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Jeff Morris February 26th 05 01:52 AM

Capt. Neal® wrote:
A vessel towing has two masthead lights in a row. These lights are white
and
are often referred to as towing lights.


No. They're referred to as "masthead lights."

When you meet a tug towing behind
you will see the normal running lights plus the two towing lights
(masthead lights)

This is where the confusion lies. Those two white lights tell you this
vessel is
towing. Towing lights - get it?


Rule 21 (d) “Towing light” means a yellow light having the same
characteristics as the “sternlight” defined in paragraph (c) of this
Rule."

Got it?

This is a "rules test." Not a "I forgot the rules so I'll just make
up nonsense test."




CN


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Bart Senior wrote:

You didn't post an answer Jeff.



You're right. I didn't feel the need for points this time. I only
got interesting when I saw how poorly Joe and Neal were doing.

Neal and Joe are both wrong, it is not B or D.


But I did say that they were both wrong on this one.



I'll admit it is not a simple question. These are the
typical confusing questions the USCG asks.



A towing light is defined as being "just like a stern light, except
yellow." How can that be confused with white, all around, or at the
bow? There are lots of confusing questions; this is not one of them.


Capt. Neal® February 26th 05 01:57 AM

Two masthead lights means it is towing. Two masthead lights means towing. Two
masthead lights are often called towing lights.

CN


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
Capt. Neal® wrote:
A vessel towing has two masthead lights in a row. These lights are white and
are often referred to as towing lights.


No. They're referred to as "masthead lights."

When you meet a tug towing behind
you will see the normal running lights plus the two towing lights (masthead lights)

This is where the confusion lies. Those two white lights tell you this vessel is
towing. Towing lights - get it?


Rule 21 (d) “Towing light” means a yellow light having the same characteristics as the “sternlight” defined in paragraph (c) of
this Rule."

Got it?

This is a "rules test." Not a "I forgot the rules so I'll just make up nonsense test."




CN


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...

Bart Senior wrote:

You didn't post an answer Jeff.


You're right. I didn't feel the need for points this time. I only got interesting when I saw how poorly Joe and Neal were
doing.

Neal and Joe are both wrong, it is not B or D.

But I did say that they were both wrong on this one.



I'll admit it is not a simple question. These are the
typical confusing questions the USCG asks.


A towing light is defined as being "just like a stern light, except yellow." How can that be confused with white, all around,
or at the bow? There are lots of confusing questions; this is not one of them.



Jeff Morris February 26th 05 02:03 AM

Capt. Neal® wrote:
Two masthead lights means it is towing. Two masthead lights means
towing. Two masthead lights are often called towing lights by those
of us who don't know the rules.

CN


That says it all.




"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Capt. Neal® wrote:

A vessel towing has two masthead lights in a row. These lights are
white and
are often referred to as towing lights.



No. They're referred to as "masthead lights."

When you meet a tug towing behind
you will see the normal running lights plus the two towing lights
(masthead lights)

This is where the confusion lies. Those two white lights tell you
this vessel is
towing. Towing lights - get it?



Rule 21 (d) “Towing light” means a yellow light having the same
characteristics as the “sternlight” defined in paragraph (c) of this
Rule."

Got it?

This is a "rules test." Not a "I forgot the rules so I'll just make
up nonsense test."




CN


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Bart Senior wrote:

You didn't post an answer Jeff.



You're right. I didn't feel the need for points this time. I only
got interesting when I saw how poorly Joe and Neal were doing.

Neal and Joe are both wrong, it is not B or D.

But I did say that they were both wrong on this one.



I'll admit it is not a simple question. These are the
typical confusing questions the USCG asks.



A towing light is defined as being "just like a stern light, except
yellow." How can that be confused with white, all around, or at the
bow? There are lots of confusing questions; this is not one of them.




Capt. Neal® February 26th 05 02:10 AM

Green over white trawling tonite
Red over green sailing machine
Red over red pilot is dead, etc.

Green over white equals trawling lights
Red over green equals sailing lights
Red over red means Not Under Command.

Two white masthead lights means towing.

Get it now?

CN
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
Capt. Neal® wrote:
Two masthead lights means it is towing. Two masthead lights means towing. Two masthead lights are often called towing lights by
those
of us who don't know the rules.

CN


That says it all.




"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...

Capt. Neal® wrote:

A vessel towing has two masthead lights in a row. These lights are white and
are often referred to as towing lights.


No. They're referred to as "masthead lights."

When you meet a tug towing behind
you will see the normal running lights plus the two towing lights (masthead lights)

This is where the confusion lies. Those two white lights tell you this vessel is
towing. Towing lights - get it?


Rule 21 (d) “Towing light” means a yellow light having the same characteristics as the “sternlight” defined in paragraph (c) of
this Rule."

Got it?

This is a "rules test." Not a "I forgot the rules so I'll just make up nonsense test."




CN


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...

Bart Senior wrote:

You didn't post an answer Jeff.



You're right. I didn't feel the need for points this time. I only got interesting when I saw how poorly Joe and Neal were
doing.

Neal and Joe are both wrong, it is not B or D.

But I did say that they were both wrong on this one.



I'll admit it is not a simple question. These are the
typical confusing questions the USCG asks.



A towing light is defined as being "just like a stern light, except yellow." How can that be confused with white, all around,
or at the bow? There are lots of confusing questions; this is not one of them.



otnmbrd February 26th 05 02:20 AM

Capt. Neal® wrote:
Green over white trawling tonite
Red over green sailing machine
Red over red pilot is dead, etc.

Green over white equals trawling lights
Red over green equals sailing lights
Red over red means Not Under Command.

Two white masthead lights means towing.

Get it now?

CN


I don't get it, since two white "masthead lights" might mean a
powerdriven vessel 50 meters in length or greater.
You're grasping at straws, Neal.

otn

Jeff Morris February 26th 05 02:22 AM

the PILOT is dead??? Its "read over red, the captain is dead." You
don't even know the correct phrase!

Sorry Neal, a towing light is yellow, not white. But keep showing
your ignorance, its amusing!


Capt. Neal® wrote:
Green over white trawling tonite
Red over green sailing machine
Red over red pilot is dead, etc.

Green over white equals trawling lights
Red over green equals sailing lights
Red over red means Not Under Command.

Two white masthead lights means towing.

Get it now?

CN
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Two masthead lights means it is towing. Two masthead lights means
towing. Two masthead lights are often called towing lights by those


of us who don't know the rules.



CN



That says it all.




"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Capt. Neal® wrote:

A vessel towing has two masthead lights in a row. These lights are
white and
are often referred to as towing lights.



No. They're referred to as "masthead lights."

When you meet a tug towing behind
you will see the normal running lights plus the two towing lights
(masthead lights)

This is where the confusion lies. Those two white lights tell you
this vessel is
towing. Towing lights - get it?



Rule 21 (d) “Towing light” means a yellow light having the same
characteristics as the “sternlight” defined in paragraph (c) of this
Rule."

Got it?

This is a "rules test." Not a "I forgot the rules so I'll just make
up nonsense test."




CN


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

Bart Senior wrote:

You didn't post an answer Jeff.




You're right. I didn't feel the need for points this time. I
only got interesting when I saw how poorly Joe and Neal were doing.

Neal and Joe are both wrong, it is not B or D.

But I did say that they were both wrong on this one.



I'll admit it is not a simple question. These are the
typical confusing questions the USCG asks.




A towing light is defined as being "just like a stern light,
except yellow." How can that be confused with white, all around,
or at the bow? There are lots of confusing questions; this is not
one of them.



Capt. Neal® February 26th 05 02:23 AM

OK OK then, I got it wrong. I admit it. That makes three wrong.

CN

"otnmbrd" wrote in message ink.net...
Capt. Neal® wrote:
Green over white trawling tonite
Red over green sailing machine
Red over red pilot is dead, etc.

Green over white equals trawling lights
Red over green equals sailing lights
Red over red means Not Under Command.

Two white masthead lights means towing.

Get it now?

CN


I don't get it, since two white "masthead lights" might mean a powerdriven vessel 50 meters in length or greater.
You're grasping at straws, Neal.

otn



Capt. Neal® February 26th 05 02:26 AM



I give up. You guys are too stubborn to listen to reason . . .

CN


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
the PILOT is dead??? Its "read over red, the captain is dead." You don't even know the correct phrase!

Sorry Neal, a towing light is yellow, not white. But keep showing your ignorance, its amusing!


Capt. Neal® wrote:
Green over white trawling tonite
Red over green sailing machine
Red over red pilot is dead, etc.

Green over white equals trawling lights
Red over green equals sailing lights
Red over red means Not Under Command.

Two white masthead lights means towing.

Get it now?

CN
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Two masthead lights means it is towing. Two masthead lights means towing. Two masthead lights are often called towing lights by
those

of us who don't know the rules.


CN


That says it all.




"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...

Capt. Neal® wrote:

A vessel towing has two masthead lights in a row. These lights are white and
are often referred to as towing lights.



No. They're referred to as "masthead lights."

When you meet a tug towing behind
you will see the normal running lights plus the two towing lights (masthead lights)

This is where the confusion lies. Those two white lights tell you this vessel is
towing. Towing lights - get it?



Rule 21 (d) “Towing light” means a yellow light having the same characteristics as the “sternlight” defined in paragraph (c)
of this Rule."

Got it?

This is a "rules test." Not a "I forgot the rules so I'll just make up nonsense test."




CN


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...

Bart Senior wrote:

You didn't post an answer Jeff.




You're right. I didn't feel the need for points this time. I only got interesting when I saw how poorly Joe and Neal were
doing.

Neal and Joe are both wrong, it is not B or D.

But I did say that they were both wrong on this one.



I'll admit it is not a simple question. These are the
typical confusing questions the USCG asks.




A towing light is defined as being "just like a stern light, except yellow." How can that be confused with white, all
around, or at the bow? There are lots of confusing questions; this is not one of them.




otnmbrd February 26th 05 03:40 AM

Capt. Neal® wrote:


I give up. You guys are too stubborn to listen to reason . . .

CN


G More than willing to listen to reason.
Too old and stubborn to accept obvious, CYA BS ......

otn

Bart Senior February 27th 05 12:42 AM

I'll give you 1/2 a point because I'm sure you knew the answer.

You are pretty good with the Rules Jeff!

"Jeff Morris" wrote
Bart Senior wrote:
You didn't post an answer Jeff.


You're right. I didn't feel the need for points this time. I only got
interesting when I saw how poorly Joe and Neal were doing.





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