Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

It should be doable... use the backfill technique if you have an outboard.

If you have an inboard, you can still do it, but it'll require more
shuttling back and forth.

I'd suggest practicing it say between mooring balls before trying it at the
dock. Make sure you're fenders are out, have plenty of hands on deck to help
the first couple of times, and don't get going more than enough to maintain
headway. Remember which way the boat turns better, both forward and reverse
(prop walk), and use this to your advantage.

Of course, backing up 90 feet shouldn't be a big deal either.. that's just 3
boat lengths, and you'll get a lot of practical experience with prop walk,
which will help you when you finally get sick of backing up. g

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"coldcorona" wrote in message
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Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

Assuming an inboard with a right hand prop, you could accomplish this in a
number of ways.
1.With help from a "fwd, after spring" and some creative line handling.
2.By "springing" out then backing off and doing a pivot turn (made harder by
the fact you will be bringing the bow through the wind).
3. Just back her up the 90 feet into the wind ( most boats like to back into
the wind which simplifies control when backing into it.)

otn


"coldcorona" wrote in message
oups.com...
Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

backing up.........i don't think you want to back up if the gaynz one is
around.
gf.

Why don't you tell us again about your "relationship" with your daughter?
Apparently, it isn't the normal kind of parent/daughter one.

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www.sailnow.com

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
news
backing up.........i don't think you want to back up if the gaynz one is
around.
gf.

"gonefishiing" wrote in message news
backing up.........i don't think you want to back up if the gaynz one is
around.
gf.


Gaynz is confused. When he read the header he was thinking
pivot turn and circle jerk were one and the same. . .

CN

Inboard, outboard? Wheel, tiller? Singlehanded, crew? Is the wind
*ALWAYS* from the same direction? Floating docks?

Practice backing out in the open. Learn to use your prop walk. Watch
other boats and see what they do.

SV



"coldcorona" wrote in message
oups.com...
Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side
is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when
leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

I don't know Scotty..... this "coldcorona"..... smells fishy to me. :-)

Sailboats belong on a mooring!!

Anyway... anybody who rents a slip in an area they can't access easily is
just plain stupid.

I can turn my Crab Crusher on a dime and it hates to back up.... fin keelers
would have no problem in that situation

CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Inboard, outboard? Wheel, tiller? Singlehanded, crew? Is the wind
*ALWAYS* from the same direction? Floating docks?

Practice backing out in the open. Learn to use your prop walk. Watch
other boats and see what they do.

SV



"coldcorona" wrote in message
oups.com...
Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port side
is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when
leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

Sounds like a newbie to me. ''wind is at the stern''? good grief!

Scotty



"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
newsBlQd.43974$K54.1127@edtnps84...
I don't know Scotty..... this "coldcorona"..... smells fishy to me.
:-)

Sailboats belong on a mooring!!

Anyway... anybody who rents a slip in an area they can't access
easily is
just plain stupid.

I can turn my Crab Crusher on a dime and it hates to back up.... fin
keelers
would have no problem in that situation

CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Inboard, outboard? Wheel, tiller? Singlehanded, crew? Is the
wind
*ALWAYS* from the same direction? Floating docks?

Practice backing out in the open. Learn to use your prop walk.
Watch
other boats and see what they do.

SV



"coldcorona" wrote in message
oups.com...
Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port
side
is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think
there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when
leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.

It's the situation....no place to go forward (unless you really want to take
out the dock...) The situation we were in was with the wind at the stern at
about 30 knots....without a line back to the dock to pivot the stern as soon
as you were abeam you'd just get blown right back...if you throttled up you
got too ,much forward motion and you'd end up pinned to the backend of the
fingerslips and everyone else's boats....
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Sounds like a newbie to me. ''wind is at the stern''? good grief!

Scotty



"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
newsBlQd.43974$K54.1127@edtnps84...
I don't know Scotty..... this "coldcorona"..... smells fishy to me.
:-)

Sailboats belong on a mooring!!

Anyway... anybody who rents a slip in an area they can't access
easily is
just plain stupid.

I can turn my Crab Crusher on a dime and it hates to back up.... fin
keelers
would have no problem in that situation

CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Inboard, outboard? Wheel, tiller? Singlehanded, crew? Is the
wind
*ALWAYS* from the same direction? Floating docks?

Practice backing out in the open. Learn to use your prop walk.
Watch
other boats and see what they do.

SV



"coldcorona" wrote in message
oups.com...
Question about a pivot turn, is it possible to turn around a 29'
sailboat in a 40' wide area?
The only space available at a nearby marina are side ties and I'm
worried about whether I can actually dock there.
Before starting the turn the wind is at the stern. On the port
side
is
the marina wall and on the other is the dock. I don't think
there's
much if any current affecting the slip.

The other option is docking with the stern to the wind and when
leaving
backing up for 90 feet.
There are boats in front and behind this slip.

Thanks.