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Bart Senior February 23rd 05 02:29 AM

Rules of the Road #26
 
INLAND

A barge of more than 50 meters long would be
required to show how many white anchor lights
when anchored in a Secretary of Transportatoin
approved "Special anchorage area"?

A. 4
B. 3
C. 2
D. 1



Capt. Neal® February 23rd 05 02:17 PM


"Bart Senior" wrote in message ...
INLAND

A barge of more than 50 meters long would be
required to show how many white anchor lights
when anchored in a Secretary of Transportatoin
approved "Special anchorage area"?

A. 4
B. 3
C. 2
D. 1


C. is correct.

Joe February 23rd 05 02:27 PM

D.

Joe


DSK February 23rd 05 08:54 PM

Bart Senior wrote:
INLAND

A barge of more than 50 meters long would be
required to show how many white anchor lights
when anchored in a Secretary of Transportatoin
approved "Special anchorage area"?

A. 4
B. 3
C. 2
D. 1


The key here is "designated anchorage area." In any other location, it
would be required to display lights at all 4 corners, but here it's only
required to show 1.

Corollary... what sort & how many lights must an anchored or moored
sailing vessel display when in a designated anchorage zone?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


JG February 23rd 05 10:09 PM

None?

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"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Bart Senior wrote:
INLAND

A barge of more than 50 meters long would be
required to show how many white anchor lights
when anchored in a Secretary of Transportatoin
approved "Special anchorage area"?

A. 4
B. 3
C. 2
D. 1


The key here is "designated anchorage area." In any other location, it
would be required to display lights at all 4 corners, but here it's only
required to show 1.

Corollary... what sort & how many lights must an anchored or moored
sailing vessel display when in a designated anchorage zone?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Jeff Morris February 24th 05 08:43 PM

Joe wrote:
D.

Joe

wrong.

Jeff Morris February 24th 05 08:55 PM

DSK wrote:
Bart Senior wrote:

INLAND

A barge of more than 50 meters long would be
required to show how many white anchor lights
when anchored in a Secretary of Transportatoin
approved "Special anchorage area"?

A. 4
B. 3
C. 2
D. 1



The key here is "designated anchorage area." In any other location, it
would be required to display lights at all 4 corners, but here it's only
required to show 1.

Corollary... what sort & how many lights must an anchored or moored
sailing vessel display when in a designated anchorage zone?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

What??? What rule is this? The "special anchorage rule" only applies
to vessels under 20 meters.

Capt. Neal® February 24th 05 11:44 PM

Joe did get a lot of them wrong. He must have been hung over or something.
He's usually sharp as a tack.

On the other hand, I only missed one or two and I did not spend two days
looking up the answers like you did, Jeff. I answered strictly from memory
and experience, both of which I have more of than you, Shen44 and otnmbrd
combined.

CN


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
Joe wrote:
D.

Joe

wrong.


otnmbrd February 25th 05 04:47 AM

Jeff Morris wrote:
DSK wrote:

Bart Senior wrote:

INLAND

A barge of more than 50 meters long would be
required to show how many white anchor lights
when anchored in a Secretary of Transportatoin
approved "Special anchorage area"?

A. 4
B. 3
C. 2
D. 1




The key here is "designated anchorage area." In any other location, it
would be required to display lights at all 4 corners, but here it's
only required to show 1.

Corollary... what sort & how many lights must an anchored or moored
sailing vessel display when in a designated anchorage zone?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

What??? What rule is this? The "special anchorage rule" only applies
to vessels under 20 meters.


This used to be part of the Inland Rules ..... don't think it still exist.

otn

otnmbrd February 25th 05 05:10 AM

Capt. Neal® wrote:
Joe did get a lot of them wrong. He must have been hung over or something.
He's usually sharp as a tack.

On the other hand, I only missed one or two and I did not spend two days
looking up the answers like you did, Jeff. I answered strictly from
memory and experience, both of which I have more of than you, Shen44 and
otnmbrd
combined.

CN


If your answers are any indication, I'd say your experience and memory
need work ..... coupled with the fact that you should have a copy of the
rules on your boat and only a fool would answer some of those questions
without checking the implications of the wording ..... course......nuff
said.

otn


Jeff Morris February 25th 05 01:16 PM

Capt. Neal® wrote:
Joe did get a lot of them wrong. He must have been hung over or something.
He's usually sharp as a tack.


Joe missed far too many. Given that you answered first it was a
pretty pathetic showing on his part. Back to the classroom, Joe!


On the other hand, I only missed one or two and I did not spend two days
looking up the answers like you did, Jeff.


I figured that was the case, and you did better than the average joe.
I only looked up the tow light question, because I've had very
little experience with Inland tows for the last 4 years.

You missed two questions - one pretty easy, the other rather obscure.
However, insisting you're right when you're obviously wrong is a
real blunder - Its more important to understand your weaknesses and
compensate, than to take a random guess and and insist you're right.

Joe February 25th 05 01:22 PM

So what! I did all the questions in less than 8 min. Took you experts 2
days to lookup and review the answers before you dared to answer. I
only miss 3-4. I think thats better than the 75% needed to pass a USCG
test.

And I havent studied in 10+ years

Joe


Jeff Morris February 25th 05 02:26 PM

Joe wrote:
So what! I did all the questions in less than 8 min. Took you experts 2
days to lookup and review the answers before you dared to answer.


Your time tags say you spent an hour, about the same time I did. I
didn't want to answer first because it just spoils the fun!

I
only miss 3-4. I think thats better than the 75% needed to pass a USCG
test.


7 wrong out of 18, but who's counting?
90% is the passing grade, Joe.

And I havent studied in 10+ years


Maybe this should be a wakeup call.

DSK February 25th 05 03:37 PM

What??? What rule is this? The "special anchorage rule" only applies
to vessels under 20 meters.



otnmbrd wrote:
This used to be part of the Inland Rules ..... don't think it still exist.


You may be right, I'll have to go look that one up. FWIW it used to be
the case that any vessel in a state or federal designated anchorage did
not have to show any lights. I think this is still the case for a couple
of spots near NC ports.

Don't ask the Coast Guard, they'll give you a ticket anyway.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


otnmbrd February 25th 05 07:28 PM

EG Hmmmmm I have him missing 5

otn

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Capt. Neal® wrote:
Joe did get a lot of them wrong. He must have been hung over or
something.
He's usually sharp as a tack.


Joe missed far too many. Given that you answered first it was a pretty
pathetic showing on his part. Back to the classroom, Joe!


On the other hand, I only missed one or two and I did not spend two days
looking up the answers like you did, Jeff.


I figured that was the case, and you did better than the average joe. I
only looked up the tow light question, because I've had very little
experience with Inland tows for the last 4 years.

You missed two questions - one pretty easy, the other rather obscure.
However, insisting you're right when you're obviously wrong is a real
blunder - Its more important to understand your weaknesses and compensate,
than to take a random guess and and insist you're right.




Joe February 25th 05 07:44 PM

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Joe wrote:
So what! I did all the questions in less than 8 min. Took you experts

2
days to lookup and review the answers before you dared to answer.



Your time tags say you spent an hour, about the same time I did. I
didn't want to answer first because it just spoils the fun!


I
only miss 3-4. I think thats better than the 75% needed to pass a

USCG
test.



7 wrong out of 18, but who's counting?
90% is the passing grade, Joe.

Otn's counting i guess:0)

Hopefully Bart will give a final review and summary with time being a
major factor towards a final overall grade, When you sit for a ticket
IIRC it is a timed test. Hell if you had 2 days and the colregs on your
desk even Bobspirt could pass.

Joe

Joe


Bart Senior February 25th 05 11:47 PM

Jeff is right for Rules of the Road it is 90%. For the other
tests passing is 70%

"Jeff Morris" wrote

90% is the passing grade, Joe.




Bart Senior February 25th 05 11:53 PM

The test is not timed--except I believe you must finish
a test you start that same day.

These are not easy questions. In fact, they are cleverly
tricky and worded so that if you don't read them closely
you can be mislead into choosing the wrong answer.

Also, I've seen plenty of losers out there with licenses
that have no clue what they are doing. A friend of mine
without a license--who is an outstanding sailor, brings
along a clueless, but licensed Captain just to be legal.

In general, I am not impressed with people who go around
waiving their ticket and making a big deal about it. They
tend to be the ones that have the least skills.

Bart

Bart

''Joe" wrote

I
only miss 3-4. I think thats better than the 75% needed to pass a

USCG
test.



7 wrong out of 18, but who's counting?
90% is the passing grade, Joe.

Otn's counting i guess:0)

Hopefully Bart will give a final review and summary with time being a
major factor towards a final overall grade, When you sit for a ticket
IIRC it is a timed test. Hell if you had 2 days and the colregs on your
desk even Bobspirt could pass.

Joe

Joe




otnmbrd February 26th 05 12:17 AM

Joe wrote:
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Joe wrote:

So what! I did all the questions in less than 8 min. Took you experts


2

days to lookup and review the answers before you dared to answer.




Your time tags say you spent an hour, about the same time I did. I
didn't want to answer first because it just spoils the fun!



I
only miss 3-4. I think thats better than the 75% needed to pass a


USCG

test.




7 wrong out of 18, but who's counting?
90% is the passing grade, Joe.

Otn's counting i guess:0)

Hopefully Bart will give a final review and summary with time being a
major factor towards a final overall grade, When you sit for a ticket
IIRC it is a timed test. Hell if you had 2 days and the colregs on your
desk even Bobspirt could pass.

Joe

Joe


EG Yup, Joe, I'm counting, including my own "first glance" answers,
but those results have been marked "top secret".

otn

Bart Senior February 27th 05 01:04 AM

The correct answer is C

INLAND

A barge of more than 50 meters long would be
required to show how many white anchor lights
when anchored in a Secretary of Transportatoin
approved "Special anchorage area"?

A. 4
B. 3
C. 2
D. 1




Bart Senior February 27th 05 01:07 AM

1 point to Captain Neal.





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