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O. Spreitzer February 5th 05 04:07 PM

look at this site
 
http://www.segelcenter.org

Capt. Mooron February 5th 05 04:38 PM

Stupid Site..... you're a SPAMMER!!


"O. Spreitzer" wrote in message
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http://www.segelcenter.org




Capt. Neal® February 5th 05 04:42 PM


Bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahh!

You're not too bright, Mooron. You should have gotten a clue
from the headers. Backoffice (as in backorifice). It wouldn't
surprise me if you got a nasty little worm to contend with now.


CN

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:9E6Nd.9587$tU6.3689@edtnps91...
Stupid Site..... you're a SPAMMER!!


"O. Spreitzer" wrote in message
y.telekom.at...
http://www.segelcenter.org




Capt. Mooron February 5th 05 07:08 PM

Nah Cappy....I don't get worms or trojans... and I've never had a virus on
any of my computers. The way security is set up I have to approve anything
going out or coming in.
Plus the important **** is stored on disconnected pony drives and my raid
system allows me to hot swap drives.... I've got a complete mirror of my
system on an alternate HD.

backdoor is so old it needs a walker to get around.

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

Bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahh!
You're not too bright, Mooron. You should have gotten a clue
from the headers. Backoffice (as in backorifice). It wouldn't
surprise me if you got a nasty little worm to contend with now.


CN

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Stupid Site..... you're a SPAMMER!!


"O. Spreitzer" wrote in message
y.telekom.at...
http://www.segelcenter.org




JG February 5th 05 08:07 PM

Careful Mooron. Neal will insist on having a backdoor.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:XQ8Nd.11955$tU6.2772@edtnps91...
Nah Cappy....I don't get worms or trojans... and I've never had a virus on
any of my computers. The way security is set up I have to approve anything
going out or coming in.
Plus the important **** is stored on disconnected pony drives and my raid
system allows me to hot swap drives.... I've got a complete mirror of my
system on an alternate HD.

backdoor is so old it needs a walker to get around.

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

Bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahh!
You're not too bright, Mooron. You should have gotten a clue
from the headers. Backoffice (as in backorifice). It wouldn't
surprise me if you got a nasty little worm to contend with now.


CN

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:9E6Nd.9587$tU6.3689@edtnps91...
Stupid Site..... you're a SPAMMER!!


"O. Spreitzer" wrote in message
y.telekom.at...
http://www.segelcenter.org





Lonny Bruce February 7th 05 01:11 PM

I've got a complete mirror of my
system on an alternate HD.



All that means is that if you have RAID 0 you won't know which hard drive
has been infected, and if you have RAID 1 then both hard drives will be
infected. A RAID array does nothing to protect you against worms or
viruses, only hard drive failures, and a RAID 0 array won't even protect you
against that. In fact a RAID 0 increases the chances that you will have a
mechanical failure at some point.

My computer is set up with both RAID 0 and RAID 1 (RAID 1+0) so that I get
the benefits of boths types of systems. The two hard drives set up in RAID
0 speed up all reading and writing functions, so opening programs takes half
the time, writing or reading data takes half the time. Then I have two more
hard drives in a RAID 1 array, automatically backing up everything that
happens in the RAID 0 array. For a total of 4 120GB hard drives. (240 GB
storage capacity, plus a complete backup).

Lonny


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:XQ8Nd.11955$tU6.2772@edtnps91...
Nah Cappy....I don't get worms or trojans... and I've never had a virus on
any of my computers. The way security is set up I have to approve anything
going out or coming in.
Plus the important **** is stored on disconnected pony drives and my raid
system allows me to hot swap drives.... I've got a complete mirror of my
system on an alternate HD.

backdoor is so old it needs a walker to get around.

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

Bwahahahahhahahahahhahahahh!
You're not too bright, Mooron. You should have gotten a clue
from the headers. Backoffice (as in backorifice). It wouldn't
surprise me if you got a nasty little worm to contend with now.


CN

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:9E6Nd.9587$tU6.3689@edtnps91...
Stupid Site..... you're a SPAMMER!!


"O. Spreitzer" wrote in message
y.telekom.at...
http://www.segelcenter.org





Edgar February 7th 05 01:37 PM


Lonny Bruce wrote in message
news:oOJNd.22763$uc.20667@trnddc03...
I've got a complete mirror of my
system on an alternate HD.



All that means is that if you have RAID 0 you won't know which hard drive
has been infected, and if you have RAID 1 then both hard drives will be
infected. A RAID array does nothing to protect you against worms or
viruses, only hard drive failures, and a RAID 0 array won't even protect

you
against that. In fact a RAID 0 increases the chances that you will have a
mechanical failure at some point.

My computer is set up with both RAID 0 and RAID 1 (RAID 1+0) so that I get
the benefits of boths types of systems. The two hard drives set up in

RAID
0 speed up all reading and writing functions, so opening programs takes

half
the time, writing or reading data takes half the time. Then I have two

more
hard drives in a RAID 1 array, automatically backing up everything that
happens in the RAID 0 array. For a total of 4 120GB hard drives. (240 GB
storage capacity, plus a complete backup).

Lonny


But this means that you have four large hard drives always running at 7200
rpm and therefore destined ultimately to all wear out at approximately the
same time, so your backup is going to be vulnerable at the same time as the
operating disks.
To avoid this problem I back up periodically on a USB external hard drive,
which on the days I am not using it is disconnected and therefore does not
wear. I expect you will point out that the mean time between failures of a
modern disk is very long, but it is certainly finite, and if you leave your
machine on for long periods the hours soon mount up.


Lonny Bruce February 7th 05 01:52 PM

Agreed.

And beyond that, an arguement could be made that with 4 hard drives I am 4
times as likely to experience a hard drive failure.

Still, one hard drive will fail before the others will. When it fails, it
can be replaced, and the data rebuilt before the next one fails. BTW, I am
using 10,000 RPMs and SATA, not PATA, so I enjoy faster transfers, with 8 MB
cache, as opposed to 1 MB cache used with most PATA hard drives.

With any RAID array, backups are still needed. The best kind are off site,
so as to protect against common accidents, such as lightening strikes,
fires, etc. Certainly using an external hard drive (which is also what I do
with a cute little 2.5" 40 GB USB hard drive) is better than nothing, but
off site is the best.

Thumb drives are a great invention. Because someone can use it for a
backup, at say a work computer, and then put it in their pocket, or their
purse, and will leave the premises with the backup.

Lonny


"Edgar" wrote in message
...

Lonny Bruce wrote in message
news:oOJNd.22763$uc.20667@trnddc03...
I've got a complete mirror of my
system on an alternate HD.



All that means is that if you have RAID 0 you won't know which hard drive
has been infected, and if you have RAID 1 then both hard drives will be
infected. A RAID array does nothing to protect you against worms or
viruses, only hard drive failures, and a RAID 0 array won't even protect

you
against that. In fact a RAID 0 increases the chances that you will have
a
mechanical failure at some point.

My computer is set up with both RAID 0 and RAID 1 (RAID 1+0) so that I
get
the benefits of boths types of systems. The two hard drives set up in

RAID
0 speed up all reading and writing functions, so opening programs takes

half
the time, writing or reading data takes half the time. Then I have two

more
hard drives in a RAID 1 array, automatically backing up everything that
happens in the RAID 0 array. For a total of 4 120GB hard drives. (240
GB
storage capacity, plus a complete backup).

Lonny


But this means that you have four large hard drives always running at
7200
rpm and therefore destined ultimately to all wear out at approximately the
same time, so your backup is going to be vulnerable at the same time as
the
operating disks.
To avoid this problem I back up periodically on a USB external hard drive,
which on the days I am not using it is disconnected and therefore does not
wear. I expect you will point out that the mean time between failures of a
modern disk is very long, but it is certainly finite, and if you leave
your
machine on for long periods the hours soon mount up.




Capt. Mooron February 7th 05 02:09 PM


"Lonny Bruce" wrote in message

All that means is that if you have RAID 0 you won't know which hard drive
has been infected, and if you have RAID 1 then both hard drives will be
infected. A RAID array does nothing to protect you against worms or
viruses, only hard drive failures, and a RAID 0 array won't even protect
you against that. In fact a RAID 0 increases the chances that you will
have a mechanical failure at some point.

My computer is set up with both RAID 0 and RAID 1 (RAID 1+0) so that I get
the benefits of boths types of systems. The two hard drives set up in
RAID 0 speed up all reading and writing functions, so opening programs
takes half the time, writing or reading data takes half the time. Then I
have two more hard drives in a RAID 1 array, automatically backing up
everything that happens in the RAID 0 array. For a total of 4 120GB hard
drives. (240 GB storage capacity, plus a complete backup).


Nice set-up.... I simply have a complete 80 gig with OS & all programs
loaded. All data is saved to the pony drives. They are not connected until I
require the files. Then again.. like I said... I've never been infected with
a worm or a Trojan... let alone a virus.

CM



Capt. Neal® February 7th 05 04:38 PM

It's so funny that the people in this group with the tiniest pea-brains
brag about having the most or biggest hard drives . . .

CN


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:uEKNd.11057$K54.5021@edtnps84...

"Lonny Bruce" wrote in message

All that means is that if you have RAID 0 you won't know which hard drive
has been infected, and if you have RAID 1 then both hard drives will be
infected. A RAID array does nothing to protect you against worms or
viruses, only hard drive failures, and a RAID 0 array won't even protect
you against that. In fact a RAID 0 increases the chances that you will
have a mechanical failure at some point.

My computer is set up with both RAID 0 and RAID 1 (RAID 1+0) so that I get
the benefits of boths types of systems. The two hard drives set up in
RAID 0 speed up all reading and writing functions, so opening programs
takes half the time, writing or reading data takes half the time. Then I
have two more hard drives in a RAID 1 array, automatically backing up
everything that happens in the RAID 0 array. For a total of 4 120GB hard
drives. (240 GB storage capacity, plus a complete backup).


Nice set-up.... I simply have a complete 80 gig with OS & all programs
loaded. All data is saved to the pony drives. They are not connected until I
require the files. Then again.. like I said... I've never been infected with
a worm or a Trojan... let alone a virus.

CM




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