Once again Capt Neal exposes the Ignorant
 

"Ha ha ha!" you all cry as you point at the good Capt's futuristic boom.
Then you all spout on how bad it is!

Ha ha ha! I say. Take a careful look at:

http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...69&fno=0&bts=T

The boom is bent just like the good Capt's. Why is it bent like that? For
superior sailing characteristics.

Once again the brilliant Captain pulls up a troll line of flapping
flounders!

Gilligan

Bwahahahaha... it's a HUNTER!

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"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Ha ha ha!" you all cry as you point at the good Capt's futuristic boom.
Then you all spout on how bad it is!

Ha ha ha! I say. Take a careful look at:

http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...69&fno=0&bts=T

The boom is bent just like the good Capt's. Why is it bent like that? For
superior sailing characteristics.

Once again the brilliant Captain pulls up a troll line of flapping
flounders!

Gilligan

Not a very good example. The main is loose footed so the shape of the
boom would have nothing to do with sail trim.
JR


Gilligan wrote:
"Ha ha ha!" you all cry as you point at the good Capt's futuristic boom.
Then you all spout on how bad it is!

Ha ha ha! I say. Take a careful look at:

http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...69&fno=0&bts=T

The boom is bent just like the good Capt's. Why is it bent like that? For
superior sailing characteristics.

Once again the brilliant Captain pulls up a troll line of flapping
flounders!

Gilligan

Here's a report on said boom:

http://www.sailnet.com/sailing/00/f&bjan00.htm

The report says:

"At the foot of that mainsail is a wide, curved boom "

The picture I referenced is worth a thousand words, but only to those who
read with their eyes.

Face it, flounders, cappy is one up one you again!

Gilligan

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:05:27 GMT, "Gilligan"
scribbled thusly:

"Ha ha ha!" you all cry as you point at the good Capt's futuristic boom.
Then you all spout on how bad it is!

Ha ha ha! I say. Take a careful look at:


http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...54869&fno=0&bt
s=T

The boom is bent just like the good Capt's. Why is it bent like that? For
superior sailing characteristics.

Once again the brilliant Captain pulls up a troll line of flapping
flounders!

Gilligan


It's not bent. It's TAPERED!
The reason for this tapering is to get a s light a boom as possible
yet still have the strength required where it's loaded in the middle.

Cappy has a heavy old, kinked boom...the only similarity is that that
are both on something that floats.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Once again. The mainsail is LOOSE FOOTED. The shape of the boom would
have NOTHING to do with sail trim.
JR

Gilligan wrote:

Here's a report on said boom:

http://www.sailnet.com/sailing/00/f&bjan00.htm

The report says:

"At the foot of that mainsail is a wide, curved boom "

The picture I referenced is worth a thousand words, but only to those who
read with their eyes.

Face it, flounders, cappy is one up one you again!

Gilligan

OzOne wrote in message ...

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:05:27 GMT, "Gilligan"
scribbled thusly:


"Ha ha ha!" you all cry as you point at the good Capt's futuristic boom.
Then you all spout on how bad it is!

Ha ha ha! I say. Take a careful look at:


http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...54869&fno=0&bt

s=T

The boom is bent just like the good Capt's. Why is it bent like that? For
superior sailing characteristics.

Once again the brilliant Captain pulls up a troll line of flapping
flounders!

Gilligan


It's not bent. It's TAPERED!
The reason for this tapering is to get a s light a boom as possible
yet still have the strength required where it's loaded in the middle.

Cappy has a heavy old, kinked boom...the only similarity is that that
are both on something that floats.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

I believe Capt Neal was first with this major sailing innovation. The proper
question to ask is, "How much is Hunter paying Capt Neal in royalties for
the use of such a superior innovation?"

Gilligan
OzOne wrote in message ...

One line is no "report"
I would bet that said boom is ondeed curved..ON THE BOTTOM.
and is straight on top.

Still, if I lose that bet and it is in fact curved, I wonder when the
galvanised iron filled, kinked version will appear?

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:42:06 GMT, "Gilligan"
scribbled thusly:

Here's a report on said boom:

http://www.sailnet.com/sailing/00/f&bjan00.htm

The report says:

"At the foot of that mainsail is a wide, curved boom "

The picture I referenced is worth a thousand words, but only to those who
read with their eyes.

Face it, flounders, cappy is one up one you again!

Gilligan

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:05:27 GMT, "Gilligan"
scribbled thusly:

"Ha ha ha!" you all cry as you point at the good Capt's futuristic
boom.
Then you all spout on how bad it is!

Ha ha ha! I say. Take a careful look at:



http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...154869&fno=0&b
t
s=T

The boom is bent just like the good Capt's. Why is it bent like that?
For
superior sailing characteristics.

Once again the brilliant Captain pulls up a troll line of flapping
flounders!

Gilligan


It's not bent. It's TAPERED!
The reason for this tapering is to get a s light a boom as possible
yet still have the strength required where it's loaded in the middle.

Cappy has a heavy old, kinked boom...the only similarity is that that
are both on something that floats.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.




Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Careful research will show other fine vessels incorporating the use of a
curved boom.

The reason they are not used more often is that it is very difficult to get
a controlled curve out of an extrusion die. Booms are extruded aluminum.

"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
.. .
Once again. The mainsail is LOOSE FOOTED. The shape of the boom would
have NOTHING to do with sail trim.
JR

Gilligan wrote:

Here's a report on said boom:

http://www.sailnet.com/sailing/00/f&bjan00.htm

The report says:

"At the foot of that mainsail is a wide, curved boom "

The picture I referenced is worth a thousand words, but only to those
who
read with their eyes.

Face it, flounders, cappy is one up one you again!

Gilligan

OzOne wrote in message
...

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 20:05:27 GMT, "Gilligan"
scribbled thusly:


"Ha ha ha!" you all cry as you point at the good Capt's futuristic
boom.
Then you all spout on how bad it is!

Ha ha ha! I say. Take a careful look at:



http://www.sailboatowners.com/boats/...154869&fno=0&b
t

s=T

The boom is bent just like the good Capt's. Why is it bent like that?
For
superior sailing characteristics.

Once again the brilliant Captain pulls up a troll line of flapping
flounders!

Gilligan


It's not bent. It's TAPERED!
The reason for this tapering is to get a s light a boom as possible
yet still have the strength required where it's loaded in the middle.

Cappy has a heavy old, kinked boom...the only similarity is that that
are both on something that floats.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Oh Cripe Neal & Gilly,

You're defending something that is only showing your lack of
understanding of sail trim. Completely!

Any sailor, worth his salt know damn well a bent main boom has nothing
to do with with proper sail trim. Cripes;--- haven't either of you ever
seen a "Wishbone" rig? What could be more bent than that?
Any sailor that have ever trimmed a main for light air, will reduce the
weight of the sail if he has a light air main but if he does or doesn't
he bags the main by using the "Topping Lift" Even is the boom is loaded
with pipe!!

Now, let's get to the problem of weight in the boom. ( A lesson for the
ignorant) Why isn't the Wishbone Rig more popular? Very simple. It has
TWO BOOMS! Why isn't a boom repaired with pipe good? Again, very simple.
Like two booms it's to heavy. That is the reason boom manufacturers are
always trying to lighten Booms. Aluminum, tapering, Carbonfibre etc.

Why? Again very simple. To lighten the weight that goes over the side of
the boat!!! Why? Simple! It adds to heeling. Why is this a problem?
Again simple. Every degree of heel reduces the height of to sail. Both
the Main and the Jib, Again, anybody but the ignorant knows this will
slow the vessel. The short rig on Neal's boat can't afford to much loss
of drive. It is slow enough as is. Racing sailors put crew on the rail
to counter healing. A singlehander has to make sail adjustments, like
adding twist to reduce heeling force aloft.

What adjustment can be made to overcome the weight of pipe, plus the
length of leverage of the boom, plus the height aloft? There is none!!!

Lesson over, and "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage

Ole Thom,

The backstay is used to bend the mast for sail shape. Likewise, it is
possible to bend the boom to trim the sail. It would be very expensive to
make bendable booms or curved booms so you don't see them much. I think you
owe Captain Neal and Gilligan an apology. The boom does bend, in fact, when
the sail is loaded and the vang is set tight.

Muffin Man

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Oh Cripe Neal & Gilly,

You're defending something that is only showing your lack of
understanding of sail trim. Completely!

Any sailor, worth his salt know damn well a bent main boom has nothing
to do with with proper sail trim. Cripes;--- haven't either of you ever
seen a "Wishbone" rig? What could be more bent than that?
Any sailor that have ever trimmed a main for light air, will reduce the
weight of the sail if he has a light air main but if he does or doesn't
he bags the main by using the "Topping Lift" Even is the boom is loaded
with pipe!!

Now, let's get to the problem of weight in the boom. ( A lesson for the
ignorant) Why isn't the Wishbone Rig more popular? Very simple. It has
TWO BOOMS! Why isn't a boom repaired with pipe good? Again, very simple.
Like two booms it's to heavy. That is the reason boom manufacturers are
always trying to lighten Booms. Aluminum, tapering, Carbonfibre etc.

Why? Again very simple. To lighten the weight that goes over the side of
the boat!!! Why? Simple! It adds to heeling. Why is this a problem?
Again simple. Every degree of heel reduces the height of to sail. Both
the Main and the Jib, Again, anybody but the ignorant knows this will
slow the vessel. The short rig on Neal's boat can't afford to much loss
of drive. It is slow enough as is. Racing sailors put crew on the rail
to counter healing. A singlehander has to make sail adjustments, like
adding twist to reduce heeling force aloft.

What adjustment can be made to overcome the weight of pipe, plus the
length of leverage of the boom, plus the height aloft? There is none!!!

Lesson over, and "I'LL DRINK TO THAT!"




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage

UP You'rs Muffin Man,

Learn to read!! I said there is nothing wrong with a bent Boom. I even
gave examples of curved booms in use.

It is the weight of the Boom that is the problem. Do you comprehend what
I'm saying? The Weight. The Boom and the Sails are the moving part of
the boat that go out board of the vessel. They produce Heeling Force.
Heeling is not a good force and excessive heeling is bad!

Go back and read with an open mind and learn.

If an apology is in order I would say you owe me one

Ole Thom