Have a Happy New Years!
 

My office is now close and Im throwing off the land lines to headout
for a moonlit evening sailing Galveston bay into next year.
Have A Happy, Healty & Prosperious New Year!

Joe

Thanks Joe

Happy sailing!

OT

Thom Stewart wrote:
Thanks Joe

Happy sailing!

OT

Thanks Ol Thom,

We had a great sail, just after sundown the fog rolled in and we
sailed until 01:30 then we anchored close to and island called RedFish.
It was our small world sailing by GPS on autopilot, the bay was smooth
and it was like flying thru clouds, visibility was less than 40 feet
and the fog made the sails into a great sprinkler system. It was
suprising how many boats were out sailing and motering. New years
morning was great, Coffee made in a perculator, Pelicans fishing and
peace and quiet. I hope the whole year turns out as peaceful.

Joe

"Joe" wrote

New years
morning was great, Coffee made in a perculator, Pelican fishing and
peace and quiet.


Lucky you. What size line do you use for pelicans?

Scotty

Pelican's fishing.

A huge flock of white pelicans were onto a school of shrimp being drove
to the surface by speckeled trout next to where we anchored. It's
amazing to watch them work as a team. They surround the school all
swimming to the center at the same time and all scoop at the same time.
Swim out to the edge of the circle and start over. Also a massave
number of gulls were working the ship channel, we could not see them
but Hitchcock would of loved to have recorded it for his movie The
Birds. Redfish Island is right next to the Houston Ship Channel we
anchored with the island between us and the channel. You could hear the
ships coming for several miles, then hear the wake crash across the
whole length of the island... followed by the birds fishing the prop
wash then fading to total silence. It was amazing every little sound
turned up to full volume by the fog.

Joe

"I'm in on a plot"
Alfred's Hitchcock's tombstone

"Joe" wrote
Hitchcock would of loved to have recorded for his movie The Birds

Joe.

The sails made a sprinkler

Ahh, the joys of a Pilothouse and an inside Helm Station.

Try to imagine that dripping in 38 degress F. That is exactly what I
face out here

Ole Thom

In the spirit of friendship I offer this primer to the ng:
Scout, Haggie, Scotty, Loco,NoPony (steve), Doug are all Chesapeake and
surrounding areas sailors; Maxprop, John Cairns, myself and Horvath are
Great Lakes sailors (and Lonny when he has time to sail...)'; Bart I believe
is in Connecticut or Massachusetts somewhere. I can't remember where Jeff's
homeport is..but he sails Florida sometimes. Neal sits on a can in the
swampland surrounding the Bay of Florida; Bobsprit/BB sails in the matrix;
Jax is lost somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle; Thom is up by the Columbia
River in Oregon, which is also Michael's homeport when he's not on some ship
somewhere that we can't mention; Mike and Lady Sailor live in CA but sail
Mexico, OZ and Taddy (Tadpole) and Peter Wiley are from various ports in
Australia; Nav (MC) is from New Zealand; Edgar's home port was in England
but now he lives in Norway; stevie summers and wally and Donal are all from
great Britain; Martin is from Canada as is Mooron. Gilligan and all his
sockpuppets live in Colorado. It is up to you to figure out who his puppets
are.

Rick wrote in message ...
On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:47:49 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote:

Joe.

The sails made a sprinkler

Ahh, the joys of a Pilothouse and an inside Helm Station.

Try to imagine that dripping in 38 degress F. That is exactly what I
face out here

Ole Thom

Thom,

If it isn't considered inappropriate, where is it that you are at?
Are you a live aboard?

I assure you, I do not mean to be asking rude questions. I've recently
come upon this group because of my new found interest in sailing and
am trying to sort out the posters in here.

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Joe.

The sails made a sprinkler

Ahh, the joys of a Pilothouse and an inside Helm Station.

Try to imagine that dripping in 38 degress F. That is exactly what I
face out here

Ole Thom


Or practically any temperature for that matter. My friend John and myself, I
admit, never thought much of the asthetics of full enclosures, I still
don't, for that matter. I will admit, it's nice being relatively dry during
night watches. I could see something like this on my boat with the addition
of screens, to keep the bugs out.

http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...eid=jkrets0063


http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51754322gXYAOI

John Cairns

John Cairns wrote:
I could see something like this on my boat with the addition
of screens, to keep the bugs out.


http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...eid=jkrets0063


Thats how I started John, And it aint worth the investment!

They leak ,fall apart, are hard to fit, mold, rott ect. And did I say
leak?, because if I did not, i better say it again, they LEAK!!!

If you want a dry wheelhouse you have to go with a total hard top.
My pilot house can be removed with 6 bolts and an afternoon's work...
and be put on the dock.

My Wheelhouse is always DRY,COOL or WARM. Large clear hatch to
stargaze, Huge rool up Sunbrella canvas sides and stern hatch, the
windshield open forward for great air flow. Great all around
visibility. And since we live aboard this is allot of extra...
enjoyable.... living space.

Infact if you search google images for "RedCloud sailboat" you will see
the top I ended up tossing in a dumpster.

Mark my word! Don't do it!

Joe



http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51754322gXYAOI

John Cairns

You're welcome. Don't let the flamers get to you here. Most of the
regulars have been here for years and years and years so we are all used to
it (you develop a thick hide after awhile...) Sometimes you have to sift
through messages to get the answers you want or need...usually the first 3-4
replies to a question are valid and then the thread digresses...or
disintegrates...don't get discouraged. And if someone P's you O....make
sure you tell them so.

Rick wrote in message ...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:38:23 GMT, "katysails"
wrote:

In the spirit of friendship I offer this primer to the ng:
Scout, Haggie, Scotty, Loco,NoPony (steve), Doug are all Chesapeake and
surrounding areas sailors; Maxprop, John Cairns, myself and Horvath are
Great Lakes sailors (and Lonny when he has time to sail...)'; Bart I
believe
is in Connecticut or Massachusetts somewhere. I can't remember where
Jeff's
homeport is..but he sails Florida sometimes. Neal sits on a can in the
swampland surrounding the Bay of Florida; Bobsprit/BB sails in the matrix;
Jax is lost somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle; Thom is up by the Columbia
River in Oregon, which is also Michael's homeport when he's not on some
ship
somewhere that we can't mention; Mike and Lady Sailor live in CA but sail
Mexico, OZ and Taddy (Tadpole) and Peter Wiley are from various ports in
Australia; Nav (MC) is from New Zealand; Edgar's home port was in England
but now he lives in Norway; stevie summers and wally and Donal are all
from
great Britain; Martin is from Canada as is Mooron. Gilligan and all his
sockpuppets live in Colorado. It is up to you to figure out who his
puppets
are.

Thank you for the clarifications. Very thoughtful of you to provide
that primer.
Myself, I sail on Lake Winnipsaukee which is in New Hampshire. I
should rephrase that. I try to sail. I'm am very much a rookie.
I've wanted to seriously learn how to sail for many years, but until
this past year circumstances prevented it. Now I am in my second
childhood and have the sailing bug quite seriously. I own my own small
boat and am enjoying learning about it and doing things to it to
improve it. I plan to eventually move it t the ocean for sailing
around the Maine islands. I have no current desire to sail around the
world as so many new to sailing seem to, just some coastal cruising in
waters somewhat known to me.

Again, thank you for the clarification.

Rick, I'm about to post a more complete one... I notice that Katy left me
out completely. I live in Northern California, and sail (mostly) on the SF
bay.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Rick wrote in message ...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:38:23 GMT, "katysails"
wrote:

In the spirit of friendship I offer this primer to the ng:
Scout, Haggie, Scotty, Loco,NoPony (steve), Doug are all Chesapeake and
surrounding areas sailors; Maxprop, John Cairns, myself and Horvath are
Great Lakes sailors (and Lonny when he has time to sail...)'; Bart I
believe
is in Connecticut or Massachusetts somewhere. I can't remember where
Jeff's
homeport is..but he sails Florida sometimes. Neal sits on a can in the
swampland surrounding the Bay of Florida; Bobsprit/BB sails in the matrix;
Jax is lost somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle; Thom is up by the Columbia
River in Oregon, which is also Michael's homeport when he's not on some
ship
somewhere that we can't mention; Mike and Lady Sailor live in CA but sail
Mexico, OZ and Taddy (Tadpole) and Peter Wiley are from various ports in
Australia; Nav (MC) is from New Zealand; Edgar's home port was in England
but now he lives in Norway; stevie summers and wally and Donal are all
from
great Britain; Martin is from Canada as is Mooron. Gilligan and all his
sockpuppets live in Colorado. It is up to you to figure out who his
puppets
are.

Thank you for the clarifications. Very thoughtful of you to provide
that primer.
Myself, I sail on Lake Winnipsaukee which is in New Hampshire. I
should rephrase that. I try to sail. I'm am very much a rookie.
I've wanted to seriously learn how to sail for many years, but until
this past year circumstances prevented it. Now I am in my second
childhood and have the sailing bug quite seriously. I own my own small
boat and am enjoying learning about it and doing things to it to
improve it. I plan to eventually move it t the ocean for sailing
around the Maine islands. I have no current desire to sail around the
world as so many new to sailing seem to, just some coastal cruising in
waters somewhat known to me.

Again, thank you for the clarification.

"katysails" wrote in message ...
You're welcome. Don't let the flamers get to you here. Most of the
regulars have been here for years and years and years so we are all used to
it (I developed a thick hide like a walrus with lots of wrinkles after awhile...)

That explains it . . .

CN

"JG" wrote in message ...
Rick, I'm about to post a more complete one... I notice that Katy left me
out completely. I live in Northern California, and sail (mostly) on the SF
bay. And I'm gay!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Like putting a pup tent on a Ferrari.

CN


"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...

John Cairns wrote:
I could see something like this on my boat with the addition
of screens, to keep the bugs out.


http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...eid=jkrets0063


Thats how I started John, And it aint worth the investment!

They leak ,fall apart, are hard to fit, mold, rott ect. And did I say
leak?, because if I did not, i better say it again, they LEAK!!!

If you want a dry wheelhouse you have to go with a total hard top.
My pilot house can be removed with 6 bolts and an afternoon's work...
and be put on the dock.

My Wheelhouse is always DRY,COOL or WARM. Large clear hatch to
stargaze, Huge rool up Sunbrella canvas sides and stern hatch, the
windshield open forward for great air flow. Great all around
visibility. And since we live aboard this is allot of extra...
enjoyable.... living space.

Infact if you search google images for "RedCloud sailboat" you will see
the top I ended up tossing in a dumpster.

Mark my word! Don't do it!

Joe



http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51754322gXYAOI

John Cairns

Capt. Neal=AE wrote:
Like putting a pup tent on a Ferrari.

CN

Yeah, And they LEAK....
Then in a storm ect the steam from evaporation ect sweats up the
plastic and it's a miserable soggy,slick, dripping sauna with poor
visability....a danger zone. And when not in use easy to damage,
scratch up, rip,zipper wear out ect.... and it is hard store.

Joe







"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

John Cairns wrote:
I could see something like this on my boat with the addition
of screens, to keep the bugs out.



http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...d=3Djkrets0063


Thats how I started John, And it aint worth the investment!

They leak ,fall apart, are hard to fit, mold, rott ect. And did I
say
leak?, because if I did not, i better say it again, they LEAK!!!

If you want a dry wheelhouse you have to go with a total hard top.
My pilot house can be removed with 6 bolts and an afternoon's
work...
and be put on the dock.

My Wheelhouse is always DRY,COOL or WARM. Large clear hatch to
stargaze, Huge rool up Sunbrella canvas sides and stern hatch, the
windshield open forward for great air flow. Great all around
visibility. And since we live aboard this is allot of extra...
enjoyable.... living space.

Infact if you search google images for "RedCloud sailboat" you will
see
the top I ended up tossing in a dumpster.

Mark my word! Don't do it!

Joe



http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51754322gXYAOI
=20
John Cairns

That dripping 38 degree water sure makes it hard to enjoy.

If you do not have a dry comfy place to enjoy the view and pilot your
vessel.....it might make you think about this crazy thing those yankees
do, Shrink wrap your boat....Bwahahahahahah.

It was 64degrees new years night here. The fog has been thick all year
long...

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...

That dripping 38 degree water sure makes it hard to enjoy.

If you do not have a dry comfy place to enjoy the view and pilot your
vessel.....it might make you think about this crazy thing those yankees
do, Shrink wrap your boat....Bwahahahahahah.

It was 64degrees new years night here. The fog has been thick all year
long...

Joe

Be thankful that otnmbrd and Shen44 do not ply their trade in your
neck of the woods. They don't slow down and they don't use or even
know the proper sound signals for sailing in a fog. They'd as soon
as run you down than look at you . . .

CN

In busy traffic lanes like the Houston Ship channel ships underway are
not required to sound fog signals or slow down.

Ship channels are the commerence way of our world and should not be
hampered by pleasure vessels at any time.

Every vessel in the channel should check in with USCG traffic control
and should be aware of all other inbound and outbound traffic as
informed by traffic controllers. This aint the 1860's ya know. Let's
keep out of the way of people at work.

Joe

that's cause you're supposed to stay in your closet when we have
company.

Scotty


"JG" wrote in message
...
... I notice that Katy left me
out completely.

What boat do you own/sail? Where is L. Winni........?


ASA helpful Tip # 46 Don't ever turn your back on Jon Gaynz.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


Rick wrote in message
...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:38:23 GMT, "katysails"
wrote:

In the spirit of friendship I offer this primer to the ng:
Scout, Haggie, Scotty, Loco,NoPony (steve), Doug are all
Chesapeake and
surrounding areas sailors; Maxprop, John Cairns, myself and Horvath
are
Great Lakes sailors (and Lonny when he has time to sail...)'; Bart
I believe
is in Connecticut or Massachusetts somewhere. I can't remember
where Jeff's
homeport is..but he sails Florida sometimes. Neal sits on a can in
the
swampland surrounding the Bay of Florida; Bobsprit/BB sails in the
matrix;
Jax is lost somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle; Thom is up by the
Columbia
River in Oregon, which is also Michael's homeport when he's not on
some ship
somewhere that we can't mention; Mike and Lady Sailor live in CA
but sail
Mexico, OZ and Taddy (Tadpole) and Peter Wiley are from various
ports in
Australia; Nav (MC) is from New Zealand; Edgar's home port was in
England
but now he lives in Norway; stevie summers and wally and Donal are
all from
great Britain; Martin is from Canada as is Mooron. Gilligan and
all his
sockpuppets live in Colorado. It is up to you to figure out who
his puppets
are.

Thank you for the clarifications. Very thoughtful of you to provide
that primer.
Myself, I sail on Lake Winnipsaukee which is in New Hampshire. I
should rephrase that. I try to sail. I'm am very much a rookie.
I've wanted to seriously learn how to sail for many years, but until
this past year circumstances prevented it. Now I am in my second
childhood and have the sailing bug quite seriously. I own my own
small
boat and am enjoying learning about it and doing things to it to
improve it. I plan to eventually move it t the ocean for sailing
around the Maine islands. I have no current desire to sail around
the
world as so many new to sailing seem to, just some coastal cruising
in
waters somewhat known to me.

Again, thank you for the clarification.

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

John Cairns wrote:
I could see something like this on my boat with the addition
of screens, to keep the bugs out.


http://www.sailnet.com/collections/a...eid=jkrets0063


Thats how I started John, And it aint worth the investment!

They leak ,fall apart, are hard to fit, mold, rott ect. And did I say
leak?, because if I did not, i better say it again, they LEAK!!!

Yeah, they leak, but they keep you a lot dryer than no protection at all,
and I know how difficult they can be to fit.Coming back from San Sal we had
waves that would wash over the enclosure completely, but we still managed to
stay relatively dry. Also keeps you out of the sun, and with the type on the
Kaufman, the panel between the dodger and bimini can be removed, folding
down the bimini and removing the overhead and side screens leaves the
cockpit mostly open for nice days.

If you want a dry wheelhouse you have to go with a total hard top.
My pilot house can be removed with 6 bolts and an afternoon's work...
and be put on the dock.

Half a day would be a lot of time to spend removing the top, where do you
store it if you're going on an extended cruise? Once you get past the
initial expense, you should expect the canvas to last for at least 5 years
or so, if you've picked the right material. And one final thing, a hard
enclosure on my boat (28') would probably look awful.

My Wheelhouse is always DRY,COOL or WARM. Large clear hatch to
stargaze, Huge rool up Sunbrella canvas sides and stern hatch, the
windshield open forward for great air flow. Great all around
visibility. And since we live aboard this is allot of extra...
enjoyable.... living space.

Infact if you search google images for "RedCloud sailboat" you will see
the top I ended up tossing in a dumpster.

Mark my word! Don't do it!

No, I probably won't go for a full enclosure, too much $$$$$$$$$

John Cairns


Joe



http://community.webshots.com/photo/...51754322gXYAOI

John Cairns

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
that's cause you're supposed to stay in your closet when we have
company.

Scotty


"JG" wrote in message
...
... I notice that Katy left me
out completely.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
What boat do you own/sail? Where is L. Winni........?


ASA helpful Tip # 46 Don't ever turn your back on me.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_


Rick wrote in message
...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2005 22:38:23 GMT, "katysails"
wrote:

In the spirit of friendship I offer this primer to the ng:
Scout, Haggie, Scotty, Loco,NoPony (steve), Doug are all
Chesapeake and
surrounding areas sailors; Maxprop, John Cairns, myself and Horvath
are
Great Lakes sailors (and Lonny when he has time to sail...)'; Bart
I believe
is in Connecticut or Massachusetts somewhere. I can't remember
where Jeff's
homeport is..but he sails Florida sometimes. Neal sits on a can in
the
swampland surrounding the Bay of Florida; Bobsprit/BB sails in the
matrix;
Jax is lost somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle; Thom is up by the
Columbia
River in Oregon, which is also Michael's homeport when he's not on
some ship
somewhere that we can't mention; Mike and Lady Sailor live in CA
but sail
Mexico, OZ and Taddy (Tadpole) and Peter Wiley are from various
ports in
Australia; Nav (MC) is from New Zealand; Edgar's home port was in
England
but now he lives in Norway; stevie summers and wally and Donal are
all from
great Britain; Martin is from Canada as is Mooron. Gilligan and
all his
sockpuppets live in Colorado. It is up to you to figure out who
his puppets
are.

Thank you for the clarifications. Very thoughtful of you to provide
that primer.
Myself, I sail on Lake Winnipsaukee which is in New Hampshire. I
should rephrase that. I try to sail. I'm am very much a rookie.
I've wanted to seriously learn how to sail for many years, but until
this past year circumstances prevented it. Now I am in my second
childhood and have the sailing bug quite seriously. I own my own
small
boat and am enjoying learning about it and doing things to it to
improve it. I plan to eventually move it t the ocean for sailing
around the Maine islands. I have no current desire to sail around
the
world as so many new to sailing seem to, just some coastal cruising
in
waters somewhat known to me.

Again, thank you for the clarification.

"Scott Vernon wrote:
that's cause you're supposed to stay in your closet when we have
company.

rofl Too funny, Scott.

LP

"John Cairns" wrote;

Did you take your website to tell you how young you could have little girls
in different countries?

LP (just wondering)

"JG" wrote in message
...






"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
that's cause you're supposed to stay in your closet when we have
company.

Scotty


"JG" wrote in message
...
... I notice that Katy left me
out completely.

"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:py8Cd.32279$F25.12940@okepread07...

"John Cairns" wrote;

Did you take your website to tell you how young you could have little
girls in different countries?

LP (just wondering)


WTF? Generally, I can figure out what someone is trying to say, but this has
me stumped. Could you rephrase this statement?

John Cairns

katysails wrote:
... I can't remember where Jeff's
homeport is..but he sails Florida sometimes.

Boston! I live in Boston, like where the Constitution is. Or is that
the Constellation?

But you are correct that I've spent a lot of time in Florida. (In fact,
I just got back from a week there.)

Well, move to Mystic for Pete's sake so we can keep it all straight!

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:
... I can't remember where Jeff's homeport is..but he sails Florida
sometimes.

Boston! I live in Boston, like where the Constitution is. Or is that the
Constellation?

But you are correct that I've spent a lot of time in Florida. (In fact, I
just got back from a week there.)

My boat lives in a marina off the Mystic River. Does that count?

katysails wrote:
Well, move to Mystic for Pete's sake so we can keep it all straight!

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

katysails wrote:

... I can't remember where Jeff's homeport is..but he sails Florida
sometimes.

Boston! I live in Boston, like where the Constitution is. Or is that the
Constellation?

But you are correct that I've spent a lot of time in Florida. (In fact, I
just got back from a week there.)

Yep....

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
My boat lives in a marina off the Mystic River. Does that count?

katysails wrote:
Well, move to Mystic for Pete's sake so we can keep it all straight!

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

katysails wrote:

... I can't remember where Jeff's homeport is..but he sails Florida
sometimes.

Boston! I live in Boston, like where the Constitution is. Or is that
the Constellation?

But you are correct that I've spent a lot of time in Florida. (In fact,
I just got back from a week there.)