"Bob Crantz" wrote in message

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosins...A01-117640.htm

A classic example of the old tenet that actions have consequences.

Max

"DSK" wrote in message

Thom Stewart wrote:
Where good, humane, fair management exists, Unions do not. Where
business exists with management and labor working as a team, each
respecting one an other, there is nothing to gain with Unionism.


Definitely true.

Unions are just a method of countering the stupidity, greed, and
short-sightedness of ownership... and/or management... with stupidity,
greed, and short-sightedness from the workers. To coin a phrase, two
stupids don't make a smart!

This is getting scary, Doug, but I'm agreeing with much of what you've been
saying lately. Earth must have shifted on its axis, or something. Global
warming?

Max

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message

Doug,

"Two stupids don't make one smart"

You been observing ASA post and replies?

Good one, Thom. You beat me to it.

Max

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:23:45 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap:
Unions are just a method of countering the stupidity, greed, and

You're lying. You can't prove any of your statements.


short-sightedness of ownership... and/or management... with stupidity,
greed, and short-sightedness from the workers. To coin a phrase, two
stupids don't make a smart!

You're lying. You can't prove any of your statements.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

They're easy to prove. Go ask Jimmy Hoffa.


"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:23:45 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap:
Unions are just a method of countering the stupidity, greed, and

You're lying. You can't prove any of your statements.


short-sightedness of ownership... and/or management... with stupidity,
greed, and short-sightedness from the workers. To coin a phrase, two
stupids don't make a smart!

You're lying. You can't prove any of your statements.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"DSK" wrote
Unions are just a method of countering the stupidity, greed, and
short-sightedness of ownership... and/or management... with stupidity,
greed, and short-sightedness from the workers. To coin a phrase, two
stupids don't make a smart!


two half wits don't make a whole?
Scout

Might as well join in Thom!

I think perspective has much to do with how a person feels about unions.
Being from the same home town, we both know what happened to U.S. Steel,
Fairless Works, and maybe the union there had much to do with their demise.
I know guys who bragged about being able to fall asleep resting on a shovel.

But in the trades, the difference in training between union and non-union
tradesman is staggering. Take the Philadelphia Steamfitters for example.
Their training is a 10 year program into mastery. Drexel University
recognizes their 5 year apprenticeship as being worthy of 42 credits toward
a B.S. in Construction Management. I've played the hvac game on different
sides (owner, manager, non-union technician and union technician). I have to
say that it's tough to beat a union steamfitter for competency in that
field. I've seen more than one non-union shop go union just because they got
sick of losing techs to union jobs after they had gotten some experience.

There is always the exception, i.e., I've seen some outstanding non-union
technicians. And I've seen a few union guys who were bums. But hvac
contractors in Philadelphia don't hold onto bums and no one protects them.
If a contractor is not happy with a tech, they just cut him loose and bring
in someone better.

I guess what I'm saying is I see a huge difference between skilled, educated
union workers and other laborers (no offense to laborers).

Scout


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Ah Balls,

Wasn't going to get into this one BUT: not being a Union Man I do have
to put my 2 cents it.

Isn't obvious that the Unions, stupid or not are the direct results of
the STUPIDITY ON MANAGEMENT!!

Where good, humane, fair management exists, Unions do not. Where
business exists with management and labor working as a team, each
respecting one an other, there is nothing to gain with Unionism.

Ole Thom

Jimmy Hoffa is buried in the muck pond onthe property next door to us...the
old geezer who used to own the property said so...said that a black stretch
limo pulled into the access and men dragged a heavy bag out of the trunk and
disappeared into the woods....they returned a while later with no bag...he
said it was man-size...I asked him if he called the cops...he said "heck,
no...what do I want to wear cement boots for?"
I think he also ate pasture mushrooms a lot...

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
link.net...
They're easy to prove. Go ask Jimmy Hoffa.


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 12:23:45 -0500, DSK wrote
this crap:
Unions are just a method of countering the stupidity, greed, and

You're lying. You can't prove any of your statements.


short-sightedness of ownership... and/or management... with stupidity,
greed, and short-sightedness from the workers. To coin a phrase, two
stupids don't make a smart!

You're lying. You can't prove any of your statements.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Scout wrote:
two half wits don't make a whole?

Not when it's spelled like that

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Scout wrote:
two half wits don't make a whole?

Not when it's spelled like that

How about.. You can't make a whole wit two half-wits?

CM