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Scotty April 2nd 05 09:22 AM

Pathetic Neal
 
it's so pathetic the way you let Katy and Gaynz get to you. I thought
better of you......before.

Scotty



Lady Pilot April 2nd 05 09:40 AM


"Scotty" wrote:
it's so pathetic the way you let Katy and Gaynz get to you. I thought
better of you......before.


katysails and Ganz didn't get to anyone, much less Capt. Neal.

At least Ganz is a tad smarter not saying much than katysails because he
didn't brag in several posts claiming he got Capt. Neal tossed from his NSP.

What brought these posters over here is me cross-posting KATY's posts to
people who believe in freedom of speech. So in fact, I can't say that I
brought those people here, KATY's own words brought those people here!
Nothing more, nothing less.

I think it's pathetic how katysails and ganz let Capt. Neal and I get under
their skin.

LP



Wally April 2nd 05 10:12 AM

Lady Pilot wrote:

What brought these posters over here is me cross-posting KATY's posts
to people who believe in freedom of speech. So in fact, I can't say
that I brought those people here, KATY's own words brought those
people here!


You cross-posted *knowing* that they'd come in here and bomb the place. When
attempting to claim the moral high ground, it's usually a good idea not to
bull**** in the process.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk



Lady Pilot April 2nd 05 11:01 AM


"Wally" wrote:
Lady Pilot wrote:

What brought these posters over here is me cross-posting KATY's posts
to people who believe in freedom of speech. So in fact, I can't say
that I brought those people here, KATY's own words brought those
people here!


You cross-posted *knowing* that they'd come in here and bomb the place.
When
attempting to claim the moral high ground, it's usually a good idea not to
bull**** in the process.


I've can honestly say that I've *never* sent an abuse complaint to anyone's
NSP or ISP. If that's the "moral high ground" you speak of, then I guess
you are right.

Regarding bull****, I can't hold a candle to this newsgroup.

LP



Wally April 2nd 05 11:35 AM

Lady Pilot wrote:

I've can honestly say that I've *never* sent an abuse complaint to
anyone's NSP or ISP.


Ignoratio Elenchi. What are you talking about?


If that's the "moral high ground" you speak of,
then I guess you are right.


It isn't. You said that Katy mouthing off about being a netcop was what
brought the horde of locusts in here, but it wasn't. It was you running to a
gang of playground bullies, shouting, "Look what she said! Look what she
said!", knowing that it would mess up the group for everyone . She didn't do
it, you did.

FWIW, if Katy wants to netcop someone, she should keep her trap shut and get
on with it - the fact that the lot of you have to make such a song and dance
of of it in here is, frankly, pathetic.

While I support the principle of free speech in usenet, we are all
ultimately bound by the dictat of our service providers (and service
providers themselves are bound by the conditions of their peering
arrangements with other service providers). Those who choose to step outside
of that dictat are fair game to those who choose to netcop. You can wave a
banner claiming that you can do whatever you like all you want, but the
truth of the matter is that that isn't really the case. Like it or not,
there *are* rules.

What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person. If Neal stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just tough
**** - tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here. You and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is ****ing
everybody off - Katy isn't the source of disrupton to the normal business of
this group, you two are. The fact that Neal deliberately stepped outside
individual.net's TOS, knowing that his account was about to close anyway, is
telling.

You two are behaving like a pair of sad little trouble makers - why don't
you go sailing with him again? That was *far* more interesting and enjoyable
than this ****.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk



Lady Pilot April 2nd 05 12:39 PM


"Wally" wrote:
Lady Pilot wrote:

I can honestly say that I've *never* sent an abuse complaint to
anyone's NSP or ISP.


Ignoratio Elenchi.


Name calling doesn't suit you, Wally.

What are you talking about?


I've been in a flame war that lasted for several years, but I never
netkkkoped anyone. (i.e., sent an abuse complaint)
NSP = News Service Provider
ISP = Internet Service Provider

If that's the "moral high ground" you speak of,
then I guess you are right.


It isn't. You said that Katy mouthing off about being a netcop was what
brought the horde of locusts in here, but it wasn't.


Sure it is, I have personal knowledge of this.

It was you running to a
gang of playground bullies, shouting, "Look what she said! Look what she
said!", knowing that it would mess up the group for everyone .


Nah, they could care less what katywails said, as long as it's not
threatning to report someone and get their account pulled.

She didn't do
it, you did.


Nope, you are wrong. But unlike katywails or Ganz, I won't report you to
your provider just because we have a difference of opinion or I don't like
what you say.


FWIW, if Katy wants to netcop someone, she should keep her trap shut and
get
on with it -


Actually, I'm glad she announced it. Now everyone will know that she can't
be a trusted friend. Gives the group prospective on katy's true character.

While I support the principle of free speech in usenet,


No you don't, it's obvious by your own words.

we are all
ultimately bound by the dictat of our service providers (and service
providers themselves are bound by the conditions of their peering
arrangements with other service providers). Those who choose to step
outside
of that dictat are fair game to those who choose to netcop. You can wave a
banner claiming that you can do whatever you like all you want, but the
truth of the matter is that that isn't really the case. Like it or not,
there *are* rules.


Different news servers have different rules. If individual.net wants to
toss someone for a flame war or calling people names, they won't be around
very long.

Tell me, Wally, what did I do for katywails to netcop me? Hmmm? The fact
of the matter is that katywails got ****ed at Capt. Neal and decided to take
her wrath out on me. That's the facts, whether you want to accept it or
not. That's why I haven't so much as received an e-mail from my ISP. All
other complaints about me will now probably be tossed in the recycle bin.
News admin's have better things to do with their time than listen to some
old menopausal woman whine about losing a flame war.

What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person.


No one is being punished. Use your kill file, that's what it's there for,
Wally.

You haven't asked for my advice, but I will give it for the sake of the
group. Don't respond to anyone regarding this mess. People like Scotty,
Thom, Cairns, and others defending katy and Ganz is only going to prolong
their visit.

If Neal stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just tough
**** -


Yes, and the same is true about katysails. If she gets spammed, a trojan or
someone takes control of her computer, that's her fault because she *chose*
to netkkkop someone and then brag about it, which is such a gaynzy way of
life.

tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here.


So you're saying you want more disruption to the newgroup? whatever

I subscribed to this newsgroup because it *was* a lot of fun. It stopped
being fun when katywails and ganzy went on their professed netkkkopping
spree.

If katy would have just stuck Capt. Neal in her kill file, this wouldn't
have been happening right now. She's incredibly stupid for a woman of her
age. She's been around usenet long enough to know better!

You and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is ****ing
everybody off -


Nope, I've never claimed any such thing. Please post proof of your
accusation. I'm claiming that ***katywails*** brought this upon the
newsgroup by her and ganzy netkkkoping. How many times does that need to be
repeated before people here get that thru their thick skulls?

You two are behaving like a pair of sad little trouble makers - why don't
you go sailing with him again? That was *far* more interesting and
enjoyable
than this ****.


How do you know that we aren't planning to go sailing again soon?
Katysails became enraged the last time we went sailing for 9 days around the
Keys and Gulf Stream.

Has anyone in this newsgroup ever been *sailing* in the Gulf Stream? We all
know that Jax can't even find the Gulf Stream!

LP



JR Gilbreath April 2nd 05 12:44 PM

Lady Pilot wrote:
"Wally" wrote:

Lady Pilot wrote:


I can honestly say that I've *never* sent an abuse complaint to
anyone's NSP or ISP.


Ignoratio Elenchi.



Name calling doesn't suit you, Wally.


What are you talking about?



I've been in a flame war that lasted for several years, but I never
netkkkoped anyone. (i.e., sent an abuse complaint)
NSP = News Service Provider
ISP = Internet Service Provider


If that's the "moral high ground" you speak of,
then I guess you are right.


It isn't. You said that Katy mouthing off about being a netcop was what
brought the horde of locusts in here, but it wasn't.



Sure it is, I have personal knowledge of this.


It was you running to a
gang of playground bullies, shouting, "Look what she said! Look what she
said!", knowing that it would mess up the group for everyone .



Nah, they could care less what katywails said, as long as it's not
threatning to report someone and get their account pulled.


She didn't do
it, you did.



Nope, you are wrong. But unlike katywails or Ganz, I won't report you to
your provider just because we have a difference of opinion or I don't like
what you say.


FWIW, if Katy wants to netcop someone, she should keep her trap shut and
get
on with it -



Actually, I'm glad she announced it. Now everyone will know that she can't
be a trusted friend. Gives the group prospective on katy's true character.


While I support the principle of free speech in usenet,



No you don't, it's obvious by your own words.


we are all
ultimately bound by the dictat of our service providers (and service
providers themselves are bound by the conditions of their peering
arrangements with other service providers). Those who choose to step
outside
of that dictat are fair game to those who choose to netcop. You can wave a
banner claiming that you can do whatever you like all you want, but the
truth of the matter is that that isn't really the case. Like it or not,
there *are* rules.



Different news servers have different rules. If individual.net wants to
toss someone for a flame war or calling people names, they won't be around
very long.

Tell me, Wally, what did I do for katywails to netcop me? Hmmm? The fact
of the matter is that katywails got ****ed at Capt. Neal and decided to take
her wrath out on me. That's the facts, whether you want to accept it or
not. That's why I haven't so much as received an e-mail from my ISP. All
other complaints about me will now probably be tossed in the recycle bin.
News admin's have better things to do with their time than listen to some
old menopausal woman whine about losing a flame war.


What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person.



No one is being punished. Use your kill file, that's what it's there for,
Wally.

You haven't asked for my advice, but I will give it for the sake of the
group. Don't respond to anyone regarding this mess. People like Scotty,
Thom, Cairns, and others defending katy and Ganz is only going to prolong
their visit.


If Neal stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just tough
**** -



Yes, and the same is true about katysails. If she gets spammed, a trojan or
someone takes control of her computer, that's her fault because she *chose*
to netkkkop someone and then brag about it, which is such a gaynzy way of
life.


tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here.



So you're saying you want more disruption to the newgroup? whatever

I subscribed to this newsgroup because it *was* a lot of fun. It stopped
being fun when katywails and ganzy went on their professed netkkkopping
spree.

If katy would have just stuck Capt. Neal in her kill file, this wouldn't
have been happening right now. She's incredibly stupid for a woman of her
age. She's been around usenet long enough to know better!


You and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is ****ing
everybody off -



Nope, I've never claimed any such thing. Please post proof of your
accusation. I'm claiming that ***katywails*** brought this upon the
newsgroup by her and ganzy netkkkoping. How many times does that need to be
repeated before people here get that thru their thick skulls?


You two are behaving like a pair of sad little trouble makers - why don't
you go sailing with him again? That was *far* more interesting and
enjoyable
than this ****.



How do you know that we aren't planning to go sailing again soon?
Katysails became enraged the last time we went sailing for 9 days around the
Keys and Gulf Stream.

Has anyone in this newsgroup ever been *sailing* in the Gulf Stream? We all
know that Jax can't even find the Gulf Stream!

LP


Hey LP
As far as sailing in the Gulf Stream, I bet my cat has more hours than
Capt Neal. However she doesn't like it.
JR.

Lonny B April 2nd 05 12:54 PM


Whiney LP wrote: Has anyone in this newsgroup ever been *sailing* in the
Gulf Stream?

To say you've sailed the 'Mighty Gulf Stream' is like Ganzy saying he is
just a 'little' gay. Neither one is reflective of the truth.

As the Gulf Steam passes the keys, it is serene. Just a current, nothing
more.

As the Gulf Stream enters the North Atlantic and heads to Europe, that is a
different story. The warm water of the stream set against the cold waters
in the North Atlantic make for an evil combination. This is where the
reputation of the stream comes from, not from the subtropics where you were
sailing.

In the more northerly latitudes, the differences in water temp set up
eddies, and actually can produce it's own weather. Fierce storms are
common, and big winds, when set against the 3 knot current, can produce
uncomfortable wave shapes and patterns.

I have sailed the REAL Gulf Stream, where it matters... in the North
Atlantic. More than once.

Only wannabes would brag about sailing in the Stream in the sub tropics once
(Or in Neal's case Once Upon a Time). Geez.

Lonny B



Lady Pilot April 2nd 05 01:29 PM


"JR Gilbreath" wrote:

As far as sailing in the Gulf Stream, I bet my cat has more hours than
Capt Neal. However she doesn't like it.
JR.


Does your cat have more hours sailing in the Gulf Stream than you do? :-)
You shouldn't throw your cat overboard like that, they can't sail, they
sink.

LP



Lady Pilot April 2nd 05 01:38 PM


Un-informed "Lonny B" drooled this tidbit:

Whiney LP wrote: Has anyone in this newsgroup ever been *sailing* in
the Gulf Stream?

To say you've sailed the 'Mighty Gulf Stream' is like Ganzy saying he is
just a 'little' gay. Neither one is reflective of the truth.


I don't believe the word "mighty" was in what I wrote. (See above).

I have sailed the REAL Gulf Stream, where it matters... in the North
Atlantic. More than once.


Wooo, I think I must have struck a nerve. Hopefully it wasn't your last
nerve...

Only wannabes would brag about sailing in the Stream in the sub tropics
once Geez.


How do you know that I have not been in other parts of the Gulf Stream?

Funny how you read and make up anything you want in your own little mind.
Please post proof about me not sailing in other parts of the Gulf Stream or
be known forever more as the ignorant fool on asa. Thanks!

LP




Wally April 2nd 05 04:27 PM

Lady Pilot wrote:

Ignoratio Elenchi.


Name calling doesn't suit you, Wally.


It's not name-calling (sheesh!tm). It means, roughly, that youre
*ignoring* the issue - it has nothing to do with whether or not you are
*ignorant*. I didn't say, or imply, that you had netcopped anyone - you
didn't answer my point, you responded to some point I didn't make;
consequently, your response above was irrelevant. Which was why I went on to
ask...

What are you talking about?




Actually, I'm glad she announced it. Now everyone will know that she
can't be a trusted friend. Gives the group prospective on katy's
true character.


A trusted friend? Are you living in some sort of virtual fantasy land? This
is *usenet* - these people are *strangers*. There is absolutely no reason to
suppose that the online personas we see here are any sort of reliable
indication of what a person is like in real life. It takes a sight more than
a few words on a screen before I call someone a trusted friend. There are
personas here that I like, am indifferent to, and dislike, but that's all
they are - personas.


Tell me, Wally, what did I do for katywails to netcop me? Hmmm?


Something to with you going sailing with Neal? I don't really know - it
wasn't making a sufficently large blip on the radar to be worth looking at
in any depth.


No one is being punished. Use your kill file, that's what it's there
for, Wally.


You haven't asked for my advice, but I will give it for the sake of
the group. Don't respond to anyone regarding this mess. People like
Scotty, Thom, Cairns, and others defending katy and Ganz is only
going to prolong their visit.


Yes, and the same is true about katysails. If she gets spammed, a
trojan or someone takes control of her computer, that's her fault
because she *chose* to netkkkop someone and then brag about it, which
is such a gaynzy way of life.


You and your buddies choose to trash a whole group, the vast majority of the
subscribers of which are innocent, because you didn't like what she did.


So you're saying you want more disruption to the newgroup? whatever

I subscribed to this newsgroup because it *was* a lot of fun.


That's right, LP. It was a lot of fun. The last time this happened, I
seriously considered leaving. Instead, I spent loads of timing killfiling
one disruptor after another. I'm not sure that I can bothered going through
that crap again. From your (not very) veiled threats of continued
disruption, it would seem that you and your pals are intent on making this
place a pointless place to continue subscribing to.

Is that what you want? A wasteland?






Maxprop April 2nd 05 07:00 PM


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

"Scotty" wrote:
it's so pathetic the way you let Katy and Gaynz get to you. I thought
better of you......before.


katysails and Ganz didn't get to anyone, much less Capt. Neal.

At least Ganz is a tad smarter not saying much than katysails because he
didn't brag in several posts claiming he got Capt. Neal tossed from his
NSP.

What brought these posters over here is me cross-posting KATY's posts to
people who believe in freedom of speech. So in fact, I can't say that I
brought those people here, KATY's own words brought those people here!
Nothing more, nothing less.

I think it's pathetic how katysails and ganz let Capt. Neal and I get
under their skin.

LP




Capt. Neal® April 2nd 05 07:11 PM


"Scotty" wrote in message ...
it's so pathetic the way you let Katy and Gaynz get to you. I thought
better of you......before.

Scotty



Scotty,

Get your head out of your tailpipe. How would you like it if somebody
followed you around when you were driving and called in the Highway
Patrol every time you failed to make a proper signal or exceeded the
speed limit or parked illegally or any number of things you routinely
do? I bet you would be singing a different tune if citizen highwayKKKops
harassed you and had been harassing you for years.

Any person with a teaspoon-full of brain cells can see it is I who played
Catherine Haight and Jonathan Ganz like a finely-tuned violin. I got to
them - not the other way around.

I set up a scenario where they exposed themselves. I knew they both
would holler like stuck pigs judging from their past abuse complaints
if I did certain things. I had the luxury of an expendable server,
individual.net, to use as a tool. I used it. Haight and Ganz were too
stupid to see what I was doing though it was quite obvious. They thought
they were so smart. They used their tried-and-true abuse complaint
methods and bragged about it publicly.

Both did my bidding. They took the proffered bait greedily and then
the jaws of the bear trap snapped shut. Neither sucker realized, until
it was too late what they had done *to themselves*.

Both these netKKKops have been writing abuse complaints for years.
I used their arrogance and stupidity against them and they incriminated
themselves in their glee. Superior intellect trumps stupidity!

Sad that you side with stupid netKKKops, Scott. I thought you were
better than that.

CN

Maxprop April 2nd 05 07:21 PM


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

"Scotty" wrote:
it's so pathetic the way you let Katy and Gaynz get to you. I thought
better of you......before.


katysails and Ganz didn't get to anyone, much less Capt. Neal.


Oh yeah, right. And why did the man with the "wonderful heart" find it
necessary to bombard the NG with several hundred bull**** posts? Was he
frustrated because his cedar bucket was full of something other than shrimp,
and the CG was standing watch to make sure he didn't dump it overboard?

At least Ganz is a tad smarter not saying much than katysails because he
didn't brag in several posts claiming he got Capt. Neal tossed from his
NSP.


For what Mr. Wonderful Heart did, he should have been tossed. Permanently.
His sort of BS is what turns Usenet into Uselessnet. While I've never
turned anyone in (wouldn't know how to do so, frankly) I'm glad someone
does. Actions have consequences. The Capt. is a conservative, and if
anyone should be aware of that, he should. He's been whining like a namby
pamby liberal lately. Most disappointing, and giving honest conservatism a
bad image.

What brought these posters over here is me cross-posting KATY's posts to
people who believe in freedom of speech.


Called in the troops, didja? Can't fight your own battles, so you had to
run to mommy, eh?

So in fact, I can't say that I brought those people here, KATY's own words
brought those people here! Nothing more, nothing less.


Is it considered freedom of speech if I quote you in public with statements
you've never made, especially when they might be damaging to you? Is
freedom of speech afforded to anyone who wishes to say anything at any time?
Is it acceptable, in your vernacular, to yell "FIRE" in a crowded venue?
Mr. Wonderful Heart was posting to this NG using aliases that were precisely
that of others. Personally I wouldn't turn him in, rather I'd prefer to
simply sink his POS boat into that self-created cesspool around his mooring.

I think it's pathetic how katysails and ganz let Capt. Neal and I get

under
their skin.


Yes, that is truly pathetic. Neither you or Mr. Wonderful Heart are worth a
good, resounding fart, much less consternation by others.

And it's "Capt. Neal and *me*, you product of outcome-based education.

Max



Maxprop April 2nd 05 07:21 PM


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

"Scotty" wrote:
it's so pathetic the way you let Katy and Gaynz get to you. I thought
better of you......before.


katysails and Ganz didn't get to anyone, much less Capt. Neal.


Oh yeah, right. And why did the man with the "wonderful heart" find it
necessary to bombard the NG with several hundred bull**** posts? Was he
frustrated because his cedar bucket was full of something other than shrimp,
and the CG was standing watch to make sure he didn't dump it overboard?

At least Ganz is a tad smarter not saying much than katysails because he
didn't brag in several posts claiming he got Capt. Neal tossed from his
NSP.


For what Mr. Wonderful Heart did, he should have been tossed. Permanently.
His sort of BS is what turns Usenet into Uselessnet. While I've never
turned anyone in (wouldn't know how to do so, frankly) I'm glad someone
does. Actions have consequences. The Capt. is a conservative, and if
anyone should be aware of that, he should. He's been whining like a namby
pamby liberal lately. Most disappointing, and giving honest conservatism a
bad image.

What brought these posters over here is me cross-posting KATY's posts to
people who believe in freedom of speech.


Called in the troops, didja? Can't fight your own battles, so you had to
run to mommy, eh?

So in fact, I can't say that I brought those people here, KATY's own words
brought those people here! Nothing more, nothing less.


Is it considered freedom of speech if I quote you in public with statements
you've never made, especially when they might be damaging to you? Is
freedom of speech afforded to anyone who wishes to say anything at any time?
Is it acceptable, in your vernacular, to yell "FIRE" in a crowded venue?
Mr. Wonderful Heart was posting to this NG using aliases that were precisely
that of others. Personally I wouldn't turn him in, rather I'd prefer to
simply sink his POS boat into that self-created cesspool around his mooring.

I think it's pathetic how katysails and ganz let Capt. Neal and I get

under
their skin.


Yes, that is truly pathetic. Neither you or Mr. Wonderful Heart are worth a
good, resounding fart, much less consternation by others.

And it's "Capt. Neal and *me*, you product of outcome-based education.

Max




Maxprop April 2nd 05 07:28 PM


"Wally" wrote in message

Lady Pilot wrote:

Ignoratio Elenchi.


Name calling doesn't suit you, Wally.


It's not name-calling (sheesh!tm). It means, roughly, that youre
*ignoring* the issue - it has nothing to do with whether or not you are
*ignorant*.


Perhaps it should have. g

Max



Scotty April 2nd 05 07:58 PM

Wally, she believes in freedom of speech, for herself only. Screw
everybody else.

SV

"Wally" wrote
You cross-posted *knowing* that they'd come in here and bomb the

place. When
attempting to claim the moral high ground, it's usually a good idea

not to
bull**** in the process.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk





Maxprop April 2nd 05 08:00 PM

I'm a top-posting prick and I retract all the drivel I wrote below.

Max


"Maxprop" wrote in message link.net...

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

"Scotty" wrote:
it's so pathetic the way you let Katy and Gaynz get to you. I thought
better of you......before.


katysails and Ganz didn't get to anyone, much less Capt. Neal.

At least Ganz is a tad smarter not saying much than katysails because he
didn't brag in several posts claiming he got Capt. Neal tossed from his
NSP.

What brought these posters over here is me cross-posting KATY's posts to
people who believe in freedom of speech. So in fact, I can't say that I
brought those people here, KATY's own words brought those people here!
Nothing more, nothing less.

I think it's pathetic how katysails and ganz let Capt. Neal and I get
under their skin.

LP




Maxprop April 2nd 05 08:02 PM

I can't help myself sometime. I'm a top-posting loser who supports
my neighbor and not-so-secret admirer, Katysails..

I retract everything I said below.

Max


"Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net...

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

"Scotty" wrote:
it's so pathetic the way you let Katy and Gaynz get to you. I thought
better of you......before.


katysails and Ganz didn't get to anyone, much less Capt. Neal.


Oh yeah, right. And why did the man with the "wonderful heart" find it
necessary to bombard the NG with several hundred bull**** posts? Was he
frustrated because his cedar bucket was full of something other than shrimp,
and the CG was standing watch to make sure he didn't dump it overboard?

At least Ganz is a tad smarter not saying much than katysails because he
didn't brag in several posts claiming he got Capt. Neal tossed from his
NSP.


For what Mr. Wonderful Heart did, he should have been tossed. Permanently.
His sort of BS is what turns Usenet into Uselessnet. While I've never
turned anyone in (wouldn't know how to do so, frankly) I'm glad someone
does. Actions have consequences. The Capt. is a conservative, and if
anyone should be aware of that, he should. He's been whining like a namby
pamby liberal lately. Most disappointing, and giving honest conservatism a
bad image.

What brought these posters over here is me cross-posting KATY's posts to
people who believe in freedom of speech.


Called in the troops, didja? Can't fight your own battles, so you had to
run to mommy, eh?

So in fact, I can't say that I brought those people here, KATY's own words
brought those people here! Nothing more, nothing less.


Is it considered freedom of speech if I quote you in public with statements
you've never made, especially when they might be damaging to you? Is
freedom of speech afforded to anyone who wishes to say anything at any time?
Is it acceptable, in your vernacular, to yell "FIRE" in a crowded venue?
Mr. Wonderful Heart was posting to this NG using aliases that were precisely
that of others. Personally I wouldn't turn him in, rather I'd prefer to
simply sink his POS boat into that self-created cesspool around his mooring.

I think it's pathetic how katysails and ganz let Capt. Neal and I get

under
their skin.


Yes, that is truly pathetic. Neither you or Mr. Wonderful Heart are worth a
good, resounding fart, much less consternation by others.

And it's "Capt. Neal and *me*, you product of outcome-based education.

Max



Maxprop April 2nd 05 08:03 PM

Boy am I ever drunk. I read that crap I wrote below and now
I'm sorry. I tried to cancell but it doesn't seem to be working.

I'm a drunk idiot .. . Duh

Max


"Maxprop" wrote in message k.net...

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

"Scotty" wrote:
it's so pathetic the way you let Katy and Gaynz get to you. I thought
better of you......before.


katysails and Ganz didn't get to anyone, much less Capt. Neal.


Oh yeah, right. And why did the man with the "wonderful heart" find it
necessary to bombard the NG with several hundred bull**** posts? Was he
frustrated because his cedar bucket was full of something other than shrimp,
and the CG was standing watch to make sure he didn't dump it overboard?

At least Ganz is a tad smarter not saying much than katysails because he
didn't brag in several posts claiming he got Capt. Neal tossed from his
NSP.


For what Mr. Wonderful Heart did, he should have been tossed. Permanently.
His sort of BS is what turns Usenet into Uselessnet. While I've never
turned anyone in (wouldn't know how to do so, frankly) I'm glad someone
does. Actions have consequences. The Capt. is a conservative, and if
anyone should be aware of that, he should. He's been whining like a namby
pamby liberal lately. Most disappointing, and giving honest conservatism a
bad image.

What brought these posters over here is me cross-posting KATY's posts to
people who believe in freedom of speech.


Called in the troops, didja? Can't fight your own battles, so you had to
run to mommy, eh?

So in fact, I can't say that I brought those people here, KATY's own words
brought those people here! Nothing more, nothing less.


Is it considered freedom of speech if I quote you in public with statements
you've never made, especially when they might be damaging to you? Is
freedom of speech afforded to anyone who wishes to say anything at any time?
Is it acceptable, in your vernacular, to yell "FIRE" in a crowded venue?
Mr. Wonderful Heart was posting to this NG using aliases that were precisely
that of others. Personally I wouldn't turn him in, rather I'd prefer to
simply sink his POS boat into that self-created cesspool around his mooring.

I think it's pathetic how katysails and ganz let Capt. Neal and I get

under
their skin.


Yes, that is truly pathetic. Neither you or Mr. Wonderful Heart are worth a
good, resounding fart, much less consternation by others.

And it's "Capt. Neal and *me*, you product of outcome-based education.

Max




Steve Leyland April 3rd 05 06:39 AM

Wally wrote:
: Lady Pilot wrote:
:
:: I've can honestly say that I've *never* sent an abuse complaint to
:: anyone's NSP or ISP.
:
: Ignoratio Elenchi. What are you talking about?

she's saying she isn't a netKKKopping scumbag. capiche?
:
:
:: If that's the "moral high ground" you speak of,
:: then I guess you are right.
:
: It isn't. You said that Katy mouthing off about being a netcop was
: what brought the horde of locusts in here, but it wasn't. It was you
: running to a gang of playground bullies, shouting, "Look what she
: said! Look what she said!", knowing that it would mess up the group
: for everyone . She didn't do it, you did.

lol @ playground bullies. all we are doing is posting mere words.
where is the harm in that?
:
: FWIW, if Katy wants to netcop someone, she should keep her trap shut
: and get on with it - the fact that the lot of you have to make such a
: song and dance of of it in here is, frankly, pathetic.

WRONG. she shouldn't netKKKop at all. doing that is the only pathetic thing
here. she didn't like what someone said so got them cut off. that is just
plain ****ing sad.
:
: While I support the principle of free speech in usenet, we are all
: ultimately bound by the dictat of our service providers (and service
: providers themselves are bound by the conditions of their peering
: arrangements with other service providers). Those who choose to step
: outside of that dictat are fair game to those who choose to netcop.
: You can wave a banner claiming that you can do whatever you like all
: you want, but the truth of the matter is that that isn't really the
: case. Like it or not, there *are* rules.

and then there are some like me who challenge these rules.
guess what, I can get away with it too. grin
if need be I hack into newsservers and can post from almost anywhere in the
world, but I only use these tactics as a last resort.
what I'm hoping for here is that the regulars will persuade the KKKops to
desist from their silly behaviour so that your group can return to normal.
:
: What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless
: crap - punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person. If
: Neal stepped outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then
: that's just tough **** - tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about
: becuase there isn't enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's
: to be had in here. You and Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson,
: but all you're doing is ****ing everybody off - Katy isn't the source
: of disrupton to the normal business of this group, you two are. The
: fact that Neal deliberately stepped outside individual.net's TOS,
: knowing that his account was about to close anyway, is telling.
:
: You two are behaving like a pair of sad little trouble makers - why
: don't you go sailing with him again? That was *far* more interesting
: and enjoyable than this ****.

then sort it out between yourselves. tell the netKKKops in the group to
desist and apologise then we might just go away (but will still be
watching).
the alternative is not pretty. things really could get much worse in here...


--
Steve Leyland
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em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
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And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

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Peter Wiley April 3rd 05 10:21 AM

In article , Wally
wrote:

Lady Pilot wrote:

I've can honestly say that I've *never* sent an abuse complaint to
anyone's NSP or ISP.


Ignoratio Elenchi. What are you talking about?


If that's the "moral high ground" you speak of,
then I guess you are right.


It isn't. You said that Katy mouthing off about being a netcop was what
brought the horde of locusts in here, but it wasn't. It was you running to a
gang of playground bullies, shouting, "Look what she said! Look what she
said!", knowing that it would mess up the group for everyone . She didn't do
it, you did.

FWIW, if Katy wants to netcop someone, she should keep her trap shut and get
on with it - the fact that the lot of you have to make such a song and dance
of of it in here is, frankly, pathetic.


What it really says is that they're dead scared of being reported for
violating their TOS.

While I support the principle of free speech in usenet, we are all
ultimately bound by the dictat of our service providers (and service
providers themselves are bound by the conditions of their peering
arrangements with other service providers). Those who choose to step outside
of that dictat are fair game to those who choose to netcop. You can wave a
banner claiming that you can do whatever you like all you want, but the
truth of the matter is that that isn't really the case. Like it or not,
there *are* rules.

What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person. If Neal stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just tough
**** - tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here. You and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is ****ing
everybody off


Maybe, but I just killfiled the lot of them. It wasn't hard. Last time
they were funny but it's a classic example of the saying - first time,
you're a wit. Second time, half-wit. Third time....... you understand.

- Katy isn't the source of disrupton to the normal business of
this group, you two are. The fact that Neal deliberately stepped outside
individual.net's TOS, knowing that his account was about to close anyway, is
telling.

You two are behaving like a pair of sad little trouble makers - why don't
you go sailing with him again?


Once was enough for anyone????????????

PDW

Peter Wiley April 3rd 05 10:26 AM

In article , JR Gilbreath
wrote:

Lady Pilot wrote:
"Wally" wrote:

Lady Pilot wrote:


I can honestly say that I've *never* sent an abuse complaint to
anyone's NSP or ISP.

Ignoratio Elenchi.



Name calling doesn't suit you, Wally.


What are you talking about?



I've been in a flame war that lasted for several years, but I never
netkkkoped anyone. (i.e., sent an abuse complaint)
NSP = News Service Provider
ISP = Internet Service Provider


If that's the "moral high ground" you speak of,
then I guess you are right.

It isn't. You said that Katy mouthing off about being a netcop was what
brought the horde of locusts in here, but it wasn't.



Sure it is, I have personal knowledge of this.


It was you running to a
gang of playground bullies, shouting, "Look what she said! Look what she
said!", knowing that it would mess up the group for everyone .



Nah, they could care less what katywails said, as long as it's not
threatning to report someone and get their account pulled.


She didn't do
it, you did.



Nope, you are wrong. But unlike katywails or Ganz, I won't report you to
your provider just because we have a difference of opinion or I don't like
what you say.


FWIW, if Katy wants to netcop someone, she should keep her trap shut and
get
on with it -



Actually, I'm glad she announced it. Now everyone will know that she can't
be a trusted friend. Gives the group prospective on katy's true character.


While I support the principle of free speech in usenet,



No you don't, it's obvious by your own words.


we are all
ultimately bound by the dictat of our service providers (and service
providers themselves are bound by the conditions of their peering
arrangements with other service providers). Those who choose to step
outside
of that dictat are fair game to those who choose to netcop. You can wave a
banner claiming that you can do whatever you like all you want, but the
truth of the matter is that that isn't really the case. Like it or not,
there *are* rules.



Different news servers have different rules. If individual.net wants to
toss someone for a flame war or calling people names, they won't be around
very long.

Tell me, Wally, what did I do for katywails to netcop me? Hmmm? The fact
of the matter is that katywails got ****ed at Capt. Neal and decided to
take
her wrath out on me. That's the facts, whether you want to accept it or
not. That's why I haven't so much as received an e-mail from my ISP. All
other complaints about me will now probably be tossed in the recycle bin.
News admin's have better things to do with their time than listen to some
old menopausal woman whine about losing a flame war.


What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person.



No one is being punished. Use your kill file, that's what it's there for,
Wally.

You haven't asked for my advice, but I will give it for the sake of the
group. Don't respond to anyone regarding this mess. People like Scotty,
Thom, Cairns, and others defending katy and Ganz is only going to prolong
their visit.


If Neal stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just tough
**** -



Yes, and the same is true about katysails. If she gets spammed, a trojan
or
someone takes control of her computer, that's her fault because she *chose*
to netkkkop someone and then brag about it, which is such a gaynzy way of
life.


tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here.



So you're saying you want more disruption to the newgroup? whatever

I subscribed to this newsgroup because it *was* a lot of fun. It stopped
being fun when katywails and ganzy went on their professed netkkkopping
spree.

If katy would have just stuck Capt. Neal in her kill file, this wouldn't
have been happening right now. She's incredibly stupid for a woman of her
age. She's been around usenet long enough to know better!


You and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is ****ing
everybody off -



Nope, I've never claimed any such thing. Please post proof of your
accusation. I'm claiming that ***katywails*** brought this upon the
newsgroup by her and ganzy netkkkoping. How many times does that need to
be
repeated before people here get that thru their thick skulls?


"Beware. This animal is dangerous. When attacked, it defends itself".

Hey, LP - your sense of reality is so typically absent, you remind me
of Jon defending his loser candidate Kerry in the last election. Almost
enough to get me to take you out of the killfile, but not quite.
Reading your evasions, distortions and pathetic attempts at self
justification at second hand is sufficient.

Neal is a pathetic scumbag. You associate with him.

PDW

Flying Tadpole April 3rd 05 10:29 AM



Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , Wally
wrote:



What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person. If Neal stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just tough
**** - tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here. You and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is ****ing
everybody off



Maybe, but I just killfiled the lot of them. It wasn't hard. Last time
they were funny but it's a classic example of the saying - first time,
you're a wit. Second time, half-wit. Third time....... you understand.


WHich begs the question: will there even be a Third Coming after
Neal's next Bahamian cruise?

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mlakes.htm
http://music.download.com/timfatchen

Flying Tadpole April 3rd 05 11:04 AM



Wally wrote:


What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person. If Neal stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just tough
**** - tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here. You and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is ****ing
everybody off - Katy isn't the source of disrupton to the normal business of
this group, you two are. The fact that Neal deliberately stepped outside
individual.net's TOS, knowing that his account was about to close anyway, is
telling.

You two are behaving like a pair of sad little trouble makers - why don't
you go sailing with him again? That was *far* more interesting and enjoyable
than this ****.

Elegantly stated!
--
Flying Tadpole, catching up

katysails April 3rd 05 02:03 PM

Only in Oklahoma...

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , Wally
wrote:



What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person. If Neal
stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just
tough
**** - tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here. You
and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is ****ing
everybody off



Maybe, but I just killfiled the lot of them. It wasn't hard. Last time
they were funny but it's a classic example of the saying - first time,
you're a wit. Second time, half-wit. Third time....... you understand.


WHich begs the question: will there even be a Third Coming after Neal's
next Bahamian cruise?

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mlakes.htm
http://music.download.com/timfatchen




Scout April 3rd 05 02:09 PM

LOL, now that's just wrong!
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Only in Oklahoma...

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , Wally
wrote:



What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person. If Neal
stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just
tough
**** - tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here. You
and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is
****ing
everybody off


Maybe, but I just killfiled the lot of them. It wasn't hard. Last time
they were funny but it's a classic example of the saying - first time,
you're a wit. Second time, half-wit. Third time....... you understand.


WHich begs the question: will there even be a Third Coming after Neal's
next Bahamian cruise?

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mlakes.htm
http://music.download.com/timfatchen






katysails April 3rd 05 02:13 PM

So you're saying it's never happened at all?

"Scout" wrote in message
...
LOL, now that's just wrong!
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Only in Oklahoma...

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , Wally
wrote:



What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless
crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person. If Neal
stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just
tough
**** - tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here.
You and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is
****ing
everybody off


Maybe, but I just killfiled the lot of them. It wasn't hard. Last time
they were funny but it's a classic example of the saying - first time,
you're a wit. Second time, half-wit. Third time....... you understand.

WHich begs the question: will there even be a Third Coming after Neal's
next Bahamian cruise?

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mlakes.htm
http://music.download.com/timfatchen








Scout April 3rd 05 02:17 PM

I'm saying I don't even want to think about the first coming!

"katysails" wrote in message
...
So you're saying it's never happened at all?

"Scout" wrote in message
...
LOL, now that's just wrong!
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Only in Oklahoma...

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , Wally
wrote:



What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless
crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person. If Neal
stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just
tough
**** - tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there
isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here.
You and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is
****ing
everybody off


Maybe, but I just killfiled the lot of them. It wasn't hard. Last time
they were funny but it's a classic example of the saying - first time,
you're a wit. Second time, half-wit. Third time....... you understand.

WHich begs the question: will there even be a Third Coming after Neal's
next Bahamian cruise?

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mlakes.htm
http://music.download.com/timfatchen









katysails April 3rd 05 03:20 PM

eewwww...you're right, of course...


"Scout" wrote in message
...
I'm saying I don't even want to think about the first coming!

"katysails" wrote in message
...
So you're saying it's never happened at all?

"Scout" wrote in message
...
LOL, now that's just wrong!
Scout

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Only in Oklahoma...

"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...


Peter Wiley wrote:
In article , Wally
wrote:



What I don't support is flooding a group with a load of worthless
crap -
punishing everyone - because of the actions of one person. If Neal
stepped
outside his provider's TOS, and Katy netcopped him, then that's just
tough
**** - tough **** that I couldn't give a damn about becuase there
isn't
enough of it getting in the way of the fun that's to be had in here.
You and
Neal claim you're teaching Katy a lesson, but all you're doing is
****ing
everybody off


Maybe, but I just killfiled the lot of them. It wasn't hard. Last
time
they were funny but it's a classic example of the saying - first
time,
you're a wit. Second time, half-wit. Third time....... you
understand.

WHich begs the question: will there even be a Third Coming after
Neal's next Bahamian cruise?

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/mlakes.htm
http://music.download.com/timfatchen











Lonny B April 3rd 05 03:48 PM


The unwanted, unwelcome, and non-sailor "Steve Leyland" said: "I ...can
post from almost anywhere in the
world


Wow! Now, THAT'S really impressive? Anywhere in the world? The whole
world???? WOW! I am impressed that you have a computer connected to the
world wide web, and can post from ANYWHERE in the world! WOW!

[please wipe my dripping sarcasm off your keyboards now, sorry]

Lonny B

"Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson



Thom Stewart April 3rd 05 04:11 PM

Steve.

"Things could get a lot worse, the alternate isn't pretty" If that
isn't the sound of a "Bullie" then tell me what it is?


Scotty April 3rd 05 04:35 PM


"Flying Tadpole" wrote ...

WHich begs the question: will there even be a Third Coming after
Neal's next Bahamian cruise?



Probably, with or without LP.

SV



Maxprop April 4th 05 04:08 AM


"Maxprop" wrote in message
...
Boy am I ever drunk. I read that crap I wrote below and now
I'm sorry. I tried to cancell but it doesn't seem to be working.

I'm a drunk idiot .. . Duh

Max


This is an example of Neal's idea of retribution. He posts under other's
names, attributing BS to the purported author. It is, of course, the
pathetic, mindless, senseless retaliation of a childish adult lacking any
semblance of self-worth, bereft of intellect or cleverness. No one is
fooled by this, of course, so he looks even more incredibly inept and
shallow than he does posting under his own name. If anyone had uncertainty
about his character, this most recent activity of his should resolve any
doubts.

Go take another of your fictitious cruises, Neal. I seriously doubt if you
can find more than one or two supporters here any longer.

Max



Capt. Neal® April 4th 05 04:17 AM


"Maxprop" wrote in message link.net...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
...
Boy am I ever drunk. I read that crap I wrote below and now
I'm sorry. I tried to cancell but it doesn't seem to be working.

I'm a drunk idiot .. . Duh

Max


This is an example of Neal's idea of retribution. He posts under other's
names, attributing BS to the purported author. It is, of course, the
pathetic, mindless, senseless retaliation of a childish adult lacking any
semblance of self-worth, bereft of intellect or cleverness. No one is
fooled by this, of course, so he looks even more incredibly inept and
shallow than he does posting under his own name. If anyone had uncertainty
about his character, this most recent activity of his should resolve any
doubts.

Go take another of your fictitious cruises, Neal. I seriously doubt if you
can find more than one or two supporters here any longer.

Max


Don't cry Max. You spent two days trying to get me kicked off for using
your precious Maxprop moniker but you come back to find me happily
posting away. Poor BABY! Go get your bottle and ask KKKaty to warm
it for you.

CN



Steve Leyland April 5th 05 12:43 AM

Lonny B wrote:
: The unwanted, unwelcome, and non-sailor "Steve Leyland"

awww, you love me really. anyway I -was- once a sailor just FYI.
here's a pic of teh boat I was on:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bobleroi/...siege/Ross.jpg

: said: "I
: ...can post from almost anywhere in the
:: world
:
: Wow! Now, THAT'S really impressive? Anywhere in the world? The
: whole world???? WOW! I am impressed that you have a computer
: connected to the world wide web, and can post from ANYWHERE in the
: world! WOW!

ok then, you try it.
send one post to usenet from a newsserver in a different country without an
account, smartarse.
:
: [please wipe my dripping sarcasm off your keyboards now, sorry]

you mis-spelled jism.
:
: Lonny B
:
: "Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

Promises are like babies: fun to make, but hell to deliver.
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS."

miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying."

projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow



Steve Leyland April 5th 05 12:47 AM

Thom Stewart wrote:
: Steve.
:
: "Things could get a lot worse, the alternate isn't pretty" If that
: isn't the sound of a "Bullie" then tell me what it is?

sometimes a harsh lesson is needed to preserve freedom.
were all the people protesting in beruit bullys, or just sick and tired of
oppression?

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

....and the aptly named 'Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Film'. -- Monty Python
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS."

miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying."

projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow



Lonny B April 5th 05 02:19 AM

What the heck is that thing? Some kind of listening post or something, used
to spy on who, Cuba or something? What kind of sail would fit on that large
mast?

Lonny B

"Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson

"Steve Leyland" wrote in
message ...
Lonny B wrote:
: The unwanted, unwelcome, and non-sailor "Steve Leyland"

awww, you love me really. anyway I -was- once a sailor just FYI.
here's a pic of teh boat I was on:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bobleroi/...siege/Ross.jpg

: said: "I
: ...can post from almost anywhere in the
:: world
:
: Wow! Now, THAT'S really impressive? Anywhere in the world? The
: whole world???? WOW! I am impressed that you have a computer
: connected to the world wide web, and can post from ANYWHERE in the
: world! WOW!

ok then, you try it.
send one post to usenet from a newsserver in a different country without
an
account, smartarse.
:
: [please wipe my dripping sarcasm off your keyboards now, sorry]

you mis-spelled jism.
:
: Lonny B
:
: "Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

Promises are like babies: fun to make, but hell to deliver.
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS."

miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying."

projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow





Steve Leyland April 5th 05 02:50 AM

Lonny B wrote:
: What the heck is that thing? Some kind of listening post or
: something, used to spy on who, Cuba or something? What kind of sail
: would fit on that large mast?

nothing so sinister. that mast was merely used to play good music from
international waters on medium wave. I believe it to have been the biggest
mast on a ship ever. oh, **** I'm almost poasting on-topic here now!

www.radiocaroline.co.uk

:
: Lonny B
:
: "Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson
:
: "Steve Leyland" wrote
: in message ...
:: Lonny B wrote:
::: The unwanted, unwelcome, and non-sailor "Steve Leyland"
::
:: awww, you love me really. anyway I -was- once a sailor just FYI.
:: here's a pic of teh boat I was on:
:: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/bobleroi/...siege/Ross.jpg
::
::: said: "I
::: ...can post from almost anywhere in the
:::: world
:::
::: Wow! Now, THAT'S really impressive? Anywhere in the world? The
::: whole world???? WOW! I am impressed that you have a computer
::: connected to the world wide web, and can post from ANYWHERE in the
::: world! WOW!
::
:: ok then, you try it.
:: send one post to usenet from a newsserver in a different country
:: without an
:: account, smartarse.
:::
::: [please wipe my dripping sarcasm off your keyboards now, sorry]
::
:: you mis-spelled jism.
:::
::: Lonny B
:::
::: "Rock stars! Is there anything they don't know?" Homer Simpson
::
:: --
:: Steve Leyland
:: mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
:: flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
:: em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
:: Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
:: http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
:: http://www.radioxanadu.tk
::
:: =^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=
::
:: Promises are like babies: fun to make, but hell to deliver.
:: ================================================== ====================
:: "Warning to all:
:: Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
:: muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
:: UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"
::
:: bear, uk.rec.motorcycles
:: ================================================== ====================
:: "This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about
:: usenet. Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET
:: ALTOGETHER, DUMBASS."
::
:: miguel, soc.singles
:: ================================================== ====================
:: "must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in
:: every ****ing post? You're very annoying."
::
:: projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
:: ================================================== ====================
:: "I went to the Garden of Love,
:: And saw what I never had seen;
:: A Chapel was built in the midst,
:: Where I used to play on the green.
::
:: And the gates of this Chapel were shut
:: And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
:: So I turned to the Garden of Love
:: That so many sweet flowers bore.
::
:: And I saw it was filled with graves,
:: And tombstones where flowers should be;
:: And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
:: And binding with briars my joys and desires."
::
:: William Blake.
:: ================================================== ====================
:: "When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe
:: of people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
:: deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known
:: as Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."
::
:: Native American prophecy
::
::
:: |\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
:: /, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
:: |,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
:: '-~~;'@ ( ; ;
:: _.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
:: (,_..----''' (,..--''
::
:: Meow

--
Steve Leyland
mhm32x16 Smeeter#24 WSD#41
flower: three 6 four 9 five 8 eight 9
em ess en: my 1st name at purgatory dot org
Alcatroll Labs Inc (bongwater maintenance dept)
http://www.insurgent.org/~alcatroll/
http://www.radioxanadu.tk

=^MEOW MEOW ARMY^=

Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
================================================== ====================
"Warning to all:
Steve Leyland is a trolling **** of the highest order. Killfile the
muppet now and move on. Even the briefest of searches on his past
UseNet posts will reveal the truth. You have been warned. *plonk*"

bear, uk.rec.motorcycles
================================================== ====================
"This sig is an abomination of all that is good and right about usenet.
Do the entire world a favor and REMOVE YOURSELF FROM USENET ALTOGETHER,
DUMBASS."

miguel, soc.singles
================================================== ====================
"must you include your 75847548574893579345 gigabyte sig file in every
****ing post? You're very annoying."

projectile vomit chick, alt.music.ozzy
================================================== ====================
"I went to the Garden of Love,
And saw what I never had seen;
A Chapel was built in the midst,
Where I used to play on the green.

And the gates of this Chapel were shut
And "Thou shalt not," writ over the door;
So I turned to the Garden of Love
That so many sweet flowers bore.

And I saw it was filled with graves,
And tombstones where flowers should be;
And priests in black gowns were walking their rounds,
And binding with briars my joys and desires."

William Blake.
================================================== ====================
"When the Earth has been ravaged and the animals are dying, a tribe of
people from all races, creeds and colours shall put their faith in
deeds, not words, and make the land green again. They shall be known as
Warriors of the Rainbow, protectors of the environment."

Native American prophecy


|\ _.-'~~""'~`'~)
/, ~-,__,,,.'~ ,-;;--''
|,4) ./ ' ; ;/'
'-~~;'@ ( ; ;
_.--'' _.-_..' .;.'
(,_..----''' (,..--''

Meow



Lady Pilot April 5th 05 03:36 AM


"Steve Leyland" wrote in
message ...
Lonny B wrote:
: What the heck is that thing? Some kind of listening post or
: something, used to spy on who, Cuba or something? What kind of sail
: would fit on that large mast?

nothing so sinister. that mast was merely used to play good music from
international waters on medium wave. I believe it to have been the biggest
mast on a ship ever. oh, **** I'm almost poasting on-topic here now!


Don't let these top-posting ****wits drag you down with them, Steve.

No charge for the advice. ;-)

LP




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