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Thom Stewart September 22nd 04 04:44 AM

New Head Stay & Harkens Furler
 

Well, "Pneuma" got her new head stay and a new Harkens Model 0 on it.
Works great. Pictures to follow this week-end

Ole Thom


Scott Vernon September 22nd 04 12:57 PM

Good news Thom!

Scotty

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...

Well, "Pneuma" got her new head stay and a new Harkens Model 0 on

it.
Works great. Pictures to follow this week-end

Ole Thom




DSK September 22nd 04 01:20 PM

Thom Stewart wrote:
Well, "Pneuma" got her new head stay and a new Harkens Model 0 on it.
Works great. Pictures to follow this week-end


What kind did you have before? How would you compare the Harken unit?
Did they figure out what happened to the forestay?

Glad to hear you're back in action, Thom!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Bobsprit September 22nd 04 01:47 PM

Scotty wrote...

Good news Thom! Now kiss me!

Scotty

Thom Stewart September 23rd 04 03:23 AM

Hey Nutsy,

Go change a diaper. Grown-up are communicating.

Ole Thom


Thom Stewart September 23rd 04 05:20 AM

Doug,

My first furler was a Harkens. Never had a bit of trouble that wasn't
cause by human error. That is how I lost the Fore Stay. Harkens suggest
pulling the Spinnaker Halyard.over the upper Shroud and behind the
spreaders when not in use.

I, in all my knowledge, didn't like that. They bang on the spreaders,
making a lot of noise. I clipped mine off to a short pendent on the Bow
Pulpit. This works fine with the exception of a new crew member. When
furling the sail this halyard has a tendency to get entwined with the
head sail and has to be let out and start over, with more control on the
clew of the head sail.

My new Hobie sailor Crew jammed the head sail and put the furling line
on the winch.

This sheared the fore stay at the mast head swedge.

There have been a few changes in the newer Model 0. Harkens has done
away with the closed drum and made the removal of the drum, for Racing,
easier. They also changed the way it clamps unto the twin furl.

Operation still easy and I'm storing my Spinnaker Halyard as they
suggest.

That's it Doug.

Ole Thom


Scott Vernon September 23rd 04 12:39 PM


"Thom Stewart" wrote

Operation still easy and I'm storing my Spinnaker Halyard as they
suggest.



So, you *can* teach an old dog new tricks.

Scotty



Joe September 24th 04 06:02 PM

(Thom Stewart) wrote in message ...
Doug,

My first furler was a Harkens. Never had a bit of trouble that wasn't
cause by human error. That is how I lost the Fore Stay. Harkens suggest
pulling the Spinnaker Halyard.over the upper Shroud and behind the
spreaders when not in use.

I, in all my knowledge, didn't like that. They bang on the spreaders,
making a lot of noise. I clipped mine off to a short pendent on the Bow
Pulpit. This works fine with the exception of a new crew member. When
furling the sail this halyard has a tendency to get entwined with the
head sail and has to be let out and start over, with more control on the
clew of the head sail.

My new Hobie sailor Crew jammed the head sail and put the furling line
on the winch.

This sheared the fore stay at the mast head swedge.

There have been a few changes in the newer Model 0. Harkens has done
away with the closed drum and made the removal of the drum, for Racing,
easier. They also changed the way it clamps unto the twin furl.

Operation still easy and I'm storing my Spinnaker Halyard as they
suggest.

That's it Doug.



Why not just go with a hanked on head sail and avoid all the hassles?

Every messed up sail is see in storms are always roller furled head sails.

Joe

Ole Thom


Thom Stewart September 27th 04 09:32 PM

Doug,

Sorry my answer wasn't complete.
My Harken Furler is a Mark III, model 0 and it is replacing the same.

I love it. When I was talking to Herb Hild about a head sail for my old
furler, he said " Anything that will keep me, my family, and my friends
off the Pointy End of the boat, while under way is a good thing." That
is my Motto also.

Ole Thom


DSK September 27th 04 09:58 PM

Thom Stewart wrote:
Doug,

Sorry my answer wasn't complete.
My Harken Furler is a Mark III, model 0 and it is replacing the same.

I love it. When I was talking to Herb Hild about a head sail for my old
furler, he said " Anything that will keep me, my family, and my friends
off the Pointy End of the boat, while under way is a good thing." That
is my Motto also.


Agreed. And Harken stuff is very good.

One minor objection I have... and this is on OPB's... people with roller
furled sails who refuse to take any action to secure them for storms. So
far, this season we've had some brushes with hurricanes but no bad hits,
and there are still a half-dozen lazy and/or dumb owners in our marina
who refuse to take off & stow their roller-furled genoas. Lucky so far,
but our boat is between two of them.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Martin Baxter September 28th 04 05:47 PM

DSK wrote:
Thom Stewart wrote:

Doug,

Sorry my answer wasn't complete.
My Harken Furler is a Mark III, model 0 and it is replacing the same.

I love it. When I was talking to Herb Hild about a head sail for my old
furler, he said " Anything that will keep me, my family, and my friends
off the Pointy End of the boat, while under way is a good thing." That
is my Motto also.



Agreed. And Harken stuff is very good.

One minor objection I have... and this is on OPB's... people with roller
furled sails who refuse to take any action to secure them for storms. So
far, this season we've had some brushes with hurricanes but no bad hits,
and there are still a half-dozen lazy and/or dumb owners in our marina
who refuse to take off & stow their roller-furled genoas. Lucky so far,
but our boat is between two of them.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


My genoa, made by Hood, came with a cover made of sunbrella. Longest zipper I've ever seen, you attach
a loop from the cover to the spin halyard, close the cover around the bottom of the genny, close the zipper, holding
onto the zip tab, haul away on the halyard and up goes the cover zipping closed as it goes. There's a tab at the bottom
of the thing that covers the end of the zipper and snaps closed when it's all done up. I imagine it'd hold in a pretty good blow.
However if I thought I was going to be facing hurricane force winds I would remove all my canvas and stow it below.

Cheers
Marty



DSK September 28th 04 06:27 PM

Martin Baxter wrote:

My genoa, made by Hood, came with a cover made of sunbrella. Longest
zipper I've ever seen, you attach
a loop from the cover to the spin halyard, close the cover around the
bottom of the genny, close the zipper, holding
onto the zip tab, haul away on the halyard and up goes the cover zipping
closed as it goes. There's a tab at the bottom
of the thing that covers the end of the zipper and snaps closed when
it's all done up. I imagine it'd hold in a pretty good blow.


Yes that should be a good way of securing the sail, also keel the leech
from UV damage. Much better (although slightly more work) than sewing a
strip of heavy canvas along the leach.

However if I thought I was going to be facing hurricane force winds I
would remove all my canvas and stow it below.


Right, but then, you have good sense.

One of boats next door to ours in the marina is a nice Allied ketch,
owned by a tall slim elderly man. I offered the help him get his canvas
down for one of the earlier hurricanes, and then gently & tactfully
insisted that I help him get his canvas down... the result is that his
wife thinks I'm a *heck* of a nice guy ;)

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Thom Stewart September 29th 04 01:58 AM

Doug,

Please make sure you tell that slim old gentleman, that this fat old
gentleman says, to tell him you are ready and able to get those sails
back on and set or him.

Ole Thom


Scott Vernon September 29th 04 04:45 AM

"Martin Baxter" wrote


My genoa, made by Hood, came with a cover made of sunbrella. Longest

zipper I've ever seen, you attach
a loop from the cover to the spin halyard, close the cover around

the bottom of the genny, close the zipper, holding
onto the zip tab, haul away on the halyard and up goes the cover

zipping closed as it goes. There's a tab at the bottom
of the thing that covers the end of the zipper and snaps closed when

it's all done up. I imagine it'd hold in a pretty good blow.
However if I thought I was going to be facing hurricane force winds

I would remove all my canvas and stow it below.

That's what I did for hurricane Isabel, last year, but normally just
wind the sheets around 3 times and tie a seperate short line around
the furled sail.

Scotty





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