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JG March 13th 05 08:00 PM

Bwahahaaa.... you're so obviously insecure about yourself.... keep at it
dufus.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Gee Whiz Gaynzy..... It's obvious that your rampant, idiotic blubbering
and incapability to formulate coherent replies has a lot to do with how
you are treated..... that and the fact you are a frail limp wristed
flaming HOMO!!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa....

CM


"JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, here's another example of fool. He filters me because I asked him
if his mother was a lesbian. But, he leaves unfiltered the likes of
Mooron and Scotti Potti. Typical.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"katysails" wrote in message

Annoyances, in my opinion, are best left ignored...if you pay attention
to peetty annoyances, they do become important to you for whatever
reason and take time away from things that would be more worthwhile...

Amen to that. I filtered Ganz a while back and can't begin to express
how different and how pleasant this NG is now. Ganz is one of those
spoiled malcontents with juvenile behavior that seem to be able to make
NGs a PITA. I only wish it were as easy to make undesirables disappear
in real life. g

Max








JG March 13th 05 08:00 PM

Bwahahaaaaa.... you're a wimp and you know it. It's obvious to EVERYONE!

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Bwahahahahahahahaaaa.... I'd slap you into a coma !

Heh Gaynzy.... why not pull the sign that says "Enter Here" outta your
ass.... then people would pay more attention to the tattoo on your
forehead that states " Don't pull on my Ears, I know what I'm doing"

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaaa.....

You limp wristed little HOMO!

CM



"JG" wrote in message
...
You're the limp wrist. You wouldn't dare say something like this in
person. You know it, I know it, and everyone else knows it. You're a
WIMP.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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DUH!!!.... it proves you're a limp wristed little faggot!!!

You fudge packin' little homo!

CM


"JG" wrote in message
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It proves something to himself. It's a bit sad actually.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katysails" wrote in message
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Why do you think it's a manly thing to make accusations like that? Not
that I'm defending Jon or anything...I just wonder why it seems so
important to you...


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"JG" wrote in message
...
I disagree completely. One doesn't have to be aggressive to assert
one's rights. I believe you're unable to comprehend this because you
are just plain stupid.

Well now Gaynzy... you're neither aggressive nor assertive... you're
just an annoying, whining little homo! Your incapacity of emulating
any masculine traits is positive proof that you are a limp wristed,
lisping queer! Your tendency to effeminate behaviour has no doubt
been the root cause of the abuse you've suffered throughout life.

Now why don't you return to memorizing the Vagina Monologues and
reapply more Preparation H while awaiting your next caller....

CM















JG March 13th 05 08:01 PM

Yup, it's definitely stupid talking.... keep at it Mooron. Someday you might
be mistaken for a man.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Gaynzy just had a sperm count done.... it's the first time they ever had
to use a stomach pump to get a sample!

Say "A-a-a-h-h-h-h-h-h-h" Gaynzy!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaa

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
No. It's the stupid talking.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"katysails" wrote in message

Well, you're wrong again...I'm not interested in doing all the Google
searches for the studies, but they're there...assertiveness can be
taught and used effectively, without aggression....you probably just
don't recognize it because the testosterone stands in the way...

Cut him some slack, Katy. It's the rum talkin'.

Max








Scout March 13th 05 08:36 PM

First-time jobless claims rose 17,000 to 327,000 last week from 310,000 the
prior week, the Labor Department said. Claims hit the highest level in two
months and came in above Wall Street economists' forecasts of an unchanged
reading of 310,000.

Well, there go 17,000 new home sales. Better luck next month Dave. I hear
Bush is promising plenty of new jobs in the food and hospitality fields. By
the way, thanks for the Reuters' link.
Scout

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...toryID=7870384



Scout March 13th 05 08:57 PM

Hey, I'm just posting links that support what I'm saying.
I guess you'd never do that.
Right Dave?

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 20:36:42 GMT, "Scout" said:

First-time jobless claims rose 17,000 to 327,000 last week from 310,000


Help. The sky is falling.




katysails March 13th 05 09:38 PM

To assert mean you have an opinion and are willing to stand by it...that is
not aggression....you really have been too far away from civilization and
for too long a time....your ideas have become warped and distorted away from
the common view....assertiveness is not aggression...assertiveness is when
the dog nudges you for a pat and doesn't take No for an answer.but you can
still walk away...aggressiveness is when he finally grabs your hand with his
teeth and bites down to remind you that he is in control...and the only way
you can walk away is to fight back or allow him to win...



"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:1OYYd.49077$fc4.21489@edtnps89...
Absolutely inaccurate assessment on your part Kitty. You seem to assume
aggressiveness as truculent behaviour.... that is misleading. To assert
is to take a stance.... that alone requires you assume an aggressive
posture.

The very action of being assertive requires that you are capable of
delineating how you will be treated or engaged. You are making a demand of
others.... that requires an aggressive posture.... unless you are making
a plea... which isn't assertive.

CM



"katysails" wrote in message
...
Well, you're wrong again...I'm not interested in doing all the Google
searches for the studies, but they're there...assertiveness can be taught
and used effectively, without aggression....you probably just don't
recognize it because the testosterone stands in the way...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IyNYd.23951$ZO2.4359@edtnps84...
Assertive behaviour is motivated by aggressive stance. If you stand your
ground... you are asserting your place... the very act of that is
aggressive. The meek can never be taught assertiveness.... I don't care
how many classes you give them.... they will fold like superman on
laundry day in the face of someone with a true assertive/aggressive
personality.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
You're wrong....there are people that specialize in training the meek
to be assertive...these people have not got an aggressive bone in their
bodies and get walked over....with assertiveness training, they are
able to start fending for themselves...has nothing to do with
aggression and everything to do with survival....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84...
Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive
attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a symptom
of an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression does not
have to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable to
comprehend this because as a female you are guided by emotion as
opposed to logic.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business whereas
aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment
lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions
and then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain
their goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or
continue to rise....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89...
I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make
erroneous assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average
male... aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive
nature is not required in a modern society is illogical. Even the few
women in a position of power show an extremely heightened sense of
aggressiveness and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has nothing to
do with it.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as
anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it
worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived
in but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in
an enlightened society is an anachronism...


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84...
NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and
assertiveness.... which is understandable. I will repeat myself
despite the fact I know you are not capable of understanding the
logic..... You cannot be assertive without being aggressive.

Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that
aggression requires physical intervention. It does not! Aggression
between males has a multi-tiered level.... none of which can be
comprehended by females. The level of aggressive behaviour is
dependant on the situation. This is comprehended by even the
youngest of our gender.

CM



CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in
the ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the
ground.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84...
You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of
asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your
subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This
situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral
indifference.

CM


"katysails" wrote in message
...
I am assertive....not aggressive....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90...
Aggression need not be physical....

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the
boots, chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89...
You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take
your own advise.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal
instinct and start using the tools that were given you to
negotiate and walk away from aggression?

































katysails March 13th 05 09:39 PM

Nah...that's a put-on....he just likes to use the rum as an excuse...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"katysails" wrote in message

Well, you're wrong again...I'm not interested in doing all the Google
searches for the studies, but they're there...assertiveness can be taught
and used effectively, without aggression....you probably just don't
recognize it because the testosterone stands in the way...


Cut him some slack, Katy. It's the rum talkin'.

Max




katysails March 13th 05 09:41 PM

Well, it is as easy but they tend to inject you with deadly substances or
fry you if you take that option...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"katysails" wrote in message

Annoyances, in my opinion, are best left ignored...if you pay attention
to peetty annoyances, they do become important to you for whatever reason
and take time away from things that would be more worthwhile...


Amen to that. I filtered Ganz a while back and can't begin to express how
different and how pleasant this NG is now. Ganz is one of those spoiled
malcontents with juvenile behavior that seem to be able to make NGs a
PITA. I only wish it were as easy to make undesirables disappear in real
life. g

Max




Capt. Mooron March 13th 05 10:38 PM

Not at all.... everyone has an opinion, that has nothing to do with
assertive behaviour.
The example of the dog is a poor one since you seem to think that refusal to
comply with a request is being assertive. Being assertive is refusal to
comply with direction or treatment that exceeds a boundary you have
established. Once that refusal is made... aggressive behaviour is enacted,
since the action of declining or taking a stand requires it.

Let's use another example. If someone where to direct you to fetch coffee...
even if done politely, compliance to that request is dependent on several
factors. Once you weigh the factors you make a decision to comply or refuse.

Now, what I'm saying is that such direction would never be considered nor
even directed to an aggressive personality..... since assertiveness goes
hand in hand with aggressive behaviour the "direction" would be quickly
reconsidered and reduced to a "request". A person who is non-aggressive or
not assertive would be the primary candidate for direction due to their
perceived position in the pecking order. To elevate yourself in the pecking
order requires you take a stand... that action requires you to be
aggressive.

While you may be assertive in presenting your point of view in this
matter... you have as well been aggressively defending your misconceptions.

CM


"katysails" wrote in message
...
To assert mean you have an opinion and are willing to stand by it...that
is not aggression....you really have been too far away from civilization
and for too long a time....your ideas have become warped and distorted
away from the common view....assertiveness is not
aggression...assertiveness is when the dog nudges you for a pat and
doesn't take No for an answer.but you can still walk away...aggressiveness
is when he finally grabs your hand with his teeth and bites down to remind
you that he is in control...and the only way you can walk away is to fight
back or allow him to win...



"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:1OYYd.49077$fc4.21489@edtnps89...
Absolutely inaccurate assessment on your part Kitty. You seem to assume
aggressiveness as truculent behaviour.... that is misleading. To assert
is to take a stance.... that alone requires you assume an aggressive
posture.

The very action of being assertive requires that you are capable of
delineating how you will be treated or engaged. You are making a demand
of others.... that requires an aggressive posture.... unless you are
making a plea... which isn't assertive.

CM



"katysails" wrote in message
...
Well, you're wrong again...I'm not interested in doing all the Google
searches for the studies, but they're there...assertiveness can be
taught and used effectively, without aggression....you probably just
don't recognize it because the testosterone stands in the way...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IyNYd.23951$ZO2.4359@edtnps84...
Assertive behaviour is motivated by aggressive stance. If you stand
your ground... you are asserting your place... the very act of that is
aggressive. The meek can never be taught assertiveness.... I don't
care how many classes you give them.... they will fold like superman on
laundry day in the face of someone with a true assertive/aggressive
personality.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
You're wrong....there are people that specialize in training the meek
to be assertive...these people have not got an aggressive bone in
their bodies and get walked over....with assertiveness training, they
are able to start fending for themselves...has nothing to do with
aggression and everything to do with survival....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:w6LYd.23554$ZO2.23116@edtnps84...
Again you fail to grasp the basic fact that without an aggressive
attitude... you cannot be assertive. Assertiveness is merely a
symptom of an aggressive nature, as is being competitive. Aggression
does not have to involve physical violence. I believe you are unable
to comprehend this because as a female you are guided by emotion as
opposed to logic.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Assertiveness works well in the competitive field of business
whereas aggressiveness will usually land you on the unemployment
lines...aggressive people generally rise fast in their professions
and then tank out early whereas the consistently assertive attain
their goals in a non-threatening manner and hold their positions or
continue to rise....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:N_EYd.46434$fc4.26583@edtnps89...
I believe it is indeed that you do not comprehend.... or make
erroneous assumptions regarding male aggression. In the average
male... aggressiveness is controlled. To submit that a competitive
nature is not required in a modern society is illogical. Even the
few women in a position of power show an extremely heightened sense
of aggressiveness and a competitive nature. Enlightenment has
nothing to do with it.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
It's not that we don't comprehend..it's that we reject that as
anything other than what it is....uncontrolled testosterone...it
worked for cavemen because that's the physical reality they lived
in but the idea of man (gender, not species) as hunter/gatherer in
an enlightened society is an anachronism...


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:5huYd.20032$ZO2.7495@edtnps84...
NO! Kitty.... You are confusing aggressiveness and
assertiveness.... which is understandable. I will repeat myself
despite the fact I know you are not capable of understanding the
logic..... You cannot be assertive without being aggressive.

Let's take the scenario you utilized.... you assume that
aggression requires physical intervention. It does not!
Aggression between males has a multi-tiered level.... none of
which can be comprehended by females. The level of aggressive
behaviour is dependant on the situation. This is comprehended by
even the youngest of our gender.

CM



CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
An assertive person makes their point by showing you the hole in
the ground; an aggressive person puts you in the hole in the
ground.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:gXrYd.19227$ZO2.4609@edtnps84...
You require aggressiveness to be assertive.... the very act of
asserting yourself, places others as either your equal or your
subordinate.... despite what they may have perceived. This
situation is not attained by passive compliance, nor neutral
indifference.

CM


"katysails" wrote in message
...
I am assertive....not aggressive....

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:hTpYd.20694$i6.18071@edtnps90...
Aggression need not be physical....

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
...
I am not a physically aggressive person....except for the
boots, chains, spurs, etc....but that's not the same thing...

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:xghYd.40369$fc4.33395@edtnps89...
You may indeed suggest it...... but I'd sooner you take
your own advise.

CM

"katysails" wrote in message
Well, may I suggest you rise above your base animal
instinct and start using the tools that were given you to
negotiate and walk away from aggression?



































Scott Vernon March 13th 05 11:26 PM

Obvious to everyone but gaynz.

SV

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:IC0Zd.29872$ZO2.17429@edtnps84...
Gee Whiz Gaynzy..... It's obvious that your rampant, idiotic

blubbering and
incapability to formulate coherent replies has a lot to do with how

you are
treated..... that and the fact you are a frail limp wristed flaming

HOMO!!!








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