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Joe September 7th 04 10:25 PM

Art at sea
 
http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/students/...f_stream_1.jpg

Nice painting, but do you think it is realistic?

Joe

DSK September 7th 04 10:40 PM

Joe wrote:
http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/students/...f_stream_1.jpg

Nice painting, but do you think it is realistic?


Here's a bigger easier to see version
http://www.geocities.com/uttamkumar4...gulfstream.jpg

Here's another one of my favorites.
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/photoga...lls%5B1%5D.jpg

DSK


Donal September 7th 04 11:25 PM


"Joe" wrote in message
m...
http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/students/...f_stream_1.jpg

Nice painting, but do you think it is realistic?

No, Joe.

It doesn't look very realistic at all.

The seas aren't quite right - the hatches are just plain silly, the warps
don't make any sense at all, and the skipper looks like he has a bad
attitude and huge feet!

Is this a painting of Alien?

The boat looks old, and there are no electronics aboard..... I think that it
might be Alien.

There aren't any pretty women aboard. I bet $10 that I can name that boat.



Regards


Donal
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katysails September 8th 04 01:42 AM

http://www.geocities.com/uttamkumar4...gulfstream.jpg

So now we know what REALLY happened to Neal.....
Sorry, but those pictures are really depressing....

Here's my favorite artist for that fen
http://www.ourgallery-petri.com/show/bert.html
"DSK" wrote in message
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Joe wrote:
http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/students/...f_stream_1.jpg

Nice painting, but do you think it is realistic?


Here's a bigger easier to see version
http://www.geocities.com/uttamkumar4...gulfstream.jpg

Here's another one of my favorites.
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/photoga...lls%5B1%5D.jpg

DSK




Joe September 8th 04 04:29 AM

DSK wrote in message ...
Joe wrote:
http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/students/...f_stream_1.jpg

Nice painting, but do you think it is realistic?


Here's a bigger easier to see version
http://www.geocities.com/uttamkumar4...gulfstream.jpg

Here's another one of my favorites.
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/photoga...lls%5B1%5D.jpg

DSK



Eight bells is a good one. I also like Saved and Fog warning and wrecked schooner.

Joe September 8th 04 04:31 AM

"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
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http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/students/...f_stream_1.jpg

Nice painting, but do you think it is realistic?

No, Joe.

It doesn't look very realistic at all.

The seas aren't quite right - the hatches are just plain silly, the warps
don't make any sense at all, and the skipper looks like he has a bad
attitude and huge feet!

Is this a painting of Alien?


No, But if you owned this painting you could buy 100 aliens.


Regards



Donal
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Joe September 8th 04 05:02 AM

"Donal" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message
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http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/students/...f_stream_1.jpg

Nice painting, but do you think it is realistic?

No, Joe.

It doesn't look very realistic at all.

The seas aren't quite right - the hatches are just plain silly, the warps
don't make any sense at all, and the skipper looks like he has a bad
attitude and huge feet!


What about the seas in this picture Donal?:

http://www.mcah.columbia.edu/dbcours...arning1885.jpg

Who do you think paints or ever painted the best Sea paintings?

Joe

Donal September 9th 04 12:36 AM


"Joe" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message

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"Joe" wrote in message
m...
http://oceanworld.tamu.edu/students/...f_stream_1.jpg

Nice painting, but do you think it is realistic?

No, Joe.

It doesn't look very realistic at all.

The seas aren't quite right - the hatches are just plain silly, the

warps
don't make any sense at all, and the skipper looks like he has a bad
attitude and huge feet!


What about the seas in this picture Donal?:


http://www.mcah.columbia.edu/dbcours...FogWarning1885
..jpg

This picture made me stop dead in my tracks.

The seas are innacurate - the boat isn't quite right - and yet the picture
really affects me.



Who do you think paints or ever painted the best Sea paintings?


I cannot answer your question.
I wish that I could appreciate art, but I cannot. Many years ago, I visited
the Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam. My wife cried while she looked at one
painting. I was only able to understand her reaction because music often
does the same thing to me.



Regards


Donal
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Wally September 9th 04 01:21 AM

Donal wrote:

This picture made me stop dead in my tracks.

... and yet the picture really affects me.
...
I wish that I could appreciate art, but I cannot.


It seems to me that you can.

Appreciating art isn't about 'understanding' it, or analysing, or
intellectualising, but about being affected by it - having a reaction, being
drawn into it. Good art grabs you by the boo-boo. Whether or not a piece of
art is 'good' has more to do with the person experiencing it, than any
intrinsic quality of the artwork itself. "That's a good painting" is,
generally speaking, a metaphor for "I like that painting".


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



DSK September 10th 04 05:57 PM

Wally wrote:
Appreciating art isn't about 'understanding' it, or analysing, or
intellectualising, but about being affected by it - having a reaction, being
drawn into it. Good art grabs you by the boo-boo. Whether or not a piece of
art is 'good' has more to do with the person experiencing it, than any
intrinsic quality of the artwork itself. "That's a good painting" is,
generally speaking, a metaphor for "I like that painting".


Depends on who's speaking. While I agree that the reaction to a gien
piece of art is the important thing about it, there is a lot to know
about any field of art such as painting for example.

It is quite possible, given some education on the technical aspects, to
look at a painting and say, "That's a good painting but I just don't
like it." Same for music.

Regards
Doug King


Wally September 10th 04 07:02 PM

DSK wrote:

Depends on who's speaking.


By 'generally speaking', I wasn't referring to art critics, or people who
profess some expertise in the subject.


While I agree that the reaction to a gien
piece of art is the important thing about it, there is a lot to know
about any field of art such as painting for example.


The fact that there's 'a lot to know' is irrelevant - it either moves you or
it doesn't.


It is quite possible, given some education on the technical aspects,
to look at a painting and say, "That's a good painting but I just
don't like it." Same for music.


That's not appreciation of art, that's appreciation of skill. A musician
doing a good job of playing a crap tune doesn't turn it into a good tune.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk




DSK September 10th 04 07:36 PM

Wally wrote:
By 'generally speaking', I wasn't referring to art critics, or people who
profess some expertise in the subject.


Oh. I thought you meant 'people who "know" a lot about art but can't
paint a lick themselves' ;)


The fact that there's 'a lot to know' is irrelevant - it either moves you or
it doesn't.


Agreed.


It is quite possible, given some education on the technical aspects,
to look at a painting and say, "That's a good painting but I just
don't like it." Same for music.



That's not appreciation of art, that's appreciation of skill. A musician
doing a good job of playing a crap tune doesn't turn it into a good tune.


True, but a great musician can play a tune you've never liked before,
and show you that it has an appeal you didn't notice before.

DSK


Wally September 10th 04 08:23 PM

DSK wrote:

Oh. I thought you meant 'people who "know" a lot about art but can't
paint a lick themselves' ;)


No, I meant anyone - people from 'the general populace'. While some art can
be 'correctly interpreted' (because it employs an established symbolic
language), most attempts to do so are more an indication of what's in the
interpreter's mind than about the art itself. The only person who really
knows about a given piece of art is the person that created it, the rest are
just guessing.


That's not appreciation of art, that's appreciation of skill. A
musician doing a good job of playing a crap tune doesn't turn it
into a good tune.


True, but a great musician can play a tune you've never liked before,
and show you that it has an appeal you didn't notice before.


I find that, if a tune has merit (ie, is to my taste), then that will be
apparent regardless of how well it's played.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk



Donal September 11th 04 12:29 AM


"Wally" wrote in message
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Donal wrote:

This picture made me stop dead in my tracks.

... and yet the picture really affects me.
...
I wish that I could appreciate art, but I cannot.


It seems to me that you can.



Not really...... I wish that I could.

I rarely see a painting, or any work of art, that has much effect on me.

I can only understand the impact of art because I have witnessed my wife's
reaction Van Gogh's paintings. Her reaction suggested that art had the same
effect on her that music has on me.


Regards


Donal

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Donal September 11th 04 12:32 AM


"Wally" wrote in message
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I find that, if a tune has merit (ie, is to my taste), then that will be
apparent regardless of how well it's played.


You probably appreciate music in the same way that I appreciate art.

I think that Joe's link affected me because I am very familiar with the
subject.


Regards

Donal
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