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Vito August 31st 04 07:58 PM

Towing- When to say no.
 
Yes, absolutely. Comes from being an old biker and a real conservative.

"Joe" wrote
Do you tow everyone you see in need?




John Cairns August 31st 04 08:22 PM

Depends. I don't own a towboat, I own a sailboat with an 18 hp. diesel. I
probably wouldn't have towed the cabin cruiser, anyone that owns a boat that
big should have towing insurance, they're either too cheap or too stupid.
Too cheap, screw 'em, will teach a valuable lesson. Too stupid, they might
cause harm to me or my boat in my attempts to help them, and someone that
stupid probably shouldn't be on the water anyways, hell, have too many of
'em on the roads. I will admit that I did aid some powerboaters in distress
a while back when I had my first boat. A bunch of kids on a small runabout,
they couldn't get their outboard started, they indicated that they knew
about the problem beforehand-why did they go out if they thought they
couldn't start the outboard if it stalled?. Initially I told them I didn't
have a battery, then I gave them the jump and they were on their way. Now a
sailor, I probably wouldn't hesitate.
John cairns
"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Do you tow everyone you see in need? Even if it's going to ruin your
trip?

Joe




Donal August 31st 04 10:57 PM


"Joe" wrote in message
om...


Do you tow everyone you see in need? Even if it's going to ruin your
trip?


I used to!

When I had a power boat I responded to three requests for assistance. With
hindsight, I shouldn't have offered assistance to any of them. The worst
example was a dinghy who flagged me down (using the distress signal). I was
towing him for 10 minutes before I realised that we were going *out* to
sea!!! I was due to be the committee boat for a race, and the tow was
slowing me down so much that I was going to be late. He swore at me when I
told him that I would have to release him.

I guess that he was going out to a race, and that he scrounged a lift every
week.



Regards


Donal
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Jonathan Ganz August 31st 04 11:00 PM

In article , OzOne wrote:
On 31 Aug 2004 07:57:00 -0700, (Joe)
scribbled thusly:

Do you tow everyone you see in need? Even if it's going to ruin your
trip?

Joe


What sort of a stupid question is that?


Rhetorical question right? Just checking....
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


felton September 1st 04 12:04 AM

On 31 Aug 2004 07:57:00 -0700, (Joe) wrote:

Last night we decided to go check out one of our favorate destinations
around here. It's a bridge around 15 miles away that has a huge
population of bats living under it, and at sundown its great to watch
them take off and start eating bugs.


Do you tow everyone you see in need? Even if it's going to ruin your
trip?

Joe


The last time I towed anyone it was a disabled PWC on a busy three day
holiday weekend. All they needed was a tow over to the beach where
their friends were frolicking, blissfully unaware of the problem. No
problem, says I and I toss them a line and off we go. When I get as
close to the beach as my draft will allow, I tell them to untie and
I'll retrieve the line. They had quite a problem getting the line
untied on their end and they drifted around to the point that the line
was jammed between the top of my rudder and my hull, disabling my
rudder. I then had to anchor and go swimming to free the line, which
was firmly jammed. Finally I was free and able to move on, swearing I
would think twice before helping another damn PWC.

Oh, did I mention that the PWC's passengers were two hot young babes
in very skimpy bikinis? Would I have stopped to help two dirt ball
guys, who are usually riding those things? Maybe, but probably not:)
Will I do it again? Depends:)

Joe September 1st 04 04:26 AM

(Jonathan Ganz) wrote in message ...
In article , OzOne wrote:
On 31 Aug 2004 07:57:00 -0700,
(Joe)
scribbled thusly:

Do you tow everyone you see in need? Even if it's going to ruin your
trip?

Joe


What sort of a stupid question is that?


What do you mean?


Rhetorical question right? Just checking....


No not at all. What if I could not start my dink while entering the
cut and the current smashed his 40 footer into a 62 foot aluminum
ketch and tore off the pulpit creased the hull and scraped paint off a
half dozen boats for sale?

What if I left the PWC and he sunk?

Can the man come after me?

Joe

DSK September 1st 04 01:44 PM

Last night we decided to go check out one of our favorate destinations
around here. It's a bridge around 15 miles away that has a huge
population of bats living under it, and at sundown its great to watch
them take off and start eating bugs.


Bats are cool.


Do you tow everyone you see in need? Even if it's going to ruin your
trip?


Define "in need." I would not hesitate to rescue anybody who needed it,
even at some risk to my boat. If it's a matter of their comfort or
convenience, shucks no.


felton wrote
The last time I towed anyone it was a disabled PWC on a busy three day
holiday weekend. All they needed was a tow over to the beach where
their friends were frolicking, blissfully unaware of the problem. No
problem, says I and I toss them a line and off we go. When I get as
close to the beach as my draft will allow, I tell them to untie and
I'll retrieve the line.


Did they understand you couldn't get closer? I've had this issue pop up
a few times when I was rescuing people.

... They had quite a problem getting the line
untied on their end and they drifted around to the point that the line
was jammed between the top of my rudder and my hull, disabling my
rudder.


You should have tended the line by hand, holding it up and keeping it
from getting fouled. What if it had got in the prop? Could have been
worse. Whenever I'm towing something, and begin to slow for maneuvering,
I always pull the tow line up as short as possible, if there's crew
available I get them to tend it by hand.

... I then had to anchor and go swimming to free the line, which
was firmly jammed. Finally I was free and able to move on, swearing I
would think twice before helping another damn PWC.

Oh, did I mention that the PWC's passengers were two hot young babes
in very skimpy bikinis?


No you didn't mention that part. Get any pictures?

... Would I have stopped to help two dirt ball
guys, who are usually riding those things? Maybe, but probably not:)
Will I do it again? Depends:)


Do yourself a favor, don't let the hot young bikini clad babes know you
wear Depends. Puts them off, Dad says ;)

I've had guys drive up on PWCs offering to help me when we were doing
capsize drills, including one guy who drove up onto our mainsail and
another who accidentally rammed us... although he was very apologetic
and offered to sand & buff the hull... they're not *all* stupid jerks.

I've rescued a number of people, usually early or late in the season
when hypothermia is an issue. Sometimes we've banged up the boat a
little bit doing it. One time, when practicing with a Lightning crew on
a blustery spring day, we rescued a young couple with a small daysailer.
That was a bit difficult, made more complex by a wildlife officer in
a speedboat who kept zooming in and then getting scared and zooming off.
Lucky he didn't run over anybody.

The ones that make me think though, are the people I've met in obvious
trouble who turned down help. For example, on the Chesapeake near
Tighlman Island we saw a cigarette boat burst into flames and stop about
300 yards downwind of us. We radioed (while sailing towards him), got no
answer, sailed up close enough to talk with the sole person on board,
who said "No problem, I've called a buddy on my cell phone." I offered
him a fire extinguisher and he said "No thanks" politely. WTF???

Ah well it's all in the adventure I suppose.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Scott Vernon September 7th 04 02:36 AM


"DSK" wrote

For example, on the Chesapeake near
Tighlman Island we saw a cigarette boat burst into flames and stop

about
300 yards downwind of us.


COOL! Did you take pics? I'd love to see them.

Scotty



DSK September 7th 04 03:17 PM

"DSK" wrote
For example, on the Chesapeake near
Tighlman Island we saw a cigarette boat burst into flames and stop

about
300 yards downwind of us.


Scott Vernon wrote:
COOL! Did you take pics? I'd love to see them.


Nope, didn't even think of it at the time.

DSK



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