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Pony Express October 6th 04 10:31 PM

What's it's all about
 
Just finished a learn to sail program for 22 home
schooled kids. What a great group. These kids
all wanted to be there - all wanted to learn -
just couldn't get enough. These have been the
most polite, well-behaved kids I've ever taught.
In only 6 two-hour lessons, they were racing and
doing well. All could rig, sail to windward,
round marks, jibe, etc. 22 more kids that are
hooked on sailing. That's what it's all about!
S.


Jonathan Ganz October 6th 04 11:02 PM

In article .net,
Pony Express wrote:
Just finished a learn to sail program for 22 home
schooled kids. What a great group. These kids
all wanted to be there - all wanted to learn -
just couldn't get enough. These have been the
most polite, well-behaved kids I've ever taught.
In only 6 two-hour lessons, they were racing and
doing well. All could rig, sail to windward,
round marks, jibe, etc. 22 more kids that are
hooked on sailing. That's what it's all about!
S.


Kids can be awesome! We did something similar for disadvantaged
minority kids a few weeks ago. There were 14 of them... some were
pretty rough customers. They were amazingly polite and enthusiastic.
Several didn't want to leave at the end of the day. At the end of
the second session, they were heeling over the Capri 16.5s and dipping
their heads in the water.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Pony Express October 7th 04 12:14 AM

During the summer, we run a 'Hood Kids' program
for kids from Paterson Park (a not so nice area of
Baltimore city). We taught them to sail, but they
were far from polite and well behaved. If you
banned the vulgar language, those kids wouldn't
have been able to talk. They also could not
comprehend the concept of de-rigging and putting
things away. Every session had at least one fight
between the kids.
No, these home schooled kids were really great.
Even my son, who is in our high school program
(which is also running) said the home school group
is better than the high school group.
S.

"Jonathan Ganz"
wrote in message
...
: In article
nk
..net,
: Pony Express
wrote:
: Just finished a learn to sail program for 22
home
: schooled kids. What a great group. These kids
: all wanted to be there - all wanted to learn -
: just couldn't get enough. These have been the
: most polite, well-behaved kids I've ever
taught.
: In only 6 two-hour lessons, they were racing
and
: doing well. All could rig, sail to windward,
: round marks, jibe, etc. 22 more kids that are
: hooked on sailing. That's what it's all about!
: S.
:
: Kids can be awesome! We did something similar
for disadvantaged
: minority kids a few weeks ago. There were 14 of
them... some were
: pretty rough customers. They were amazingly
polite and enthusiastic.
: Several didn't want to leave at the end of the
day. At the end of
: the second session, they were heeling over the
Capri 16.5s and dipping
: their heads in the water.
:
: --
: Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
: http://www.sailnow.com
: "If there's no wind, row."
:


Jonathan Ganz October 7th 04 12:20 AM

In article . net,
Pony Express wrote:
During the summer, we run a 'Hood Kids' program
for kids from Paterson Park (a not so nice area of
Baltimore city). We taught them to sail, but they
were far from polite and well behaved. If you
banned the vulgar language, those kids wouldn't
have been able to talk. They also could not
comprehend the concept of de-rigging and putting
things away. Every session had at least one fight
between the kids.
No, these home schooled kids were really great.
Even my son, who is in our high school program
(which is also running) said the home school group
is better than the high school group.
S.


We don't deal with kids that are uncontrollable. I think all kids
would rather sail than put stuff away, but you've got to have guts to
take on the kind you mentioned.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Joe October 7th 04 08:25 PM

(Jonathan Ganz) wrote in message ...
In article . net,
Pony Express wrote:
During the summer, we run a 'Hood Kids' program
for kids from Paterson Park (a not so nice area of
Baltimore city). We taught them to sail, but they
were far from polite and well behaved. If you
banned the vulgar language, those kids wouldn't
have been able to talk.


Sounds like a group of sailors, and at times... silence is golden.


They also could not
comprehend the concept of de-rigging and putting
things away.



Perhaps you need to find a way to encourage them to do a better job.

Every session had at least one fight
between the kids.


Sounds like an average group of Sailors.

No, these home schooled kids were really great.
Even my son, who is in our high school program
(which is also running) said the home school group
is better than the high school group.
S.


Thats because the home schooled kids get better leadership & support.


We don't deal with kids that are uncontrollable.


What do you do?

IMO it would be more rewarding to teach kids that come in and are
"uncontrollable". And have them leave more mature and
responsable.


I think all kids
would rather sail than put stuff away, but you've got to have guts to
take on the kind you mentioned.


Yelp guts and the willingness to try to make a difference. Who
knows.... one of the "uncontrollable" kids might find discipline and
something positive to focus on. You might make the world a better
place.

"A teacher is one who TAKES what he or she is GIVEN, and GIVES what
cannot be TAKEN."

Joe

Jonathan Ganz October 7th 04 08:33 PM

In article ,
Joe wrote:
Every session had at least one fight
between the kids.


Sounds like an average group of Sailors.


Sounds like this NG.

Thats because the home schooled kids get better leadership & support.


They're also generally better educated and do better in college.

We don't deal with kids that are uncontrollable.


What do you do?


It's not that we wouldn't want to. We just don't have the staff
resources to handle the issues. We're totally volunteer, except
for the office staff and a few of the regular instructors at our
kids camp.

IMO it would be more rewarding to teach kids that come in and are
"uncontrollable". And have them leave more mature and
responsable.


It would be. Unfortunately, we can't find enough money to hire the
staff needed to make it happen.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


gonefishiing October 8th 04 01:23 AM

these days i work cheap for certain things
buy me a plane ticket (NY-LA and back) and a place to stay and i'll sail
with whomever you need me to sail with
teaching experience a given

gf.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Joe wrote:

It would be. Unfortunately, we can't find enough money to hire the
staff needed to make it happen.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."




Jonathan Ganz October 8th 04 03:44 AM

In article , gonefishiing wrote:
these days i work cheap for certain things
buy me a plane ticket (NY-LA and back) and a place to stay and i'll sail
with whomever you need me to sail with
teaching experience a given

gf.


We're in northern cal. We can't afford the ticket. If we could, I'd do
it.



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


gonefishiing October 8th 04 05:04 AM

well if nothing else it is an interesting idea to think about
meaning a east -west coast sailing program with sailors that go between the
2 coasts
just given this list and people i know and people you know we could probably
make 2 schools
one here, one there.
gf.

any interest email me:

just don't vote for kerry.......................
there has too be a better choice and i am seriuosly considering what that
choice is.
donald
micky
ross perot!
..................................

gf.





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