E Machine Shop
 

sorry http://www.emachineshop.com/

Yeah sure Marc.... but how many people do you think can operate AutoCAD
sufficiently well to design for lathe work and milling?

CM

"Marc" wrote in message
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| sorry http://www.emachineshop.com/

Just another tool in the neverending world of boat maintenence. Use it
or don't


On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:00:41 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:

Yeah sure Marc.... but how many people do you think can operate AutoCAD
sufficiently well to design for lathe work and milling?

CM

"Marc" wrote in message
.. .
| sorry http://www.emachineshop.com/

I've used it before, with practice this might not be a bad thing. Can't get
the jokers in the tool room to make anything for me, well I can actually,
depending on their mood. And they do offer a tutorial.
John Cairns

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Yeah sure Marc.... but how many people do you think can operate AutoCAD
sufficiently well to design for lathe work and milling?

CM

"Marc" wrote in message
...
| sorry http://www.emachineshop.com/

Most of what you need milled for a boat would be better done by a local
millwright or even a forge and smitty. I have a metal lathe outback and a
smitty. I'm researching case hardening right now.

Cool site... but few could make use of it. I use AutoCAD light in my field
of work... but I would never attempt a complicated design with it.

CM

"Marc" wrote in message
...
| Just another tool in the neverending world of boat maintenence. Use it
| or don't
|
|
| On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:00:41 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Yeah sure Marc.... but how many people do you think can operate AutoCAD
| sufficiently well to design for lathe work and milling?
|
| CM
|
| "Marc" wrote in message
| .. .
| | sorry http://www.emachineshop.com/
|
|

I've never used autocad before, but 20 min of fooling around and I was
able to design a bracket for my boat that required laser cutting,
bending, and buffing. I also designed some chain plates for a friend
that required laser cutting, punching and buffing. The pricing is
more expensive, but reflects a measure of convenience.
Believe it or not, but it is difficult to find a machine shop in NYC
that will accept walk in orders off the street, or deal in marine
grade SS and polishing.



On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:02:28 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:

Most of what you need milled for a boat would be better done by a local
millwright or even a forge and smitty. I have a metal lathe outback and a
smitty. I'm researching case hardening right now.

Cool site... but few could make use of it. I use AutoCAD light in my field
of work... but I would never attempt a complicated design with it.

CM

"Marc" wrote in message
.. .
| Just another tool in the neverending world of boat maintenence. Use it
| or don't
|
|
| On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:00:41 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Yeah sure Marc.... but how many people do you think can operate AutoCAD
| sufficiently well to design for lathe work and milling?
|
| CM
|
| "Marc" wrote in message
| .. .
| | sorry http://www.emachineshop.com/
|
|

Oh... I've got 3 or 4 shops to choose from here in Halifax.

It can't be AutoCAD if you mastered brackets in 20 minutes to scale.
You'd have a hard time with basic shapes and scaling in that time frame on
AutoCAD light.... much longer on AutoCAD v.14+.

CM

"Marc" wrote in message
...
| I've never used AutoCAD before, but 20 min of fooling around and I was
| able to design a bracket for my boat that required laser cutting,
| bending, and buffing. I also designed some chain plates for a friend
| that required laser cutting, punching and buffing. The pricing is
| more expensive, but reflects a measure of convenience.
| Believe it or not, but it is difficult to find a machine shop in NYC
| that will accept walk in orders off the street, or deal in marine
| grade SS and polishing.
|
|
|
| On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:02:28 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Most of what you need milled for a boat would be better done by a local
| millwright or even a forge and smitty. I have a metal lathe outback and a
| smitty. I'm researching case hardening right now.
|
| Cool site... but few could make use of it. I use AutoCAD light in my
field
| of work... but I would never attempt a complicated design with it.
|
| CM
|
| "Marc" wrote in message
| .. .
| | Just another tool in the neverending world of boat maintenence. Use it
| | or don't
| |
| |
| | On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:00:41 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| | wrote:
| |
| | Yeah sure Marc.... but how many people do you think can operate
AutoCAD
| | sufficiently well to design for lathe work and milling?
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Marc" wrote in message
| | .. .
| | | sorry http://www.emachineshop.com/
| |
| |
|
|

Unless he's a better man than we are Gunga Din. I do I do my control
diagrams in AutoCAD 2000 and that's difficult enough, not even 3D. I taught
myself the basics working in R13, R14, and 2000; then took an advanced
course at night. I'm guessing Marc did orthographic and not isometric
drawings of his brackets, which wouldn't be too too hard, especially if he
has previous experience with other CAD programs. Still, 20 minutes to
produce with AutoCAD is a small miracle.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Oh... I've got 3 or 4 shops to choose from here in Halifax.

It can't be AutoCAD if you mastered brackets in 20 minutes to scale.
You'd have a hard time with basic shapes and scaling in that time frame on
AutoCAD light.... much longer on AutoCAD v.14+.

CM

"Marc" wrote in message
...
| I've never used AutoCAD before, but 20 min of fooling around and I was
| able to design a bracket for my boat that required laser cutting,
| bending, and buffing. I also designed some chain plates for a friend
| that required laser cutting, punching and buffing. The pricing is
| more expensive, but reflects a measure of convenience.
| Believe it or not, but it is difficult to find a machine shop in NYC
| that will accept walk in orders off the street, or deal in marine
| grade SS and polishing.
|
|
|
| On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:02:28 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Most of what you need milled for a boat would be better done by a local
| millwright or even a forge and smitty. I have a metal lathe outback and
a
| smitty. I'm researching case hardening right now.
|
| Cool site... but few could make use of it. I use AutoCAD light in my
field
| of work... but I would never attempt a complicated design with it.
|
| CM
|
| "Marc" wrote in message
| .. .
| | Just another tool in the neverending world of boat maintenence. Use
it
| | or don't
| |
| |
| | On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:00:41 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| | wrote:
| |
| | Yeah sure Marc.... but how many people do you think can operate
AutoCAD
| | sufficiently well to design for lathe work and milling?
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Marc" wrote in message
| | .. .
| | | sorry http://www.emachineshop.com/
| |
| |
|
|

OK guys, I'm no genius. Download and check out the propriatary program
that loads from the Emachineworks website. Thats what I used. Is it
auto cad? Who knows. Its relatively simple.


On Sat, 28 Aug 2004 11:43:59 GMT, "Scout"
wrote:

Unless he's a better man than we are Gunga Din. I do I do my control
diagrams in AutoCAD 2000 and that's difficult enough, not even 3D. I taught
myself the basics working in R13, R14, and 2000; then took an advanced
course at night. I'm guessing Marc did orthographic and not isometric
drawings of his brackets, which wouldn't be too too hard, especially if he
has previous experience with other CAD programs. Still, 20 minutes to
produce with AutoCAD is a small miracle.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Oh... I've got 3 or 4 shops to choose from here in Halifax.

It can't be AutoCAD if you mastered brackets in 20 minutes to scale.
You'd have a hard time with basic shapes and scaling in that time frame on
AutoCAD light.... much longer on AutoCAD v.14+.

CM

"Marc" wrote in message
...
| I've never used AutoCAD before, but 20 min of fooling around and I was
| able to design a bracket for my boat that required laser cutting,
| bending, and buffing. I also designed some chain plates for a friend
| that required laser cutting, punching and buffing. The pricing is
| more expensive, but reflects a measure of convenience.
| Believe it or not, but it is difficult to find a machine shop in NYC
| that will accept walk in orders off the street, or deal in marine
| grade SS and polishing.
|
|
|
| On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 22:02:28 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Most of what you need milled for a boat would be better done by a local
| millwright or even a forge and smitty. I have a metal lathe outback and
a
| smitty. I'm researching case hardening right now.
|
| Cool site... but few could make use of it. I use AutoCAD light in my
field
| of work... but I would never attempt a complicated design with it.
|
| CM
|
| "Marc" wrote in message
| .. .
| | Just another tool in the neverending world of boat maintenence. Use
it
| | or don't
| |
| |
| | On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:00:41 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| | wrote:
| |
| | Yeah sure Marc.... but how many people do you think can operate
AutoCAD
| | sufficiently well to design for lathe work and milling?
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Marc" wrote in message
| | .. .
| | | sorry http://www.emachineshop.com/
| |
| |
|
|

Scout wrote:

Unless he's a better man than we are Gunga Din. I do I do my control
diagrams in AutoCAD 2000 and that's difficult enough, not even 3D.
...
Still, 20 minutes to produce with AutoCAD is a small miracle.

It depends on what you're drawing, and how well you know your way around the
software.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Scout wrote:
Unless he's a better man than we are Gunga Din. I do I do my control
diagrams in AutoCAD 2000 and that's difficult enough, not even 3D. I
taught myself the basics working in R13, R14, and 2000; then took an
advanced course at night. I'm guessing Marc did orthographic and not
isometric drawings of his brackets, which wouldn't be too too hard,
especially if he has previous experience with other CAD programs.
Still, 20 minutes to produce with AutoCAD is a small miracle.

I just drew this 3D sketch of the example cog on the EMachineShop web site
in eleven minutes...

http://www.wally.myby.co.uk/cog.jpg

It's them extruded solids wot makes it.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

yes, you're right, and that's what we're saying. The first 20 minutes in
AutoCAD is usually spent scratching one's head.
Scout


"Wally" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:

Unless he's a better man than we are Gunga Din. I do I do my control
diagrams in AutoCAD 2000 and that's difficult enough, not even 3D.
...
Still, 20 minutes to produce with AutoCAD is a small miracle.

It depends on what you're drawing, and how well you know your way around
the
software.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

I just downloaded and tried it. It couldn't be any easier. It's not AutoCAD
though.
Scout


"Wally" wrote
I just drew this 3D sketch of the example cog on the EMachineShop web site
in eleven minutes...
http://www.wally.myby.co.uk/cog.jpg

It's them extruded solids wot makes it.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Our school offers a variety of CAD programs; students select a specialty in
Mechanical / Marine or Architectural Drafting/Design. The program includes
training in AutoCAD 2004, Inventor 6, Architectural Desktop and Mechanical
Desktop.
From what I hear, a lot of machine shops prefer Mechanical Desktop.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Most of what you need milled for a boat would be better done by a local
millwright or even a forge and smitty. I have a metal lathe outback and a
smitty. I'm researching case hardening right now.

Cool site... but few could make use of it. I use AutoCAD light in my field
of work... but I would never attempt a complicated design with it.

CM

"Marc" wrote in message
...
| Just another tool in the neverending world of boat maintenence. Use it
| or don't
|
|
| On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 14:00:41 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
| Yeah sure Marc.... but how many people do you think can operate AutoCAD
| sufficiently well to design for lathe work and milling?
|
| CM
|
| "Marc" wrote in message
| .. .
| | sorry http://www.emachineshop.com/
|
|

Oddly enough the diagram of the cog from Wally shows AutoCAD 200 at the
Application Title.

CM

"Scout" wrote in message
...
| I just downloaded and tried it. It couldn't be any easier. It's not
AutoCAD
| though.
| Scout
|
|
| "Wally" wrote
| I just drew this 3D sketch of the example cog on the EMachineShop web
site
| in eleven minutes...
| http://www.wally.myby.co.uk/cog.jpg
|
| It's them extruded solids wot makes it.
|
|
| --
| Wally
| www.artbywally.com
| www.wally.myby.co.uk
|
|
|
|

Capt. Mooron wrote:

Oddly enough the diagram of the cog from Wally shows AutoCAD 200 at
the Application Title.

The point I was trying to make (albeit a little vaguely) was that timescales
can't really be put on these things.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

The software allows the user to export as AutoCAD, but the vast array of
tools don't exist (although this has some neat tools). It's not bad for
free, but there's a reason AutoCAD runs $2,000+ USD. I played around with
this a bit yesterday, and if I didn't already own several drawing packages
I'd use it for sure. It's not AutoCAD though. Check it out.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Oddly enough the diagram of the cog from Wally shows AutoCAD 200 at the
Application Title.

CM

"Scout" wrote in message
...
| I just downloaded and tried it. It couldn't be any easier. It's not
AutoCAD
| though.
| Scout
|
|
| "Wally" wrote
| I just drew this 3D sketch of the example cog on the EMachineShop web
site
| in eleven minutes...
| http://www.wally.myby.co.uk/cog.jpg
|
| It's them extruded solids wot makes it.
|
|
| --
| Wally
| www.artbywally.com
| www.wally.myby.co.uk
|
|
|
|

On second look, the free software wouldn't allow export to AutoCAD 2000,
only R12.
How did you get the "2000" on there Wally? Do you have 2000?
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Oddly enough the diagram of the cog from Wally shows AutoCAD 200 at the
Application Title.

CM

"Scout" wrote in message
...
| I just downloaded and tried it. It couldn't be any easier. It's not
AutoCAD
| though.
| Scout
|
|
| "Wally" wrote
| I just drew this 3D sketch of the example cog on the EMachineShop web
site
| in eleven minutes...
| http://www.wally.myby.co.uk/cog.jpg
|
| It's them extruded solids wot makes it.
|
|
| --
| Wally
| www.artbywally.com
| www.wally.myby.co.uk
|
|
|
|

I will do that Scout..... looks interesting. No time right now.

Currently I'm doing renovations on my brother's house..... 12 hours of
ripping out and replacing a damaged area so far. Outside corner, shingled,
tyvek, sills, studs and stringers from the foundation to the main floor and
a large deck. We should finish up today. All new wood.

Advise from the house inspector before we started " You 3 guys are going to
tackle this? You should hire a professional contractor for this" . Comment
from the same inspector 8 hours later... " Excellent work so far, you guys
should consider setting up a business" ....

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
| The software allows the user to export as AutoCAD, but the vast array of
| tools don't exist (although this has some neat tools). It's not bad for
| free, but there's a reason AutoCAD runs $2,000+ USD. I played around with
| this a bit yesterday, and if I didn't already own several drawing packages
| I'd use it for sure. It's not AutoCAD though. Check it out.
| Scout
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Oddly enough the diagram of the cog from Wally shows AutoCAD 200 at the
| Application Title.
|
| CM
|
| "Scout" wrote in message
| ...
| | I just downloaded and tried it. It couldn't be any easier. It's not
| AutoCAD
| | though.
| | Scout
| |
| |
| | "Wally" wrote
| | I just drew this 3D sketch of the example cog on the EMachineShop
web
| site
| | in eleven minutes...
| | http://www.wally.myby.co.uk/cog.jpg
| |
| | It's them extruded solids wot makes it.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Wally
| | www.artbywally.com
| | www.wally.myby.co.uk
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

I figured you'd do a good job. You 2x6's yr walls for extra insulation up
there, don't you?
Anyway, sounds like my summer. Remodeled two rooms, windows, new ceiling,
drywall, replaced rotted studs thanks to the previous builder who installed
windows improperly, new electric circuits, baseboard heat, repaired air
conditioning, new vinyl siding, yadda yadda. The only thing I hired help for
was to install the carpet and they screwed it up. I guess it's true what
they say: "if you want it done right . . . "
Looks gorgeous now though, and wifey is happy. Too bad we're selling the
place.
Scout

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
I will do that Scout..... looks interesting. No time right now.

Currently I'm doing renovations on my brother's house..... 12 hours of
ripping out and replacing a damaged area so far. Outside corner, shingled,
tyvek, sills, studs and stringers from the foundation to the main floor
and
a large deck. We should finish up today. All new wood.

Advise from the house inspector before we started " You 3 guys are going
to
tackle this? You should hire a professional contractor for this" . Comment
from the same inspector 8 hours later... " Excellent work so far, you guys
should consider setting up a business" ....

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
| The software allows the user to export as AutoCAD, but the vast array of
| tools don't exist (although this has some neat tools). It's not bad for
| free, but there's a reason AutoCAD runs $2,000+ USD. I played around
with
| this a bit yesterday, and if I didn't already own several drawing
packages
| I'd use it for sure. It's not AutoCAD though. Check it out.
| Scout
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| ...
| Oddly enough the diagram of the cog from Wally shows AutoCAD 200 at
the
| Application Title.
|
| CM
|
| "Scout" wrote in message
| ...
| | I just downloaded and tried it. It couldn't be any easier. It's not
| AutoCAD
| | though.
| | Scout
| |
| |
| | "Wally" wrote
| | I just drew this 3D sketch of the example cog on the EMachineShop
web
| site
| | in eleven minutes...
| | http://www.wally.myby.co.uk/cog.jpg
| |
| | It's them extruded solids wot makes it.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Wally
| | www.artbywally.com
| | www.wally.myby.co.uk
| |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

Scout wrote:
On second look, the free software wouldn't allow export to AutoCAD
2000, only R12.
How did you get the "2000" on there Wally? Do you have 2000?

Yup. I occasionally have the good fortune to get paid to drive it.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

It's great work when you can get it!
I work out of my home office in the summer months.
Scout

"Wally" wrote in message
...
Scout wrote:
On second look, the free software wouldn't allow export to AutoCAD
2000, only R12.
How did you get the "2000" on there Wally? Do you have 2000?

Yup. I occasionally have the good fortune to get paid to drive it.


--
Wally
www.artbywally.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk