Telescope question for the Bobsprit
 

Robert,

I'm looking at getting a large diameter reflector telescope that is
inexpensive and would like your opinion. I'm going to use it for terrestrial
use, mainly looking at prairie dogs getting their heads blown off, looking
in people's windows, babe watching at the reservoir and scoping out climbs
and hunting terrain. I'm considering this one from eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1456 530&rd=1

Will I need a Barlow for it? How hard is it to hook up a camera? A digital
imaging focal plane? What do you think of the scope? What would you
recommend in that price range?

Thanks Robert, your informed opinion is highly valued.

Gilligan

"Gilligan" wrote in message ink.net...

Thanks Robert, your informed opinion is highly valued.


Bwaahhhahhahhahahahhahahhahhah!

You should have said his informed opinion is highly non-existent.

CN

Junk...The description of that scope itself should send you running..." NEW
BURGUNDY 6" REFLECTOR ". I buy and sell a couple of dozen scopes a year. If
you would like a nice "Inexpensive...not cheap"set up for looking in your
neighbors window I would tell you to look for an older mak style spotting
scope from celestron. Or even a small bushnell or celestron reflector. The
114mm is not a bad value and common as sand. They are on ebay all the time
and can be had for well under 100.00 with a tripod and maybe a few ep's. The
other thing you need to consider is the mount. That mount shown on the" NEW
BURGUNDY 6" REFLECTOR "is known as equitorial and is designed to align with
the earths north south axis. It is not a point and shoot mount. I would
recomend an alt/az mount...left/ right /up /down. The equitorial maintains
north /south alighnment and the scope actually rotates instead of the mount
to achieve all angles. Bob has an alt az mount on the scope he shows the
picture of. It is great for photography as you do not get star trails during
long exposure since it is only tracking east to west. The alt az on the
other hand will do a terrific job only it is moving in three dimensions
allowing more for more error during long exposure.I hope this helps...

Mundo

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Robert,

I'm looking at getting a large diameter reflector telescope that is
inexpensive and would like your opinion. I'm going to use it for
terrestrial
use, mainly looking at prairie dogs getting their heads blown off, looking
in people's windows, babe watching at the reservoir and scoping out climbs
and hunting terrain. I'm considering this one from eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1456 530&rd=1

Will I need a Barlow for it? How hard is it to hook up a camera? A digital
imaging focal plane? What do you think of the scope? What would you
recommend in that price range?

Thanks Robert, your informed opinion is highly valued.

Gilligan

Correction...Bobs mount is an equitorial..damn dislexia..
Mundo

"Mundo" wrote in message
news:YOcMd.3895$uc.492@trnddc09...
Junk...The description of that scope itself should send you running..."
NEW BURGUNDY 6" REFLECTOR ". I buy and sell a couple of dozen scopes a
year. If you would like a nice "Inexpensive...not cheap"set up for looking
in your neighbors window I would tell you to look for an older mak style
spotting scope from celestron. Or even a small bushnell or celestron
reflector. The 114mm is not a bad value and common as sand. They are on
ebay all the time and can be had for well under 100.00 with a tripod and
maybe a few ep's. The other thing you need to consider is the mount. That
mount shown on the" NEW BURGUNDY 6" REFLECTOR "is known as equitorial and
is designed to align with the earths north south axis. It is not a point
and shoot mount. I would recomend an alt/az mount...left/ right /up /down.
The equitorial maintains north /south alighnment and the scope actually
rotates instead of the mount to achieve all angles. Bob has an alt az
mount on the scope he shows the picture of. It is great for photography as
you do not get star trails during long exposure since it is only tracking
east to west. The alt az on the other hand will do a terrific job only it
is moving in three dimensions allowing more for more error during long
exposure.I hope this helps...

Mundo

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Robert,

I'm looking at getting a large diameter reflector telescope that is
inexpensive and would like your opinion. I'm going to use it for
terrestrial
use, mainly looking at prairie dogs getting their heads blown off,
looking
in people's windows, babe watching at the reservoir and scoping out
climbs
and hunting terrain. I'm considering this one from eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1456 530&rd=1

Will I need a Barlow for it? How hard is it to hook up a camera? A
digital
imaging focal plane? What do you think of the scope? What would you
recommend in that price range?

Thanks Robert, your informed opinion is highly valued.

Gilligan

"Mundo" wrote

Correction...Bobs mount is an equitorial..damn dislexia..



Better than Gaynzy's mount which is homosexual . . .

CN

Thanks. Is the equatorial mount the same as a polar mount? I have two polar
mounts that can swing several hundred pounds of antenna for satellite
tracking. They can't do az/el and the dish does swing, not the mount. What
exactly is wrong withe the advertised scope? Is it the burgundy, should I
get a white one instead? Is the lens ground to less precision? Are the
coatings no good? Is the mounting of the optics not true? I currently have a
cheapo ~3" spotting scope for shooting but it is a cheapo.

Thanks for the input Mundo.

Gilligan

"Mundo" wrote in message
news:YOcMd.3895$uc.492@trnddc09...
Junk...The description of that scope itself should send you running..."
NEW
BURGUNDY 6" REFLECTOR ". I buy and sell a couple of dozen scopes a year.
If
you would like a nice "Inexpensive...not cheap"set up for looking in your
neighbors window I would tell you to look for an older mak style spotting
scope from celestron. Or even a small bushnell or celestron reflector. The
114mm is not a bad value and common as sand. They are on ebay all the time
and can be had for well under 100.00 with a tripod and maybe a few ep's.
The
other thing you need to consider is the mount. That mount shown on the"
NEW
BURGUNDY 6" REFLECTOR "is known as equitorial and is designed to align
with
the earths north south axis. It is not a point and shoot mount. I would
recomend an alt/az mount...left/ right /up /down. The equitorial maintains
north /south alighnment and the scope actually rotates instead of the
mount
to achieve all angles. Bob has an alt az mount on the scope he shows the
picture of. It is great for photography as you do not get star trails
during
long exposure since it is only tracking east to west. The alt az on the
other hand will do a terrific job only it is moving in three dimensions
allowing more for more error during long exposure.I hope this helps...

Mundo

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Robert,

I'm looking at getting a large diameter reflector telescope that is
inexpensive and would like your opinion. I'm going to use it for
terrestrial
use, mainly looking at prairie dogs getting their heads blown off,
looking
in people's windows, babe watching at the reservoir and scoping out
climbs
and hunting terrain. I'm considering this one from eBay:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1456 530&rd=1

Will I need a Barlow for it? How hard is it to hook up a camera? A
digital
imaging focal plane? What do you think of the scope? What would you
recommend in that price range?

Thanks Robert, your informed opinion is highly valued.

Gilligan

Basically its is the same principle. Very accurate alignment and with the
axis fixed you can keep the scope aimed at the target as the earth turns
under it. I think the color is relative to your taste in shoes.As far as the
quality of the scope...I can not speak first hand..I will say that he sells
lots of these. Might be worth the hundred and fifty to find out. On the
other hand there are some quality optics available in the used market. Lots
of 80mm/3 " short tubes with nice wide field views. Truth is that the flaws
found in most mirrors are not that noticeable to the amateur unless they are
really bad.

Mundo


"Gilligan" wrote in message
nk.net...
Thanks. Is the equatorial mount the same as a polar mount? I have two
polar
mounts that can swing several hundred pounds of antenna for satellite
tracking. They can't do az/el and the dish does swing, not the mount. What
exactly is wrong withe the advertised scope? Is it the burgundy, should I
get a white one instead? Is the lens ground to less precision? Are the
coatings no good? Is the mounting of the optics not true? I currently have
a
cheapo ~3" spotting scope for shooting but it is a cheapo.

Thanks for the input Mundo.

Gilligan

"Mundo" wrote in message
news:YOcMd.3895$uc.492@trnddc09...
Junk...The description of that scope itself should send you running..."
NEW
BURGUNDY 6" REFLECTOR ". I buy and sell a couple of dozen scopes a year.
If
you would like a nice "Inexpensive...not cheap"set up for looking in your
neighbors window I would tell you to look for an older mak style spotting
scope from celestron. Or even a small bushnell or celestron reflector.
The
114mm is not a bad value and common as sand. They are on ebay all the
time
and can be had for well under 100.00 with a tripod and maybe a few ep's.
The
other thing you need to consider is the mount. That mount shown on the"
NEW
BURGUNDY 6" REFLECTOR "is known as equitorial and is designed to align
with
the earths north south axis. It is not a point and shoot mount. I would
recomend an alt/az mount...left/ right /up /down. The equitorial
maintains
north /south alighnment and the scope actually rotates instead of the
mount
to achieve all angles. Bob has an alt az mount on the scope he shows the
picture of. It is great for photography as you do not get star trails
during
long exposure since it is only tracking east to west. The alt az on the
other hand will do a terrific job only it is moving in three dimensions
allowing more for more error during long exposure.I hope this helps...

Mundo

"Gilligan" wrote in message
ink.net...
Robert,

I'm looking at getting a large diameter reflector telescope that is
inexpensive and would like your opinion. I'm going to use it for
terrestrial
use, mainly looking at prairie dogs getting their heads blown off,
looking
in people's windows, babe watching at the reservoir and scoping out
climbs
and hunting terrain. I'm considering this one from eBay:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...1456 530&rd=1

Will I need a Barlow for it? How hard is it to hook up a camera? A
digital
imaging focal plane? What do you think of the scope? What would you
recommend in that price range?

Thanks Robert, your informed opinion is highly valued.

Gilligan

Gilligan, the scope pictured is junk. Mundo is correct. You need a spotting
scope, such as a refracting or Mak, set on a conventional tripod.

http://www.telescope.com/shopping/pr...mID=367&itemTy
pe=PRODUCT&iMainCat=4&iSubCat=10&iProductID=367

The unit above is very well made. Celestron also has a new 90mm with a flip
prism that is also waterproof for the same price, but it has yet to be tested
anywhere. A refracting spotting scope can cost even less in some cases, but I
like the little maks because they make nice asto scopes as well. A higher power
eyepiece is better than a barlow, but some folks go with barlows to use lower
power eyepieces and better eye relief (eyeglass wearers especially). The C90
and Orion 90mm are both capable as camera lenses. You'll need a T-Adaptor and a
ring for your specific camera. A long lens will outperform these scopes in some
respects, but are ungainly in their own right. Here's a pic of my D70 with a
400mm.
http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/lens.jpg

Good luck,

RB

Thank you Robert and Mundo!

Gilligan

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Gilligan, the scope pictured is junk. Mundo is correct. You need a
spotting
scope, such as a refracting or Mak, set on a conventional tripod.

http://www.telescope.com/shopping/pr...mID=367&itemTy
pe=PRODUCT&iMainCat=4&iSubCat=10&iProductID=367

The unit above is very well made. Celestron also has a new 90mm with a
flip
prism that is also waterproof for the same price, but it has yet to be
tested
anywhere. A refracting spotting scope can cost even less in some cases,
but I
like the little maks because they make nice asto scopes as well. A higher
power
eyepiece is better than a barlow, but some folks go with barlows to use
lower
power eyepieces and better eye relief (eyeglass wearers especially). The
C90
and Orion 90mm are both capable as camera lenses. You'll need a T-Adaptor
and a
ring for your specific camera. A long lens will outperform these scopes in
some
respects, but are ungainly in their own right. Here's a pic of my D70 with
a
400mm.
http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/lens.jpg

Good luck,

RB