Burial @ sea
 

Here's the official ceremony... sorry for your loss.

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq85-1.htm

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Glen" wrote in message
...
I need some help. A very good friend of mine just died. He and his
wife loved to sail with us. She called and told me she would like to
have Steve's ashes thrown overboard into the sound. Since the boat is
not very big (25') we plan on having the bulk of the memorial party on
shore at our house. What is the "proper" way to set the boat up..ie
flags, bunting,etc. He died in Mexico so it will be a few days before
his ashes return here. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Glen

Depends on where you are whether it's legal or not...it's illegal in the
Great Lakes but people do it anyway...my Ucle Jimmy was sprinkled halfway
between the shore and Catalina...off a charter boat...
I don't know if my Grandma and Aunt told the captain that's what they were
renting the boat for...

"Glen" wrote in message
...
I need some help. A very good friend of mine just died. He and his
wife loved to sail with us. She called and told me she would like to
have Steve's ashes thrown overboard into the sound. Since the boat is
not very big (25') we plan on having the bulk of the memorial party on
shore at our house. What is the "proper" way to set the boat up..ie
flags, bunting,etc. He died in Mexico so it will be a few days before
his ashes return here. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Glen

Be careful of the winds, dump the urn as close to the water as possible on
the leeward side. I don't want to go into detail in what went wrong
spreading the ashes of my brother in law, but think of riding in an open car
on a coal fired train.

Jeff Dowder

"Glen" wrote in message
...
I need some help. A very good friend of mine just died. He and his
wife loved to sail with us. She called and told me she would like to
have Steve's ashes thrown overboard into the sound. Since the boat is
not very big (25') we plan on having the bulk of the memorial party on
shore at our house. What is the "proper" way to set the boat up..ie
flags, bunting,etc. He died in Mexico so it will be a few days before
his ashes return here. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Glen

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Depends on where you are whether it's legal or not...it's illegal in the
Great Lakes but people do it anyway...my Ucle Jimmy was sprinkled halfway
between the shore and Catalina...off a charter boat...
I don't know if my Grandma and Aunt told the captain that's what they were
renting the boat for...



Where was it your granddaughter was almost smeared. Fourth and Broadway?

CN

It is illegal to dump ashes overboard. Read annex 5 of the MARPOL treaty.

CN


"Jeff Dowder" wrote in message ink.net...
Be careful of the winds, dump the urn as close to the water as possible on
the leeward side. I don't want to go into detail in what went wrong
spreading the ashes of my brother in law, but think of riding in an open car
on a coal fired train.

Jeff Dowder

"Glen" wrote in message
...
I need some help. A very good friend of mine just died. He and his
wife loved to sail with us. She called and told me she would like to
have Steve's ashes thrown overboard into the sound. Since the boat is
not very big (25') we plan on having the bulk of the memorial party on
shore at our house. What is the "proper" way to set the boat up..ie
flags, bunting,etc. He died in Mexico so it will be a few days before
his ashes return here. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Glen

Hey first I would like to thank "J" for his kind thoughts. I looked @
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq85-1.htm and I gleaned a couple of
ideas, but I'm thinking of something less formal. He/we are very free
spirts and don't do conformity very well. I would like to run up the
skull and crossbones, but I havn't run it by his wife yet. I know he
would appreciate it. as for legal.. Basically we are in rural SC on
the ocean, I can sail all day without seeing another boat. Due to the
remoteness where it happened (@13,000 'in Mexico} the red tape etc..
We do not expect this to happen until mid next week. So any other
ideas will be well appreciated..

Good Sailng
Glen




On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:28:43 -0500, Glen wrote:

I need some help. A very good friend of mine just died. He and his
wife loved to sail with us. She called and told me she would like to
have Steve's ashes thrown overboard into the sound. Since the boat is
not very big (25') we plan on having the bulk of the memorial party on
shore at our house. What is the "proper" way to set the boat up..ie
flags, bunting,etc. He died in Mexico so it will be a few days before
his ashes return here. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Glen

You should seriously consider hiring a bag pipe player for the
ceremony.

And don't blab to too many people what you're doing, there's a lot of
snitches around.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

"Glen" wrote in message
...
Hey first I would like to thank "J" for his kind thoughts. I looked
@
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq85-1.htm and I gleaned a couple
of
ideas, but I'm thinking of something less formal. He/we are very
free
spirts and don't do conformity very well. I would like to run up the
skull and crossbones, but I havn't run it by his wife yet. I know he
would appreciate it. as for legal.. Basically we are in rural SC on
the ocean, I can sail all day without seeing another boat. Due to
the
remoteness where it happened (@13,000 'in Mexico} the red tape
etc..
We do not expect this to happen until mid next week. So any other
ideas will be well appreciated..

Good Sailng
Glen




On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:28:43 -0500, Glen wrote:

I need some help. A very good friend of mine just died. He and his
wife loved to sail with us. She called and told me she would like
to
have Steve's ashes thrown overboard into the sound. Since the boat
is
not very big (25') we plan on having the bulk of the memorial party
on
shore at our house. What is the "proper" way to set the boat up..ie
flags, bunting,etc. He died in Mexico so it will be a few days
before
his ashes return here. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Glen

Thats what I want, Bagpipes, 12 cannon salute and the deep six, whole
....not ashes and paid for and preformed by Uncle Sam. Fish food ya
know. If all they have is ashes then shoot them out a cannon.

Joe

Was he in Colima when he died?

Jeff Dowder

"Glen" wrote in message
...
Hey first I would like to thank "J" for his kind thoughts. I looked @
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq85-1.htm and I gleaned a couple of
ideas, but I'm thinking of something less formal. He/we are very free
spirts and don't do conformity very well. I would like to run up the
skull and crossbones, but I havn't run it by his wife yet. I know he
would appreciate it. as for legal.. Basically we are in rural SC on
the ocean, I can sail all day without seeing another boat. Due to the
remoteness where it happened (@13,000 'in Mexico} the red tape etc..
We do not expect this to happen until mid next week. So any other
ideas will be well appreciated..

Good Sailng
Glen




On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:28:43 -0500, Glen wrote:

I need some help. A very good friend of mine just died. He and his
wife loved to sail with us. She called and told me she would like to
have Steve's ashes thrown overboard into the sound. Since the boat is
not very big (25') we plan on having the bulk of the memorial party on
shore at our house. What is the "proper" way to set the boat up..ie
flags, bunting,etc. He died in Mexico so it will be a few days before
his ashes return here. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Glen

I knew a person who had her father packed into shot gun shells. They took
them out to the middle of his property in the U.P. and shot him in all
directions.

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thats what I want, Bagpipes, 12 cannon salute and the deep six, whole
...not ashes and paid for and preformed by Uncle Sam. Fish food ya
know. If all they have is ashes then shoot them out a cannon.

Joe

"katysails" wrote
I knew a person who had her father packed into shot gun shells. They took
them out to the middle of his property in the U.P. and shot him in all
directions.

What a lying sack of **** . . .

CN

"Gary L. Burnore" wrote

Please stop demeaning sacks of ****.


roflmao

I would keep it pretty simple, as it's not a good idea to advertise that
you're going to be dumping ashes.

You certainly don't want to do it within sight of any authorities, but
that's pretty easy to do.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Glen" wrote in message
...
Hey first I would like to thank "J" for his kind thoughts. I looked @
http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq85-1.htm and I gleaned a couple of
ideas, but I'm thinking of something less formal. He/we are very free
spirts and don't do conformity very well. I would like to run up the
skull and crossbones, but I havn't run it by his wife yet. I know he
would appreciate it. as for legal.. Basically we are in rural SC on
the ocean, I can sail all day without seeing another boat. Due to the
remoteness where it happened (@13,000 'in Mexico} the red tape etc..
We do not expect this to happen until mid next week. So any other
ideas will be well appreciated..

Good Sailng
Glen




On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:28:43 -0500, Glen wrote:

I need some help. A very good friend of mine just died. He and his
wife loved to sail with us. She called and told me she would like to
have Steve's ashes thrown overboard into the sound. Since the boat is
not very big (25') we plan on having the bulk of the memorial party on
shore at our house. What is the "proper" way to set the boat up..ie
flags, bunting,etc. He died in Mexico so it will be a few days before
his ashes return here. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Glen

12 cannon salute?

Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thats what I want, Bagpipes, 12 cannon salute and the deep six,
whole
...not ashes and paid for and preformed by Uncle Sam. Fish food ya
know. If all they have is ashes then shoot them out a cannon.

Joe

Well that's just plain stupid. For one thing, ashes are ashes, nothing
more. The soul is gone, earthly remains are all that's left, burnt or
otherwise.


SBV


"katysails" wrote in message
...
I knew a person who had her father packed into shot gun shells.
They took
them out to the middle of his property in the U.P. and shot him in
all
directions.

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thats what I want, Bagpipes, 12 cannon salute and the deep six,
whole
...not ashes and paid for and preformed by Uncle Sam. Fish food ya
know. If all they have is ashes then shoot them out a cannon.

Joe

We knew that already.

"Capt. Neal®" wrote

What a lying sack of **** I am . . .

CN

People perform burial rituals for themselves, not for the deceased...if it
gave them comfort to think that's what he wanted, then, heck..why quibble?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Well that's just plain stupid. For one thing, ashes are ashes, nothing
more. The soul is gone, earthly remains are all that's left, burnt or
otherwise.


SBV


"katysails" wrote in message
...
I knew a person who had her father packed into shot gun shells.
They took
them out to the middle of his property in the U.P. and shot him in
all
directions.

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thats what I want, Bagpipes, 12 cannon salute and the deep six,
whole
...not ashes and paid for and preformed by Uncle Sam. Fish food ya
know. If all they have is ashes then shoot them out a cannon.

Joe

I don't know, shooting the ashes just seems a bit......too much.

Scotty

"katysails" wrote in message
...
People perform burial rituals for themselves, not for the
deceased...if it
gave them comfort to think that's what he wanted, then, heck..why
quibble?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Well that's just plain stupid. For one thing, ashes are ashes,
nothing
more. The soul is gone, earthly remains are all that's left, burnt
or
otherwise.


SBV


"katysails" wrote in message
...
I knew a person who had her father packed into shot gun shells.
They took
them out to the middle of his property in the U.P. and shot him
in
all
directions.

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thats what I want, Bagpipes, 12 cannon salute and the deep six,
whole
...not ashes and paid for and preformed by Uncle Sam. Fish food
ya
know. If all they have is ashes then shoot them out a cannon.

Joe

Scott Vernon wrote:
12 cannon salute?

21 cannon salute.

Joe


Scotty

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thats what I want, Bagpipes, 12 cannon salute and the deep six,
whole
...not ashes and paid for and preformed by Uncle Sam. Fish food ya
know. If all they have is ashes then shoot them out a cannon.

Joe

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:28:43 -0500, Glen wrote:


Just as an update. I really never thought about laws and ashes. After
all I throw just about as much over after a few good barbecues. Anyway
I called and of course I got the usual 15, Gee I don't know answers" I
was Trasnfered from DHEC to EPA to County Zoning to the Coast Guard
and then back to DHEC before I got an answer. Apparently in SC there
aren'T any laws against it. If fact the fella was telling me about one
person scattering ashes on the public beach..As for guns and all that
mess.. Not what I looking for. Hey he was an ER doc, and as you can
tell from my alias (i hope) I'm a Paramedic/ER RN. We see death almost
an a daily basis. So no big deal.. No it was just that he was a cool
guy, and a young 46. As stated by Katysails this isn't for him but
his family, they're a mess. Really thanks for the suggestions, and the
humor. If nothing else its a nice distraction.

Taking life one day at a time,
Glen


I need some help. A very good friend of mine just died. He and his
wife loved to sail with us. She called and told me she would like to
have Steve's ashes thrown overboard into the sound. Since the boat is
not very big (25') we plan on having the bulk of the memorial party on
shore at our house. What is the "proper" way to set the boat up..ie
flags, bunting,etc. He died in Mexico so it will be a few days before
his ashes return here. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Glen

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:44:42 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
wrote:


****ing scum.

Gary if you don't learn some manners I'll have to tell your mother
you are sneaking onto the computer again!

Glen

Hey Gary if you want to get on me for throwing 2-3 lbs of organic
ashes in the ocean (I do understand it might foul up your bubble bath)
go ahead... I'm still going to tell your Mom...
Glen



On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:10:21 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 21:43:27 -0500, Glen wrote:

On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 07:44:42 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
wrote:


****ing scum.

Gary if you don't learn some manners[SLAP]

You dump garbage in the water and you want to talk about MANNERS?
You're scum.

When Neal dies his ashes will be carried around in a cedar bucket. And you
will be able to hear that cedar bucket complain all the way to where REAL
sailors hang out. It will be the dirtiest load it has ever had the
displeasure of carrying.

Lonny B


"Glen" wrote in message
...
I need some help. A very good friend of mine just died. He and his
wife loved to sail with us. She called and told me she would like to
have Steve's ashes thrown overboard into the sound. Since the boat is
not very big (25') we plan on having the bulk of the memorial party on
shore at our house. What is the "proper" way to set the boat up..ie
flags, bunting,etc. He died in Mexico so it will be a few days before
his ashes return here. Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Glen

"Lonny B" wrote in message news:Ghw3e.8878$Fh2.8314@trnddc04...
When Neal dies his ashes will be carried around in a cedar bucket. And you
will be able to hear that cedar bucket complain all the way to where REAL
sailors hang out. It will be the dirtiest load it has ever had the
displeasure of carrying.

Lonny B


Great Idea!!!! I shall look into the possibility of going into production making
small, genuine cedar buckets from Juniperis Virginiana. These cedar buckets
will be of the same type real sailors use on their fine, blue-water vessels but
smaller and with a gasketed lid so they can hold the ashes of deceased sailors
who wish to be contained that way and not in some earthen (gasp!) container.

CN

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Great Idea!!!! I shall look into the possibility of going into production
making
small, genuine cedar buckets from Juniperis Virginiana. These cedar
buckets
will be of the same type real sailors use on their fine, blue-water
vessels but
smaller and with a gasketed lid so they can hold the ashes of deceased
sailors who wish to be contained that way and not in some earthen (gasp!)
container.

Will they all come with copious samples of your brown shrimp included?

Max