Jon,

I gave an example of how I am being ripped off. Now let me give an
example of "Life in the Good Ole US of A" I just had my Flu Shot
Thursday, at my doctor's office, free of charge because of my age and
the drugs I take, which are immune suppressants including Mestinon. Your
government has given us top priority. That government Admin. by
G.W.Bush.

Ole Thom

In article ,
Thom Stewart wrote:
Jon,

I gave an example of how I am being ripped off. Now let me give an
example of "Life in the Good Ole US of A" I just had my Flu Shot
Thursday, at my doctor's office, free of charge because of my age and
the drugs I take, which are immune suppressants including Mestinon. Your
government has given us top priority. That government Admin. by
G.W.Bush.

Nice example. Glad you got your shot. Unfortunately, there are lots of
people in your situation that may not be able to get one free or
otherwise. Bush failed to think ahead (nothing new), and as a result,
some seniors have to wait in long lines. One woman died in line.

We spend something like 15% of GDP on healthcare in the US, but we
don't cover 41 million. Bush's "plan" would decrease that number by
about 2.5 million. Kerry's plan would decrease that number by about 27
million (not enough, but good progress). While Kerry's plan isn't
cheap, it would cover ALL children. I think that's the least we can do
for our citizens.





--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

that's my point. Is there anybody who deserves it more than Crazy
Charlie? It's costing us $$$ to keep him alive. He shoulda been
injected, then hung , shot and burned.

Scotty

"John Cairns" wrote in message
. com...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Why didn't they hang Charlie Manson?

Big difference, Charlie's never going to leave jail alive. AFAIK, he
did
receive the death penalty, the Supreme Court declared the death
penalty
unconstitutional, threw out the penalty. BTW, he would have gotten
the
chair, IIRC.
John Cairns

In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:
that's my point. Is there anybody who deserves it more than Crazy
Charlie? It's costing us $$$ to keep him alive. He shoulda been
injected, then hung , shot and burned.

I have no sympathy at all for Charlie. However, I don't support his
execution. Although, I have to say that in his case, he seems to be
enjoying his stay behind bars.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Thom, how often must you take a tablet?

Scotty

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Katie,

I, have a very different Mind set, having Myasthania Gravis. We
have
to take a drug called Mestinon. What I have to pay for a Hundred
tablets
($100.00) can be purchased overseas for ($8.00

When the Gov. held hearing and decided US drug manufactures were
over
charging and put a ceiling on the profiteering, the Drug companies
licensed companies outside the US to manufacture the drug. It is no
longer manufacture in this country.

We pay &100 and my web friend in Spain pays $8. Made by the same
company.

I know this isn't the Flu Vaccine and I'm sorry to be venting but it
is
kind of related

Ole Thom

NY is among safest cities on the world..

Yea, in parts of Manhattan. Anyplace else it's a hell hole.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

correction; ''rat infested hell hole''.


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
NY is among safest cities on the world..

Yea, in parts of Manhattan. Anyplace else it's a hell hole.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 29 Oct 2004 10:19:36 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

One of the problems with this debate is the absolute certainty on the part
of each side that no other position is morally defensible. As I've suggested
before, when there is such a gulf in beliefs, the best course is for the law
to stay out of the decision process, leaving such matters to other controls
such as individual conscience, the socialization process and religious
beliefs. People have come to ignore these non-legal restraints and insist
that their own views in such matters must in all cases be enforced by the
power of the state. Society is the poorer for it.

I would agree except that the states have a poor history of doing what
you suggest. Therefore, Federal action is required.

Again I ask, Jon--you think the State legislators will ignore their
constituents if, as you say, and vast majority favor your position? I don't
think so. And if they do, the remedy is to replace them.

Could it be that you have doubts about whether that vast majority is such a
vast majority?

More fundamentally, I think it's short-sighted, and a serious mistake, to
base Constitutional principle solely on whether it yields your desired
result in a particular case.

So, you would advocate the repeal of all civil rights legislation that
has taken place at the Federal level in favor of the legislation being
put to the individual states? Talk about short-sighted!!

From your last paragraph, should we infer that the Bill of Rights
should also be eliminated, since it was designed to specifically
address a desired result?

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

You pay $100 per prescription..What is your net worth (assets value)? Your
friend in Spain pays $8.00 per prescription. Do you really think his asset
value is the same as yours? (or is he one of the markedly few in Europe who
have as high a standard of living as we do?) Would you like to trade and
pay what they pay for fuel...even though we've seen increases, so have they,
and on a scale much greater than we...
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Katie,

I, have a very different Mind set, having Myasthania Gravis. We have
to take a drug called Mestinon. What I have to pay for a Hundred tablets
($100.00) can be purchased overseas for ($8.00

When the Gov. held hearing and decided US drug manufactures were over
charging and put a ceiling on the profiteering, the Drug companies
licensed companies outside the US to manufacture the drug. It is no
longer manufacture in this country.

We pay &100 and my web friend in Spain pays $8. Made by the same
company.

I know this isn't the Flu Vaccine and I'm sorry to be venting but it is
kind of related

Ole Thom

Get off it and go read the CDC reports for the last two weeks....vaccine ahs
been made avaialbe...in the millions of doses and has been allocated for
those who trult NEED it....both of our facilities have been immunized, as
have all the toher geriatric facilities in this area...and the county has
been offering vaccine at the local clinics as long as you fit the parameters
of NEED...problem is, many people think they NEED it when they do not....
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Thom Stewart wrote:
Jon,

I gave an example of how I am being ripped off. Now let me give an
example of "Life in the Good Ole US of A" I just had my Flu Shot
Thursday, at my doctor's office, free of charge because of my age and
the drugs I take, which are immune suppressants including Mestinon. Your
government has given us top priority. That government Admin. by
G.W.Bush.

Nice example. Glad you got your shot. Unfortunately, there are lots of
people in your situation that may not be able to get one free or
otherwise. Bush failed to think ahead (nothing new), and as a result,
some seniors have to wait in long lines. One woman died in line.

We spend something like 15% of GDP on healthcare in the US, but we
don't cover 41 million. Bush's "plan" would decrease that number by
about 2.5 million. Kerry's plan would decrease that number by about 27
million (not enough, but good progress). While Kerry's plan isn't
cheap, it would cover ALL children. I think that's the least we can do
for our citizens.





--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
katysails wrote:
The fact of the matter is, you have to die sometime. And of something. So
it might as well be flu or yb or something like that rather than failed
kidneys, malingering cancer, or any number of other unpleasant ways to
go....life is a cycle...you live and then you die...get over it....you too,
will die...nothing you can do about it....

Actually, that's not completely true... well, I suppose eventually,
but we're on the cusp of being able to extend life quite a bit.

Again, this seems rather cold-blooded. Is that how you want to die, of
the flu or some other preventable disease? Personally, I'd rather live
a long life and die in my sleep. There's a lot I can do about not
dying from something that's preventable. I think I'll keep trying.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
katysails wrote:
You pay $100 per prescription..What is your net worth (assets value)? Your
friend in Spain pays $8.00 per prescription. Do you really think his asset
value is the same as yours? (or is he one of the markedly few in Europe who
have as high a standard of living as we do?) Would you like to trade and
pay what they pay for fuel...even though we've seen increases, so have they,
and on a scale much greater than we...

Good point, but I think we should pay more, a lot more, for
gasoline. We need to get away from an oil-based economy.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 29 Oct 2004 10:17:36 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

Of the sort like Prisssssilla Owens? That freak of nature shouldn't be on
any bench, except maybe a park bench.

Of any sort.

So, then you don't agree that she should have been appointed by
Bush.

I haven't followed her opinions enough to have a view on that score. But
based on the people who opposed her I suspect she might make a pretty good
Ct. of Appeals judge. How many decisions where she was in the majority have
been reversed by the Supremes?

I don't know. I've only read a bit about her radical views. You should
check it out and let us know from your professional opinion. :-)

I do think the tactic of refusing to report out judicial nominations, and
requiring a 2/3 vote to confirm, are outrageous abuses of the power to
advise and consent. Another example of refusing to follow the Constitutional
process based solely on the result of the process if properly applied.

Sorry... don't understand the reference. Are you talking about the
Senate confirmation of appointees? If so, the Republicans have had
quite a time these 12 years. Seems they've been on both sides of the
same issue. Flip floppers all.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
katysails wrote:
Get off it and go read the CDC reports for the last two weeks....vaccine ahs
been made avaialbe...in the millions of doses and has been allocated for
those who trult NEED it....both of our facilities have been immunized, as
have all the toher geriatric facilities in this area...and the county has
been offering vaccine at the local clinics as long as you fit the parameters
of NEED...problem is, many people think they NEED it when they do not....

Two weeks?? That's no where near enough to judge how it's going. And,
there is a shortage for those WHO NEED IT. In any case, this debacle
could have been prevented if Bush had acted. He didn't. And, the gov't
has been urging EVERYONE to get a flu shot for many years. Now, they
have to backpeddle on that, which means that some people who actually
should get it will decide not to, and the result may be thousands of
extra deaths.

We spend something like 15% of GDP on healthcare in the US, but we
don't cover 41 million. Bush's "plan" would decrease that number by
about 2.5 million. Kerry's plan would decrease that number by about 27
million (not enough, but good progress). While Kerry's plan isn't
cheap, it would cover ALL children. I think that's the least we can do
for our citizens.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 29 Oct 2004 10:15:39 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz)
said:

No. You didn't ask for a catalog. In any case, it looks like Kerry was
right. It's a huge mess that BushCo created.

If you have a problem with the form of the question, let me restate it:

Should Kerry, before shooting from the hip, have considered how likely it is
that 35 or 40 truckloads of explosives were moved to an undisclosed location
without detection at a time when about the only traffic on the roads was
U.S. military vehicles?

No catalog--just a simple yes or no.

How about restating it this way: Was it a reasonable response by
President Bush to stare open-mouthed when asked about the situation?

Just a simple yes or no please.




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Do that...you're still going to die sometime....
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
katysails wrote:
The fact of the matter is, you have to die sometime. And of something.
So
it might as well be flu or yb or something like that rather than failed
kidneys, malingering cancer, or any number of other unpleasant ways to
go....life is a cycle...you live and then you die...get over it....you
too,
will die...nothing you can do about it....

Actually, that's not completely true... well, I suppose eventually,
but we're on the cusp of being able to extend life quite a bit.

Again, this seems rather cold-blooded. Is that how you want to die, of
the flu or some other preventable disease? Personally, I'd rather live
a long life and die in my sleep. There's a lot I can do about not
dying from something that's preventable. I think I'll keep trying.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
katysails wrote:
Do that...you're still going to die sometime....

Whatever. The point is that innoculating people agaist the flu is a
very good idea. We normally lose 36K or so people every year to
it. Some people are at higher risk that others, but some flu strains
are deadly to even normally healthy people. We're lucky that this year
is a mild season. What if it had been a bad one, ala 1918, and Bush
had failed to follow up on the advice he was given to do something to
ensure the supply? Instead of a few extra deaths, we might have a few
tens of thousands of extra deaths. Bush did nothing.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Scott,

I take five a day. The mestinon act as a shield around my muscle
receptors. It is effective for about 3hrs, then it starts to wear off
and my immune system see the receptors as a foreign body and destroyes
them. This leaves me with a muscle that can't respond to the signals
from my brain.

I can't pick up my "Manhattan" :^) Needless to say I don't dare
singlehanding without proper medication.

Ole Thom

Dave,

If what you say is true, there would still be Black & white Lavatories,
drinking fountains, Separate but :^) equal schools, back of buses, white
only hotels, etc
Now we have no God in our Pledge,, No prayers in school, no nativity on
public property. no 10 commandment in state houses.etc

I not sure but in my mind I do believe the Fed is the better way of
going

Ole Thom

Katie,

I hope you're not saying, " no more Polio, TB, scarlet fever, small
pox,etc shots" I like the Federal Gov to be involved in our health
care.

Does your Health Care Center take Medicare Payments?

Ole Thom

We are talking about the supply...they have dumped out and made available
millions more doses in the past two weeks....the optimal time frame was two
weeks...not what they've said historically. We're looking at current action
here, not ancient history....
wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:32:50 GMT, "katysails"
wrote:

Get off it and go read the CDC reports for the last two weeks....vaccine
ahs
been made avaialbe...in the millions of doses and has been allocated for
those who trult NEED it....both of our facilities have been immunized, as
have all the toher geriatric facilities in this area...and the county has
been offering vaccine at the local clinics as long as you fit the
parameters
of NEED...problem is, many people think they NEED it when they do not....

You are a complete nitwit, although that is nothing new. There has been an
ongoing effort for many years by the CDC, among others, to get more people
to
get a flu shot because it is beneficial for almost everyone. This debacle
has
undermined the effort pretty badly. If you were a health care
professional,
rather than an airhead office schlump/receptionist in a nursing home, you
would
NEVER spout the nonsense that you are spouting. The more people who get a
flu
shot, the better it is for everybody, including those who don't get a flu
shot.

BB

No...injecting foreign substances into your body that you do not need is not
a good idea when it comes to viri. They mutate too fast in in ways that are
too complicated to keep up with new technology.
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
katysails wrote:
Do that...you're still going to die sometime....

Whatever. The point is that innoculating people agaist the flu is a
very good idea. We normally lose 36K or so people every year to
it. Some people are at higher risk that others, but some flu strains
are deadly to even normally healthy people. We're lucky that this year
is a mild season. What if it had been a bad one, ala 1918, and Bush
had failed to follow up on the advice he was given to do something to
ensure the supply? Instead of a few extra deaths, we might have a few
tens of thousands of extra deaths. Bush did nothing.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

The residents medical needs are met by Medicare but their room and board is
not....and no, I'm not against vaccination when it makes sense. Influenza
is a dangerous disease..to some. To you. You certainly need a flu shot.
It is not like the vaccines made for other diseases...it has to be
re-configured a guess every year and is not a broad spectrum vaccine. The
reasons why there were flu epidemics in the past are mostly gone in this
country. We do not have wide-scale starvation (malnutrition is not
starvation...it means you are not eating correctly..not eating at all...),
we have adequate sanitation, and a better understanding of how viri are
caught. Handwashing, self quarantine when infected, and use of masks are
far better options to choose than the needle...for the healthy. And as far
as the government being involved in health care goes...I believe there
should be research and development and there should be a regulatory agency
but I do not believe the government should be the administrator of or the
provider of health care services except to assistance programs.
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Katie,

I hope you're not saying, " no more Polio, TB, scarlet fever, small
pox,etc shots" I like the Federal Gov to be involved in our health
care.

Does your Health Care Center take Medicare Payments?

Ole Thom

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:40:40 GMT, "katysails"

wrote:

No...injecting foreign substances into your body that you do not
need is not
a good idea when it comes to viri.

The word viri does not exist in the english language. If youo had
gone to
medical school rather than telephone receptionist school, you would
know that.
You would also know that your opinions amount to ignorant
superstition.

BB

wrote

The word viri does not exist in the english language. If youo had
gone to
medical school rather than telephone receptionist school, you would
know that.


The word ''youo'' is not in the English (note the capitalization)
dictionary either.

SV

On 28 Oct 2004 16:00:03 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

Thanks for clarifying. So, in simpler language, what you're saying is
that you support the notion that women should be subject to the whim
of state legislators, similar to how blacks were treated by those very
same legislators. Basically, they shouldn't have the right to choose
under federal law.


About time you started making some sense, Jon-boy. Maybe someday
you'll finally become a man.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 28 Oct 2004 16:00:03 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

Thanks for clarifying. So, in simpler language, what you're saying
is
that you support the notion that women should be subject to the
whim
of state legislators, similar to how blacks were treated by those
very
same legislators. Basically, they shouldn't have the right to
choose
under federal law.


About time you started making some sense, Jon-boy. Maybe someday
you'll finally become a man.

He's saving up for the operation.

On 29 Oct 2004 15:32:23 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

cough on you, one runs the risk of being stabbed, shot, mugged, even deafened
by some idiot with a boom box the size of a Volkswagon.

NY is among safest cities on the world. I've never witnessed violence on the
subway, but I hear it can happen. It also happens in airports, streets and
homes.


Your home, not mine.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:25:39 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

The fact of the matter is, you have to die sometime. And of something. So
it might as well be flu or yb or something like that rather than failed
kidneys, malingering cancer, or any number of other unpleasant ways to
go....life is a cycle...you live and then you die...get over it....you too,
will die...nothing you can do about it....

Not me. In fact, I know plenty of people that haven't died.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:10:07 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Katie,

I, have a very different Mind set, having Myasthania Gravis. We have
to take a drug called Mestinon. What I have to pay for a Hundred tablets
($100.00) can be purchased overseas for ($8.00


I feel for you. I take a certain medication that costs $85 for sixty
tablets. I'm supposed to take two a day, so that would be $85 each
month. The medication is made by Pfizer, (and it's not viagra or
anything like that.) In Canada, it's only slightly cheaper.

With my drug card, it only costs me $25.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On 29 Oct 2004 14:09:07 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:


We spend something like 15% of GDP on healthcare in the US, but we
don't cover 41 million. Bush's "plan" would decrease that number by
about 2.5 million. Kerry's plan would decrease that number by about 27
million (not enough, but good progress). While Kerry's plan isn't
cheap, it would cover ALL children. I think that's the least we can do
for our citizens.


Next you'll try telling me the government should pay for our food and
shelter, because "it's good for the children."





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 28 Oct 2004 16:00:03 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

Thanks for clarifying. So, in simpler language, what you're saying is
that you support the notion that women should be subject to the whim
of state legislators, similar to how blacks were treated by those very
same legislators. Basically, they shouldn't have the right to choose
under federal law.


About time you started making some sense, Jon-boy. Maybe someday
I'll finally become a man.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 28 Oct 2004 16:00:03 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

Thanks for clarifying. So, in simpler language, what you're saying
is
that you support the notion that women should be subject to the
whim
of state legislators, similar to how blacks were treated by those
very
same legislators. Basically, they shouldn't have the right to
choose
under federal law.


About time you started making some sense, Jon-boy. Maybe someday
you'll finally become a man.

I'm saving up for the operation.

Katy, the vaccines are a dead virus. Do you have any idea what you're
talking about??
If you had said the inhaled version, then at least you'd have an argument.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katysails" wrote in message
...
No...injecting foreign substances into your body that you do not need is
not a good idea when it comes to viri. They mutate too fast in in ways
that are too complicated to keep up with new technology.
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
katysails wrote:
Do that...you're still going to die sometime....

Whatever. The point is that innoculating people agaist the flu is a
very good idea. We normally lose 36K or so people every year to
it. Some people are at higher risk that others, but some flu strains
are deadly to even normally healthy people. We're lucky that this year
is a mild season. What if it had been a bad one, ala 1918, and Bush
had failed to follow up on the advice he was given to do something to
ensure the supply? Instead of a few extra deaths, we might have a few
tens of thousands of extra deaths. Bush did nothing.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"katysails" wrote in message
...
The residents medical needs are met by Medicare but their room and board
is not....and no, I'm not against vaccination when it makes sense.
Influenza is a dangerous disease..to some. To you. You certainly need a
flu shot.

Most people would benefit from the vaccination. Check the CDC. Up until this
fiasco, that's what they've been recommending.

It is not like the vaccines made for other diseases...it has to be
re-configured a guess every year and is not a broad spectrum vaccine. The
reasons why there were flu epidemics in the past are mostly gone in this
country.

They are reconfigured. It's more than a guess and less than a certainty.

You do not know that for a fact. It's a guess and not a very good one.

Get your facts straight.

We do not have wide-scale starvation (malnutrition is not starvation...it
means you are not eating correctly..not eating at all...),

We do have situations of starvation, but it isn't wide-scale. What's your
point?

we have adequate sanitation, and a better understanding of how viri are
caught. Handwashing, self quarantine when infected, and use of masks are
far better options to choose than the needle...for the healthy.

No. They're one of many things that help prevent getting or spreading the
virus.

And as far as the government being involved in health care goes...I believe
there should be research and development and there should be a regulatory
agency but I do not believe the government should be the administrator of
or the provider of health care services except to assistance programs.

No one does. The point is that Bush's administration DID NOTHING.

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Katie,

I hope you're not saying, " no more Polio, TB, scarlet fever, small
pox,etc shots" I like the Federal Gov to be involved in our health
care.

Does your Health Care Center take Medicare Payments?

Ole Thom

Hormone replacement therapy?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:10:07 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Katie,

I, have a very different Mind set, having Myasthania Gravis. We have
to take a drug called Mestinon. What I have to pay for a Hundred tablets
($100.00) can be purchased overseas for ($8.00


I feel for you. I take a certain medication that costs $85 for sixty
tablets. I'm supposed to take two a day, so that would be $85 each
month. The medication is made by Pfizer, (and it's not viagra or
anything like that.) In Canada, it's only slightly cheaper.

With my drug card, it only costs me $25.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Si I dropped a friggin i from the word...so what? And I've never been to
receptionist school or whatever you call it...I went to a Catholic lib arts
college....and if you read any of the postings on this ng, you'd know that
your opinion is held in respect by one person only....you know, maybe
injecting a foreign substance into your veins might be a good idea...

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:40:40 GMT, "katysails"
wrote:

No...injecting foreign substances into your body that you do not need is
not
a good idea when it comes to viri.

The word viri does not exist in the english language. If youo had gone to
medical school rather than telephone receptionist school, you would know
that.
You would also know that your opinions amount to ignorant superstition.

BB

And BTW....virus is a Latin derivative...if you had attended med school
instead of septic tank repair class, you'd know that....
wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 11:40:40 GMT, "katysails"
wrote:

No...injecting foreign substances into your body that you do not need is
not
a good idea when it comes to viri.

The word viri does not exist in the english language. If youo had gone to
medical school rather than telephone receptionist school, you would know
that.
You would also know that your opinions amount to ignorant superstition.

BB

sigh....you are truly hopeless...

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 22:25:39 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

The fact of the matter is, you have to die sometime. And of something.
So
it might as well be flu or yb or something like that rather than failed
kidneys, malingering cancer, or any number of other unpleasant ways to
go....life is a cycle...you live and then you die...get over it....you
too,
will die...nothing you can do about it....

Not me. In fact, I know plenty of people that haven't died.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

You misread....I know they inject dead virus samples....however, the virus
you are trying to protect against mutates too fast for that to be
efficacious for any period of time.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Katy, the vaccines are a dead virus. Do you have any idea what you're
talking about??
If you had said the inhaled version, then at least you'd have an argument.

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"katysails" wrote in message
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No...injecting foreign substances into your body that you do not need is
not a good idea when it comes to viri. They mutate too fast in in ways
that are too complicated to keep up with new technology.
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
katysails wrote:
Do that...you're still going to die sometime....

Whatever. The point is that innoculating people agaist the flu is a
very good idea. We normally lose 36K or so people every year to
it. Some people are at higher risk that others, but some flu strains
are deadly to even normally healthy people. We're lucky that this year
is a mild season. What if it had been a bad one, ala 1918, and Bush
had failed to follow up on the advice he was given to do something to
ensure the supply? Instead of a few extra deaths, we might have a few
tens of thousands of extra deaths. Bush did nothing.

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"If there's no wind, row."