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Captain Neal's fifty dollar cabin heater
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What's wrong with using one or two of these?
http://www.epinions.com/hmgd-Large_A...ay_~full_specs Did you know those propane bottles can be refilled from the larger 35 pound bottles? The Good Lord will always welcome you, Neal, to the Pearly Gates but don't leave too soon, it's God's work to smash liberalism. Amen! Bob Crantz "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN |
Interesting, but you might want to fix the typos.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN |
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What typos? "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Interesting, but you might want to fix the typos. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN |
I looked at those but they just don't look nautical nor, can you place
a teapot on top of them for some hot toddies. Not only that but one would be tripping over them or they would be catching the ships cat on fire. They would be nice in the mountains in a tent for manly men like Gilligan but for sailors they don't cut the mustard. CN "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ink.net... What's wrong with using one or two of these? http://www.epinions.com/hmgd-Large_A...ay_~full_specs Did you know those propane bottles can be refilled from the larger 35 pound bottles? The Good Lord will always welcome you, Neal, to the Pearly Gates but don't leave too soon, it's God's work to smash liberalism. Amen! Bob Crantz "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN |
Do you really think you'r cat would get that close? Perhaps for suicide...
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... I looked at those but they just don't look nautical nor, can you place a teapot on top of them for some hot toddies. Not only that but one would be tripping over them or they would be catching the ships cat on fire. They would be nice in the mountains in a tent for manly men like Gilligan but for sailors they don't cut the mustard. CN "Bob Crantz" wrote in message ink.net... What's wrong with using one or two of these? http://www.epinions.com/hmgd-Large_A...ay_~full_specs Did you know those propane bottles can be refilled from the larger 35 pound bottles? The Good Lord will always welcome you, Neal, to the Pearly Gates but don't leave too soon, it's God's work to smash liberalism. Amen! Bob Crantz "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN |
The ones you fixed.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... What typos? "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... Interesting, but you might want to fix the typos. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN |
Check it out, folks:
http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN even cheaper, and same dangerous heat, is a Coleman propane lantern also from K-Mart |
''It is intended as a light-duty heater in latitudes where winter
temperatures sometimes get down in the fifties'' You need heat in the 50s? Sheesh! SV "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN |
It's nice to take the chill out of the air on those winter nights.
Since I sleep naked and spend most of the daylight hours naked it also is nice during the daytime on those chilly winter days. Please keep the above information quiet or LP will be all over me. (not to mention Ganz) CN "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... ''It is intended as a light-duty heater in latitudes where winter temperatures sometimes get down in the fifties'' You need heat in the 50s? Sheesh! SV "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote: snip Please keep the above information quiet or LP will be all over me. (not to mention Ganz) CN It's very unlike you, good Capt Neal, to utter such a rash comment. -- Flying Tadpole ------------------------- Learn what lies below the waves of cyberspace! ===Now with Vocals!!===(it'll be singing next!) http://music.download.com/internetopera and other music at http://www.soundclick.com/flyingtadpolemusic.htm |
Capt. Neal® wrote in message ...
Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN Looks ok. However I would of visited the local metal shop and purchaced copper sheeting. I would apply nice hand hammered finish that Stickley would be proud of. And for a source of flame I would convert an old brass welding torch from the 1920's, you can find many at local antique shops for 20-30 dollars. You can find vertical burners that were used for heating soldering irons. You can get fuel anywhere on earth unlike your coleman bottles that leave rust stains on everything. Otherwise it's a fine looking salty design. Well done Joe |
I like the idea of some copper on my heater. I'll look
around. A few bands of hammered copper would look really nautical and would help conduct the heat. I a thinking of using copper tubing and attaching five or six, vertical, [ shaped guards to keep from burning myself on the very slim chance I should have one too many rums and find myself staggering about like Ole Thom. A little polishing of the guards with Never Dull would keep them looking spiffy and make a good contrast to the polished stainless steal. As for using old welders, sorry but we sensible GRP yachtsmen don't need to carry that crap on board like you steel bum boaters. GRP is forever unlike steel where large areas must be periodically cut out with a torch and new steel welded back in to immediately start rusting all over again. CN "Joe" wrote in message m... Capt. Neal® wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN Looks ok. However I would of visited the local metal shop and purchaced copper sheeting. I would apply nice hand hammered finish that Stickley would be proud of. And for a source of flame I would convert an old brass welding torch from the 1920's, you can find many at local antique shops for 20-30 dollars. You can find vertical burners that were used for heating soldering irons. You can get fuel anywhere on earth unlike your coleman bottles that leave rust stains on everything. Otherwise it's a fine looking salty design. Well done Joe |
A very nice job!!! Looks great.
A question: How much running time do you get out a cylinder of gas? Ole Thom |
Thank you, sir.
I'll have to let you know as it hasn't gotten cold enough to use for an extended period. I suspect it will go for a couple nights use on low. CN "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... A very nice job!!! Looks great. A question: How much running time do you get out a cylinder of gas? Ole Thom |
Capt. Neal® wrote in message ...
I like the idea of some copper on my heater. I'll look around. A few bands of hammered copper would look really nautical and would help conduct the heat. I a thinking of using copper tubing and attaching five or six, vertical, [ shaped guards to keep from burning myself Good ideal, but your superior heat sink system should suffice. on the very slim chance I should have one too many rums and find myself staggering about like Ole Thom. Yeah right slim chance A little polishing of the guards with Never Dull would keep them looking spiffy and make a good contrast to the polished stainless steal. Let them go green. Its saltier and better for the item. Patina is a highly valued sign of quality. As for using old welders, sorry but we sensible GRP yachtsmen don't need to carry that crap on board like you steel bum boaters. Well then the GRPer motto should be first to fail. If you use a proper torch like this one for your flame http://darkknight.moostores.com/cata...ges/torch2.jpg You could use most any type of fuel found anywhere on earth. I know thats important to a cruiser like you. Plus they look great and when properly burned they are clean and efficient. A good torch will last as long as your coleman tank only pumping it up 2-3 times. The one in the picture is assembled in-correctly BTW. GRP is forever unlike steel where large areas must be periodically cut out with a torch and new steel welded back in to immediately start rusting all over again. GRP blisters, fades, chips, scratches, cracks, spiderwebs, osomosis, rotts, splinters, delaminates, burns, and crunches easy. Joe CN "Joe" wrote in message m... Capt. Neal® wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN Looks ok. However I would of visited the local metal shop and purchaced copper sheeting. I would apply nice hand hammered finish that Stickley would be proud of. And for a source of flame I would convert an old brass welding torch from the 1920's, you can find many at local antique shops for 20-30 dollars. You can find vertical burners that were used for heating soldering irons. You can get fuel anywhere on earth unlike your coleman bottles that leave rust stains on everything. Otherwise it's a fine looking salty design. Well done Joe |
Capt. Neal® wrote in message ...
I like the idea of some copper on my heater. I'll look around. A few bands of hammered copper would look really nautical and would help conduct the heat. I a thinking of using copper tubing and attaching five or six, vertical, [ shaped guards to keep from burning myself on the very slim chance I should have one too many rums and find myself staggering about like Ole Thom. Slime chance....yeah right A little polishing of the guards with Never Dull would keep them looking spiffy and make a good contrast to the polished stainless steal. Lubber....Let it go green and develope a rich fine valued patina. As for using old welders, sorry but we sensible GRP yachtsmen don't need to carry that crap on board like you steel bum boaters. http://darkknight.moostores.com/cata...ges/torch2.jpg Perfect burner..Looks Great..Burns most any fuel...Pump up charge... The one in the pic is assembled in-correctly BTW. GRP is forever unlike steel where large areas must be periodically cut out with a torch and new steel welded back in to immediately start rusting all over again. Plastic(GRP) chips, cracks, rotts, seperates, splinters, blisters, scratches, fades,itches, sucks, and is expensive to repair, and easy to crunch. Joe CN "Joe" wrote in message m... Capt. Neal® wrote in message ... Check it out, folks: http://captneal.homestead.com/cabinheater.html CN Looks ok. However I would of visited the local metal shop and purchaced copper sheeting. I would apply nice hand hammered finish that Stickley would be proud of. And for a source of flame I would convert an old brass welding torch from the 1920's, you can find many at local antique shops for 20-30 dollars. You can find vertical burners that were used for heating soldering irons. You can get fuel anywhere on earth unlike your coleman bottles that leave rust stains on everything. Otherwise it's a fine looking salty design. Well done Joe |
About 2 hours until the CO renders you unconscious.
Cheeres Thom Stewart wrote: A very nice job!!! Looks great. A question: How much running time do you get out a cylinder of gas? Ole Thom |
Dear Captain, Are you planning to kill yourself? To heat the cabin with
exhaust fumes from a propane burner is very dangerous. I can honestly say that even your most vociferous detractors would not wish to depart the earth in this way. Cheers MC Capt. Neal® wrote: Thank you, sir. I'll have to let you know as it hasn't gotten cold enough to use for an extended period. I suspect it will go for a couple nights use on low. CN "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... A very nice job!!! Looks great. A question: How much running time do you get out a cylinder of gas? Ole Thom |
"Joe" wrote in message om... If you use a proper torch like this one for your flame http://darkknight.moostores.com/cata...ges/torch2.jpg You could use most any type of fuel found anywhere on earth. I know thats important to a cruiser like you. Plus they look great and when properly burned they are clean and efficient. A good torch will last as long as your coleman tank only pumping it up 2-3 times. The one in the picture is assembled in-correctly BTW. That's a nice torch but can it burn propane? It is important to have a nice, clean-burning flame since the heater is not vented to the outside of the cabin. A nice layer of black soot might be beneficial to keep a steel boat from rusting but it is unsightly and unnecessary in a fine GRP vessel such as mine. CN |
You need to read the disclaimer on the web page.
I clearly stated the cabin heater needed to be used in a ventilated cabin. Do you die of asphyxiation or CO poisoning when you fire up your cook stove or oven for an hour or two. No, because you let air into the cabin or the cabin is not a sealed space by virtue of slightly open or loose-fitting hatch boards, etc. There is a nice cowl vent/dorade right over my head which supplies me with a good flow of fresh air when I'm sleeping. The stove is safe as long as this is open. CN "Nav" wrote in message ... Dear Captain, Are you planning to kill yourself? To heat the cabin with exhaust fumes from a propane burner is very dangerous. I can honestly say that even your most vociferous detractors would not wish to depart the earth in this way. Cheers MC Capt. Neal® wrote: Thank you, sir. I'll have to let you know as it hasn't gotten cold enough to use for an extended period. I suspect it will go for a couple nights use on low. CN "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... A very nice job!!! Looks great. A question: How much running time do you get out a cylinder of gas? Ole Thom |
I'll have to let you know as it hasn't gotten cold enough to use
for an extended period. I suspect it will go for a couple nights use on low. ah, it will run on low the same length of time a Coleman propane stove will run on low. If I remember correctly, a Coleman propane lantern will run about 4 hours on a cylinder. (and produce one hell of a lot of moisture) |
Capt. Neal® wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message om... If you use a proper torch like this one for your flame http://darkknight.moostores.com/cata...ges/torch2.jpg You could use most any type of fuel found anywhere on earth. I know thats important to a cruiser like you. Plus they look great and when properly burned they are clean and efficient. A good torch will last as long as your coleman tank only pumping it up 2-3 times. The one in the picture is assembled in-correctly BTW. That's a nice torch but can it burn propane? It is important to have a nice, clean-burning flame since the heater is not vented to the outside of the cabin. Most burn Kerosene. If properly used the throte of the torch becomes so hot the kerosene is vaporized as it enters the flame. It is a very clean burn, no soot at all. In the picture of the torch you will see a pre heater tub that is suppose to be under the torch not the valves, it is filled with fuel to preheat the burner. This type torch has been used for close to 100 years. As I stated before you can get ones with vertical flames that would work perfect for your heater. As others have stated your coleman tank will last 4 hours IF your lucky. Better run to wally world and stock up. A nice layer of black soot might be beneficial to keep a steel boat from rusting but it is unsightly and unnecessary in a fine GRP vessel such as mine. Inside my fine english steel vessel you see no steel at all. Only fine Phillipino mahogony, Tan swede cushions, and fine vintage WWII issue Chelsea instruments from the battleship Oklahoma hanging on the bulkheads mixed with antique fine art. I have a favored print of the river Thames warfes dated 1830. When I bought RedCloud I stripped the interior Epoxied all the steel re-wired all the boat, all new state of the art lighting including side lite fiberoptics and LED lighitng put in 2 inches of insulation then Mahogany. For the shower and head I used grp sheeting like you see in many fine resturants. Joe CN |
"Joe" wrote in message om... That's a nice torch but can it burn propane? It is important to have a nice, clean-burning flame since the heater is not vented to the outside of the cabin. Most burn Kerosene. If properly used the throte of the torch becomes so hot the kerosene is vaporized as it enters the flame. It is a very clean burn, no soot at all. In the picture of the torch you will see a pre heater tub that is suppose to be under the torch not the valves, it is filled with fuel to preheat the burner. This type torch has been used for close to 100 years. As I stated before you can get ones with vertical flames that would work perfect for your heater. As others have stated your coleman tank will last 4 hours IF your lucky. If I recall, those old-style torches are gawdawful noisy. I recall the one my dear departed dad used to melt lead. It roared enough to wake up the dead. I doubt one could get a decent night's sleep listening to that racket. My little heater will run longer than four hours - guaranteed. I've already run it two hours on low for testing and the bottle is only a little lighter than a new one. I use the same bottles on my Force 10 barbeque and even with the much larger burner the barbeque lasts about 8 hours before it needs a new bottle. I'm guessing two or three nights on low heat per propane bottle which amounts to less than a buck a night for a nice warm cabin. But, I'll let you skeptics know when we get a cold front. None so far to speak of. Today's it's in the mid 80's with warm southerly winds. Supposed to be some sort of little front coming on Thanksgiving but no significant temperature drop associated with it. Inside my fine english steel vessel you see no steel at all. Only fine Phillipino mahogony, Tan swede cushions, and fine vintage WWII issue Chelsea instruments from the battleship Oklahoma hanging on the bulkheads mixed with antique fine art. I have a favored print of the river Thames warfes dated 1830. When I bought RedCloud I stripped the interior Epoxied all the steel re-wired all the boat, all new state of the art lighting including side lite fiberoptics and LED lighitng put in 2 inches of insulation then Mahogany. For the shower and head I used grp sheeting like you see in many fine resturants. Sounds very spiffy. It's always nice to hear about fine vessels of which the owner is proud and happy enough to keep and sail for extended periods of time. This is indicative of a satisfied man, real sailor and a fine vessel. Note the difference between your situation and that of the great pretender, Bobsprit, who has purchased a string of lackluster, unsuitable vessels only to attempt to get rid of them soon after he discovers they aren't capable of impressing his friends, let alone being suitable for cruising and living aboard comfortably. It's a shame. People such as you myself, Ole Thom, Mooron, Navigator, and even Gilligan, if ever he should trade a mountain cabin in for a sea level cruising yacht, personify the true meaning of sailing. You even have me beat in a couple of areas one of which is your most excellent crew. Steel boat or not, you are to be commended. Wishing you and Miss Terry a fine Thanksgiving day. Respectfully, Capt. Neal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
Capt. Neal® wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message om... That's a nice torch but can it burn propane? It is important to have a nice, clean-burning flame since the heater is not vented to the outside of the cabin. Most burn Kerosene. If properly used the throte of the torch becomes so hot the kerosene is vaporized as it enters the flame. It is a very clean burn, no soot at all. In the picture of the torch you will see a pre heater tub that is suppose to be under the torch not the valves, it is filled with fuel to preheat the burner. This type torch has been used for close to 100 years. As I stated before you can get ones with vertical flames that would work perfect for your heater. As others have stated your coleman tank will last 4 hours IF your lucky. If I recall, those old-style torches are gawdawful noisy. I recall the one my dear departed dad used to melt lead. It roared enough to wake up the dead. I doubt one could get a decent night's sleep listening to that racket. What? No way, they can be as quiet as a mouse. My little heater will run longer than four hours - guaranteed. I've already run it two hours on low for testing and the bottle is only a little lighter than a new one. I use the same bottles on my Force 10 barbeque and even with the much larger burner the barbeque lasts about 8 hours before it needs a new bottle. My magma grill uses them as well, Im lucky to get 3 sets of ribeyes out of a bottle, That 45 min burn time. I'm guessing two or three nights on low heat per propane bottle which amounts to less than a buck a night for a nice warm cabin. But, I'll let you skeptics know when we get a cold front. None so far to speak of. Today's it's in the mid 80's with warm southerly winds. Supposed to be some sort of little front coming on Thanksgiving but no significant temperature drop associated with it. Its a pretty rowdy front headin your way, we will get all the way down to 45 tonight, will have to drag out an extra quilt. Inside my fine english steel vessel you see no steel at all. Only fine Phillipino mahogony, Tan swede cushions, and fine vintage WWII issue Chelsea instruments from the battleship Oklahoma hanging on the bulkheads mixed with antique fine art. I have a favored print of the river Thames warfes dated 1830. When I bought RedCloud I stripped the interior Epoxied all the steel re-wired all the boat, all new state of the art lighting including side lite fiberoptics and LED lighitng put in 2 inches of insulation then Mahogany. For the shower and head I used grp sheeting like you see in many fine resturants. Sounds very spiffy. It's always nice to hear about fine vessels of which the owner is proud and happy enough to keep and sail for extended periods of time. This is indicative of a satisfied man, real sailor and a fine vessel. Indeed I love my boat it is perfect and will last a lifetime. Note the difference between your situation and that of the great pretender, Bobsprit, who has purchased a string of lackluster, unsuitable vessels only to attempt to get rid of them soon after he discovers they aren't capable of impressing his friends, let alone being suitable for cruising and living aboard comfortably. It's a shame. A sad shame indeed that his wifes boat is just another stepping stone for him to cast aside. People such as you myself, Ole Thom, Mooron, Navigator, and even Gilligan, if ever he should trade a mountain cabin in for a sea level cruising yacht, personify the true meaning of sailing. You even have me beat in a couple of areas one of which is your most excellent crew. Steel boat or not, you are to be commended. Thank you Capt. You have a fine Thanksgiving as well. Us American have much to be thankful for. Joe & Miss Terry Wishing you and Miss Terry a fine Thanksgiving day. Respectfully, Capt. Neal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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