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Joe February 21st 05 04:05 PM

Powerboats Suck
 
Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm

Joe


Capt. Neal® February 21st 05 04:13 PM



You and DSK.


"Joe" wrote in message ups.com...
Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm

Joe


Remco Moedt February 21st 05 04:31 PM

On 21 Feb 2005 08:05:32 -0800, "Joe" wrote:

Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm


Heh.

They were testing that thing on the Haringvliet, some water I pass
every day from/to work. The goal was to break the speed record. Too
bad one of the engines leaked oil, so they had to cancel the
attempt...

Cheers!

Remco


Joe February 21st 05 06:10 PM


Capt. Neal=AE wrote:
You and DSK.


HEY watch yer mouth. I said I love to have it, not dumb enough to buy
it or any trawler. Only an all around, all weather, steady reliable
vessel suits my needs. That is why a Motor Sailing Vessel is far
superior to all others, including your blue water vessel.

Joe






"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...
Well most do...But Id love to have this one.
=20
http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm
=20
Joe



JG February 21st 05 07:04 PM

I agree, but the only power boats I like are tugs. I like them because
they're working boats. Ones like this would be fine for the time it takes to
resell it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm

Joe




Capt. Neal® February 22nd 05 11:08 PM


Motorsail vessels are a combination that brings out the worst of
both motor and sail. Either get a pure sailing vessel like Cut the
Mustard or get a trawler. Any sailboat with a big diesel and a
fixed, three-blade prop is a slowcoach and a poor compromise.

That being said, once one admits his motorsailer is not a real
sailboat one can then take advantage of the virtues of a motor
boat and suffer the degradation to a real sailboat such virtues
cause.

CN

"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...

Capt. Neal® wrote:
You and DSK.


HEY watch yer mouth. I said I love to have it, not dumb enough to buy
it or any trawler. Only an all around, all weather, steady reliable
vessel suits my needs. That is why a Motor Sailing Vessel is far
superior to all others, including your blue water vessel.

Joe






"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...
Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm

Joe



Bart Senior February 23rd 05 01:50 AM

Suck fuel, that is. About 150 gallons an hour.

"Joe" wrote

Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm




Lonny Bruce February 23rd 05 09:22 AM

I have to disagree with you slightly. Powerboats don't suck. But sometimes
powerboaters suck. They figure if they have a drivers license, then they
know how to operate a boat. On average a sailboater knows more about boat
handling and seamanship than the average powerboater.

My favorite cruising ground can best be accessed by powerboat. Although I
have cruised it with a sailboat (Catalina 320) I have charted large
powerboats the past two times. I like powerboats, too. The size and
comfort are nice. The noise while underway is annoying.

Lonny

--
Enjoy my new sailing web site
http://sail247.com


"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm

Joe




Capt. Neal® February 23rd 05 02:04 PM


"Lonny Bruce" wrote in message news:xXXSd.44082$uc.25074@trnddc03...

My favorite cruising ground can best be accessed by powerboat.


Walden's pond?

CN

Lonny Bruce February 23rd 05 02:18 PM

Actually I like the west coast of Florida. When their aren't any hurricanes
ripping through, of course.

L

--
Enjoy my new sailing web site
http://sail247.com


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

Motorsail vessels are a combination that brings out the worst of
both motor and sail. Either get a pure sailing vessel like Cut the
Mustard or get a trawler. Any sailboat with a big diesel and a
fixed, three-blade prop is a slowcoach and a poor compromise.

That being said, once one admits his motorsailer is not a real
sailboat one can then take advantage of the virtues of a motor
boat and suffer the degradation to a real sailboat such virtues
cause.

CN

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. Neal® wrote:
You and DSK.


HEY watch yer mouth. I said I love to have it, not dumb enough to buy
it or any trawler. Only an all around, all weather, steady reliable
vessel suits my needs. That is why a Motor Sailing Vessel is far
superior to all others, including your blue water vessel.

Joe






"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...
Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm

Joe





Capt. Neal® February 23rd 05 05:03 PM



Priorities, priorities! A vessel without a shower that sails well is
preferable to a vessel with a shower that sails poorly but motors
well while making hot water.

CN


"Remco Moedt" wrote in message ...
On 21 Feb 2005 08:05:32 -0800, "Joe" wrote:

Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm


Heh.

They were testing that thing on the Haringvliet, some water I pass
every day from/to work. The goal was to break the speed record. Too
bad one of the engines leaked oil, so they had to cancel the
attempt...

Cheers!

Remco


Joe February 23rd 05 05:12 PM

Well Bart 150 gallons an hour @70 knot for a 140+ft vessel is actually
very good.
A standard quad screw 140 foot crewboat burns 140 gallons an hour @
20kts

Joe


Scott Vernon February 24th 05 01:18 PM

FUGLY !

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm

Joe




Scott Vernon February 24th 05 01:21 PM

My boat sails well, has a shower with hot pressure water.

Scotty

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...


Priorities, priorities! A vessel without a shower that sails well is
preferable to a vessel with a shower that sails poorly but motors
well while making hot water.

CN


"Remco Moedt" wrote in message

...
On 21 Feb 2005 08:05:32 -0800, "Joe"

wrote:

Well most do...But Id love to have this one.

http://www.peterkehoe.com/The_World.htm


Heh.

They were testing that thing on the Haringvliet, some water I pass
every day from/to work. The goal was to break the speed record.

Too
bad one of the engines leaked oil, so they had to cancel the
attempt...

Cheers!

Remco




Joe February 24th 05 03:47 PM

Yeah the Super Structure looks to your a peein to me.
Yet I like the 1" thick windshield and take a look at the main engine
photo. I think that engine was developed for heavy lift helo's. I'd
like to get a boat load of rich snobbish yacht club lubbers brats on
board and take it out in the gulf in 12-15 foot seas. I could kill em
all bounching them off the overheads and bulkheads. The whole boats
interior would self destruct at 70 knots flying wave crest to wave
crest. That would be a BLAST!

Joe


Joe February 24th 05 05:27 PM

Why do you think it brings out the worst in both motor and sail?

I believe it brings out the best of both.

Nothing wrong with a rock steady 8kt on any point of the compass. Most
times the main is just above idle and you can not hear. If the wind is
above 15 knots than I can make hull speed without main assist.

I know the alure of pure sail and the benifits of no prop drag. But
due to my current career and the high cost off communications I do not
have the luxary of unscheduled trips.


Lady Pilot March 1st 05 03:35 AM


"Scott Vernon" wrote:
My boat sails well, has a shower with hot pressure water.


Nice boat! hehee

Maybe I will take you up on sailing this summer...

LP



Capt. Neal® March 1st 05 05:12 AM

Sailing a Siedelmann after sailing a Coronado would be like
flying a Piper Cub after flying a P51 Mustang.

CN


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:sqRUd.16655$ds.6448@okepread07...

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
My boat sails well, has a shower with hot pressure water.


Nice boat! hehee

Maybe I will take you up on sailing this summer...

LP



Scott Vernon March 1st 05 11:48 AM


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:sqRUd.16655$ds.6448@okepread07...

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
My boat sails well, has a shower with hot pressure water.


Nice boat! hehee

Maybe I will take you up on sailing this summer...



Sure thing.



Scott Vernon March 1st 05 11:48 AM

What's wrong with a Piper Cub?


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Sailing a Siedelmann after sailing a Coronado would be like
flying a Piper Cub after flying a P51 Mustang.

CN


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message

news:sqRUd.16655$ds.6448@okepread07...

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
My boat sails well, has a shower with hot pressure water.


Nice boat! hehee

Maybe I will take you up on sailing this summer...

LP





gonefishiing March 1st 05 01:24 PM

just reminded me of something from the recent past.
if you want to have flying fun
try a beachcraft baron.
http://sales.securityaviation.net/68Baron.html

gf.



Lady Pilot March 2nd 05 03:39 AM


"Capt. Neal®" wrote:
Sailing a Siedelmann after sailing a Coronado would be like
flying a Piper Cub after flying a P51 Mustang.
CN


So what's your point? I went from soaring at 260 kph to 5 kph in your
vessel. So what if it's a bit slower, I'll have time to take a shower
before we arrive. lol

LP

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:sqRUd.16655$ds.6448@okepread07...

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
My boat sails well, has a shower with hot pressure water.


Nice boat! hehee

Maybe I will take you up on sailing this summer...

LP




Lady Pilot March 2nd 05 03:40 AM


"Scott Vernon" wrote:
What's wrong with a Piper Cub?


Nothing wrong at all, they are great airplanes.

Just don't get in a hurry, because if you get in a headwind at their crusing
speed, it's like standing still.

LP (inside joke with the Capt.)



Lady Pilot March 2nd 05 03:41 AM


"gonefishiing" wrote:
just reminded me of something from the recent past.
if you want to have flying fun
try a beachcraft baron.


Nice airplane, my friends in Tulsa used to have one, until the IRS made them
sell it to pay their taxes.

LP



Lady Pilot March 2nd 05 03:42 AM


"Scott Vernon" wrote:

"Lady Pilot" wrote:

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
My boat sails well, has a shower with hot pressure water.


Nice boat! hehee

Maybe I will take you up on sailing this summer...



Sure thing.


Cool. Will Seahag be joining us?

How far is it to Nova Scotia from your house or sailboat? :-)

LP



gonefishiing March 2nd 05 07:09 AM

yes a nice airplane
small.......fast

a friend used to own one and we would fly up and down the hudson river
within VFR, well below the top of the WTC (sometimes below the top of the
palisades)
doubt that's possible anymore.

gf.


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:LBaVd.87$Ru.31@okepread06...
Nice airplane, my friends in Tulsa used to have one, until the IRS made
them sell it to pay their taxes.

LP




Scott Vernon March 2nd 05 03:32 PM


"Lady Pilot" wrote

Maybe I will take you up on sailing this summer...



Sure thing.


Cool. Will Seahag be joining us?


Sure, I love a good cat fight.


How far is it to Nova Scotia from your house or sailboat? :-)


Too far, and too cold.

Scotty




katysails March 3rd 05 02:48 AM

Whoa...Haggie and LP on the same boat....you really have a death wish for
LP?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Lady Pilot" wrote

Maybe I will take you up on sailing this summer...


Sure thing.


Cool. Will Seahag be joining us?


Sure, I love a good cat fight.


How far is it to Nova Scotia from your house or sailboat? :-)


Too far, and too cold.

Scotty






Lady Pilot March 9th 05 03:14 AM


"gonefishiing" wrote:
yes a nice airplane
small.......fast

a friend used to own one and we would fly up and down the hudson river
within VFR, well below the top of the WTC (sometimes below the top of the
palisades)
doubt that's possible anymore.


Not anymore, unless you were someone that could get some kind of special
clearance.

I remember not long after 9-11, a pilot asked permission to circle the
statue of liberty with some military personnel coming back from Iraq. I'm
not sure what the altitude, but not exceptionally low and he was granted
permission. The 9-11 lines became jammed and thought NYC was under another
attack. I can't believe the idiots in NYC are such scaredy cats.

LP



Lady Pilot March 9th 05 03:16 AM


OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 06:48:42 -0500, "Scott Vernon" scribbled thusly:

What's wrong with a Piper Cub?


Hey, they're great....if it isn't windy.
Sorta like a coronado....


Faster than walking on water! :-P

LP



Lady Pilot March 9th 05 03:19 AM


"Scott Vernon" wrote:

"Lady Pilot" wrote

Maybe I will take you up on sailing this summer...


Sure thing.


Cool. Will Seahag be joining us?


Sure, I love a good cat fight.


Gee, I'm disappointed. I thought Seahag was a nice person. She's never
been known to post unkind, rude lies about other people since I've been
here.

Maybe I'll take a rain check.

How far is it to Nova Scotia from your house or sailboat? :-)


Too far, and too cold.


I didn't mean right now or in you Siedelemann. I meant how many miles or
knots.

LP



Jonathan Ganz March 9th 05 04:31 AM

But, we can certainly understand you being such an unfeeling bitch.

In article nStXd.5167$Ru.2409@okepread06,
Lady Pilot wrote:

"gonefishiing" wrote:
yes a nice airplane
small.......fast

a friend used to own one and we would fly up and down the hudson river
within VFR, well below the top of the WTC (sometimes below the top of the
palisades)
doubt that's possible anymore.


Not anymore, unless you were someone that could get some kind of special
clearance.

I remember not long after 9-11, a pilot asked permission to circle the
statue of liberty with some military personnel coming back from Iraq. I'm
not sure what the altitude, but not exceptionally low and he was granted
permission. The 9-11 lines became jammed and thought NYC was under another
attack. I can't believe the idiots in NYC are such scaredy cats.

LP




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz March 9th 05 04:32 AM

Unlike you. I agree.

In article _WtXd.5169$Ru.1862@okepread06,
Lady Pilot wrote:
Gee, I'm disappointed. I thought Seahag was a nice person. She's never
been known to post unkind, rude lies about other people since I've been
here.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


gonefishiing March 9th 05 05:02 AM

ganz,
you've been up'd by LP!
gf.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
But, we can certainly understand you being such an unfeeling bitch.

In article nStXd.5167$Ru.2409@okepread06,
Lady Pilot wrote:

"gonefishiing" wrote:
yes a nice airplane
small.......fast

a friend used to own one and we would fly up and down the hudson river
within VFR, well below the top of the WTC (sometimes below the top of
the
palisades)
doubt that's possible anymore.


Not anymore, unless you were someone that could get some kind of special
clearance.

I remember not long after 9-11, a pilot asked permission to circle the
statue of liberty with some military personnel coming back from Iraq. I'm
not sure what the altitude, but not exceptionally low and he was granted
permission. The 9-11 lines became jammed and thought NYC was under
another
attack. I can't believe the idiots in NYC are such scaredy cats.

LP




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."




Lady Pilot March 9th 05 05:58 AM

Why, Ganz? I've let katy bash my son's several times without smacking her
around or even responding to her evil BS. Then I make a suggestion to her
about the safety of her grand daughters and now *I'm* an unfeeling bitch?
Got it!

LP

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
But, we can certainly understand you being such an unfeeling bitch.

In article nStXd.5167$Ru.2409@okepread06,
Lady Pilot wrote:

"gonefishiing" wrote:
yes a nice airplane
small.......fast

a friend used to own one and we would fly up and down the hudson river
within VFR, well below the top of the WTC (sometimes below the top of
the
palisades)
doubt that's possible anymore.


Not anymore, unless you were someone that could get some kind of special
clearance.

I remember not long after 9-11, a pilot asked permission to circle the
statue of liberty with some military personnel coming back from Iraq. I'm
not sure what the altitude, but not exceptionally low and he was granted
permission. The 9-11 lines became jammed and thought NYC was under
another
attack. I can't believe the idiots in NYC are such scaredy cats.

LP




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."




Jonathan Ganz March 10th 05 05:48 AM

In article , gonefishiing wrote:
ganz,
you've been up'd by LP!
gf.


You and LP have a lot of bitch in common.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz March 10th 05 05:50 AM

In article IgwXd.5579$Ru.490@okepread06,
Lady Pilot wrote:
Why, Ganz? I've let katy bash my son's several times without smacking her
around or even responding to her evil BS. Then I make a suggestion to her
about the safety of her grand daughters and now *I'm* an unfeeling bitch?
Got it!

LP

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote:
But, we can certainly understand you being such an unfeeling bitch.


Nevertheless, you're nothing but a lesbo bitch. And, that gives
lesbians a bad name.

SHOW US YOUR TITS.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."



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