For some reason I can't reply to Katy's posts. I get the below error
message. Can anybody tell me why?

TIA, Scotty



Outlook Express could not post your message. Subject ' Katy get a
bigger dink', Account: 'News.Individual.NET', Server:
'News.Individual.NET', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 Line 4
too long', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error
Number: 0x800CCCA9

Scott Vernon wrote:
For some reason I can't reply to Katy's posts. I get the below error
message. Can anybody tell me why?

As it indicates, line 4 in the headers is too long. I think it has something
to do with the references to previous posts in the thread, which is used by
newsreaders to build the sequence of replies. There's a set limit to how
long this line can be (might be 1000 bytes), but it's possible that not all
servers implement the limit. The problem, to some extent, may rest with
Outlook Express - ISTR reading that it has a tendency to write rather too
much information into that line (or doesn't manage it properly), such that
some servers will reject the post.

I've had it happen occasionally when using the individual.net server, but
replying to the same post via my ISP's text server worked okay.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Oh, I didn't realize it meant in the header. But why then can I reply
to others in the same thread?

SV



"Wally" wrote in message
.. .
Scott Vernon wrote:
For some reason I can't reply to Katy's posts. I get the below
error
message. Can anybody tell me why?

As it indicates, line 4 in the headers is too long. I think it has
something
to do with the references to previous posts in the thread, which is
used by
newsreaders to build the sequence of replies. There's a set limit to
how
long this line can be (might be 1000 bytes), but it's possible that
not all
servers implement the limit. The problem, to some extent, may rest
with
Outlook Express - ISTR reading that it has a tendency to write
rather too
much information into that line (or doesn't manage it properly),
such that
some servers will reject the post.

I've had it happen occasionally when using the individual.net
server, but
replying to the same post via my ISP's text server worked okay.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Scott Vernon wrote:

Oh, I didn't realize it meant in the header. But why then can I reply
to others in the same thread?

It depends on what gets written into the field. I can't remember exactly
what goes there, but it might be a series of message IDs, some of which can
be very long. The message ID depends on the server used by the person
originating the message - you can have a branch of a thread that is loads of
messages deep and still be able to reply to it if it so happens that the
posters in that branch all used a server which generated short IDs; but a
branch that is only a few posts deep could hit the limit if the posters'
servers generated long IDs.

IIRC, the proper way for a newsreader to handle the field is to strip out
the earlier references, thus ensuring that the length stays reasonable, but
OE just keeps adding new ones. (I might be wrong about that, it's been a
while since I read about it.)


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Thanks Wally.


"Wally" wrote in message
.. .
Scott Vernon wrote:

Oh, I didn't realize it meant in the header. But why then can I
reply
to others in the same thread?

It depends on what gets written into the field. I can't remember
exactly
what goes there, but it might be a series of message IDs, some of
which can
be very long. The message ID depends on the server used by the
person
originating the message - you can have a branch of a thread that is
loads of
messages deep and still be able to reply to it if it so happens that
the
posters in that branch all used a server which generated short IDs;
but a
branch that is only a few posts deep could hit the limit if the
posters'
servers generated long IDs.

IIRC, the proper way for a newsreader to handle the field is to
strip out
the earlier references, thus ensuring that the length stays
reasonable, but
OE just keeps adding new ones. (I might be wrong about that, it's
been a
while since I read about it.)


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

That used to happen all the time when I was still using individual (formerly
berlin)...since I switched to ATT it hasn't happened...it would most often
happen with Horvath's posts and with the posts from alt. insane, aviator
crossposts...

"Wally" wrote in message
.. .
Scott Vernon wrote:
For some reason I can't reply to Katy's posts. I get the below error
message. Can anybody tell me why?

As it indicates, line 4 in the headers is too long. I think it has
something
to do with the references to previous posts in the thread, which is used
by
newsreaders to build the sequence of replies. There's a set limit to how
long this line can be (might be 1000 bytes), but it's possible that not
all
servers implement the limit. The problem, to some extent, may rest with
Outlook Express - ISTR reading that it has a tendency to write rather too
much information into that line (or doesn't manage it properly), such that
some servers will reject the post.

I've had it happen occasionally when using the individual.net server, but
replying to the same post via my ISP's text server worked okay.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

yes, I'm still using ind.net, although I thought they were dropping
the free service last month. it's only doing it when I reply to your
posts. The few that went through I cut/pasted and replied to someone
else's post.

Scotty


"katysails" wrote in message
...
That used to happen all the time when I was still using individual
(formerly
berlin)...since I switched to ATT it hasn't happened...it would most
often
happen with Horvath's posts and with the posts from alt. insane,
aviator
crossposts...

"Wally" wrote in message
.. .
Scott Vernon wrote:
For some reason I can't reply to Katy's posts. I get the below
error
message. Can anybody tell me why?

As it indicates, line 4 in the headers is too long. I think it has
something
to do with the references to previous posts in the thread, which
is used
by
newsreaders to build the sequence of replies. There's a set limit
to how
long this line can be (might be 1000 bytes), but it's possible
that not
all
servers implement the limit. The problem, to some extent, may rest
with
Outlook Express - ISTR reading that it has a tendency to write
rather too
much information into that line (or doesn't manage it properly),
such that
some servers will reject the post.

I've had it happen occasionally when using the individual.net
server, but
replying to the same post via my ISP's text server worked okay.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com/FiatPandaRally/index.htm
www.wally.myby.co.uk

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
For some reason I can't reply to Katy's posts. I get the below error
message. Can anybody tell me why?

TIA, Scotty



Outlook Express could not post your message. Subject ' Katy get a
bigger dink', Account: 'News.Individual.NET', Server:
'News.Individual.NET', Protocol: NNTP, Server Response: '441 Line 4
too long', Port: 119, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 441, Error
Number: 0x800CCCA9



Oh man, nil is hacking yer computer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

John cairns

"John Cairns" wrote



Oh man, nil is hacking yer computer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


or maybe Ganzy is.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"John Cairns" wrote



Oh man, nil is hacking yer computer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Neither of those cyber dipwads could hack their way out of a wet paper bag
with a machete!

CM


or maybe Ganzy is.