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This proves it, only Bobspit would post something this contemptible.
BBob, you really are one sorry asshole. SV wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:09:03 -0500, "Scott Vernon" wrote: wrote Only an asshole would continue to post binaries to a non-bianry group after being told it was the wrong thing to do. This can hurt the group in a long term way. Please don't do it ever again. BBob the asshole Hurt the group? WTF are you babbling about, you idiot? News Servers are monitored by their owners for bandwidth use. They determine how long to keep posts in various groups based on how much bandwidth they use. Busy groups get watched more closely. If people start posting binaries to a non binary group that is also a fairly busy group, they shorten the retention time for ALL posts to that group, and in some cases, drop the group entirely. It has happened. Meanwhile, some of the most major News Servers automatically kill any posts with binaries attached, posted to non-binary groups, so your message will not even be seen by a large percentage of people. It's a stupid thing to do, which is why Web TV idiots such as Thom do it. He'll be dead soon, so hopefully it won't be an on going issue. BB |
John,
I just re-pubilished the addy. BB is correct, I'm sorry to say, I added another Page and didn't publish it It is so easy to send a single picture with my new VCR/DVD and Digital Camera that I went wild. My apologies. Try it now, as I'm going to do right now. Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
John,
I hope you got access to My Page. If you didn't let me know and I'll e-mail you direct http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
it works for me.
Scotty "John Cairns" wrote in message om... "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... BB, I do believe, LP has put you down!! Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage Keep clicking on this link and getting page cannot be found message. Would like to see a pic of your boat, could you please post a useable link? John Cairns |
The url works fine.
What make of boat is that? "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... John, I hope you got access to My Page. If you didn't let me know and I'll e-mail you direct http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
Steve,
The boat is a "Gulf 29" made by Capital Yachts ( Now out of business) It is a great boat and Capital was very helpful in semi-customizing it for me. Stay tuned in, I'm planning on post some more pictures of the interior of the Pilothouse and the way I set it up for "Single handed sailing" Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
Scott Vernon wrote:
it works for me. Scotty It works here (and always has since the "Ole" guy has been posting it). I think it's that sbcglobal.net thing. They took over and ruined several good ISPs. Cairns needs to give sbcglobal.net the boot. "John Cairns" wrote in message om... "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... BB, I do believe, LP has put you down!! Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage Keep clicking on this link and getting page cannot be found message. Would like to see a pic of your boat, could you please post a useable link? John Cairns |
More like single-handed MOTORING! With that big ole pilot house
you must have a tiny mainsail. CN "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Steve, The boat is a "Gulf 29" made by Capital Yachts ( Now out of business) It is a great boat and Capital was very helpful in semi-customizing it for me. Stay tuned in, I'm planning on post some more pictures of the interior of the Pilothouse and the way I set it up for "Single handed sailing" Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
"bell" wrote in message ... Scott Vernon wrote: it works for me. Scotty It works here (and always has since the "Ole" guy has been posting it). I think it's that sbcglobal.net thing. They took over and ruined several good ISPs. Cairns needs to give sbcglobal.net the boot. You needed to read Thom's response. John Cairns "John Cairns" wrote in message om... "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... BB, I do believe, LP has put you down!! Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage Keep clicking on this link and getting page cannot be found message. Would like to see a pic of your boat, could you please post a useable link? John Cairns |
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... John, I hope you got access to My Page. If you didn't let me know and I'll e-mail you direct http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage Works fine now. Have seen line drawings of a Gulf 29, never have seen one "in the flesh". Thanks. John Cairns |
John
Just added another picture of the Gulf 29 out of the water. when I published it the same picture came up on the unpublished one that screwed up the page. Enjoy both. Young pups and old dogs are still having problems with the "Home Page" You work it out. Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... John Just added another picture of the Gulf 29 out of the water. when I published it the same picture came up on the unpublished one that screwed up the page. Enjoy both. Young pups and old dogs are still having problems with the "Home Page" You work it out. Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage I'm thinking you were working on the page when I tried to look at it the first time. Noticed the wing keel, will the boat sit upright when the tide goes out? John Cairns |
Crapton Neal;
My main is 160 sq ft. Larger than yours. What is the size of your Hong Kong Main anyhow? You should be able to give us a very accurate reading right off your purchase sheet as I did. My "J" is 11' 10". I carry a 319 sq ft Jenny on a furler. It is a 10-40 HH Regulater 150% For light air I have a Hild 170% Drifter which is 331 sq ft, which I can fly free behind the rolled up jenny or I can remove the Jenny and set the Drifter in the slot on the twin groove furler, for racing purpose in Cruising Class, I also, carry a Assy. Spinnaker that falls somewhere in between the Jenny and the Drifter. Not sure exactly the sq ft ? I've modified it a few times. Added panels to it between the bottom panel (2) Eased the top Vertical section some when I put it in the sleeve. That's my sails. I know my "P" is higher than yours because you told me the main I offered you was to long. Tell us Neal, what is the size of Rig? Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
The mainsail cover looks a bit skimpy. It doesn't even make it to the bottom of the boom. CN "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... John Just added another picture of the Gulf 29 out of the water. when I published it the same picture came up on the unpublished one that screwed up the page. Enjoy both. Young pups and old dogs are still having problems with the "Home Page" You work it out. Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
wrote in message ... Too bad, Donald. Just like that nearly dead asswipe Thom, I'll continue to do as I please. If you don't like it, then don't read it. I don't killfile .. so I guess that I'll just have to read your drivel. However, I suspect that everybody else has already killfiled you. I doubt that I'll respond to you again. You'll fade away like the other social misfits who had brief moments of fame on ASA. Goodbye. Regards Donal -- |
Nice boat.
Like a C&C with a pilot house. The extra windage must seem a small price when the weather is cold and wet. "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Steve, The boat is a "Gulf 29" made by Capital Yachts ( Now out of business) It is a great boat and Capital was very helpful in semi-customizing it for me. Stay tuned in, I'm planning on post some more pictures of the interior of the Pilothouse and the way I set it up for "Single handed sailing" Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
John,
Never tried it (Sitting on the wing out of the water.) Damn well don't intend to try it either. With the wind we have around here know it wouldn't stay upright http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
Steve,
You're making a terrible mistake listening to Neal's nonsense. He just fires for effect. Look at Pneuma profile as compared to the Catalena 30 moored on the same finger pier. (Picture number three.) You tell me which boat has the higher windage. The Cat 30's cabin and the top of the Pilothouse are at about the same height. The pilothouse is a lot lower than the Cat 30's Dodger. Now go forward of the Pilothouse. "Pneuma's profile is lower than the Cat 30 for about 10 to 12 feet. Now go to Neal's Web and look at "Mustard's" coach profile. Pneumatic windage is probably lower than Neal's raised Aft Cabin and he is two foot shorter overall. Just compare the window size in both cabins. About half his statements made about boat are without basic facts. They are meant to create discussion, such as this. Don't believe anything he posts. It mostly misleading to at times pure BS. But; he is our Crapton regardless! http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
Steve,
The "Gulf 29" is much more like the "Newport 30". That is the Hull it is biult up from. There is some difference in the stern Neal, is you are reading this you go to picture #3 and tell me that sail cover is to small? Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
I've frozen too many times on boats.
On my coldest trip it hit 22 degrees and ice was freezing on the deck. The little propane heater on board was not working. We ran the engine partly for the heat, mostly the get the job done quickly. What is the coldest you've seen Thom? At temperatures below freezing I'd certainly have a diesel cabin heater. And better yet a heated pilothouse. ********** Pelagic--triple roller head sails rigging, aluminum hull. Scroll down to the picture of the bow over the Humpback. http://www.pelagic.co.uk/charter/antarct.htm ********** I've frozen too many times on boats. On my coldest trip it hit 22 degrees and ice was freezing on the deck. The little propane heater on board was not working. We ran the engine partly for the heat, mostly the get the job done quickly. What is the coldest you've seen Thom? Bart "Thom Stewart" wrote Real sailors don't have to huddle inside the cabin around a homemade heater at 50 degrees. We high Latitude sailors sail for the pure pleasure of sailing. |
Bart,
I have a Red Dot heater in the pilothouse and when its cold I run the diesel at a fast idle for the Red Dot and the PH stays nice a warm. I also have a "Heat Pal" which does a good job keeping the PH Cozy and I can turn the top grill upside down and cook a stew are BBQ ribs. I've found that running the engine for the Red Dot uses less fuel than the Heat Pal. Both do a good job. The coldest I've ever seen was a trip from Sag Harbor to Greenport on Long Island Sound in a freezing rain. That was a lot of years ago and I was a lot younger. I've sailed a lot more in cold weather out here in the NW but have managed to stay pretty comfortable. Winter Sailing can be fun; if you set up for it. Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
"Thom Stewart" wrote For light air I have a Hild 170% Drifter which is 331 sq ft, which I can fly free behind the rolled up jenny Thom, how do you attach the tack? Scotty |
NW Weather Chk
Temp; @ 6:00 AM 47' F Cloudy Sorry Northeastern's! Looks like a pretty tough Blizzard. Ole Thom |
Give it up, old man! My sails are better than yours in every possible way.
For one thing, all my sails are real. I won't have that roll-up crap aboard. My mainsail has the following dimensions: P = 27 feet E = 9" 6" Area = 134 ft2 6.9 US oz Dacron white 4 standard battens two reef points at 4' and 8' above boom with clamcleat at each reef number 91 in black color on each side Coronado insignia in black on both sides luff 1/2 inch slug slides foot- shelf foot with 3/8" bolt rope with 3/8" slug at clew triple stitch, aluminum headboard, leach line with clam cleat, patches at head, tack, clew, telltales, sailbags, tie lines in reefing points, tack offset: A = 5-3/8", B=1", C=sliding, D=6", E = 1", F = 3/4" Price= $515.95 USD It's OK for you to be jealous. As for your silly roll-up headsail, I got you beat because I have the following hank-on, trouble free sails. Storm jib (new) 75% jib (new) 100% jib (new) 110% jib (old, original) 130% jenny (new) 150% jenny (new) 170% jenny (old original) Asymmetrical cruising spinnaker with sock (matching blue and yellow) (new) 150% drifter (blue and white stripes) (good condition, Bacon's) "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Crapton Neal; My main is 160 sq ft. Larger than yours. What is the size of your Hong Kong Main anyhow? You should be able to give us a very accurate reading right off your purchase sheet as I did. My "J" is 11' 10". I carry a 319 sq ft Jenny on a furler. It is a 10-40 HH Regulater 150% For light air I have a Hild 170% Drifter which is 331 sq ft, which I can fly free behind the rolled up jenny or I can remove the Jenny and set the Drifter in the slot on the twin groove furler, for racing purpose in Cruising Class, I also, carry a Assy. Spinnaker that falls somewhere in between the Jenny and the Drifter. Not sure exactly the sq ft ? I've modified it a few times. Added panels to it between the bottom panel (2) Eased the top Vertical section some when I put it in the sleeve. That's my sails. I know my "P" is higher than yours because you told me the main I offered you was to long. Tell us Neal, what is the size of Rig? Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Steve, You're making a terrible mistake listening to Neal's nonsense. He just fires for effect. Look at Pneuma profile as compared to the Catalena 30 moored on the same finger pier. (Picture number three.) You tell me which boat has the higher windage. The Cat 30's cabin and the top of the Pilothouse are at about the same height. The pilothouse is a lot lower than the Cat 30's Dodger. Now go forward of the Pilothouse. "Pneuma's profile is lower than the Cat 30 for about 10 to 12 feet. Now go to Neal's Web and look at "Mustard's" coach profile. Pneumatic windage is probably lower than Neal's raised Aft Cabin and he is two foot shorter overall. Just compare the window size in both cabins. About half his statements made about boat are without basic facts. They are meant to create discussion, such as this. Don't believe anything he posts. It mostly misleading to at times pure BS. But; he is our Crapton regardless! http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage My, oh my but somebody has been eating his Wheaties today. Wheaties or no, you need to get your glasses checked. There is no way Cut the Mustard's streamlined cabin profile has more windage than your squared off box sitting atop a hull that looks like a mid-eighties vintage Hunter. Your boat looks like a floating Nash Rambler with it's silly windshield. Try to remember that real sailboats are operated from the cockpit and not from inside a pilot house. That's for trawlers and ships the likes of which Shen and otnmbrd claim to operate. CN |
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Steve, The "Gulf 29" is much more like the "Newport 30". That is the Hull it is biult up from. There is some difference in the stern Neal, is you are reading this you go to picture #3 and tell me that sail cover is to small? Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage http://community-2.webtv.net/tassail.../mailedD15.jpg The sail cover is too small vertically. Look in the picture how it can't even manage to cover the bottom of the boom forward. CN |
Just wait until you eventually run aground with those silly little end plates on the bottom of your keel. You won't even be able to heel the vessel to lift the keep because the end plates will just dig in and the boat will be even more stuck. And, if you ever anchor when there is a good tidal current running that shifts every six hours you will find the rode gets tangled on those silly little end plates as the boat veers to wind and tide. Most likely the anchor will get pulled lose. It constantly amazes me how so-called cruising sailors on this group know so little about cruising and all that's involved with it. CN "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... John, Never tried it (Sitting on the wing out of the water.) Damn well don't intend to try it either. With the wind we have around here know it wouldn't stay upright http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
Scott,
With the roller furler it leaves the tack hook empty on the bow. It is in front of the furler but as soon as the sail fills with air it flies clear. The same for the peak. I fly it from my spinnaker halyard, which is forward of the furler. It clears itself with the wind. Tacking is the problem; if I want to stay clear of the upper fitting on the furler. I carry my lazy sheet forward of the furler so that when I tack, everything clears to the other side. The clew usually needs to be guided around. Scott, in real light air, I often just run both sheet behind the furler and let the peak and the tack wrap around the furler. The fact of the matter is, this is the way I fly it most of the time. Tacking is very simple this way and single handing I don't have to leave the cockpit. I have to be on the proper tack to lower it. When it is lowered I return the Halyard to a position over the spreader to free it from the furler. If you're thinking of doing it I'll send you some pictures. The Drifter works great. It has really kept the Spinnaker in its Bag. Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
BB,
Your right, it is the Peconic Sound but you put a label on yourself for making the point. |
Neal,
You didn't follow directions. Picture #3 is the new main with the new cover as it is today. Picture #3. The picture of the boat in the water as of today. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
Neal,
Jealous is not the proper word to be used concerning those Hong Kong Sails. The word is PITY. I'm so sorry you wasted $500 on them. Got to go now Crappy. FOOTBALL TIME See you later! http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
One of these days, I'm gonna have to teach you about sailing and how to
put up a vessel after a sail. Your mainsail is a mess. I can tell from the shape of it in the picture you finally posted on your site. Don't you know how to flake a sail onto the boom in small folds? Haven't you ever used a topping lift to set your boom so it rests with the aft end just slightly higher than the forward end? And that sail cover is a wrinkled mess as well. Shame on you. Real sailors take pride in how their boats look even at anchor or at a dock (heaven forbid!) Your boat looks like it has an owner who is slovenly. CN "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Neal, You didn't follow directions. Picture #3 is the new main with the new cover as it is today. Picture #3. The picture of the boat in the water as of today. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
I just did. Unless sbcglobal has really changed their MO, then I still
stand by my comments about them ruining several good ISPs. John Cairns wrote: "bell" wrote in message ... Scott Vernon wrote: it works for me. Scotty It works here (and always has since the "Ole" guy has been posting it). I think it's that sbcglobal.net thing. They took over and ruined several good ISPs. Cairns needs to give sbcglobal.net the boot. You needed to read Thom's response. John Cairns "John Cairns" wrote in message om... "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... BB, I do believe, LP has put you down!! Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage Keep clicking on this link and getting page cannot be found message. Would like to see a pic of your boat, could you please post a useable link? John Cairns |
wrote Your right, it is the Peconic Sound but you put a label on yourself for making the point. And, yes, I'm a dickhead and asshole, as well. Thanks for pointing it out! BBob |
I'd like to get a Drifter, but this year I'm getting a new genny ( I
hope). My tack hook is right below the furler drum. Was wondering how good those 'ATN Tacker' work. Scotty "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Scott, With the roller furler it leaves the tack hook empty on the bow. It is in front of the furler but as soon as the sail fills with air it flies clear. The same for the peak. I fly it from my spinnaker halyard, which is forward of the furler. It clears itself with the wind. Tacking is the problem; if I want to stay clear of the upper fitting on the furler. I carry my lazy sheet forward of the furler so that when I tack, everything clears to the other side. The clew usually needs to be guided around. Scott, in real light air, I often just run both sheet behind the furler and let the peak and the tack wrap around the furler. The fact of the matter is, this is the way I fly it most of the time. Tacking is very simple this way and single handing I don't have to leave the cockpit. I have to be on the proper tack to lower it. When it is lowered I return the Halyard to a position over the spreader to free it from the furler. If you're thinking of doing it I'll send you some pictures. The Drifter works great. It has really kept the Spinnaker in its Bag. Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
Scott Vernon wrote:
I'd like to get a Drifter, but this year I'm getting a new genny ( I hope). My tack hook is right below the furler drum. Was wondering how good those 'ATN Tacker' work. Scotty With a drifter and a furler, you really don't want to use the hook. A properly sized snapshackle is a much better choice. If you really need to know how I know this, I will explain, but I'd rather not. Think of the slackened halyard tension, super light winds, and slowly tacking the drifter as it's weight slackens the luff. "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Scott, With the roller furler it leaves the tack hook empty on the bow. It is in front of the furler but as soon as the sail fills with air it flies clear. The same for the peak. I fly it from my spinnaker halyard, which is forward of the furler. It clears itself with the wind. Tacking is the problem; if I want to stay clear of the upper fitting on the furler. I carry my lazy sheet forward of the furler so that when I tack, everything clears to the other side. The clew usually needs to be guided around. Scott, in real light air, I often just run both sheet behind the furler and let the peak and the tack wrap around the furler. The fact of the matter is, this is the way I fly it most of the time. Tacking is very simple this way and single handing I don't have to leave the cockpit. I have to be on the proper tack to lower it. When it is lowered I return the Halyard to a position over the spreader to free it from the furler. If you're thinking of doing it I'll send you some pictures. The Drifter works great. It has really kept the Spinnaker in its Bag. Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I'd like to get a Drifter, but this year I'm getting a new genny ( I hope). My tack hook is right below the furler drum. Was wondering how good those 'ATN Tacker' work. Scotty http://community.webshots.com/photo/...83724087CHymmL Works fairly well, but considering the cost ($75 IIRC) I couldn't help thinking afterward that I might have been able to fabricate something along the same lines that worked just as well for next to nothing. John Cairns "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Scott, With the roller furler it leaves the tack hook empty on the bow. It is in front of the furler but as soon as the sail fills with air it flies clear. The same for the peak. I fly it from my spinnaker halyard, which is forward of the furler. It clears itself with the wind. Tacking is the problem; if I want to stay clear of the upper fitting on the furler. I carry my lazy sheet forward of the furler so that when I tack, everything clears to the other side. The clew usually needs to be guided around. Scott, in real light air, I often just run both sheet behind the furler and let the peak and the tack wrap around the furler. The fact of the matter is, this is the way I fly it most of the time. Tacking is very simple this way and single handing I don't have to leave the cockpit. I have to be on the proper tack to lower it. When it is lowered I return the Halyard to a position over the spreader to free it from the furler. If you're thinking of doing it I'll send you some pictures. The Drifter works great. It has really kept the Spinnaker in its Bag. Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
Scott & John,
First; Scotty, About the ATN Tacker. I carvered mine out off a used Tide Plastic bottle with a line stitched to the outside with loops to take a shackle. If you want one, send me a snail Addy and I'll ship you one. Second; John, if you need a down haul a block to the Tack Hook, which you're not using, and a line to the tack, thru the block and back to the cockpit to a cleat. Also, John, looking at the picture, you would be much better off running your Spinnaker forward of all those lines, with your sheets outside everything (Both working sheet and lazy sheet) Then Gybbing, you head up a bit, let go the working sheet, pull the spinnaker thru to the wind shadow of the Main. Set the new working sheet, Gybe the Main and away you go on the new course That is another joy off the Cruising Spinnaker. Easy Gybbing, no pole and only sheets and down haul, to be set from the cockpit. No one at the pointy end of the boat during a Gybe. Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
John,
A good stitching job in the tack corner of your main. Take note Neal! That's a corner of a main that has a bolt rope in the foot of the SAIL. Thanks for the picture, Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
My tack and clew are stronger looking that that! They are
triple stitched and have a series of patches so the sail in that area is many layers thick. My sails will far outlast yours even though I use them at least twice as much. CN "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... John, A good stitching job in the tack corner of your main. Take note Neal! That's a corner of a main that has a bolt rope in the foot of the SAIL. Thanks for the picture, Ole Thom http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsHomePage |
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