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katysails wrote:


Maybe not earthshakingly pretty, but certainly not ugly...so she looks
like a normal human being...why should that make anyone sick?


She was a free spirit. I admire her and wonder what she could have become
or how she might have chnaged the world if she had not been lost.

Cheers


Bwahahahhahahahaha. She was an early example of the art of celebrity
making. Celebrated as the first female to fly across the Atlantic, she
was dismayed to discover that the actual pilots were completely ignored
by the media, she herself was merely a passenger on the plane.
Nonetheless, she continued on her career path, hubris contributing to her
not so untimely disappearance. She wasn't a particularily good flyer, not
even a good female flyer, merely a well publicized one.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/

As you can see, it's still a money making enterprise.

John Cairns


I'm sure it is. Do you really think she accomplished nothing?

Cheers


Depends on your take on the importance of heroic figures in modern society.
For the most part, Earhart merely became the first woman to accomplish this
or that aviation milestone.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/about/achievements.html

As you might notice from the list, only four of the milestones were actual
firsts, three of these were dubious achievements, the first person to fly
solo between Mexico City and Newark, for example. I think even she would
admit that her celebrity was much greater than her talent as an aviator. I
firmly believe that if she had not disappeared in such a spectacular fashion
she would have been largely forgotten by now. At the time she was a
superstar, the US government spent four million in 1937 searching for her.
Her greatest accomplishment was becoming a semi-mythical figure.

John Cairns

John Cairns

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katysails wrote:



Maybe not earthshakingly pretty, but certainly not ugly...so she looks
like a normal human being...why should that make anyone sick?


She was a free spirit. I admire her and wonder what she could have become
or how she might have chnaged the world if she had not been lost.

Cheers


Bwahahahhahahahaha. She was an early example of the art of celebrity
making. Celebrated as the first female to fly across the Atlantic, she
was dismayed to discover that the actual pilots were completely ignored
by the media, she herself was merely a passenger on the plane.
Nonetheless, she continued on her career path, hubris contributing to her
not so untimely disappearance. She wasn't a particularily good flyer, not
even a good female flyer, merely a well publicized one.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/

As you can see, it's still a money making enterprise.

John Cairns


I'm sure it is. Do you really think she accomplished nothing?

Cheers



Depends on your take on the importance of heroic figures in modern society.
For the most part, Earhart merely became the first woman to accomplish this
or that aviation milestone.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/about/achievements.html

As you might notice from the list, only four of the milestones were actual
firsts, three of these were dubious achievements, the first person to fly
solo between Mexico City and Newark, for example. I think even she would
admit that her celebrity was much greater than her talent as an aviator. I
firmly believe that if she had not disappeared in such a spectacular fashion
she would have been largely forgotten by now. At the time she was a
superstar, the US government spent four million in 1937 searching for her.
Her greatest accomplishment was becoming a semi-mythical figure.


Well there's nothing like death to make a saint. But, was she not an
role model for women?

Cheers

You sound jelious John,

I think Amelias success is to be measured not so much by the position
that she had reached in life as by the obstacles which she had to
overcome while trying to succeed.

Joe

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katysails wrote:



Maybe not earthshakingly pretty, but certainly not ugly...so she looks
like a normal human being...why should that make anyone sick?


She was a free spirit. I admire her and wonder what she could have
become or how she might have chnaged the world if she had not been
lost.

Cheers


Bwahahahhahahahaha. She was an early example of the art of celebrity
making. Celebrated as the first female to fly across the Atlantic, she
was dismayed to discover that the actual pilots were completely ignored
by the media, she herself was merely a passenger on the plane.
Nonetheless, she continued on her career path, hubris contributing to
her not so untimely disappearance. She wasn't a particularily good
flyer, not even a good female flyer, merely a well publicized one.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/

As you can see, it's still a money making enterprise.

John Cairns


I'm sure it is. Do you really think she accomplished nothing?

Cheers



Depends on your take on the importance of heroic figures in modern
society. For the most part, Earhart merely became the first woman to
accomplish this or that aviation milestone.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/about/achievements.html

As you might notice from the list, only four of the milestones were
actual firsts, three of these were dubious achievements, the first person
to fly solo between Mexico City and Newark, for example. I think even she
would admit that her celebrity was much greater than her talent as an
aviator. I firmly believe that if she had not disappeared in such a
spectacular fashion she would have been largely forgotten by now. At the
time she was a superstar, the US government spent four million in 1937
searching for her. Her greatest accomplishment was becoming a
semi-mythical figure.


Well there's nothing like death to make a saint. But, was she not an role
model for women?

Cheers


I think I said as much. But was she an important role model for women?
Probably not, not even big enough to make a Time Magazine list of the most
important figures of the 20th century. I would think a contemporary of hers,
Eleanor Roosevelt, was a much more prominent role model. You have to
remember that there were quite a few "famous" female aviators at the time,
though none as celebrated as Earhart.

John Cairns

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katysails wrote:




Maybe not earthshakingly pretty, but certainly not ugly...so she looks
like a normal human being...why should that make anyone sick?


She was a free spirit. I admire her and wonder what she could have
become or how she might have chnaged the world if she had not been
lost.

Cheers


Bwahahahhahahahaha. She was an early example of the art of celebrity
making. Celebrated as the first female to fly across the Atlantic, she
was dismayed to discover that the actual pilots were completely ignored
by the media, she herself was merely a passenger on the plane.
Nonetheless, she continued on her career path, hubris contributing to
her not so untimely disappearance. She wasn't a particularily good
flyer, not even a good female flyer, merely a well publicized one.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/

As you can see, it's still a money making enterprise.

John Cairns


I'm sure it is. Do you really think she accomplished nothing?

Cheers



Depends on your take on the importance of heroic figures in modern
society. For the most part, Earhart merely became the first woman to
accomplish this or that aviation milestone.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/about/achievements.html

As you might notice from the list, only four of the milestones were
actual firsts, three of these were dubious achievements, the first person
to fly solo between Mexico City and Newark, for example. I think even she
would admit that her celebrity was much greater than her talent as an
aviator. I firmly believe that if she had not disappeared in such a
spectacular fashion she would have been largely forgotten by now. At the
time she was a superstar, the US government spent four million in 1937
searching for her. Her greatest accomplishment was becoming a
semi-mythical figure.


Well there's nothing like death to make a saint. But, was she not an role
model for women?

Cheers



I think I said as much. But was she an important role model for women?
Probably not, not even big enough to make a Time Magazine list of the most
important figures of the 20th century. I would think a contemporary of hers,
Eleanor Roosevelt, was a much more prominent role model. You have to
remember that there were quite a few "famous" female aviators at the time,
though none as celebrated as Earhart.


Was she not an inspiration for Eleanor Roosevelt too?

Cheers

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You sound jelious John,

I think Amelias success is to be measured not so much by the position
that she had reached in life as by the obstacles which she had to
overcome while trying to succeed.

Joe


I'm just one of those folks that doesn't automatically buy the party line.
The achievement that propelled her to the forefront was a publicity stunt,
she was chosen and promoted as "Lady Lindy" by a talented newspaper editor
on the heels of the enormous celebrity that attached itself to Lindbergh,
merely for being a passenger on a trans-Atlantic flight! Might envy wealth,
but never celebrity, and I'm never one to assume that celebrity is based on
merit or achievement. You have to remember that it was much easier to invent
and manage celebrity in the early 20th century than it is today, the stunt
that brought her into the limelight would have been considered laughable
today.

John Cairns

She was of the same age as Beryl Markham and Karen Von Blixen...there were
many women in her era who did marvelous things...

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katysails wrote:

Maybe not earthshakingly pretty, but certainly not ugly...so she looks
like a normal human being...why should that make anyone sick?


She was a free spirit. I admire her and wonder what she could have become
or how she might have chnaged the world if she had not been lost.

Cheers

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Amelia Ehrhardt makes you sick?

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On 12 Dec 2004 07:50:11 -0800, "Joe" wrote
this crap:


Thats not her picture. Who told you that?
I found this real picture of lady pilot.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...28_amelia2.jpg
She's hot!


GAG! I almost puked looking at that pic. I'm definitely going to the
strip club tonight, just to get that image out of my mind.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!


C'mon Katy, you've seen enough pictures of her to know that she wasn't
pretty.

http://members.aol.com/robinjoan3/aeimage/aeimage.htm

John Cairns

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katysails wrote:




Maybe not earthshakingly pretty, but certainly not ugly...so she
looks like a normal human being...why should that make anyone sick?


She was a free spirit. I admire her and wonder what she could have
become or how she might have chnaged the world if she had not been
lost.

Cheers


Bwahahahhahahahaha. She was an early example of the art of celebrity
making. Celebrated as the first female to fly across the Atlantic, she
was dismayed to discover that the actual pilots were completely
ignored by the media, she herself was merely a passenger on the plane.
Nonetheless, she continued on her career path, hubris contributing to
her not so untimely disappearance. She wasn't a particularily good
flyer, not even a good female flyer, merely a well publicized one.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/

As you can see, it's still a money making enterprise.

John Cairns


I'm sure it is. Do you really think she accomplished nothing?

Cheers



Depends on your take on the importance of heroic figures in modern
society. For the most part, Earhart merely became the first woman to
accomplish this or that aviation milestone.

http://www.ameliaearhart.com/about/achievements.html

As you might notice from the list, only four of the milestones were
actual firsts, three of these were dubious achievements, the first
person to fly solo between Mexico City and Newark, for example. I think
even she would admit that her celebrity was much greater than her talent
as an aviator. I firmly believe that if she had not disappeared in such
a spectacular fashion she would have been largely forgotten by now. At
the time she was a superstar, the US government spent four million in
1937 searching for her. Her greatest accomplishment was becoming a
semi-mythical figure.


Well there's nothing like death to make a saint. But, was she not an role
model for women?

Cheers



I think I said as much. But was she an important role model for women?
Probably not, not even big enough to make a Time Magazine list of the
most important figures of the 20th century. I would think a contemporary
of hers, Eleanor Roosevelt, was a much more prominent role model. You
have to remember that there were quite a few "famous" female aviators at
the time, though none as celebrated as Earhart.

Was she not an inspiration for Eleanor Roosevelt too?

Cheers


Hah, you got me there. I'm sure if you google Eleanor and Amelia you might
find a reference to Eleanor calling her an inspriration or something along
those lines, but do I honestly think that this was what ER really thought?
No. I think if you had asked ER for her take on the ten most influential
women of her time, AE would not be on that list.

John Cairns

On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 03:09:45 GMT, "John Cairns"
wrote this crap:


Depends on your take on the importance of heroic figures in modern society.
For the most part, Earhart merely became the first woman to accomplish this
or that aviation milestone.



Was she related to Dale Earhart, the famous race car pilot?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

John Cairns wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

You sound jelious John,

I think Amelias success is to be measured not so much by the position
that she had reached in life as by the obstacles which she had to
overcome while trying to succeed.

Joe



I'm just one of those folks that doesn't automatically buy the party line.
The achievement that propelled her to the forefront was a publicity stunt,
she was chosen and promoted as "Lady Lindy" by a talented newspaper editor
on the heels of the enormous celebrity that attached itself to Lindbergh,
merely for being a passenger on a trans-Atlantic flight! Might envy wealth,
but never celebrity, and I'm never one to assume that celebrity is based on
merit or achievement. You have to remember that it was much easier to invent
and manage celebrity in the early 20th century than it is today, the stunt
that brought her into the limelight would have been considered laughable
today.


How about the first solo flight across the pacific?

Cheers