Research shows that many diseases can be cured - not just suppressed but
cured using your own stem cells - but how to get enough to do the job? The
answer is to strip a cell - say a frog egg of its DNA, replace it with yours
and do a little well proven medical hocus pocus and the cell begins to
divide and redivide into *your* stem cells - cells that can repair damaged
tissues to cure diabetes, parkinsons, et al. Why aren't we pursueing this?
Because the religious right thinks it is wrong and they control enough US
politicians to prevent it happening in the USA. Thank goodness the rest of
the world disagrees.



NITED NATIONS, Nov. 19 - Faced with polarizing division in the 191-member
General Assembly, the United States on Friday abandoned its aggressively
pursued attempt to obtain a United Nations treaty banning all human cloning,
including that done in the name of medical research.

The outcome - an agreement to come up with a nonbinding declaration against
cloning to reproduce humans - fell far short of the American goal and
represented a setback for President Bush. He called for a worldwide ban on
all cloning when he addressed the United Nations General Assembly in August,
and he made limiting stem cell and other related research an issue in his
presidential campaign.

Let's talk facts . . .

Bush fails again? Bwahahahahahha. It wasn't the
President who lost the 2000 and 2004 elections.
Where are you living? The land of Oz?

The current state of affairs with respect to stem cell
research has nothing to do with the so-called religious
right. Only liberal bigots think such weird thoughts.

It's all about economics. For your information the best
source of adult stem cells in from adipose tissue (fat)
which most Americans have in abundance. The best
way to cure ourselves is to use our own stem cells
for the job, not killing fetuses.

There is no ban on private research into stem cells to
fight and cure disease. There is a govt. ban on spending
tax dollars on fetal stem cell research but only on new
lines of fetal cells which would be gotten by destroying
fetuses. (murdering babies).

There is no government ban on spending tax money on
existing lines of fetal stem cell research. As a matter
of fact, President Bush has signed appropriations
larger than his predecessor on fetal stem cell research
on existing lines.

Idiots like John Edwards who claimed if it weren't
for George W. Bush, cripple people would be getting
out of their wheelchairs and walking are just that -
IDIOTS.

There is no research to date on ANY kind of stem cells
that shows broken spinal cords can be fused back together
and made wholly functional again.

Stop being so damned gullible and ignorant.

CN



"Vito" wrote in message ...
Research shows that many diseases can be cured - not just suppressed but
cured using your own stem cells - but how to get enough to do the job? The
answer is to strip a cell - say a frog egg of its DNA, replace it with yours
and do a little well proven medical hocus pocus and the cell begins to
divide and redivide into *your* stem cells - cells that can repair damaged
tissues to cure diabetes, parkinsons, et al. Why aren't we pursueing this?
Because the religious right thinks it is wrong and they control enough US
politicians to prevent it happening in the USA. Thank goodness the rest of
the world disagrees.



NITED NATIONS, Nov. 19 - Faced with polarizing division in the 191-member
General Assembly, the United States on Friday abandoned its aggressively
pursued attempt to obtain a United Nations treaty banning all human cloning,
including that done in the name of medical research.

The outcome - an agreement to come up with a nonbinding declaration against
cloning to reproduce humans - fell far short of the American goal and
represented a setback for President Bush. He called for a worldwide ban on
all cloning when he addressed the United Nations General Assembly in August,
and he made limiting stem cell and other related research an issue in his
presidential campaign.

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Let's talk facts . . .

Bush fails again? Bwahahahahahha. It wasn't the
President who lost the 2000 and 2004 elections.
Where are you living? The land of Oz?

Bush wasn't elected the first time. He was chosen by the Supreme Court.

The current state of affairs with respect to stem cell
research has nothing to do with the so-called religious
right. Only liberal bigots think such weird thoughts.

Absolutely does. Their view is that anything that could possibly, in some
remote corner of the universe, where the laws of physics and biology don't
apply, should be banned. They also believe that the Earth is only 6000 years
old, and that creationism is comparable to the theory of evolution.

It's all about economics. For your information the best
source of adult stem cells in from adipose tissue (fat)
which most Americans have in abundance. The best
way to cure ourselves is to use our own stem cells
for the job, not killing fetuses.

Like I said...

There is no ban on private research into stem cells to
fight and cure disease. There is a govt. ban on spending
tax dollars on fetal stem cell research but only on new
lines of fetal cells which would be gotten by destroying
fetuses. (murdering babies).

You need to have a better understanding of the issue before you open your
hole.

There is no government ban on spending tax money on
existing lines of fetal stem cell research. As a matter
of fact, President Bush has signed appropriations
larger than his predecessor on fetal stem cell research
on existing lines.

No, you're just an idiot.

Idiots like John Edwards who claimed if it weren't
for George W. Bush, cripple people would be getting
out of their wheelchairs and walking are just that -
IDIOTS.

There is no research to date on ANY kind of stem cells
that shows broken spinal cords can be fused back together
and made wholly functional again.

To date, there's every indication that stem cells can do wonderous things.
But, according to your logic, if something doesn't work now, it will never
work.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...

Bush wasn't elected the first time. He was chosen by the Supreme Court.

Wrong! Yet another tired, incorrect liberal saw use to
keep from having to admit defeat.

The FACT is the electoral college of the United States of
America elected George W. Bush. The Supreme court simply
advised the supreme court of Florida - a liberal bunch like
your ninth circuit court of appeals - that they errored in
their writing election law from the bench and that the
certified election results from Florida would stand.


The current state of affairs with respect to stem cell
research has nothing to do with the so-called religious
right. Only liberal bigots think such weird thoughts.

Absolutely does. Their view is that anything that could possibly, in some
remote corner of the universe, where the laws of physics and biology don't
apply, should be banned. They also believe that the Earth is only 6000 years
old, and that creationism is comparable to the theory of evolution.

Your OPINION! A few believe that nonsense but many have
a more enlightened view. At any rate they do not control the
government purse strings.

Like I said...

You haven't said squat. Glip rejoinders don't an argument
make.


There is no ban on private research into stem cells to
fight and cure disease. There is a govt. ban on spending
tax dollars on fetal stem cell research but only on new
lines of fetal cells which would be gotten by destroying
fetuses. (murdering babies).

You need to have a better understanding of the issue before you open your
hole.

It is clear I understand it way, way better than you dol


There is no government ban on spending tax money on
existing lines of fetal stem cell research. As a matter
of fact, President Bush has signed appropriations
larger than his predecessor on fetal stem cell research
on existing lines.

No, you're just an idiot.

Yes sir, another fine, reasoned argument. Typical liberal,
however, when all else fails resort to simple name calling
with no evidence to back it up.

Idiots like John Edwards who claimed if it weren't
for George W. Bush, cripple people would be getting
out of their wheelchairs and walking are just that -
IDIOTS.

There is no research to date on ANY kind of stem cells
that shows broken spinal cords can be fused back together
and made wholly functional again.

To date, there's every indication that stem cells can do wonderous things.
But, according to your logic, if something doesn't work now, it will never
work.

Not so, according to my logic, most Americans and their President
who they voted into office don't think it's right to spend tax dollars
killing babies. Praise the Lord for that victory of sanity over barbarism.

Pixie dust has been known to do wonderous things so does that
mean we should spend our tax dollars on it even if it is gotten
by killing babies?

CN

"Capt. Neal®" wrote


Idiots like John Edwards who claimed if it weren't
for George W. Bush, cripple people would be getting
out of their wheelchairs and walking are just that -
IDIOTS.

Apparently the majority of the country didn't fall for that BS. Only
gullible, idiot liberal cry babies like BBob ganz fell for it.




Stop being so damned gullible and ignorant.


he can't help it.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:35:32 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Let's talk facts . . .

Bush fails again? Bwahahahahahha. It wasn't the
President who lost the 2000 and 2004 elections.
Where are you living? The land of Oz?

Bush wasn't elected the first time. He was chosen by the Supreme Court.


That's a lie. The Supreme Court doesn't have that ability, Jon-boy.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:35:32 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Let's talk facts . . .

Bush fails again? Bwahahahahahha. It wasn't the
President who lost the 2000 and 2004 elections.
Where are you living? The land of Oz?

Bush wasn't elected the first time. He was chosen by the Supreme Court.


I'm gay.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Unlike the ignorant truck-driver types who lapped it up.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
"Capt. Neal®" wrote


Idiots like John Edwards who claimed if it weren't
for George W. Bush, cripple people would be getting
out of their wheelchairs and walking are just that -
IDIOTS.

Apparently the majority of the country didn't fall for that BS. Only
gullible, idiot liberal cry babies like BBob ganz fell for it.




Stop being so damned gullible and ignorant.


he can't help it.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 19:21:53 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

I'm gay.


Shut up.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Capt. Neal®" wrote

The current state of affairs with respect to stem cell
research has nothing to do with the so-called religious right.

Oh BS. That's a bald face lie and you know it.


It's all about economics. For your information the best
source of adult stem cells in from adipose tissue (fat)
which most Americans have in abundance. The best
way to cure ourselves is to use our own stem cells
for the job, not killing fetuses.

Wrong again! There are not enough stem cells in the fat to be useful. Fact
is the best way to grow my stem cells is to begin a clone - on that will
never become anything but a blob of stem cells.


There is no ban on private research into stem cells to
fight and cure disease. There is a govt. ban on spending
tax dollars on fetal stem cell research but only on new
lines of fetal cells which would be gotten by destroying
fetuses. (murdering babies).

Who says a cloned lump of stem cells is a baby? Why the nazis on the
religious right who still believe the world is flat. If a fetus is a baby
then a tadpole is a frog I ate 3 chickens for breakfast.

There is no government ban on spending tax money on
existing lines of fetal stem cell research.

Political smoke and mirrors to cover up J-freak interference in science.

There is no research to date on ANY kind of stem cells
that shows broken spinal cords can be fused back together
and made wholly functional again.

It's not about spinal cords - it is about diabetes and a dozen other
diseases.