To Captain Neal
 

As I understand it from this newsgroup, you have an identical coronado to
mine, except, I think you have a shoal keel and I do not. Apart from this
difference, I believe they are more or less identical, though i suspectthat
you have updated your interior as your's is a live aboard vessel. I am
currently in the middle of a refit and would appreciate your advice.

My first concern is the actual eorking infrastructure, I need to replace or
repair the water tank and the water fixtures. Is your tank (or was it
originally) only fillable from inside the boat under the aft seat? if so,
did you refit this item? Did you replace your water fixtures in the head
and galley? if so, how did you pulmb them? Did you fit a sea-water pump,
if so, how is it plumbed to the outside?

I am getting rid of the door on the head and building a nav station above
the port side galley. Any advice?

I am fitting my nav instruments on a swinging peice of teak that will be
able to swing into the companionway while underway. How are your
instruments fit? Do you have an outboard, or one of Coronado's old
saildrive motors. What is your maximum speed underway with motor only?

So many questions, so little space.

Sailing Dave - The Storm and The Spray

Sorry I did not answer your post the first time, Dave.

I thought you were a Bertie the Bunyip sock puppet.

Have you visited my website?

There are lots of pictures there that might help you with your
conversions.

http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

Just follow the links to the interior where you will see all the modifications
I have made.

I raised the dinette and put a fill in the water tank on the side of the
raised area. I also put another 18-gallon water tank under the center
of the cockpit between the two large stringers.

I used hand pumps for water both in the head and the galley and have
put tubing with a tee and a valve so I can draw water from either tank
from either sink. I put a cockpit fill (little perfections page) in for
the under cockpit tank but still have to fill the settee tank from inside
the vessel though it is on the side of the settee now so I don't have
to move the cushion. I also got rid of the old, rotten wooden top for
the tank and replaced it with plastic - Star Board.


I got rid of the door to the head and reversed the hanging locker door
so it would open against the mast post. It gives a bit of privacy for the
head this way

The swinging instrument board works well. I now have an outside depth sounder
which makes the use of the board optional.

I use a 9.9 Honda Four which powers the boat to hull speed at about
half throttle in mild conditions. It gets great gas mileage and is very
quiet. It is on the transom in the factory cut-out.

Feel free to ask more questions here as there are many more
people here who could profit from discussing boats for once.

CN


"Sailing Dave" wrote in message rver.com...
As I understand it from this newsgroup, you have an identical coronado to
mine, except, I think you have a shoal keel and I do not. Apart from this
difference, I believe they are more or less identical, though i suspectthat
you have updated your interior as your's is a live aboard vessel. I am
currently in the middle of a refit and would appreciate your advice.

My first concern is the actual eorking infrastructure, I need to replace or
repair the water tank and the water fixtures. Is your tank (or was it
originally) only fillable from inside the boat under the aft seat? if so,
did you refit this item? Did you replace your water fixtures in the head
and galley? if so, how did you pulmb them? Did you fit a sea-water pump,
if so, how is it plumbed to the outside?

I am getting rid of the door on the head and building a nav station above
the port side galley. Any advice?

I am fitting my nav instruments on a swinging peice of teak that will be
able to swing into the companionway while underway. How are your
instruments fit? Do you have an outboard, or one of Coronado's old
saildrive motors. What is your maximum speed underway with motor only?

So many questions, so little space.

Sailing Dave - The Storm and The Spray

Good idea withn the locker door.

Your website says that you can access salt water from the galley sink. How
did you plumb that, or is one of your tanks filled with salt water and, if
so, why?

Did you replace the head?

Did you replace the settee tank itself?

How is your bulkhead fixed to the fiberglass? Is it simply constructed of
marine plywood, or did you glass over the whole thing?

I am planning to do away with the dinette entirely, as I do not really use
it anyway and the lack of floor space under the portside seat is maddening.
I am planning to make a sofa pit out of that side with a conversion kit to
turn the entire space into a bed (for me and wife and the kids up in the
berth) Any experience with this arrangement?

Have you covered the glass ceiling and walls with any sort of fabric at all?

BTW, you have a fine looking vessel. have you sailed it far? I have done
Duluth to Quebec in two years. I plan a complete tour of the Great Lakes
this summer and a Trans-A the following summer Cleveland to Cleveland,
England.

dave





"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Sorry I did not answer your post the first time, Dave.

I thought you were a Bertie the Bunyip sock puppet.

Have you visited my website?

There are lots of pictures there that might help you with your
conversions.
http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

Just follow the links to the interior where you will see all the
modifications
I have made.
I raised the dinette and put a fill in the water tank on the side of the
raised area. I also put another 18-gallon water tank under the center
of the cockpit between the two large stringers.
I used hand pumps for water both in the head and the galley and have
put tubing with a tee and a valve so I can draw water from either tank
from either sink. I put a cockpit fill (little perfections page) in for
the under cockpit tank but still have to fill the settee tank from inside
the vessel though it is on the side of the settee now so I don't have
to move the cushion. I also got rid of the old, rotten wooden top for
the tank and replaced it with plastic - Star Board.


I got rid of the door to the head and reversed the hanging locker door
so it would open against the mast post. It gives a bit of privacy for the
head this way

The swinging instrument board works well. I now have an outside depth
sounder
which makes the use of the board optional.

I use a 9.9 Honda Four which powers the boat to hull speed at about
half throttle in mild conditions. It gets great gas mileage and is very
quiet. It is on the transom in the factory cut-out.

Feel free to ask more questions here as there are many more
people here who could profit from discussing boats for once.

CN


"Sailing Dave" wrote in message
rver.com...
As I understand it from this newsgroup, you have an identical coronado to
mine, except, I think you have a shoal keel and I do not. Apart from
this difference, I believe they are more or less identical, though i
suspectthat you have updated your interior as your's is a live aboard
vessel. I am currently in the middle of a refit and would appreciate
your advice.

My first concern is the actual eorking infrastructure, I need to replace
or repair the water tank and the water fixtures. Is your tank (or was it
originally) only fillable from inside the boat under the aft seat? if
so, did you refit this item? Did you replace your water fixtures in the
head and galley? if so, how did you pulmb them? Did you fit a sea-water
pump, if so, how is it plumbed to the outside?

I am getting rid of the door on the head and building a nav station above
the port side galley. Any advice?

I am fitting my nav instruments on a swinging peice of teak that will be
able to swing into the companionway while underway. How are your
instruments fit? Do you have an outboard, or one of Coronado's old
saildrive motors. What is your maximum speed underway with motor only?

So many questions, so little space.

Sailing Dave - The Storm and The Spray

What sort of weather have you weathered with the Mustard? largest seas I
have seen was 14 footers on Erie and 45 knot winds. The boat didn't mind as
much as I did. I truly didn't think we were coming back. The engine was a
joke and the waves pounded us without mercy. Took on water to the top of
the settee seats. BAD TIME.
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Sorry I did not answer your post the first time, Dave.

I thought you were a Bertie the Bunyip sock puppet.

Have you visited my website?

There are lots of pictures there that might help you with your
conversions.
http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

Just follow the links to the interior where you will see all the
modifications
I have made.
I raised the dinette and put a fill in the water tank on the side of the
raised area. I also put another 18-gallon water tank under the center
of the cockpit between the two large stringers.
I used hand pumps for water both in the head and the galley and have
put tubing with a tee and a valve so I can draw water from either tank
from either sink. I put a cockpit fill (little perfections page) in for
the under cockpit tank but still have to fill the settee tank from inside
the vessel though it is on the side of the settee now so I don't have
to move the cushion. I also got rid of the old, rotten wooden top for
the tank and replaced it with plastic - Star Board.


I got rid of the door to the head and reversed the hanging locker door
so it would open against the mast post. It gives a bit of privacy for the
head this way

The swinging instrument board works well. I now have an outside depth
sounder
which makes the use of the board optional.

I use a 9.9 Honda Four which powers the boat to hull speed at about
half throttle in mild conditions. It gets great gas mileage and is very
quiet. It is on the transom in the factory cut-out.

Feel free to ask more questions here as there are many more
people here who could profit from discussing boats for once.

CN


"Sailing Dave" wrote in message
rver.com...
As I understand it from this newsgroup, you have an identical coronado to
mine, except, I think you have a shoal keel and I do not. Apart from
this difference, I believe they are more or less identical, though i
suspectthat you have updated your interior as your's is a live aboard
vessel. I am currently in the middle of a refit and would appreciate
your advice.

My first concern is the actual eorking infrastructure, I need to replace
or repair the water tank and the water fixtures. Is your tank (or was it
originally) only fillable from inside the boat under the aft seat? if
so, did you refit this item? Did you replace your water fixtures in the
head and galley? if so, how did you pulmb them? Did you fit a sea-water
pump, if so, how is it plumbed to the outside?

I am getting rid of the door on the head and building a nav station above
the port side galley. Any advice?

I am fitting my nav instruments on a swinging peice of teak that will be
able to swing into the companionway while underway. How are your
instruments fit? Do you have an outboard, or one of Coronado's old
saildrive motors. What is your maximum speed underway with motor only?

So many questions, so little space.

Sailing Dave - The Storm and The Spray

What sort of weather have you weathered with the Mustard? largest seas I
have seen was 14 footers on Erie and 45 knot winds. The boat didn't mind as
much as I did. I truly didn't think we were coming back. The engine was a
joke and the waves pounded us without mercy. Took on water to the top of
the settee seats. BAD TIME.


"Sailing Dave" wrote in message
rver.com...
Good idea withn the locker door.

Your website says that you can access salt water from the galley sink.
How did you plumb that, or is one of your tanks filled with salt water
and, if so, why?

Did you replace the head?

Did you replace the settee tank itself?

How is your bulkhead fixed to the fiberglass? Is it simply constructed of
marine plywood, or did you glass over the whole thing?

I am planning to do away with the dinette entirely, as I do not really use
it anyway and the lack of floor space under the portside seat is
maddening. I am planning to make a sofa pit out of that side with a
conversion kit to turn the entire space into a bed (for me and wife and
the kids up in the berth) Any experience with this arrangement?

Have you covered the glass ceiling and walls with any sort of fabric at
all?

BTW, you have a fine looking vessel. have you sailed it far? I have done
Duluth to Quebec in two years. I plan a complete tour of the Great Lakes
this summer and a Trans-A the following summer Cleveland to Cleveland,
England.

dave





"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Sorry I did not answer your post the first time, Dave.

I thought you were a Bertie the Bunyip sock puppet.

Have you visited my website?

There are lots of pictures there that might help you with your
conversions.
http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

Just follow the links to the interior where you will see all the
modifications
I have made.
I raised the dinette and put a fill in the water tank on the side of the
raised area. I also put another 18-gallon water tank under the center
of the cockpit between the two large stringers.
I used hand pumps for water both in the head and the galley and have
put tubing with a tee and a valve so I can draw water from either tank
from either sink. I put a cockpit fill (little perfections page) in for
the under cockpit tank but still have to fill the settee tank from inside
the vessel though it is on the side of the settee now so I don't have
to move the cushion. I also got rid of the old, rotten wooden top for
the tank and replaced it with plastic - Star Board.


I got rid of the door to the head and reversed the hanging locker door
so it would open against the mast post. It gives a bit of privacy for the
head this way

The swinging instrument board works well. I now have an outside depth
sounder
which makes the use of the board optional.

I use a 9.9 Honda Four which powers the boat to hull speed at about
half throttle in mild conditions. It gets great gas mileage and is very
quiet. It is on the transom in the factory cut-out.

Feel free to ask more questions here as there are many more
people here who could profit from discussing boats for once.

CN


"Sailing Dave" wrote in message
rver.com...
As I understand it from this newsgroup, you have an identical coronado
to mine, except, I think you have a shoal keel and I do not. Apart from
this difference, I believe they are more or less identical, though i
suspectthat you have updated your interior as your's is a live aboard
vessel. I am currently in the middle of a refit and would appreciate
your advice.

My first concern is the actual eorking infrastructure, I need to replace
or repair the water tank and the water fixtures. Is your tank (or was
it originally) only fillable from inside the boat under the aft seat?
if so, did you refit this item? Did you replace your water fixtures in
the head and galley? if so, how did you pulmb them? Did you fit a
sea-water pump, if so, how is it plumbed to the outside?

I am getting rid of the door on the head and building a nav station
above the port side galley. Any advice?

I am fitting my nav instruments on a swinging peice of teak that will be
able to swing into the companionway while underway. How are your
instruments fit? Do you have an outboard, or one of Coronado's old
saildrive motors. What is your maximum speed underway with motor only?

So many questions, so little space.

Sailing Dave - The Storm and The Spray

"Sailing Dave" wrote in message rver.com...
Good idea withn the locker door.

Your website says that you can access salt water from the galley sink. How
did you plumb that, or is one of your tanks filled with salt water and, if
so, why?

I put in a 3/4 inch thru-hull in the bottom of the sink locker and have
one of those Whale Galley gusher foot pumps to a spigot near the hand
pump. The foot pump actuator arm is under the bottom companion step.


Did you replace the head?

No, it still has the original head which I rarely use preferring the
cedar bucket method.


Did you replace the settee tank itself?

No, it is GPR and part of the settee structure.


How is your bulkhead fixed to the fiberglass? Is it simply constructed of
marine plywood, or did you glass over the whole thing?

It is marine ply with glossy color-matched formica glued on with rubber cement.
Edges sealed with 5200 against moisture intrusion and rot. Bulkhead glued
in place with 5200 and no mechanical fasteners.

I am planning to do away with the dinette entirely, as I do not really use
it anyway and the lack of floor space under the portside seat is maddening.
I am planning to make a sofa pit out of that side with a conversion kit to
turn the entire space into a bed (for me and wife and the kids up in the
berth) Any experience with this arrangement?

That's how it used to work when the dinette table was lowered onto the
settees. This would be easy to do by just lowering the table into the grooves
in the settees and making some comfy cushions.

Have you covered the glass ceiling and walls with any sort of fabric at all?


Only on what is usually called the ceiling (sides) and I glued carpet there
to minimize sweating as it is not cored in the sides as it is on the overhead.

BTW, you have a fine looking vessel. have you sailed it far? I have done
Duluth to Quebec in two years. I plan a complete tour of the Great Lakes
this summer and a Trans-A the following summer Cleveland to Cleveland,
England.

Yes, we both have fine vessels and they are very seaworthy. I have sailed
mine thousands of miles and have lived aboard for over fifteen years now.
Haven't done a crossing with her yet but may get a wild hair up my arse
one of these days and do so. Coronado 27s are pretty stout.


CN

I've been in some very large seas in the Gulf Stream in several occasions.

Fifteen feet for sure. There have been times when in the tough I could not
see a very large ship a half mile or so off. Had blue water slop into the cockpit
from time to time. Never had a control problem as I have a variety of sails and
use them properly for the wind conditions. Unlike most of the wimps around
here, I am not afraid to go forward to change a headsail when necessary no
matter the conditions. Never had any water in the interior. I keep the bottom
washboard in the companionway when offshore and it goes halfway up the
opening. It is gasketed and watertight even if the cockpit should fill which
it never has.

She used to pound somewhat -hull flexing and hitting interior accommodation
component. Since I poured flotation foam between the hull and liner from
bow to companionway she has become quiet even when pounding into a steep
chop and any oil-canning has been eliminated. She's like a Boston Whaler now.

CN


"Sailing Dave" wrote in message rver.com...
What sort of weather have you weathered with the Mustard? largest seas I have seen was 14 footers on Erie and 45 knot winds. The
boat didn't mind as much as I did. I truly didn't think we were coming back. The engine was a joke and the waves pounded us
without mercy. Took on water to the top of the settee seats. BAD TIME.
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ...
Sorry I did not answer your post the first time, Dave.

I thought you were a Bertie the Bunyip sock puppet.

Have you visited my website?

There are lots of pictures there that might help you with your
conversions.
http://captneal.homestead.com/index.html

Just follow the links to the interior where you will see all the modifications
I have made.
I raised the dinette and put a fill in the water tank on the side of the
raised area. I also put another 18-gallon water tank under the center
of the cockpit between the two large stringers.
I used hand pumps for water both in the head and the galley and have
put tubing with a tee and a valve so I can draw water from either tank
from either sink. I put a cockpit fill (little perfections page) in for
the under cockpit tank but still have to fill the settee tank from inside
the vessel though it is on the side of the settee now so I don't have
to move the cushion. I also got rid of the old, rotten wooden top for
the tank and replaced it with plastic - Star Board.


I got rid of the door to the head and reversed the hanging locker door
so it would open against the mast post. It gives a bit of privacy for the
head this way

The swinging instrument board works well. I now have an outside depth sounder
which makes the use of the board optional.

I use a 9.9 Honda Four which powers the boat to hull speed at about
half throttle in mild conditions. It gets great gas mileage and is very
quiet. It is on the transom in the factory cut-out.

Feel free to ask more questions here as there are many more
people here who could profit from discussing boats for once.

CN


"Sailing Dave" wrote in message rver.com...
As I understand it from this newsgroup, you have an identical coronado to mine, except, I think you have a shoal keel and I do
not. Apart from this difference, I believe they are more or less identical, though i suspectthat you have updated your interior
as your's is a live aboard vessel. I am currently in the middle of a refit and would appreciate your advice.

My first concern is the actual eorking infrastructure, I need to replace or repair the water tank and the water fixtures. Is
your tank (or was it originally) only fillable from inside the boat under the aft seat? if so, did you refit this item? Did
you replace your water fixtures in the head and galley? if so, how did you pulmb them? Did you fit a sea-water pump, if so,
how is it plumbed to the outside?

I am getting rid of the door on the head and building a nav station above the port side galley. Any advice?

I am fitting my nav instruments on a swinging peice of teak that will be able to swing into the companionway while underway.
How are your instruments fit? Do you have an outboard, or one of Coronado's old saildrive motors. What is your maximum speed
underway with motor only?

So many questions, so little space.

Sailing Dave - The Storm and The Spray

Neal is certainly the right person to ask about this. While he's generally a
**** person, he knows a heck of a lot about his Coronado.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Sailing Dave" wrote in message
rver.com...
As I understand it from this newsgroup, you have an identical coronado to
mine, except, I think you have a shoal keel and I do not. Apart from this
difference, I believe they are more or less identical, though i
suspectthat you have updated your interior as your's is a live aboard
vessel. I am currently in the middle of a refit and would appreciate your
advice.

My first concern is the actual eorking infrastructure, I need to replace
or repair the water tank and the water fixtures. Is your tank (or was it
originally) only fillable from inside the boat under the aft seat? if so,
did you refit this item? Did you replace your water fixtures in the head
and galley? if so, how did you pulmb them? Did you fit a sea-water pump,
if so, how is it plumbed to the outside?

I am getting rid of the door on the head and building a nav station above
the port side galley. Any advice?

I am fitting my nav instruments on a swinging peice of teak that will be
able to swing into the companionway while underway. How are your
instruments fit? Do you have an outboard, or one of Coronado's old
saildrive motors. What is your maximum speed underway with motor only?

So many questions, so little space.

Sailing Dave - The Storm and The Spray

"Sailing Dave" wrote in message
I plan a complete tour of the Great Lakes this summer and a Trans-A the
following summer Cleveland to Cleveland, England.

A Trans Atlantic in a Coronado 27??????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Good Luck!

CM

"Sailing Dave" wrote in message
rver.com...
What sort of weather have you weathered with the Mustard? largest seas I
have seen was 14 footers on Erie and 45 knot winds. The boat didn't mind
as much as I did. I truly didn't think we were coming back. The engine
was a joke and the waves pounded us without mercy. Took on water to the
top of the settee seats. BAD TIME.

If that's all it took... I'd seriously reconsider the Atlantic Crossing!!

CM

No Kiddin, Thats what I was thinking...Up to the settee eh gawd.

Joe

Wait till the mid Atlantic when the 45 footers, 60 knot winds and breaking
seas show up....

CM

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
No Kiddin, Thats what I was thinking...Up to the settee eh gawd.

Joe

Gaynz is suckin' up to Capt. Neal!!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Neal is certainly the right person to ask about this. While he's generally
a **** person, he knows a heck of a lot about his Coronado.

Calling me a '**** person' is sucking up?

CN


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:4HqSd.19657$NN.6228@edtnps89...
Gaynz is suckin' up to Capt. Neal!!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Neal is certainly the right person to ask about this. While he's generally
a **** person, he knows a heck of a lot about his Coronado.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:voqSd.19561$NN.9061@edtnps89...

"Sailing Dave" wrote in message
rver.com...
What sort of weather have you weathered with the Mustard? largest seas I
have seen was 14 footers on Erie and 45 knot winds. The boat didn't mind
as much as I did. I truly didn't think we were coming back. The engine
was a joke and the waves pounded us without mercy. Took on water to the
top of the settee seats. BAD TIME.

If that's all it took... I'd seriously reconsider the Atlantic Crossing!!

CM


I can't figure out why water got into the accommodation at all.
He must have lots of leaks around the hatches and windows.

My boat always stays bone dry - even in the lashing wind and
waves of hurricanes and tropical storms.

I'd rather sail CTM across the Atlantic than your Nordica which
has no positive flotation and will sink like a rock if holed by a
shipping container or other flotsam or jetsam.

CN

Coronado 27s are bluewater capable and, if the captain knows
his stuff, they can easily circumnavigate.

My boat is ready for a circumnavigation and I'm thinking about
doing it and beating little Ellen's record. Of course, I demand
a handicap based on hull speed in order to make it fair.

CN


"Capt. Mooron" babbled thusly:

A Trans Atlantic in a Coronado 27??????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

I'd rather sail CTM across the Atlantic than your Nordica which
has no positive flotation and will sink like a rock if holed by a
shipping container or other flotsam or jetsam.

If you wanted to make the trip all the way.. you'd need to take my
boat... because your coastal cruiser is unfit for offshore work. In other
words you are pinned to coastal or near coastal areas due to the fact your
vessel would not survive an ocean crossing.

Let's face it... you speak of 5 foot waves as if that was rough and point to
15 ft waves as a major encounter. That's a coastal sailor for you... with
neither the skill set nor vessel to tackle big water.

CM

Is this something that you have experience with? I guess calling him a ****
person is your idea of sucking up! Bwaahahahahhaaa...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:4HqSd.19657$NN.6228@edtnps89...
Gaynz is suckin' up to Capt. Neal!!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Neal is certainly the right person to ask about this. While he's
generally a **** person, he knows a heck of a lot about his Coronado.

And, just to make it clear... You're much more of a **** than Neal.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:4HqSd.19657$NN.6228@edtnps89...
Gaynz is suckin' up to Capt. Neal!!

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Neal is certainly the right person to ask about this. While he's
generally a **** person, he knows a heck of a lot about his Coronado.

"JG" wrote in message
...
And, just to make it clear... You're much more of a **** than Neal.

Figures... I much more of a man than Neal... faster, stronger, more
intelligent and way-y-y-y better looking!!!

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Coronado 27s are bluewater capable and, if the captain knows
his stuff, they can easily circumnavigate.

Contrary to popular belief, there are very few boats incapable of
circumnavigation/bluewater use. The obvious limitations are 1) the margin
of safety one is willing to accept, 2) the ability of the boat to carry the
stores necessary to sustain the lives of its occupants, 3) the comfort
factor (how adverse are you to being beaten up by a tiny boat in big waves?)
and 4) the ability to self-rescue (either with a non-sinking boat, or a life
raft if the boat has the space to carry one). Just about any old POS boat
can cross oceans. It's the sailors, themselves, who possess the greatest
limitations.


My boat is ready for a circumnavigation and I'm thinking about
doing it and beating little Ellen's record. Of course, I demand
a handicap based on hull speed in order to make it fair.

Foolish, dear Captain. Why waste a substantial portion of your life
attempting to best someone's insignificant record, when you could be
spending that time smelling the roses along the way? Hell, I could spend a
couple of months in the San Blas Is. alone, but you'll be forced to move on
from every port, despite the beauty, the interest, the people you meet.
Foolish to pursue such a meaningless goal.

Max

"Sailing Dave" wrote in message

What sort of weather have you weathered with the Mustard? largest seas I
have seen was 14 footers on Erie and 45 knot winds. The boat didn't mind
as much as I did. I truly didn't think we were coming back. The engine
was a joke and the waves pounded us without mercy. Took on water to the
top of the settee seats. BAD TIME.

Um, you're thinking of taking this same boat offshore?

Max

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message


I can't figure out why water got into the accommodation at all.
He must have lots of leaks around the hatches and windows.

He probably left the companionway boards out. That boat doesn't have a
bridge deck to speak of, does it?

Max

A twice as stupid. Don't forget the most obvious.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"JG" wrote in message
...
And, just to make it clear... You're much more of a **** than Neal.

Figures... I much more of a man than Neal... faster, stronger, more
intelligent and way-y-y-y better looking!!!

CM

Bye! Arivederci! Ciao! Don't take long leaving!

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Coronado 27s are bluewater capable and, if the captain knows
his stuff, they can easily circumnavigate.
My boat is ready for a circumnavigation and I'm thinking about
doing it and beating little Ellen's record. Of course, I demand
a handicap based on hull speed in order to make it fair.

CN


"Capt. Mooron" babbled thusly:

A Trans Atlantic in a Coronado 27??????

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

We had our 27'O'Day in those kind of conditions and never took on any
water....he must have been really broaching...

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
No Kiddin, Thats what I was thinking...Up to the settee eh gawd.

Joe

There is no bridge deck. That is why I leave the bottom wash board in (there are only
two washboards) which goes halfway up the companionway. The board has a gasket and
dead bolts to secure it tightly against the gasket so it cannot come up or out nor does it
leak.

The cockpit could fill up to the top and overflow out the back where the cut-out for the outboard engine is and water still would
not overflow into the accommodation.

We don't need no stinkin' bridge deck.

CN


"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net...

He probably left the companionway boards out. That boat doesn't have a bridge deck to speak of, does it?

Max

I'm smart enough to not sail during hurricane season out in the Atlantic.
And, I'm also smart enough not to sail during the winter gale season.

Only a fool would plan a crossing when the conditions you mentioned
were likely. Duh!

CN


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:9GqSd.19652$NN.15054@edtnps89...
Wait till the mid Atlantic when the 45 footers, 60 knot winds and breaking
seas show up....

CM

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
No Kiddin, Thats what I was thinking...Up to the settee eh gawd.

Joe

I doubt you could stay drunk enough to have the balls to make a
crossing. Let's plan a trip together. We could have a race where
I could leave your slow boat foundering in my wake.

CN

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:voqSd.19561

If that's all it took... I'd seriously reconsider the Atlantic Crossing!!

CM

Crapton,

I do think your Hong Kong Sails on that flexible Boom should just about
let you name your handicap. Fact is, it should put you in a Class all
your own:^)

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

There is no bridge deck. That is why I leave the bottom wash board in
(there are only
two washboards) which goes halfway up the companionway. The board has a
gasket and
dead bolts to secure it tightly against the gasket so it cannot come up or
out nor does it
leak.

The cockpit could fill up to the top and overflow out the back where the
cut-out for the outboard engine is and water still would not overflow into
the accommodation.

We don't need no stinkin' bridge deck.

Nope. You've handled the situation properly. Sailor Dave would be
well-advised to do so as well.

Max

Too bad you sold a real sailboat and bought French fluff instead.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message ...
We had our 27'O'Day in those kind of conditions and never took on any
water....he must have been really broaching...

"Capt. Mooron" blathered thusly:

Figures... I much more of a man than Neal... faster, stronger, more
intelligent and way-y-y-y better looking!!!


And way-y-y-y happier living ashore.

CN

The French "fluff" is a much better boat...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

Too bad you sold a real sailboat and bought French fluff instead.

CN

"katysails" wrote in message
...
We had our 27'O'Day in those kind of conditions and never took on any
water....he must have been really broaching...

"Crap'n Neal®" wrote
Coronado 27s are bluewater capable and, if the captain knows
his stuff, they can easily circumnavigate.


So why haven't you?
Other than the obvious, I mean....

Maxprop wrote:
Contrary to popular belief, there are very few boats incapable of
circumnavigation/bluewater use. The obvious limitations are 1) the margin
of safety one is willing to accept, 2) the ability of the boat to carry the
stores necessary to sustain the lives of its occupants, 3) the comfort
factor (how adverse are you to being beaten up by a tiny boat in big waves?)
and 4) the ability to self-rescue (either with a non-sinking boat, or a life
raft if the boat has the space to carry one). Just about any old POS boat
can cross oceans. It's the sailors, themselves, who possess the greatest
limitations.


Well said. Absolutely agree with 1 & 2 especially.


"Crap'n Neal®" wrote
My boat is ready for a circumnavigation and I'm thinking about
doing it and beating little Ellen's record.

Yeah, that'll happen... right after a green monkey flies out of your butt

... Of course, I demand
a handicap based on hull speed in order to make it fair.


Of course you need a handicap. After all, life itself has treated you
most unfairly and so you acknowledge that you can't compete on a level
playing field. However IMHo you should ask for a handicap based on
ability & seamanship as well. If granted a slight additional handicap
for intellect, you could win this one without leaving your engine block
mooring...



Foolish, dear Captain. Why waste a substantial portion of your life

or his life, period...

attempting to best someone's insignificant record, when you could be
spending that time smelling the roses along the way?

I think the Crapton is more likely to spend his time fertilizing the roses.

... Hell, I could spend a
couple of months in the San Blas Is. alone, but you'll be forced to move on
from every port, despite the beauty, the interest, the people you meet.
Foolish to pursue such a meaningless goal.


Agreed again. But keep in mind that Ellen didn't stop in any ports along
the way.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"DSK" wrote in message

Agreed again. But keep in mind that Ellen didn't stop in any ports along
the way.

Yes. Her vessel was able to accommodate her needs in terms of stores, water
(-maker), etc. The Coronado 27 couldn't carry enough water and food to make
it to the Dry Tortugas from Cappy's mooring.

Max

Agreed again. But keep in mind that Ellen didn't stop in any ports along
the way.


Maxprop wrote:
Yes. Her vessel was able to accommodate her needs in terms of stores, water
(-maker), etc. The Coronado 27 couldn't carry enough water and food to make
it to the Dry Tortugas from Cappy's mooring.


Ah so, now I see your point. Possibly the C-27 could carry enough food &
water, but it certainly couldn't carry enough kitty litter & Lysol.

DSK

I vote for his next trip to be to the Dry Tortugas....

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"DSK" wrote in message

Agreed again. But keep in mind that Ellen didn't stop in any ports along
the way.

Yes. Her vessel was able to accommodate her needs in terms of stores,
water (-maker), etc. The Coronado 27 couldn't carry enough water and food
to make it to the Dry Tortugas from Cappy's mooring.

Max

katysails wrote:
I vote for his next trip to be to the Dry Tortugas....


He has to take a first trip for there be a "next" one!

DSK