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Jonathan Ganz August 30th 04 07:40 PM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On 29 Aug 2004 19:43:20 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap:

Bush learned to fly. He was never in any action. Kerry saw action and Bush has
defended that. Are you calling Bush a liar?


You are stupid, aren't you?


Let's see you be honest for once. George Bush has defended Kerry's war record.
Are you calling Bush a liar?


Not at all. Everyone knows that the French-looking John Kerry served
honorably, even if there is six months missing from his service record
after leaving Vietnam early.


Missing? I think he left the military the way he was supposed to,
unlike Bush who failed to show for his physical.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 30th 04 07:42 PM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
Not at all. My 22 years of honorable service was fully volunteered.
I could have got out at any time.


That's exactly what drug addicts say all the time. Were you a drug addict?
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Horvath August 30th 04 11:41 PM

On 30 Aug 2004 11:40:29 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:


Not at all. Everyone knows that the French-looking John Kerry served
honorably, even if there is six months missing from his service record
after leaving Vietnam early.


Missing? I think he left the military the way he was supposed to,



That's nonsense. The French-looking John Kerry enlisted in the Naval
Reserve, which, I believe, incurs a four year obligation. Kerry left
after a year and a half of honorable service. What about his missing
two-and-a-half years?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jonathan Ganz August 30th 04 11:58 PM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On 30 Aug 2004 11:40:29 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:
That's nonsense. The French-looking John Kerry enlisted in the Naval
Reserve, which, I believe, incurs a four year obligation. Kerry left
after a year and a half of honorable service. What about his missing
two-and-a-half years?


You're an idiot! At least get your facts right some of the time!
Everything you're said has been total hogwash. Every time you
mention Kerry, you claim he's French-looking... why? Does he
look like your boyfriend?

Please explain why Bush failed to show up for his physical?
Coincidentally, it was right around the time they started testing
for drugs.

When did Bush leave his "honorable" service? Was this after he
failed to show up for his physical and was declared unfit for
duty or was it after he failed to show up at his new command?
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


felton August 31st 04 02:16 AM

On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 18:41:27 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On 30 Aug 2004 11:40:29 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:


Not at all. Everyone knows that the French-looking John Kerry served
honorably, even if there is six months missing from his service record
after leaving Vietnam early.


Missing? I think he left the military the way he was supposed to,



That's nonsense. The French-looking John Kerry enlisted in the Naval
Reserve, which, I believe, incurs a four year obligation. Kerry left
after a year and a half of honorable service. What about his missing
two-and-a-half years?

And your information comes from where? Never mind, I know....rectal
extraction.

Kerry enlisted on February 18, 1966. His date of separation from
active duty was March 1, 1970.

Jonathan Ganz August 31st 04 02:28 AM

In article ,
felton wrote:
And your information comes from where? Never mind, I know....rectal
extraction.


Horass will be claiming that it was Clinton's fault.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Horvath August 31st 04 11:02 AM

On 30 Aug 2004 15:58:08 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

That's nonsense. The French-looking John Kerry enlisted in the Naval
Reserve, which, I believe, incurs a four year obligation. Kerry left
after a year and a half of honorable service. What about his missing
two-and-a-half years?


You're an idiot! At least get your facts right some of the time!
Everything you're said has been total hogwash.



Actually, everything I've said has been totally true. What about
Kerry's missing service?




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath August 31st 04 11:16 AM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 01:16:32 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


Not at all. Everyone knows that the French-looking John Kerry served
honorably, even if there is six months missing from his service record
after leaving Vietnam early.

Missing? I think he left the military the way he was supposed to,



And your information comes from where? Never mind, I know....rectal
extraction.

Kerry enlisted on February 18, 1966. His date of separation from
active duty was March 1, 1970.



-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In October 1969, while Kerry was still on active duty assigned to
Admiral Schlech, Kerry was flying Adam Walinsky (Robert F. Kennedy's
former speech writer), around New York state to deliver anti-war
speeches.
BY Jan. 3, 1970, Kerry had become so inspired by Walinsky's anti-war
beliefs that he petitioned Admiral Schlech, "to tell his boss that his
conscientious dictated that he protest the war, that he wanted out of
the Navy immediately so that he could run for congress."
Admiral Schlech consented and Kerry received an honorable discharge
from the Navy six months early.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjoh...com/page2.html

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What part of, "six months early" do you have problems understanding?






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Vito August 31st 04 01:55 PM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Horvath wrote:
Not at all. My 22 years of honorable service was fully volunteered.
I could have got out at any time.


That's exactly what drug addicts say all the time. Were you a drug addict?
--


Close. Most lifers I've known hate making everyday decisions like what to
wear, what to do, where to go, what to eat. The military makes them for you.
You wear the uniform of the day, go where and do what you're told, sleep
where you're told and eat what you're given. Convicts also find it so hard
to make these decisions after years of incarceration that many commit a
crime and go back within weeks of getting out. Imagine the security of
sleeping protected by guards, being waked up and fed, exercised and fed,
entertained and fed, then sent to your bed again, day after day, year after
year. Some find it addictive.



felton August 31st 04 02:40 PM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 06:02:34 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On 30 Aug 2004 15:58:08 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

That's nonsense. The French-looking John Kerry enlisted in the Naval
Reserve, which, I believe, incurs a four year obligation. Kerry left
after a year and a half of honorable service. What about his missing
two-and-a-half years?


You're an idiot! At least get your facts right some of the time!
Everything you're said has been total hogwash.



Actually, everything I've said has been totally true. What about
Kerry's missing service?

You are confusing Bush with Kerry. There is no missing service for
Kerry.

felton August 31st 04 02:47 PM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 06:16:14 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 01:16:32 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


Not at all. Everyone knows that the French-looking John Kerry served
honorably, even if there is six months missing from his service record
after leaving Vietnam early.

Missing? I think he left the military the way he was supposed to,


And your information comes from where? Never mind, I know....rectal
extraction.

Kerry enlisted on February 18, 1966. His date of separation from
active duty was March 1, 1970.



-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In October 1969, while Kerry was still on active duty assigned to
Admiral Schlech, Kerry was flying Adam Walinsky (Robert F. Kennedy's
former speech writer), around New York state to deliver anti-war
speeches.
BY Jan. 3, 1970, Kerry had become so inspired by Walinsky's anti-war
beliefs that he petitioned Admiral Schlech, "to tell his boss that his
conscientious dictated that he protest the war, that he wanted out of
the Navy immediately so that he could run for congress."
Admiral Schlech consented and Kerry received an honorable discharge
from the Navy six months early.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjoh...com/page2.html

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What part of, "six months early" do you have problems understanding?


Well, I suppose I could rely on the statements you have quoted that
John Kerry was released from the Navy "six months early", or I could
look at the dates and a calendar and see that if he enlisted on
February 18, 1966 and he was released on March 1, 1970, that appears
to be more than the four years you say he should have served. What
part of a caledar and counting to 4 do you not understand?

Here is the timeline, all supported by those pesky Navy records, in
case you want to check for yourself.

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_..._timeline.html



felton August 31st 04 03:12 PM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 06:16:14 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 01:16:32 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


Not at all. Everyone knows that the French-looking John Kerry served
honorably, even if there is six months missing from his service record
after leaving Vietnam early.

Missing? I think he left the military the way he was supposed to,


And your information comes from where? Never mind, I know....rectal
extraction.

Kerry enlisted on February 18, 1966. His date of separation from
active duty was March 1, 1970.



-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In October 1969, while Kerry was still on active duty assigned to
Admiral Schlech, Kerry was flying Adam Walinsky (Robert F. Kennedy's
former speech writer), around New York state to deliver anti-war
speeches.
BY Jan. 3, 1970, Kerry had become so inspired by Walinsky's anti-war
beliefs that he petitioned Admiral Schlech, "to tell his boss that his
conscientious dictated that he protest the war, that he wanted out of
the Navy immediately so that he could run for congress."
Admiral Schlech consented and Kerry received an honorable discharge
from the Navy six months early.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjoh...com/page2.html

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What part of, "six months early" do you have problems understanding?

Horvath...just thought I would point out a couple of things about your
source of this "information"


"This new round of attacks comes from a familiar name -- Ted Sampley
-- who has a long history of irrational public attacks against both
John McCain and John Kerry. In 1992 Sampley created a fake photo of
John Kerry shooting an American MIA. He has been jailed for starting a
fight with John McCain's staff, and has called McCain the Manchurian
Candidate, accusing him of being "brainwashed by the Vietnamese" and
being a "KGB spy."

Ted Sampley is now the head of "Vietnam Veterans Against Kerry" and a
supporter of "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth." He has been telling lies
about John Kerry, and today he launched an extraordinarily false ad
smearing John Kerry's military service."

So basically you are quoting a raving lunatic as your factual source.
Just thought you might like to know.



Jonathan Ganz August 31st 04 06:52 PM

In article ,
Vito wrote:
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Horvath wrote:
Not at all. My 22 years of honorable service was fully volunteered.
I could have got out at any time.


That's exactly what drug addicts say all the time. Were you a drug addict?
--


Close. Most lifers I've known hate making everyday decisions like what to
wear, what to do, where to go, what to eat. The military makes them for you.
You wear the uniform of the day, go where and do what you're told, sleep
where you're told and eat what you're given. Convicts also find it so hard
to make these decisions after years of incarceration that many commit a
crime and go back within weeks of getting out. Imagine the security of
sleeping protected by guards, being waked up and fed, exercised and fed,
entertained and fed, then sent to your bed again, day after day, year after
year. Some find it addictive.


Well good for you! And this has prepared you for the real world how?

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 31st 04 06:53 PM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On 30 Aug 2004 15:58:08 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

You're an idiot! At least get your facts right some of the time!
Everything you're said has been total hogwash.


Actually, everything I've said has been totally true. What about
Kerry's missing service?


Which missing service? The part where he was the hero or where he was
wounded in combat?
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz August 31st 04 06:55 PM

In article ,
felton wrote:
Well, I suppose I could rely on the statements you have quoted that
John Kerry was released from the Navy "six months early", or I could
look at the dates and a calendar and see that if he enlisted on
February 18, 1966 and he was released on March 1, 1970, that appears
to be more than the four years you say he should have served. What
part of a caledar and counting to 4 do you not understand?

Here is the timeline, all supported by those pesky Navy records, in
case you want to check for yourself.

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_..._timeline.html


Felton, you should know by now that Horass is only interested in
winning fags, I mean flags.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Horvath September 1st 04 12:04 AM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 08:55:47 -0400, "Vito" wrote
this crap:

Close. Most lifers I've known hate making everyday decisions like what to
wear, what to do, where to go, what to eat. The military makes them for you.
You wear the uniform of the day, go where and do what you're told, sleep
where you're told and eat what you're given.



I was an officer. I was the one making those decisions and telling
those people what to do.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath September 1st 04 12:09 AM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:40:52 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


Actually, everything I've said has been totally true. What about
Kerry's missing service?

You are confusing Bush with Kerry. There is no missing service for
Kerry.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In October 1969, while Kerry was still on active duty assigned to
Admiral Schlech, Kerry was flying Adam Walinsky (Robert F. Kennedy's
former speech writer), around New York state to deliver anti-war
speeches.
BY Jan. 3, 1970, Kerry had become so inspired by Walinsky's anti-war
beliefs that he petitioned Admiral Schlech, "to tell his boss that his
conscientious dictated that he protest the war, that he wanted out of
the Navy immediately so that he could run for congress."
Admiral Schlech consented and Kerry received an honorable discharge
from the Navy six months early.
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjoh...com/page2.html
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

And here's another source:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kerry served with Admiral Schlech until the end of 1969, when he
requested an early discharge from the Navy in order to run for a
Massachusetts congressional seat. Admiral Schlech approved the
request, and on 3 January 1970 Kerry received an honorable discharge,
six months early.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Now what part of "six months early" do you have trouble understanding?






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath September 1st 04 12:19 AM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 13:47:47 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


Kerry enlisted on February 18, 1966. His date of separation from
active duty was March 1, 1970.




Well, I suppose I could rely on the statements you have quoted that
John Kerry was released from the Navy "six months early", or I could
look at the dates and a calendar and see that if he enlisted on
February 18, 1966 and he was released on March 1, 1970, that appears
to be more than the four years you say he should have served. What
part of a caledar and counting to 4 do you not understand?



While doing more checking, I found this information:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In total, Kerry served on active duty for three and a half years, from
August 1966 until March 1970. He was transferred to the Naval Reserve
in 1970, and was later transferred to the Standby Reserve in 1972,
where he no longer was required to participate in Reserve activities.
He received his honorable discharge in 1978.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ke...281966-1970.29
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

It sure looks to me like there's some gaps in the French-looking John
Kerry's records.

Like what was he doing between 1970 and 1978? looks to me like he was
AWOL for EIGHT YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!

What say you to that?







Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath September 1st 04 12:22 AM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:12:03 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


What part of, "six months early" do you have problems understanding?

Horvath...just thought I would point out a couple of things about your
source of this "information"


You can't argue against the facts, so you attack the source.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kerry served with Admiral Schlech until the end of 1969, when he
requested an early discharge from the Navy in order to run for a
Massachusetts congressional seat. Admiral Schlech approved the
request, and on 3 January 1970 Kerry received an honorable discharge,
six months early.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now go ahead and attact snopes. I love making you liberals cry.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath September 1st 04 12:25 AM

On 31 Aug 2004 10:53:30 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

Actually, everything I've said has been totally true. What about
Kerry's missing service?


Which missing service? The part where he was the hero or where he was
wounded in combat?



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In total, Kerry served on active duty for three and a half years, from
August 1966 until March 1970. He was transferred to the Naval Reserve
in 1970, and was later transferred to the Standby Reserve in 1972,
where he no longer was required to participate in Reserve activities.
He received his honorable discharge in 1978.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ke...281966-1970.29
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Looks to me like he was AWOL for eight years.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

felton September 1st 04 12:45 AM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:22:55 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:12:03 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


What part of, "six months early" do you have problems understanding?

Horvath...just thought I would point out a couple of things about your
source of this "information"


You can't argue against the facts, so you attack the source.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kerry served with Admiral Schlech until the end of 1969, when he
requested an early discharge from the Navy in order to run for a
Massachusetts congressional seat. Admiral Schlech approved the
request, and on 3 January 1970 Kerry received an honorable discharge,
six months early.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now go ahead and attact snopes. I love making you liberals cry.

Attack the source. Ted Sampley? Yeah, he is about as nutty as you
appear to be.

Here is a copy of his official Service Record

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...ice_Record.pdf

You can see all the Navy records at

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_...y_records.html





felton September 1st 04 12:49 AM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:25:12 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On 31 Aug 2004 10:53:30 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

Actually, everything I've said has been totally true. What about
Kerry's missing service?


Which missing service? The part where he was the hero or where he was
wounded in combat?



-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In total, Kerry served on active duty for three and a half years, from
August 1966 until March 1970. He was transferred to the Naval Reserve
in 1970, and was later transferred to the Standby Reserve in 1972,
where he no longer was required to participate in Reserve activities.
He received his honorable discharge in 1978.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ke...281966-1970.29
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Looks to me like he was AWOL for eight years.

How is someone AWOL from when they are no longer required to
participate in Reserve activities? He was subject to recall, but that
doesn't make him AWOL.

Again, you appear to be confusing Bush with Kerry. On second thought,
you just appear confused. Further, his enlistment date was February
18, 1966, not August.

Jonathan Ganz September 1st 04 02:31 AM

Give us a break. You can't even tell your bf what to do.

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
I was an officer. I was the one making those decisions and telling
those people what to do.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 1st 04 02:33 AM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
Now what part of "six months early" do you have trouble understanding?


Oh, I see... you were six months premature.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 1st 04 02:34 AM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
Looks to me like he was AWOL for eight years.


Good one! Now that's what we call spin!

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 1st 04 02:35 AM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
It sure looks to me like there's some gaps in the French-looking John
Kerry's records.


Whooow... he's back to being French-looking... time for your meds
Horass.
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 1st 04 02:36 AM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
Now go ahead and attact snopes. I love making you liberals cry.


English please.... this is America.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Horvath September 1st 04 05:21 AM

On 31 Aug 2004 18:35:58 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
It sure looks to me like there's some gaps in the French-looking John
Kerry's records.


Whooow... he's back to being French-looking... time for your meds
Horass.



It's quite obvious to everyone that you didn't answer the question,
Jon-boy.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath September 1st 04 05:27 AM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:45:43 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:22:55 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:12:03 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


What part of, "six months early" do you have problems understanding?

Horvath...just thought I would point out a couple of things about your
source of this "information"


You can't argue against the facts, so you attack the source.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kerry served with Admiral Schlech until the end of 1969, when he
requested an early discharge from the Navy in order to run for a
Massachusetts congressional seat. Admiral Schlech approved the
request, and on 3 January 1970 Kerry received an honorable discharge,
six months early.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now go ahead and attact snopes. I love making you liberals cry.

Attack the source. Ted Sampley? Yeah, he is about as nutty as you
appear to be.

Here is a copy of his official Service Record

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...ice_Record.pdf

You can see all the Navy records at

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_...y_records.html



I've seen them. His Honorable Discharge is dated 1978.

That means there is eight missing years. Could the French-looking
John Kerry have been AWOL for eight years?

BTW, the difference between AWOL and desertion is that deserters never
intend to return. A deserter throws away his uniform. I've heard
that the French-looking John Kerry threw away his medals in front of
witnesses. A very good case can be made that Kerry was a deserter.







Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Horvath September 1st 04 05:32 AM

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:49:07 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In total, Kerry served on active duty for three and a half years, from
August 1966 until March 1970. He was transferred to the Naval Reserve
in 1970, and was later transferred to the Standby Reserve in 1972,
where he no longer was required to participate in Reserve activities.
He received his honorable discharge in 1978.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ke...281966-1970.29
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Looks to me like he was AWOL for eight years.

How is someone AWOL from when they are no longer required to
participate in Reserve activities? He was subject to recall, but that
doesn't make him AWOL.



But I don't understand. Whacko liberals like Michael Moore have been
saying that President George W. Bush was AWOL for those very same
reasons.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Vito September 1st 04 12:46 PM

"Horvath" wrote

I was an officer. I was the one making those decisions and telling
those people what to do.


Kool! So you got to sleep in and wear whatever you liked?



felton September 1st 04 02:52 PM

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 00:27:53 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 23:45:43 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 19:22:55 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Aug 2004 14:12:03 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


What part of, "six months early" do you have problems understanding?

Horvath...just thought I would point out a couple of things about your
source of this "information"

You can't argue against the facts, so you attack the source.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kerry served with Admiral Schlech until the end of 1969, when he
requested an early discharge from the Navy in order to run for a
Massachusetts congressional seat. Admiral Schlech approved the
request, and on 3 January 1970 Kerry received an honorable discharge,
six months early.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/service.asp
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now go ahead and attact snopes. I love making you liberals cry.

Attack the source. Ted Sampley? Yeah, he is about as nutty as you
appear to be.

Here is a copy of his official Service Record

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...ice_Record.pdf

You can see all the Navy records at

http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_...y_records.html



I've seen them. His Honorable Discharge is dated 1978.

That means there is eight missing years. Could the French-looking
John Kerry have been AWOL for eight years?

BTW, the difference between AWOL and desertion is that deserters never
intend to return. A deserter throws away his uniform. I've heard
that the French-looking John Kerry threw away his medals in front of
witnesses. A very good case can be made that Kerry was a deserter.

Only to a jury of pinheads. Every Navy military record for John Kerry
is posted for you to read. The Navy knew exactly where he was. Bush,
on the other hand "was not observed during the period in question."
If your claim is that Bush was somehow in inactive reserve status in
the Texas Air National Guard for those last 18 months, that is news to
the Texas Air Nationa Guard. Same with the failure to maintain his
flight status by not taking the required physical. Are you suggesting
that those records were lost?


Jonathan Ganz September 1st 04 07:40 PM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On 31 Aug 2004 18:35:58 -0700, (Jonathan
Ganz) wrote this crap:

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
It sure looks to me like there's some gaps in the French-looking John
Kerry's records.


Whooow... he's back to being French-looking... time for your meds
Horass.



It's quite obvious to everyone that you didn't answer the question,
Jon-boy.


Well, you still haven't answered the question about how you acquired
your tits, but we're (thankfully) not holding them against you.
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Horvath September 2nd 04 12:10 PM

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 13:52:31 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


I've seen them. His Honorable Discharge is dated 1978.

That means there is eight missing years. Could the French-looking
John Kerry have been AWOL for eight years?

BTW, the difference between AWOL and desertion is that deserters never
intend to return. A deserter throws away his uniform. I've heard
that the French-looking John Kerry threw away his medals in front of
witnesses. A very good case can be made that Kerry was a deserter.

Only to a jury of pinheads. Every Navy military record for John Kerry
is posted for you to read. The Navy knew exactly where he was. Bush,
on the other hand "was not observed during the period in question."
If your claim is that Bush was somehow in inactive reserve status in
the Texas Air National Guard for those last 18 months, that is news to
the Texas Air Nationa Guard. Same with the failure to maintain his
flight status by not taking the required physical. Are you suggesting
that those records were lost?



You just can't keep your lies straight, can you? President Honest
George W. Bush spent the last part of his service in the Alabama
National Guard, not the Texas National Guard, and he was in an
innactive position.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

felton September 2nd 04 02:39 PM

On Thu, 02 Sep 2004 07:10:12 -0400, Horvath
wrote:

On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 13:52:31 GMT, felton wrote
this crap:


I've seen them. His Honorable Discharge is dated 1978.

That means there is eight missing years. Could the French-looking
John Kerry have been AWOL for eight years?

BTW, the difference between AWOL and desertion is that deserters never
intend to return. A deserter throws away his uniform. I've heard
that the French-looking John Kerry threw away his medals in front of
witnesses. A very good case can be made that Kerry was a deserter.

Only to a jury of pinheads. Every Navy military record for John Kerry
is posted for you to read. The Navy knew exactly where he was. Bush,
on the other hand "was not observed during the period in question."
If your claim is that Bush was somehow in inactive reserve status in
the Texas Air National Guard for those last 18 months, that is news to
the Texas Air Nationa Guard. Same with the failure to maintain his
flight status by not taking the required physical. Are you suggesting
that those records were lost?



You just can't keep your lies straight, can you? President Honest
George W. Bush spent the last part of his service in the Alabama
National Guard, not the Texas National Guard, and he was in an
innactive position.

He was inactive alright, but he was the only one who knew it.

DSK September 2nd 04 05:18 PM

Horvath wrote:
You just can't keep your lies straight, can you? President Honest
George W. Bush spent the last part of his service in the Alabama
National Guard, not the Texas National Guard, and he was in an
innactive position.


felton wrote:
He was inactive alright, but he was the only one who knew it.


Well, there you go. If you have the right family connections, you can
assign *yourself* to one of these cushy inactive positions.

DSK


Jonathan Ganz September 2nd 04 07:34 PM

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
You just can't keep your lies straight, can you? President Honest
George W. Bush spent the last part of his service in the Alabama
National Guard, not the Texas National Guard, and he was in an
innactive position.


You're right! I'm amazed. GWB was innactive because he was drunk under
the table.

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Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."



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