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Bobsprit

September 6th 04 11:46 PM

Cooling Baby Aboard

This season is wrapping up and Thomas may get one or two sails in, but I'm
concerned about the hot months next year. How do couples keep babies cool under
sail on hot days? I see them sailing, but I still have concerns. I have a AC
system for the boat (not installed), but it would require a small genset to
keep running under sail. Thoughts from kiddie-cruiser experts out there?

RB

Jeff Morris

September 7th 04 12:09 AM

Its no problem. Make sure you can lash a seat (old car seat, etc.) under the
dodger so he can stay out of the Sun. I don't recall having any "overheating"
issues while under way or at anchor or a mooring. Dockside, of course, can be a
problem, so you might want to fire up the A/C if you intend to stay dockside a
lot. When Amelia was born, we moved to a marina (Constitution Marina) that had
a small swimming pool, so Mother and Baby could hang out there if I was fiddling
with the boat.

This brings up another point. Thomas can take swimming lessons at the "Y" (and
other places) starting at about 6 months.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

This season is wrapping up and Thomas may get one or two sails in, but I'm
concerned about the hot months next year. How do couples keep babies cool
under
sail on hot days? I see them sailing, but I still have concerns. I have a AC
system for the boat (not installed), but it would require a small genset to
keep running under sail. Thoughts from kiddie-cruiser experts out there?

RB

katysails

September 7th 04 12:55 AM

Having had children and never having an air conditioner until they were well
grown, I don't see this as a problem. Thomas will be almost one by next
season...the problem is not whether they get hot but how hydrated they
are....push fluids is much more important than an AC...especially since you
live in a temperate climate...keep them dry, they don;t get the prickly
heat....it's all pretty basic stuff...why create false atmosphere for a
baby? Babies are both resilient and adaptable and should be exposed to
their climate so they adapt. Creating a false climate causes problems down
the road. The ;latest studies show a,amazing things about kids. Babies
that are brought up in super clean, animal-less environments tend to grow up
with allergies and asthma. kids that are allowed to get healthily dirty and
have pets are far more disease resistant down the line. Makes sense...your
average farm kid is as healthy as a horse whereas asthma seems to be a city
or suburb kid thing.
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Its no problem. Make sure you can lash a seat (old car seat, etc.) under
the
dodger so he can stay out of the Sun. I don't recall having any
"overheating"
issues while under way or at anchor or a mooring. Dockside, of course,
can be a
problem, so you might want to fire up the A/C if you intend to stay
dockside a
lot. When Amelia was born, we moved to a marina (Constitution Marina)
that had
a small swimming pool, so Mother and Baby could hang out there if I was
fiddling
with the boat.

This brings up another point. Thomas can take swimming lessons at the "Y"
(and
other places) starting at about 6 months.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

This season is wrapping up and Thomas may get one or two sails in, but
I'm
concerned about the hot months next year. How do couples keep babies
cool
under
sail on hot days? I see them sailing, but I still have concerns. I have
a AC
system for the boat (not installed), but it would require a small genset
to
keep running under sail. Thoughts from kiddie-cruiser experts out there?

RB

Capt. Mooron

September 7th 04 01:00 AM

You're joking right?!!

You want to keep the baby cool!!!???

Look Bob... just make sure not to place in direct sunlight for extended
periods and continue with regular watering and feedings.

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
|
|
| This season is wrapping up and Thomas may get one or two sails in, but I'm
| concerned about the hot months next year. How do couples keep babies cool
under
| sail on hot days? I see them sailing, but I still have concerns. I have a
AC
| system for the boat (not installed), but it would require a small genset
to
| keep running under sail. Thoughts from kiddie-cruiser experts out there?
|
| RB

Donal

September 7th 04 01:26 AM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

This season is wrapping up and Thomas may get one or two sails in, but I'm
concerned about the hot months next year. How do couples keep babies cool
under
sail on hot days? I see them sailing, but I still have concerns. I have a
AC
system for the boat (not installed), but it would require a small genset
to
keep running under sail. Thoughts from kiddie-cruiser experts out there?

My kids have been on boats from birth.

I don't think that you will need advice from anybody.

Instinct will tell you that they need protection from sun, rain, and wind.
You will know if they are uncomfortable, or in any kind of distress.

You will automatically plan each day's sailing around the child.

Mother Nature has programmed you to protect your child.

You, and Suzanne will know when the time is right to take the baby out for
it's first sail.

Trust your instincts.

Regards

Donal
--

Magnum

September 7th 04 02:39 AM

Hey idiot - just because you're hot doesn't mean the runt is. Air
conditioning can cause major lung problems. What not use water mist?

You're angling for a bigger boat.

Magnum

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

This season is wrapping up and Thomas may get one or two sails in, but I'm
concerned about the hot months next year. How do couples keep babies cool
under
sail on hot days? I see them sailing, but I still have concerns. I have a
AC
system for the boat (not installed), but it would require a small genset
to
keep running under sail. Thoughts from kiddie-cruiser experts out there?

RB

Magnum

September 7th 04 02:41 AM

Katy,

His wife is supposedly a nurse. Think about it.

Magnum

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Having had children and never having an air conditioner until they were
well
grown, I don't see this as a problem. Thomas will be almost one by next
season...the problem is not whether they get hot but how hydrated they
are....push fluids is much more important than an AC...especially since
you
live in a temperate climate...keep them dry, they don;t get the prickly
heat....it's all pretty basic stuff...why create false atmosphere for a
baby? Babies are both resilient and adaptable and should be exposed to
their climate so they adapt. Creating a false climate causes problems
down
the road. The ;latest studies show a,amazing things about kids. Babies
that are brought up in super clean, animal-less environments tend to grow
up
with allergies and asthma. kids that are allowed to get healthily dirty
and
have pets are far more disease resistant down the line. Makes
sense...your
average farm kid is as healthy as a horse whereas asthma seems to be a
city
or suburb kid thing.
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Its no problem. Make sure you can lash a seat (old car seat, etc.)
under
the
dodger so he can stay out of the Sun. I don't recall having any
"overheating"
issues while under way or at anchor or a mooring. Dockside, of course,
can be a
problem, so you might want to fire up the A/C if you intend to stay
dockside a
lot. When Amelia was born, we moved to a marina (Constitution Marina)
that had
a small swimming pool, so Mother and Baby could hang out there if I was
fiddling
with the boat.

This brings up another point. Thomas can take swimming lessons at the
"Y"
(and
other places) starting at about 6 months.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

This season is wrapping up and Thomas may get one or two sails in, but
I'm
concerned about the hot months next year. How do couples keep babies
cool
under
sail on hot days? I see them sailing, but I still have concerns. I
have
a AC
system for the boat (not installed), but it would require a small
genset
to
keep running under sail. Thoughts from kiddie-cruiser experts out
there?

RB

Scott Vernon

September 7th 04 02:48 AM

"Magnum" wrote in message
et...
Katy,

His wife is supposedly a nurse. Think about it.

And the idiot is asking baby questions on a sailing NG. For next
summer yet!

What's next, ''what do I do with the baby if it's raining outside next
Spring''?

SV

Magnum

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Having had children and never having an air conditioner until they
were
well
grown, I don't see this as a problem. Thomas will be almost one
by next
season...the problem is not whether they get hot but how hydrated
they
are....push fluids is much more important than an AC...especially
since
you
live in a temperate climate...keep them dry, they don;t get the
prickly
heat....it's all pretty basic stuff...why create false atmosphere
for a
baby? Babies are both resilient and adaptable and should be
exposed to
their climate so they adapt. Creating a false climate causes
problems
down
the road. The ;latest studies show a,amazing things about kids.
Babies
that are brought up in super clean, animal-less environments tend
to grow
up
with allergies and asthma. kids that are allowed to get healthily
dirty
and
have pets are far more disease resistant down the line. Makes
sense...your
average farm kid is as healthy as a horse whereas asthma seems to
be a
city
or suburb kid thing.
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Its no problem. Make sure you can lash a seat (old car seat,
etc.)
under
the
dodger so he can stay out of the Sun. I don't recall having any
"overheating"
issues while under way or at anchor or a mooring. Dockside, of
course,
can be a
problem, so you might want to fire up the A/C if you intend to
stay
dockside a
lot. When Amelia was born, we moved to a marina (Constitution
Marina)
that had
a small swimming pool, so Mother and Baby could hang out there
if I was
fiddling
with the boat.

This brings up another point. Thomas can take swimming lessons
at the
"Y"
(and
other places) starting at about 6 months.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

This season is wrapping up and Thomas may get one or two sails
in, but
I'm
concerned about the hot months next year. How do couples keep
babies
cool
under
sail on hot days? I see them sailing, but I still have
concerns. I
have
a AC
system for the boat (not installed), but it would require a
small
genset
to
keep running under sail. Thoughts from kiddie-cruiser experts
out
there?

RB

Capt. Mooron

September 7th 04 02:49 AM

Scott Vernon

September 7th 04 02:56 AM

Magnum

September 7th 04 03:04 AM

Bobsprit

September 7th 04 03:09 AM

Bob, ignore those idiots on Alt.sailing.asa. With temps on the LIS commonly
in excess of 90 degrees, temps beneath a dodger or in the cabin can become
dangerous for children. You're wife was correct to be concerned as all children
are different and can't always tolerate high temps. My daughter has had
problems, especially as an infant with this, but it improved by our 2nd year
aboard. I especially like that idiot Katy, who thinks a nurse training for med
S. would be trained in pediatrics! Donal's advice may be best. Observe
carefully and take it slow before committing to even short trips. You'll see,
it will all go well. Let us know when the 41 is ready!
Dimitry

Bobsprit

September 7th 04 03:10 AM

You're angling for a bigger boat.

The angling is over and the bigger boat is all picked out. We're currently
deciding if the Chesapeak suits us or if we should seek warmer climates.

RB

Scott Vernon

September 7th 04 03:11 AM

Scott Vernon

September 7th 04 03:25 AM

You wouldn't like the Chesapeake, it's polluted and there's hardly
ever any wind over 4kts. In the summer it's very hot and humid, bad
for baby's health. 85% of the bay is only 5' deep, lots of groundings.
Sharks in the lower bay, poisonous jelly fish are abundant every
where. Lots of power boat and big ship traffic. Pirate ships, too.
Dead fish floating and tons of crab traps to foul your prop. Marina
thefts have risen 225% the last 3 years.

--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

"Bobsprit" wrote

The angling is over and the bigger boat is all picked out. We're
currently
deciding if the Chesapeak suits us or if we should seek warmer
climates.

RB

SAIL LOCO

September 7th 04 05:02 AM

Geeks and dorks are usually trim and healthy. We've seen what the slob looks
like.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

SAIL LOCO

September 7th 04 05:03 AM

We're currently
deciding if the Chesapeak suits us or if we should seek warmer climates.

Don't stop here on your way south. The sailors on the Chesapeake would show
you what your really made of ......... ****.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Popeye

September 7th 04 08:28 AM

Every neonatal intensive care unit in the country is air conditioned.
Maybe they're trying to drum up business.

"Magnum" wrote in message .net...
Hey idiot - just because you're hot doesn't mean the runt is. Air
conditioning can cause major lung problems. What not use water mist?

You're angling for a bigger boat.

Magnum

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

This season is wrapping up and Thomas may get one or two sails in, but I'm
concerned about the hot months next year. How do couples keep babies cool
under
sail on hot days? I see them sailing, but I still have concerns. I have a
AC
system for the boat (not installed), but it would require a small genset
to
keep running under sail. Thoughts from kiddie-cruiser experts out there?

RB

Scott Vernon

September 7th 04 03:22 PM

Even the one's in Alaska?

SV

"Popeye" wrote in message
om...
Every neonatal intensive care unit in the country is air
conditioned.
Maybe they're trying to drum up business.

Scott Vernon

September 7th 04 03:30 PM

He wrote this;

''Ted Cassidy died in 1979 after heart surgery. Everyone knows this
and can
generally name the 3 episodes of Star Trek he was in.''

Geeky AND dorky at the same time.

SV

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Geeks and dorks are usually trim and healthy. We've seen what the
slob looks
like.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Scott Vernon

September 7th 04 04:35 PM

wrote

Yes. Ever been to Alaska?

No. Ever been to Cleveland?

Scotty

katysails

September 8th 04 01:46 AM

Yeah, well, I know an awful lot of nurses....they're just like other
people..some know what they're talking about, some don't....she supposedly
hasn't graduated yet....
"Magnum" wrote in message
et...
Katy,

His wife is supposedly a nurse. Think about it.

Magnum

"katysails" wrote in message
...
Having had children and never having an air conditioner until they were
well
grown, I don't see this as a problem. Thomas will be almost one by next
season...the problem is not whether they get hot but how hydrated they
are....push fluids is much more important than an AC...especially since
you
live in a temperate climate...keep them dry, they don;t get the prickly
heat....it's all pretty basic stuff...why create false atmosphere for a
baby? Babies are both resilient and adaptable and should be exposed to
their climate so they adapt. Creating a false climate causes problems
down
the road. The ;latest studies show a,amazing things about kids. Babies
that are brought up in super clean, animal-less environments tend to
grow
up
with allergies and asthma. kids that are allowed to get healthily dirty
and
have pets are far more disease resistant down the line. Makes
sense...your
average farm kid is as healthy as a horse whereas asthma seems to be a
city
or suburb kid thing.
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Its no problem. Make sure you can lash a seat (old car seat, etc.)
under
the
dodger so he can stay out of the Sun. I don't recall having any
"overheating"
issues while under way or at anchor or a mooring. Dockside, of
course,
can be a
problem, so you might want to fire up the A/C if you intend to stay
dockside a
lot. When Amelia was born, we moved to a marina (Constitution Marina)
that had
a small swimming pool, so Mother and Baby could hang out there if I
was
fiddling
with the boat.

This brings up another point. Thomas can take swimming lessons at the
"Y"
(and
other places) starting at about 6 months.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

This season is wrapping up and Thomas may get one or two sails in,
but
I'm
concerned about the hot months next year. How do couples keep babies
cool
under
sail on hot days? I see them sailing, but I still have concerns. I
have
a AC
system for the boat (not installed), but it would require a small
genset
to
keep running under sail. Thoughts from kiddie-cruiser experts out
there?

RB

Bobsprit

September 8th 04 10:40 AM

Yeah, well, I know an awful lot of nurses...

Right, so I sure won't be listening to Katy, who isn't a nurse and has no
medical training. I have 3 doctors in the family, though none sail.

RB

Bart Senior

September 9th 04 09:11 AM

Based on the number of doctors I know that sail, something is
wrong with this statement.

"Bobsprit" wrote

I have 3 doctors in the family, though none sail.

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