nowadays I have family there. The anchorage is out beyond the sterns of the row of shrimpers on the right. There is a new marina that takes up most of the old anchorage around the corner. You can see the loom of the open Neuse River in the distance to the left. I believe that's right. Good. Incidentally, I've assumed that four-lane headed into Oriental was primarily to provide faster access to the Minnesott ferry. Am I off-base on that? Yep. It's for the blue-hairs who want to shop at the Wal-Mart in New Bern and can't be bothered to wait behind the tractors that are often on the road between New Bern & Oriental. Not many people use the Minnesott ferry, I've rarely seen it more than half full. DSK |
"DSK" wrote in message I'm surprised to see so many shrimp boats in the harbor this morning. I wonder if most of the fleet is idle. Admiral Halsey wrote: It varies from day to day. I know absolutely nothing about shrimping. But you're going to tell us about it anyway. ... But I assume there are good days for it, and bad ones. Those are the big boys... they go from Mexico to New England, often out hauling for a week. Check the web cam archive to see when they arrive leave. The shrimpers that have to wait for a good day are much much smaller. See, you know more about it than I do. But I must admit I'm surprised they only go out for a week. The sword boats go out for a month or more at a time. ... After we live there a while we'll no doubt learn more about it. By the way, one can buy fresh shrimp at the docks there, when the boats come in. Really? Who'd a thunk it? That's not the case as many places. Here in the GLs we can't generally buy fish off the boats. Some of the boats are owned by the wholesaler/retailer, and some have contracts with them. Either way, the boat owners are prohibited from selling directly. The small building in the foreground on the left is a coffee shop. Looks like business is pretty good. That little place used to be the Oriental Trading Co. prior to Isabel I didn't say what it *used* to be, I said what it is now. You want the history of most of the town buildings? I go to Oriental fairly often, starting in about 1968. Nowadays I have family there. My, but you're testy tonight. I wasn't challenging your knowledge--only updating what you said. Take a Prozac and call me in the morning. The anchorage is out beyond the sterns of the row of shrimpers on the right. There is a new marina that takes up most of the old anchorage around the corner. You can see the loom of the open Neuse River in the distance to the left. I believe that's right. Good. Incidentally, I've assumed that four-lane headed into Oriental was primarily to provide faster access to the Minnesott ferry. Am I off-base on that? Yep. It's for the blue-hairs who want to shop at the Wal-Mart in New Bern and can't be bothered to wait behind the tractors that are often on the road between New Bern & Oriental. Not many people use the Minnesott ferry, I've rarely seen it more than half full. I don't buy that for a moment. That sounds like a typical "I hate anyone who wasn't born here" sort of mentality. It's highly unlikely that NC would go to the tremendous expense to put four lanes in for the convenience of the relatively few residents in the greater Oriental area. For increased tourism? Perhaps. To accommodate the ferry traffic? Maybe. To gratify a few transplanted New Yorkers who want rapid transit to New Bern? Not likely. We were there in December '03, and both boats were full, or almost, every trip, even at the end of the day. On two occasions we had to wait for the second boat. NC is to be commended for its free ferries, and even the ones that charge are reasonable. Bull |
Admiral Halsey wrote:
See, you know more about it than I do. But I must admit I'm surprised they only go out for a week. The sword boats go out for a month or more at a time. It varies. Depends on how close to home they are trawling and how long it takes them to fill up. The Oriental boats are among the better built & equipped, and usually the captains are rather savvy. Many of them will still trawl right down the middle of the channel though, dammit. That's not the case as many places. Here in the GLs we can't generally buy fish off the boats. Some of the boats are owned by the wholesaler/retailer, and some have contracts with them. Either way, the boat owners are prohibited from selling directly. Isn't that kinda dumb? Do the fish wholesalers have a stronger lobby? This kind of interference in free markets is one of things that make me sceptical of some recent "conservative" economic claims. That little place used to be the Oriental Trading Co. prior to Isabel I didn't say what it *used* to be, I said what it is now. You want the history of most of the town buildings? I go to Oriental fairly often, starting in about 1968. Nowadays I have family there. My, but you're testy tonight. Sorry, didn't mean to be testy. But most of the buildings along the "main drag" in Oriental have changed many times over the past 15 years. Tourism & retirees have been an uncertain bonus for the local economy. Incidentally, I've assumed that four-lane headed into Oriental was primarily to provide faster access to the Minnesott ferry. Am I off-base on that? Yep. It's for the blue-hairs who want to shop at the Wal-Mart in New Bern and can't be bothered to wait behind the tractors that are often on the road between New Bern & Oriental. Not many people use the Minnesott ferry, I've rarely seen it more than half full. I don't buy that for a moment. That sounds like a typical "I hate anyone who wasn't born here" sort of mentality. Oh, I don't hate them. Many of them are nice folks, although prone to complain too much. ... It's highly unlikely that NC would go to the tremendous expense to put four lanes in for the convenience of the relatively few residents in the greater Oriental area. There's where you're making your mistake. "Relatively few residents." Look at the map of eastern NC... doesn't have to be a small scale or topo map, the road atlas will do. Notice the peninsula between the Neuse & Pamlico Rivers, between Little Washington and New Bern. Unexplored jungle & swamp, right? A few quaint sleepy villages with dogs on front porches and no stop lights, right? Wrong. It's full. Huge phosphate plant and mile after mile of suburban homes built in the former swamp. The rate of expansion is actually slowing down because they're running out of "land" soupy enough to hold up a house. Used to be a lot of tobacco & turkey farms in the area, but lately the county has jacked up taxes to where only expensive houses will turn a profit. I suggest you drive Hwy 55 a few times and see what you think. There are still a few relatively rural spots left, but it's being aggrssively marketed as something it ain't. It's mostly retirees, which ought to suit the real estate agents just fine as they can resell the house quickly, but I guess they're just greedy. Also the NC legislature has been very complicit in overdeveloping the whole coastal area. About 20 years ago they got the bright idea to turn it into a combination of Florida North and New Jersey South. By now the process is almost complete. We were there in December '03, and both boats were full, or almost, every trip, even at the end of the day. On two occasions we had to wait for the second boat. NC is to be commended for its free ferries, and even the ones that charge are reasonable. OK, that's a new one on me. Weekend traffic maybe? I've never heard of anybody having to wait for a second boat before. Often I've taken the ferry as a pleasant afternoon break and been the only car on board. BTW the ferries aren't free. They're paid for out of tax money, of course! |
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