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Nav December 6th 04 01:49 AM

It is amazing
 
But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers


Jonathan Ganz December 6th 04 02:01 AM

I've been sailing several days this last week. I have no need to post about
it every time.
Besides, CN doesn't sail.

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"Nav" wrote in message
...
But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers




John Cairns December 6th 04 02:03 AM


"Nav" wrote in message
...
But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers


Well, lets examine this. Some of Nil's recent posts:

Make Gaynz angry.
Bobsprit=Mr.Mom
Less than 36 hours.
Good movie
OT-Go Dolphins

In case you haven't noticed, most of the posts here aren't sailing themed,
at best someone might drag sailing into a thread.

John Cairns



Nav December 6th 04 02:14 AM



John Cairns wrote:
"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers



Well, lets examine this. Some of Nil's recent posts:

Make Gaynz angry.
Bobsprit=Mr.Mom
Less than 36 hours.
Good movie
OT-Go Dolphins

In case you haven't noticed, most of the posts here aren't sailing themed,
at best someone might drag sailing into a thread.


At least he talks about sailiung and started a sailing thread with picures.

Cheers





Jonathan Ganz December 6th 04 02:25 AM

Yeh, of his notebook computer.

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www.sailnow.com

"Nav" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:
"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers



Well, lets examine this. Some of Nil's recent posts:

Make Gaynz angry.
Bobsprit=Mr.Mom
Less than 36 hours.
Good movie
OT-Go Dolphins

In case you haven't noticed, most of the posts here aren't sailing
themed, at best someone might drag sailing into a thread.


At least he talks about sailiung and started a sailing thread with
picures.

Cheers







John Cairns December 6th 04 02:27 AM


"Nav" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:
"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers



Well, lets examine this. Some of Nil's recent posts:

Make Gaynz angry.
Bobsprit=Mr.Mom
Less than 36 hours.
Good movie
OT-Go Dolphins

In case you haven't noticed, most of the posts here aren't sailing
themed, at best someone might drag sailing into a thread.


At least he talks about sailiung and started a sailing thread with
picures.

Cheers


Hell, he preaches about sailing, badly for the most part. He posted those
pics up then drifted into dementia, talking about sailing around Cape Horn
in that old tub. There is so much filler here I can't even find his original
post. In any event, I will give him credit for starting some very long
threads, but the bottom line is, they are trolls, most of them aren't
sailing related. Even Bob posted more sailing related stuff, even if it was
mostly about his boat. Come to think of it, nil posts mostly about his own
tub.

John Cairns



Overproof December 6th 04 02:33 AM

I have to agree with Nav on this... ever since Capt Neal arrived.. I've
noticed an increase in sailing related posts.

Not Like I'm helping the situation of course... just pointing to the facts
as I see them.

I do try and make an effort ... but really... everything from guns aboard to
halyard tension has been covered in detail several times over. It's like
re-reading a 1995 edition of Cruising World ... sometimes... you just can't
bother to reply.

CM


"Nav" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:
"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers



Well, lets examine this. Some of Nil's recent posts:

Make Gaynz angry.
Bobsprit=Mr.Mom
Less than 36 hours.
Good movie
OT-Go Dolphins

In case you haven't noticed, most of the posts here aren't sailing
themed, at best someone might drag sailing into a thread.


At least he talks about sailiung and started a sailing thread with
picures.

Cheers







Capt. Neal® December 6th 04 02:48 AM



I could write about many sailing topics related to living aboard and
cruising for long periods of time.

Topics such as provisioning a small boat, caring for a pet who requires
special prescription food, using Photoshop and a cheap printer to produce
various legal documents that fool the authorities, anchoring in all
conditions so as not to drag and to get a good night's sleep even when
the wind is howling, having the tools, spares and smarts to fix any
mechanical problem that might arise underway, balancing the helm by
trimming sails so they assist the tiller, generating all the electrical
power that is needed by using the sun, surviving hurricanes and
tropical storms, catching supper with a Hawaiian sling, etc, but who
here other than me cruises.?

It seems to me this group is a haven for day sailors, trailer sailers,
motor boaters, over the hill commercial captains, psychotic left
coasters, Long Island Sound homers, round the buoy Saturday
afternoon club racers, housewives, and strip club frequenters.

What interest would such as these have in the techniques learned
over long years of living aboard and cruising?

CN




"Overproof" wrote in message news:GxPsd.323357$9b.104842@edtnps84...
I have to agree with Nav on this... ever since Capt Neal arrived.. I've
noticed an increase in sailing related posts.

Not Like I'm helping the situation of course... just pointing to the facts
as I see them.

I do try and make an effort ... but really... everything from guns aboard to
halyard tension has been covered in detail several times over. It's like
re-reading a 1995 edition of Cruising World ... sometimes... you just can't
bother to reply.

CM


"Nav" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:
"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers



Well, lets examine this. Some of Nil's recent posts:

Make Gaynz angry.
Bobsprit=Mr.Mom
Less than 36 hours.
Good movie
OT-Go Dolphins

In case you haven't noticed, most of the posts here aren't sailing
themed, at best someone might drag sailing into a thread.


At least he talks about sailiung and started a sailing thread with
picures.

Cheers







Capt. Neal® December 6th 04 03:30 AM

Peter Wiley has just proved my point.

Is it any wonder there is a dearth of sailing related posts
here?

CN


"Peter Wiley" wrote in message . ..
In article , Capt. NealĘ
wrote:

I could write about many sailing topics related to living aboard and
cruising for long periods of time.

Topics such as provisioning a small boat,


No of days at sea / 2 = required no of slabs of beer. Plus spirits to
taste.

caring for a pet who requires
special prescription food,


A 22LR injected to the back of the cranium......

using Photoshop and a cheap printer to produce
various legal documents that fool the authorities,


.... or having the wit, skill and time to get the real ones instead of
committing forgery.

anchoring in all
conditions so as not to drag and to get a good night's sleep even when
the wind is howling, having the tools, spares and smarts to fix any
mechanical problem that might arise underway


Not difficult for you, all you need is a tube of Sikaflex and a handful
of sheetmetal screws, that'd be within your limited abilities.....

, balancing the helm by
trimming sails so they assist the tiller,


BFD, my daysailer does that now I added a 'sprit.

generating all the electrical
power that is needed by using the sun, surviving hurricanes and
tropical storms,


AKA being somewhere else.....

catching supper with a Hawaiian sling,


Oh wow! Such expertise, it must have taken you untold years to master
that one.

etc, but who
here other than me cruises.?

It seems to me this group is a haven for day sailors, trailer sailers,
motor boaters, over the hill commercial captains, psychotic left
coasters, Long Island Sound homers, round the buoy Saturday
afternoon club racers, housewives, and strip club frequenters.

What interest would such as these have in the techniques learned
over long years of living aboard and cruising?


You could give Blobby tips on dumpster diving.

PDW



Peter Wiley December 6th 04 03:31 AM

In article , Capt. NealĘ
wrote:

I could write about many sailing topics related to living aboard and
cruising for long periods of time.

Topics such as provisioning a small boat,


No of days at sea / 2 = required no of slabs of beer. Plus spirits to
taste.

caring for a pet who requires
special prescription food,


A 22LR injected to the back of the cranium......

using Photoshop and a cheap printer to produce
various legal documents that fool the authorities,


..... or having the wit, skill and time to get the real ones instead of
committing forgery.

anchoring in all
conditions so as not to drag and to get a good night's sleep even when
the wind is howling, having the tools, spares and smarts to fix any
mechanical problem that might arise underway


Not difficult for you, all you need is a tube of Sikaflex and a handful
of sheetmetal screws, that'd be within your limited abilities.....

, balancing the helm by
trimming sails so they assist the tiller,


BFD, my daysailer does that now I added a 'sprit.

generating all the electrical
power that is needed by using the sun, surviving hurricanes and
tropical storms,


AKA being somewhere else.....

catching supper with a Hawaiian sling,


Oh wow! Such expertise, it must have taken you untold years to master
that one.

etc, but who
here other than me cruises.?

It seems to me this group is a haven for day sailors, trailer sailers,
motor boaters, over the hill commercial captains, psychotic left
coasters, Long Island Sound homers, round the buoy Saturday
afternoon club racers, housewives, and strip club frequenters.

What interest would such as these have in the techniques learned
over long years of living aboard and cruising?


You could give Blobby tips on dumpster diving.

PDW

katysails December 6th 04 04:13 AM

It hurts too much to talk about it when your boat is sitting on her cradle,
freezing to death, and there's another ice storm on the way....(at least
that's what they just said on the weather report...)

"Nav" wrote in message
...
But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers




Peter Wiley December 6th 04 05:33 AM

Sorry, Crappy. I was sailing half of Saturday and half of yesterday.
Daysailing admittedly, but still sailing. What were you doing? Posting
to n/gs while swinging round your mooring.

Never mind. In 2 weeks I'll be cruising for 10 weeks while you're still
swinging on your mooring.

PDW

In article , Capt. Neal®
wrote:

Peter Wiley has just proved my point.

Is it any wonder there is a dearth of sailing related posts
here?

CN


"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Capt. NealĘ
wrote:

I could write about many sailing topics related to living aboard and
cruising for long periods of time.

Topics such as provisioning a small boat,


No of days at sea / 2 = required no of slabs of beer. Plus spirits to
taste.

caring for a pet who requires
special prescription food,


A 22LR injected to the back of the cranium......

using Photoshop and a cheap printer to produce
various legal documents that fool the authorities,


.... or having the wit, skill and time to get the real ones instead of
committing forgery.

anchoring in all
conditions so as not to drag and to get a good night's sleep even when
the wind is howling, having the tools, spares and smarts to fix any
mechanical problem that might arise underway


Not difficult for you, all you need is a tube of Sikaflex and a handful
of sheetmetal screws, that'd be within your limited abilities.....

, balancing the helm by
trimming sails so they assist the tiller,


BFD, my daysailer does that now I added a 'sprit.

generating all the electrical
power that is needed by using the sun, surviving hurricanes and
tropical storms,


AKA being somewhere else.....

catching supper with a Hawaiian sling,


Oh wow! Such expertise, it must have taken you untold years to master
that one.

etc, but who
here other than me cruises.?

It seems to me this group is a haven for day sailors, trailer sailers,
motor boaters, over the hill commercial captains, psychotic left
coasters, Long Island Sound homers, round the buoy Saturday
afternoon club racers, housewives, and strip club frequenters.

What interest would such as these have in the techniques learned
over long years of living aboard and cruising?


You could give Blobby tips on dumpster diving.

PDW



Peter Wiley December 6th 04 06:04 AM

Two days of weather between 20-25C, warm (ish) water and a good breeze.
Getting off the lee shore sans power was interesting but once we
escaped into enough water to get the c/b down, it was a lotta fun. Only
thing we forgot was the 6-pack of Coopers Dark Ale, but there was
plenty in the refrigerator when we got back.

ATM I get to sail every day or 2, before or after work depending on the
tide & wind. Ice storms? What are they? It's T shirt weather with long
sunny days and cool nights.

PDW

In article ,
katysails wrote:

It hurts too much to talk about it when your boat is sitting on her cradle,
freezing to death, and there's another ice storm on the way....(at least
that's what they just said on the weather report...)

"Nav" wrote in message
...
But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers




Jonathan Ganz December 6th 04 06:23 AM

Feel free to leave any time you want.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...


I could write about many sailing topics related to living aboard and
cruising for long periods of time.

Topics such as provisioning a small boat, caring for a pet who requires
special prescription food, using Photoshop and a cheap printer to produce
various legal documents that fool the authorities, anchoring in all
conditions so as not to drag and to get a good night's sleep even when
the wind is howling, having the tools, spares and smarts to fix any
mechanical problem that might arise underway, balancing the helm by
trimming sails so they assist the tiller, generating all the electrical
power that is needed by using the sun, surviving hurricanes and
tropical storms, catching supper with a Hawaiian sling, etc, but who
here other than me cruises.?

It seems to me this group is a haven for day sailors, trailer sailers,
motor boaters, over the hill commercial captains, psychotic left
coasters, Long Island Sound homers, round the buoy Saturday
afternoon club racers, housewives, and strip club frequenters.

What interest would such as these have in the techniques learned
over long years of living aboard and cruising?

CN




"Overproof" wrote in message
news:GxPsd.323357$9b.104842@edtnps84...
I have to agree with Nav on this... ever since Capt Neal arrived.. I've
noticed an increase in sailing related posts.

Not Like I'm helping the situation of course... just pointing to the
facts
as I see them.

I do try and make an effort ... but really... everything from guns aboard
to
halyard tension has been covered in detail several times over. It's like
re-reading a 1995 edition of Cruising World ... sometimes... you just
can't
bother to reply.

CM


"Nav" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:
"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers



Well, lets examine this. Some of Nil's recent posts:

Make Gaynz angry.
Bobsprit=Mr.Mom
Less than 36 hours.
Good movie
OT-Go Dolphins

In case you haven't noticed, most of the posts here aren't sailing
themed, at best someone might drag sailing into a thread.


At least he talks about sailiung and started a sailing thread with
picures.

Cheers









Jonathan Ganz December 6th 04 06:23 AM

All you post is about yourself, which is about as far from sailing as
someone who lives in a floating closet can get.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Peter Wiley has just proved my point.

Is it any wonder there is a dearth of sailing related posts
here?

CN


"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Capt. NealĘ
wrote:

I could write about many sailing topics related to living aboard and
cruising for long periods of time.

Topics such as provisioning a small boat,


No of days at sea / 2 = required no of slabs of beer. Plus spirits to
taste.

caring for a pet who requires
special prescription food,


A 22LR injected to the back of the cranium......

using Photoshop and a cheap printer to produce
various legal documents that fool the authorities,


.... or having the wit, skill and time to get the real ones instead of
committing forgery.

anchoring in all
conditions so as not to drag and to get a good night's sleep even when
the wind is howling, having the tools, spares and smarts to fix any
mechanical problem that might arise underway


Not difficult for you, all you need is a tube of Sikaflex and a handful
of sheetmetal screws, that'd be within your limited abilities.....

, balancing the helm by
trimming sails so they assist the tiller,


BFD, my daysailer does that now I added a 'sprit.

generating all the electrical
power that is needed by using the sun, surviving hurricanes and
tropical storms,


AKA being somewhere else.....

catching supper with a Hawaiian sling,


Oh wow! Such expertise, it must have taken you untold years to master
that one.

etc, but who
here other than me cruises.?

It seems to me this group is a haven for day sailors, trailer sailers,
motor boaters, over the hill commercial captains, psychotic left
coasters, Long Island Sound homers, round the buoy Saturday
afternoon club racers, housewives, and strip club frequenters.

What interest would such as these have in the techniques learned
over long years of living aboard and cruising?


You could give Blobby tips on dumpster diving.

PDW





Scout December 6th 04 10:31 AM

I'm sailboatless for the near future. In the meantime, I'm counting on this
bunch of desperados, ne'er-do-wells, fabricators, curmudgeons, hypocrites,
liars, neurotics, psychotics, alcoholics, malcontents, and well, in other
words, sailors, to help me feel like I'm still at sea.
Scout

"Nav" wrote in message
...
But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers




Scout December 6th 04 10:33 AM

It's your mission to help others dream of what could be?
Scout

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...


I could write about many sailing topics related to living aboard and
cruising for long periods of time.

Topics such as provisioning a small boat, caring for a pet who requires
special prescription food, using Photoshop and a cheap printer to produce
various legal documents that fool the authorities, anchoring in all
conditions so as not to drag and to get a good night's sleep even when
the wind is howling, having the tools, spares and smarts to fix any
mechanical problem that might arise underway, balancing the helm by
trimming sails so they assist the tiller, generating all the electrical
power that is needed by using the sun, surviving hurricanes and
tropical storms, catching supper with a Hawaiian sling, etc, but who
here other than me cruises.?

It seems to me this group is a haven for day sailors, trailer sailers,
motor boaters, over the hill commercial captains, psychotic left
coasters, Long Island Sound homers, round the buoy Saturday
afternoon club racers, housewives, and strip club frequenters.

What interest would such as these have in the techniques learned
over long years of living aboard and cruising?

CN




"Overproof" wrote in message
news:GxPsd.323357$9b.104842@edtnps84...
I have to agree with Nav on this... ever since Capt Neal arrived.. I've
noticed an increase in sailing related posts.

Not Like I'm helping the situation of course... just pointing to the
facts
as I see them.

I do try and make an effort ... but really... everything from guns aboard
to
halyard tension has been covered in detail several times over. It's like
re-reading a 1995 edition of Cruising World ... sometimes... you just
can't
bother to reply.

CM


"Nav" wrote in message
...


John Cairns wrote:
"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers



Well, lets examine this. Some of Nil's recent posts:

Make Gaynz angry.
Bobsprit=Mr.Mom
Less than 36 hours.
Good movie
OT-Go Dolphins

In case you haven't noticed, most of the posts here aren't sailing
themed, at best someone might drag sailing into a thread.


At least he talks about sailiung and started a sailing thread with
picures.

Cheers









Peter Wiley December 6th 04 11:06 AM

There are seafaring folk, and there are those shoreside *******s.
That's the important distinction.

PDW

In article
, Scout
wrote:

I'm sailboatless for the near future. In the meantime, I'm counting on this
bunch of desperados, ne'er-do-wells, fabricators, curmudgeons, hypocrites,
liars, neurotics, psychotics, alcoholics, malcontents, and well, in other
words, sailors, to help me feel like I'm still at sea.
Scout

"Nav" wrote in message
...
But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers




Horvath December 6th 04 12:14 PM

On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:31:09 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

I'm sailboatless for the near future. In the meantime, I'm counting on this
bunch of desperados, ne'er-do-wells, fabricators, curmudgeons, hypocrites,
liars, neurotics, psychotics, alcoholics, malcontents, and well, in other
words, sailors, to help me feel like I'm still at sea.



Are you in for a big disappointment.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Scott Vernon December 6th 04 01:39 PM

Season's over, here.

Scotty

"Nav" wrote in message
...
But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers




DSK December 6th 04 01:39 PM

Scout wrote:
I'm sailboatless for the near future. In the meantime, I'm counting on this
bunch of desperados, ne'er-do-wells, fabricators, curmudgeons, hypocrites,
liars, neurotics, psychotics, alcoholics, malcontents, and well, in other
words, sailors, to help me feel like I'm still at sea.


It's not really sailing, but I spent a few hours this weekend on a
sailboat helping a friend with his electrical system.

Transaltion- I spent far too long standing on my head futzing with the
connections on his batteries, which were sloppy, corroded, and loose. He
said "I'm sure that's not the problem" but oddly enough, when I had
cleaned, No-Ox'ed, and tightened everything, we could not duplicate his
earlier problem.

Go figure.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Jonathan Ganz December 6th 04 06:01 PM

So were your parents.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 10:31:09 GMT, "Scout"
wrote this crap:

I'm sailboatless for the near future. In the meantime, I'm counting on
this
bunch of desperados, ne'er-do-wells, fabricators, curmudgeons, hypocrites,
liars, neurotics, psychotics, alcoholics, malcontents, and well, in other
words, sailors, to help me feel like I'm still at sea.



Are you in for a big disappointment.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




John W. Bienko December 7th 04 12:28 AM


I recently spent a few wonderful days in Hawai`i..
sailing around Oahu in a catamaran,, very exciting and fast.
I visited the Waikiki Yacht Club several times.. the
place was vacant.. only maintenance and office staff there.
800 boats in the harbour.. only one boat had a person
working on the rigging.
The Ona Ona just arrived from Tahiti.. with the owner and
paid crew.. a captain, a crewmember and the cook.
The crew were sudsing down and rinsing the hull, stem to stern.
and had dumped hundreds of deck shoes onto the dock for airing.
The ship was magnificent with sail storage inside the mast.
ONly 7 sailboats participated in the Friday evening races..
some rainclouds threatening the windward mark.
I did see the powerboat on which Natalie Wood drowned in
Avalon on the Island of Santa Catalina.. it was meticulously
maintained.. the teak brightwood sparkling.
Here in Canada the ground is frozen.. the first snow has
fallen.. the temperature is -9 C.

I do envy the sailors who can still sail their boats.

--
Longing to be closer to to the sun, the wind and the sea!
Spiritually at: Latitude 21 degrees 19' 9" North. _!_
Longtitude 157 degrees 56' 31" West. Aloha! ___o_(_)_o___
q

Nav December 7th 04 12:43 AM

I forgive you.

Cheers

Scout wrote:

I'm sailboatless for the near future. In the meantime, I'm counting on this
bunch of desperados, ne'er-do-wells, fabricators, curmudgeons, hypocrites,
liars, neurotics, psychotics, alcoholics, malcontents, and well, in other
words, sailors, to help me feel like I'm still at sea.
Scout

"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers






Nav December 7th 04 12:49 AM

Move.

Cheers

Scott Vernon wrote:

Season's over, here.

Scotty

"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers






Scout December 7th 04 10:54 AM

Divine!

"Nav" wrote in message
...
I forgive you.

Cheers

Scout wrote:

I'm sailboatless for the near future. In the meantime, I'm counting on
this bunch of desperados, ne'er-do-wells, fabricators, curmudgeons,
hypocrites, liars, neurotics, psychotics, alcoholics, malcontents, and
well, in other words, sailors, to help me feel like I'm still at sea.
Scout

"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers








Jonathan G anz December 7th 04 05:55 PM

That's Gilligan.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scout" wrote in message
...
Divine!

"Nav" wrote in message
...
I forgive you.

Cheers

Scout wrote:

I'm sailboatless for the near future. In the meantime, I'm counting on
this bunch of desperados, ne'er-do-wells, fabricators, curmudgeons,
hypocrites, liars, neurotics, psychotics, alcoholics, malcontents, and
well, in other words, sailors, to help me feel like I'm still at sea.
Scout

"Nav" wrote in message
...

But the only people talking about sailing these days are CN and MC.

Call yourselves sailors?

Cheers











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