Sail Repair Tape
 

Does this product provide a good quality repair for
a 6 inch tear?
Should one have the tear repaired quickly by the sailmaker?

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no and yes
"John W. Bienko" wrote in message
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Does this product provide a good quality repair for
a 6 inch tear?
Should one have the tear repaired quickly by the sailmaker?

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I seem to recall reading somewhere that a particular glue was better than
tape. Does anyone recall that?

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"John W. Bienko" wrote in message
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Does this product provide a good quality repair for
a 6 inch tear?
Should one have the tear repaired quickly by the sailmaker?

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Contact cement is commonly used. sail tape or sail repair cloth (same stuff,
cut from the same rolls, just in different shapes) is easier to use.

5200 reportedly also works in a bind.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that a particular glue was better than
tape. Does anyone recall that?

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"John W. Bienko" wrote in message
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Does this product provide a good quality repair for
a 6 inch tear?
Should one have the tear repaired quickly by the sailmaker?

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Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___
q

yes, indeed, if I happen to be standing nearby, for that will put money in
my
pocket. My pocket is much more worthy of your money than your pocket.
[grin]


Jesus, now he's a sailmaker.....wonder when the book will be released?

I have been repairing sails/canvas for pin money for several years. most
people with torn sails/canvas don't have the capability to repair sails/canvas
themselves.

That was it... 5200. Obviously not something you can do quickly, but I heard
it was better than tape for the long term.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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Contact cement is commonly used. sail tape or sail repair cloth (same
stuff,
cut from the same rolls, just in different shapes) is easier to use.

5200 reportedly also works in a bind.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that a particular glue was better than
tape. Does anyone recall that?

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"John W. Bienko" wrote in message
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Does this product provide a good quality repair for
a 6 inch tear?
Should one have the tear repaired quickly by the sailmaker?

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Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_
Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___
q

Yup.. I wasn't thinking for an emergency. 5200 was what I was thinking.

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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:05:27 -0800, "JG" wrote:

I seem to recall reading somewhere that a particular glue was better than
tape. Does anyone recall that?

Usually, tape would be used for an emergency repair. You don't really have
to
wait for it to set, as you would with glue. It's also a lot easier to
apply.
Sails usually don't tear in mild conditions. I have used tape over small
holes
to keep them from getting bigger. Those patches get repaired permanently
in the
off season by the sailmaker. A lot depends on the type and location of the
damage. For instance, if a seam was coming apart due to thread failure, I
wouldn't wait very long to have the whole sail inspected, repaired
properly, or
replaced. The tape would just be to get me back to port.

BB

contact cement is ready to use in about ten minutes total. 5200 needs to set
upwards of 7 days.

sail repair tape/cloth works fine and holds for years without stitching.

Yup.. I wasn't thinking for an emergency. 5200 was what I was thinking.

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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:05:27 -0800, "JG" wrote:

I seem to recall reading somewhere that a particular glue was better than
tape. Does anyone recall that?

Usually, tape would be used for an emergency repair. You don't really have
to
wait for it to set, as you would with glue. It's also a lot easier to
apply.
Sails usually don't tear in mild conditions. I have used tape over small
holes
to keep them from getting bigger. Those patches get repaired permanently
in the
off season by the sailmaker. A lot depends on the type and location of the
damage. For instance, if a seam was coming apart due to thread failure, I
wouldn't wait very long to have the whole sail inspected, repaired
properly, or
replaced. The tape would just be to get me back to port.

BB

That was it... 5200. Obviously not something you can do quickly, but I heard
it was better than tape for the long term.

how long is long term? I have seen sail repair tape/cloth hold for more than 5
years. I have used it myself on my own sails for that long without problem
(the sails plain worn out without the repair tape/cloth giving up).

5200 does work, however, for repairing inflatable dinghies. make certain you
let it set long enough before inflating.

Ditto, I've taped a few 4'' cuts , with the intent to sew them later,
and it's lasted 3 seasons.

SV

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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Does this product provide a good quality repair for
a 6 inch tear?

yes indeed. I have had such patches work for years without any
stitching at
all.

Should one have the tear repaired quickly by the sailmaker?

yes, indeed, if I happen to be standing nearby, for that will put
money in my
pocket. My pocket is much more worthy of your money than your
pocket. [grin]

I believe you. I read about the 5200 being tested as stronger.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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contact cement is ready to use in about ten minutes total. 5200 needs to
set
upwards of 7 days.

sail repair tape/cloth works fine and holds for years without stitching.

Yup.. I wasn't thinking for an emergency. 5200 was what I was thinking.

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www.sailnow.com

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On Sun, 19 Dec 2004 15:05:27 -0800, "JG" wrote:

I seem to recall reading somewhere that a particular glue was better
than
tape. Does anyone recall that?

Usually, tape would be used for an emergency repair. You don't really
have
to
wait for it to set, as you would with glue. It's also a lot easier to
apply.
Sails usually don't tear in mild conditions. I have used tape over small
holes
to keep them from getting bigger. Those patches get repaired permanently
in the
off season by the sailmaker. A lot depends on the type and location of
the
damage. For instance, if a seam was coming apart due to thread failure,
I
wouldn't wait very long to have the whole sail inspected, repaired
properly, or
replaced. The tape would just be to get me back to port.

BB

I don't know. I'm trying to find the article.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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That was it... 5200. Obviously not something you can do quickly, but I
heard
it was better than tape for the long term.

how long is long term? I have seen sail repair tape/cloth hold for more
than 5
years. I have used it myself on my own sails for that long without
problem
(the sails plain worn out without the repair tape/cloth giving up).

5200 does work, however, for repairing inflatable dinghies. make certain
you
let it set long enough before inflating.

I saw in rbc where you own a Sailrite machine. How do you like it?
Which model do you have? Do you have the 'electronic control' ? The
heavy flywheel? e-mail me if you want.

Scotty


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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yes, indeed, if I happen to be standing nearby, for that will put
money in
my
pocket. My pocket is much more worthy of your money than your
pocket.
[grin]


Jesus, now he's a sailmaker.....wonder when the book will be
released?

I have been repairing sails/canvas for pin money for several years.
most
people with torn sails/canvas don't have the capability to repair
sails/canvas
themselves.

JG, 5200 is a stronger adhesive than contact cement, but a.) the extra strength
is of no use because the contact cement patch lasts as you wish to use the
sail, and b.) 5200 leaves a serious hard spot in your sail.

Don't worry about it. sail repair tape/cloth works fine and works for years.

I don't know. I'm trying to find the article.

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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That was it... 5200. Obviously not something you can do quickly, but I
heard
it was better than tape for the long term.

how long is long term? I have seen sail repair tape/cloth hold for more
than 5
years. I have used it myself on my own sails for that long without
problem
(the sails plain worn out without the repair tape/cloth giving up).

5200 does work, however, for repairing inflatable dinghies. make certain
you
let it set long enough before inflating.

I saw in rbc where you own a Sailrite machine. How do you like it?

It works as advertised. I can easily run upwards of ten layers of Sunbrella
under the foot. Above that, no room under the foot.

Which model do you have?

LSZ-1, the zig-zag model. I also have a Pelican 1550 case to store the machine
in (must remove the motor to store in a 1550 case)

Do you have the 'electronic control' ?

No, I have the older control, what was available at the time.

The
heavy flywheel?

Yes.

btw, I also own a Pfaff 130. The Sailrite is a better machine hands down for
sail/canvas work.

JAXAshby wrote in message
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JG, 5200 is a stronger adhesive than contact cement, but a.) the extra
strength
is of no use because the contact cement patch lasts as you wish to use the
sail, and b.) 5200 leaves a serious hard spot in your sail.

Don't worry about it. sail repair tape/cloth works fine and works for
years.

I have had a roll of sail tape for some years and have never used it so it
is clearly past its best now anyway. But the snag is that the instructions
say that the sail must be dry before using the tape. If you get a torn sail
how often is it going to be dry when you urgently want it back in service?

"Edgar" wrote

I have had a roll of sail tape for some years and have never used it
so it
is clearly past its best now anyway. But the snag is that the
instructions
say that the sail must be dry before using the tape. If you get a
torn sail
how often is it going to be dry when you urgently want it back in
service?


50% of the time.

SV

Scott Vernon wrote in message
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"Edgar" wrote
If you get a
torn sail
how often is it going to be dry when you urgently want it back in
service?


50% of the time.

I don't think so. If a well maintained sail tears it tends to be at sea in
very bad weather and if you can wait till you get back to the dock to let it
dry you need a sailmaker to make a proper repair not repair tape.

I don't think so. If a well maintained sail tears it tends to be at sea
in
very bad weather and if you can wait till you get back to the dock to let
it
dry you need a sailmaker to make a proper repair not repair tape.

How often would you find a sailmaker while at sea in very bad weather?

I kept he tape ashore for repairing the likes of chair seats etc. On board
my sail repair kit was a large piece of sailcloth, needles, twine and a palm
for urgent repairs, but my sails were serviced by their makers every year
and i never had to use it in any serious manner.

The trick is to have an adequate sail inventory which will allow you
to take the sail below, rinse and dry the effected area, repair and
then put it back into service if required.

Fully agree about the inventory, but as to rinsing and drying the affected
area on board during or after bad conditions i can only say that you have
probably got a better chance of doing this in your climate in Oz than where
i sail.

The great advantage of sail tape, applied to both sides of a tear is
that it will hold the cloth togetherexactly as it should be while it's
stitched thru for a perfect fix either at the time or later when that
sail is no longer in urgent use.

I can see that this could be useful if you can get the tape to stick...

edgar baby, you don't have a clew. you really should go sailing sometime. it
is loads of fun, AND you will learn something about the sport. try it, dood.

From: "Edgar"
Date: 12/20/2004 5:12 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:


I don't think so. If a well maintained sail tears it tends to be at sea
in
very bad weather and if you can wait till you get back to the dock to let
it
dry you need a sailmaker to make a proper repair not repair tape.

How often would you find a sailmaker while at sea in very bad weather?

I kept he tape ashore for repairing the likes of chair seats etc. On board
my sail repair kit was a large piece of sailcloth, needles, twine and a palm
for urgent repairs, but my sails were serviced by their makers every year
and i never had to use it in any serious manner.

The trick is to have an adequate sail inventory which will allow you
to take the sail below, rinse and dry the effected area, repair and
then put it back into service if required.

Fully agree about the inventory, but as to rinsing and drying the affected
area on board during or after bad conditions i can only say that you have
probably got a better chance of doing this in your climate in Oz than where
i sail.

The great advantage of sail tape, applied to both sides of a tear is
that it will hold the cloth togetherexactly as it should be while it's
stitched thru for a perfect fix either at the time or later when that
sail is no longer in urgent use.

I can see that this could be useful if you can get the tape to stick...

Why would anyone want Bob to be there uncle???? SO they can ahve a "funny"
uncle???

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 23:12:24 +0100, "Edgar"
scribbled thusly:



I can see that this could be useful if you can get the tape to stick...

That's easy.
Pour metho over the whole area, pat dry, leave a couple of minutes for
remainder to evaporate and Bob's your uncle..

Sail can be rehoisted immediately.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

JAXAshby wrote in message
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edgar baby, you don't have a clew. you really should go sailing sometime.
it
is loads of fun, AND you will learn something about the sport. try it,
dood.

Can you refer me to the title of your definitive book on the subject? Just
so I can see if I have missed out on anything...

JAXAshby wrote in message
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The most likely tear is from catching something, such as a spreader tip.

Your spreader tips should have protectors on them to avoid this.
The most likely tear is at the inner end of the sail batten pockets

btw, why do you say that a "proper" repair is one made by a sailmaker?
Sail
repair tape/cloth works immediately and lasts for years. How can a repair
made
by a sailmaker next week be more "proper"? (not that I mind taking your
money,
you understand)

Try selling a yacht whose sails are all stuck together with bits of tape
and you will understand.

like I said, edgee's, you really should get out and actually DO some sailing.
It really is lots of fun. as it is now, you don't have a clew.

From: "Edgar"
Date: 12/21/2004 8:50 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:


JAXAshby wrote in message
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The most likely tear is from catching something, such as a spreader tip.

Your spreader tips should have protectors on them to avoid this.
The most likely tear is at the inner end of the sail batten pockets

btw, why do you say that a "proper" repair is one made by a sailmaker?
Sail
repair tape/cloth works immediately and lasts for years. How can a repair
made
by a sailmaker next week be more "proper"? (not that I mind taking your
money,
you understand)

Try selling a yacht whose sails are all stuck together with bits of tape
and you will understand.

"Edgar" wrote
If you get a
torn sail
how often is it going to be dry when you urgently want it back
in
service?


50% of the time.

I don't think so.

Well, you asked, and I answered.


If a well maintained sail tears it tends to be at sea in
very bad weather and if you can wait till you get back to the dock
to let it
dry you need a sailmaker to make a proper repair not repair tape.

I forget where you are (sail) Edgar, but around the Bay and a lot of
'non blue water', sails commonly get torn from catching on something
( anchor on deck, nail in dock piling, Rambo knife being tossed
around, etc. )
Where a sail tape patch works just fine. hopefully sewing it at the
end of the season while sails are off and at home.

Scotty