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I prefer to dock stern in so if the wind is favorable I can sail out.
SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hMpZd.31141$i6.4870@edtnps90... You back in a power boat you Yankee Doodle Dandy..... you sail in a sailboat! Anyone that has a problem backing out of a slip needs to seriously reassess their skill-set.... especially if it involves a fin keeler. To prove my point you only need to read Gaynzy's reply... he prefers backing in !!! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun. You back out a car ....you back in a boat. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:XWoZd.30970$i6.30104@edtnps90... You back in a car... you back out a boat. CM "rgnmstr" wrote in message oups.com... Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier. |
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Yeah.. okay... but I don't see you whining about it being difficult to
"back" your vessel out of your slip if needed do I!!?? If I'm by myself and the wind is against me... I'll rope my boat out and set the bow to the wind... then just jump in and whip the line off the bollard or cleat as I put the engine into gear. When I didn't have an engine... I rowed the damn thing out towing it with my punt! I clenched the bowline in my teeth!!!..... and it's a 6 ton full keel 30 footer!!! Of course anyone with a Hunter is retarded anyway! Crap.. you could tow that thing with a pedal boat! Load crew after you back from the slip??? What's with that!!?? CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I prefer to dock stern in so if the wind is favorable I can sail out. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hMpZd.31141$i6.4870@edtnps90... You back in a power boat you Yankee Doodle Dandy..... you sail in a sailboat! Anyone that has a problem backing out of a slip needs to seriously reassess their skill-set.... especially if it involves a fin keeler. To prove my point you only need to read Gaynzy's reply... he prefers backing in !!! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun. You back out a car ....you back in a boat. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:XWoZd.30970$i6.30104@edtnps90... You back in a car... you back out a boat. CM "rgnmstr" wrote in message oups.com... Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier. |
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Never really thought about it. Shouldn't be any more difficult than
backing in, should it? Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:a0qZd.31203$i6.6074@edtnps90... Yeah.. okay... but I don't see you whining about it being difficult to "back" your vessel out of your slip if needed do I!!?? If I'm by myself and the wind is against me... I'll rope my boat out and set the bow to the wind... then just jump in and whip the line off the bollard or cleat as I put the engine into gear. When I didn't have an engine... I rowed the damn thing out towing it with my punt! I clenched the bowline in my teeth!!!..... and it's a 6 ton full keel 30 footer!!! Of course anyone with a Hunter is retarded anyway! Crap.. you could tow that thing with a pedal boat! Load crew after you back from the slip??? What's with that!!?? CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I prefer to dock stern in so if the wind is favorable I can sail out. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hMpZd.31141$i6.4870@edtnps90... You back in a power boat you Yankee Doodle Dandy..... you sail in a sailboat! Anyone that has a problem backing out of a slip needs to seriously reassess their skill-set.... especially if it involves a fin keeler. To prove my point you only need to read Gaynzy's reply... he prefers backing in !!! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun. You back out a car ....you back in a boat. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:XWoZd.30970$i6.30104@edtnps90... You back in a car... you back out a boat. CM "rgnmstr" wrote in message oups.com... Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier. |
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Actually ... backing in is much more difficult with a sailboat than backing
out. Well it is with a Crab Crusher like mine anyway...... I don't personally like being stern to a dock on the finger pier. Rubber neckers and all plus there is no advantage. If you can sail out by backing in then okay... but if you motor out after backing in ... what's the point? It's 40 feet of distance max! Most likely it's only 20 feet of reverse. You can man handle even a 40 footer that distance by yourself. If the dock requires motoring out I load everyone and everything prior to slipping the dock lines.... then I shove her to the end of the slip.... line her up... step aboard... and put it in gear. Good Grief... it's not rocket science! This isn't the QE2... it's a 30 ft sailboat... they have dinghies that big. CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Never really thought about it. Shouldn't be any more difficult than backing in, should it? Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:a0qZd.31203$i6.6074@edtnps90... Yeah.. okay... but I don't see you whining about it being difficult to "back" your vessel out of your slip if needed do I!!?? If I'm by myself and the wind is against me... I'll rope my boat out and set the bow to the wind... then just jump in and whip the line off the bollard or cleat as I put the engine into gear. When I didn't have an engine... I rowed the damn thing out towing it with my punt! I clenched the bowline in my teeth!!!..... and it's a 6 ton full keel 30 footer!!! Of course anyone with a Hunter is retarded anyway! Crap.. you could tow that thing with a pedal boat! Load crew after you back from the slip??? What's with that!!?? CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I prefer to dock stern in so if the wind is favorable I can sail out. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hMpZd.31141$i6.4870@edtnps90... You back in a power boat you Yankee Doodle Dandy..... you sail in a sailboat! Anyone that has a problem backing out of a slip needs to seriously reassess their skill-set.... especially if it involves a fin keeler. To prove my point you only need to read Gaynzy's reply... he prefers backing in !!! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun. You back out a car ....you back in a boat. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:XWoZd.30970$i6.30104@edtnps90... You back in a car... you back out a boat. CM "rgnmstr" wrote in message oups.com... Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier. |
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More total BS. You obviously don't know how to drive even your own boat.
Bwahahahaaaaaa... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:amqZd.31284$i6.22143@edtnps90... Actually ... backing in is much more difficult with a sailboat than backing out. Well it is with a Crab Crusher like mine anyway...... I don't personally like being stern to a dock on the finger pier. Rubber neckers and all plus there is no advantage. If you can sail out by backing in then okay... but if you motor out after backing in ... what's the point? It's 40 feet of distance max! Most likely it's only 20 feet of reverse. You can man handle even a 40 footer that distance by yourself. If the dock requires motoring out I load everyone and everything prior to slipping the dock lines.... then I shove her to the end of the slip.... line her up... step aboard... and put it in gear. Good Grief... it's not rocket science! This isn't the QE2... it's a 30 ft sailboat... they have dinghies that big. CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Never really thought about it. Shouldn't be any more difficult than backing in, should it? Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:a0qZd.31203$i6.6074@edtnps90... Yeah.. okay... but I don't see you whining about it being difficult to "back" your vessel out of your slip if needed do I!!?? If I'm by myself and the wind is against me... I'll rope my boat out and set the bow to the wind... then just jump in and whip the line off the bollard or cleat as I put the engine into gear. When I didn't have an engine... I rowed the damn thing out towing it with my punt! I clenched the bowline in my teeth!!!..... and it's a 6 ton full keel 30 footer!!! Of course anyone with a Hunter is retarded anyway! Crap.. you could tow that thing with a pedal boat! Load crew after you back from the slip??? What's with that!!?? CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I prefer to dock stern in so if the wind is favorable I can sail out. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hMpZd.31141$i6.4870@edtnps90... You back in a power boat you Yankee Doodle Dandy..... you sail in a sailboat! Anyone that has a problem backing out of a slip needs to seriously reassess their skill-set.... especially if it involves a fin keeler. To prove my point you only need to read Gaynzy's reply... he prefers backing in !!! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun. You back out a car ....you back in a boat. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:XWoZd.30970$i6.30104@edtnps90... You back in a car... you back out a boat. CM "rgnmstr" wrote in message oups.com... Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier. |
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I don't have a full length finger pier. It's just plain easier for
boarding, loading/unloading. Besides, in the Summer I sleep naked with the hatch open, so it's more fun being stern in. Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:amqZd.31284$i6.22143@edtnps90... Actually ... backing in is much more difficult with a sailboat than backing out. Well it is with a Crab Crusher like mine anyway...... I don't personally like being stern to a dock on the finger pier. Rubber neckers and all plus there is no advantage. If you can sail out by backing in then okay... but if you motor out after backing in ... what's the point? It's 40 feet of distance max! Most likely it's only 20 feet of reverse. You can man handle even a 40 footer that distance by yourself. If the dock requires motoring out I load everyone and everything prior to slipping the dock lines.... then I shove her to the end of the slip.... line her up... step aboard... and put it in gear. Good Grief... it's not rocket science! This isn't the QE2... it's a 30 ft sailboat... they have dinghies that big. CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Never really thought about it. Shouldn't be any more difficult than backing in, should it? Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:a0qZd.31203$i6.6074@edtnps90... Yeah.. okay... but I don't see you whining about it being difficult to "back" your vessel out of your slip if needed do I!!?? If I'm by myself and the wind is against me... I'll rope my boat out and set the bow to the wind... then just jump in and whip the line off the bollard or cleat as I put the engine into gear. When I didn't have an engine... I rowed the damn thing out towing it with my punt! I clenched the bowline in my teeth!!!..... and it's a 6 ton full keel 30 footer!!! Of course anyone with a Hunter is retarded anyway! Crap.. you could tow that thing with a pedal boat! Load crew after you back from the slip??? What's with that!!?? CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I prefer to dock stern in so if the wind is favorable I can sail out. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hMpZd.31141$i6.4870@edtnps90... You back in a power boat you Yankee Doodle Dandy..... you sail in a sailboat! Anyone that has a problem backing out of a slip needs to seriously reassess their skill-set.... especially if it involves a fin keeler. To prove my point you only need to read Gaynzy's reply... he prefers backing in !!! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun. You back out a car ....you back in a boat. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:XWoZd.30970$i6.30104@edtnps90... You back in a car... you back out a boat. CM "rgnmstr" wrote in message oups.com... Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier. |
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You wouldn't try that around Gaynzy's marina I bet!
CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I don't have a full length finger pier. It's just plain easier for boarding, loading/unloading. Besides, in the Summer I sleep naked with the hatch open, so it's more fun being stern in. Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:amqZd.31284$i6.22143@edtnps90... Actually ... backing in is much more difficult with a sailboat than backing out. Well it is with a Crab Crusher like mine anyway...... I don't personally like being stern to a dock on the finger pier. Rubber neckers and all plus there is no advantage. If you can sail out by backing in then okay... but if you motor out after backing in ... what's the point? It's 40 feet of distance max! Most likely it's only 20 feet of reverse. You can man handle even a 40 footer that distance by yourself. If the dock requires motoring out I load everyone and everything prior to slipping the dock lines.... then I shove her to the end of the slip.... line her up... step aboard... and put it in gear. Good Grief... it's not rocket science! This isn't the QE2... it's a 30 ft sailboat... they have dinghies that big. CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Never really thought about it. Shouldn't be any more difficult than backing in, should it? Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:a0qZd.31203$i6.6074@edtnps90... Yeah.. okay... but I don't see you whining about it being difficult to "back" your vessel out of your slip if needed do I!!?? If I'm by myself and the wind is against me... I'll rope my boat out and set the bow to the wind... then just jump in and whip the line off the bollard or cleat as I put the engine into gear. When I didn't have an engine... I rowed the damn thing out towing it with my punt! I clenched the bowline in my teeth!!!..... and it's a 6 ton full keel 30 footer!!! Of course anyone with a Hunter is retarded anyway! Crap.. you could tow that thing with a pedal boat! Load crew after you back from the slip??? What's with that!!?? CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I prefer to dock stern in so if the wind is favorable I can sail out. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hMpZd.31141$i6.4870@edtnps90... You back in a power boat you Yankee Doodle Dandy..... you sail in a sailboat! Anyone that has a problem backing out of a slip needs to seriously reassess their skill-set.... especially if it involves a fin keeler. To prove my point you only need to read Gaynzy's reply... he prefers backing in !!! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun. You back out a car ....you back in a boat. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:XWoZd.30970$i6.30104@edtnps90... You back in a car... you back out a boat. CM "rgnmstr" wrote in message oups.com... Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier. |
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Mooron tries it every where and knows what happens... all the buff guys want
some, but he's dedicated to his chickens. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:q4tZd.31472$i6.8285@edtnps90... You wouldn't try that around Gaynzy's marina I bet! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I don't have a full length finger pier. It's just plain easier for boarding, loading/unloading. Besides, in the Summer I sleep naked with the hatch open, so it's more fun being stern in. Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:amqZd.31284$i6.22143@edtnps90... Actually ... backing in is much more difficult with a sailboat than backing out. Well it is with a Crab Crusher like mine anyway...... I don't personally like being stern to a dock on the finger pier. Rubber neckers and all plus there is no advantage. If you can sail out by backing in then okay... but if you motor out after backing in ... what's the point? It's 40 feet of distance max! Most likely it's only 20 feet of reverse. You can man handle even a 40 footer that distance by yourself. If the dock requires motoring out I load everyone and everything prior to slipping the dock lines.... then I shove her to the end of the slip.... line her up... step aboard... and put it in gear. Good Grief... it's not rocket science! This isn't the QE2... it's a 30 ft sailboat... they have dinghies that big. CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Never really thought about it. Shouldn't be any more difficult than backing in, should it? Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:a0qZd.31203$i6.6074@edtnps90... Yeah.. okay... but I don't see you whining about it being difficult to "back" your vessel out of your slip if needed do I!!?? If I'm by myself and the wind is against me... I'll rope my boat out and set the bow to the wind... then just jump in and whip the line off the bollard or cleat as I put the engine into gear. When I didn't have an engine... I rowed the damn thing out towing it with my punt! I clenched the bowline in my teeth!!!..... and it's a 6 ton full keel 30 footer!!! Of course anyone with a Hunter is retarded anyway! Crap.. you could tow that thing with a pedal boat! Load crew after you back from the slip??? What's with that!!?? CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I prefer to dock stern in so if the wind is favorable I can sail out. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hMpZd.31141$i6.4870@edtnps90... You back in a power boat you Yankee Doodle Dandy..... you sail in a sailboat! Anyone that has a problem backing out of a slip needs to seriously reassess their skill-set.... especially if it involves a fin keeler. To prove my point you only need to read Gaynzy's reply... he prefers backing in !!! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun. You back out a car ....you back in a boat. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:XWoZd.30970$i6.30104@edtnps90... You back in a car... you back out a boat. CM "rgnmstr" wrote in message oups.com... Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier. |
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Knot without setting a few rat traps in the cockpit.
SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:q4tZd.31472$i6.8285@edtnps90... You wouldn't try that around Gaynzy's marina I bet! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I don't have a full length finger pier. It's just plain easier for boarding, loading/unloading. Besides, in the Summer I sleep naked with the hatch open, so it's more fun being stern in. Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:amqZd.31284$i6.22143@edtnps90... Actually ... backing in is much more difficult with a sailboat than backing out. Well it is with a Crab Crusher like mine anyway...... I don't personally like being stern to a dock on the finger pier. Rubber neckers and all plus there is no advantage. If you can sail out by backing in then okay... but if you motor out after backing in ... what's the point? It's 40 feet of distance max! Most likely it's only 20 feet of reverse. You can man handle even a 40 footer that distance by yourself. If the dock requires motoring out I load everyone and everything prior to slipping the dock lines.... then I shove her to the end of the slip.... line her up... step aboard... and put it in gear. Good Grief... it's not rocket science! This isn't the QE2... it's a 30 ft sailboat... they have dinghies that big. CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Never really thought about it. Shouldn't be any more difficult than backing in, should it? Scotty "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:a0qZd.31203$i6.6074@edtnps90... Yeah.. okay... but I don't see you whining about it being difficult to "back" your vessel out of your slip if needed do I!!?? If I'm by myself and the wind is against me... I'll rope my boat out and set the bow to the wind... then just jump in and whip the line off the bollard or cleat as I put the engine into gear. When I didn't have an engine... I rowed the damn thing out towing it with my punt! I clenched the bowline in my teeth!!!..... and it's a 6 ton full keel 30 footer!!! Of course anyone with a Hunter is retarded anyway! Crap.. you could tow that thing with a pedal boat! Load crew after you back from the slip??? What's with that!!?? CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I prefer to dock stern in so if the wind is favorable I can sail out. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:hMpZd.31141$i6.4870@edtnps90... You back in a power boat you Yankee Doodle Dandy..... you sail in a sailboat! Anyone that has a problem backing out of a slip needs to seriously reassess their skill-set.... especially if it involves a fin keeler. To prove my point you only need to read Gaynzy's reply... he prefers backing in !!! CM "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun. You back out a car ....you back in a boat. SV "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:XWoZd.30970$i6.30104@edtnps90... You back in a car... you back out a boat. CM "rgnmstr" wrote in message oups.com... Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier. |
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Capt. Mooron wrote:
Actually ... backing in is much more difficult with a sailboat than backing out. I dunno, it depends on conditions and on how picky you are. If there's a heavy cross-wind one time, and calm the next, obviously that's going to make more difference than whether you're going in or out. Well it is with a Crab Crusher like mine anyway...... I don't personally like being stern to a dock on the finger pier. Rubber neckers and all plus there is no advantage. With a double ender, it's probably not easier to get on or off by the stern. ... If you can sail out by backing in then okay... but if you motor out after backing in ... what's the point? It's 40 feet of distance max! Most likely it's only 20 feet of reverse. You can man handle even a 40 footer that distance by yourself. If the dock requires motoring out I load everyone and everything prior to slipping the dock lines.... then I shove her to the end of the slip.... line her up... step aboard... and put it in gear. If the boat moves when you push it, it's not a crab crusher. Maybe you mean a sustained shove? I can move our tugboat by hand, but it takes a bit of grunt & some patience. Full keel boats are a bit harder to maneuver. Good Grief... it's not rocket science! This isn't the QE2... it's a 30 ft sailboat... they have dinghies that big. True. Another good point you mentioned earlier was warping. Not rocket science, in fact to me it seems quite obvious... although some precautions are in order. And people get awfully funny about stringing lines across fairways inside the marina. I thought of training our old dog to take a spring line in his teeth, swim it out & put a wrap on a piling, then bring it back when the boat was clear. Don't know if my wife would have agreed to let her baby do that, though. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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