Go Home Please says the "Band of Brothers"
John Kerry's service in Vietnam lasted 4 months and 12 days, beginning
in November 1968 when he reported to Cam Rahn Bay for a month of training. His abbreviated combat tour ended shortly after he requested a transfer out of Vietnam on March 17, 1969, citing Navy instruction 1300.39 permitting personnel with three Purple Hearts to request reassignment. So far as we are able to determine, Kerry was the only Swift sailor ever to leave Vietnam without completing the standard one-year tour of duty, other than those who were seriously wounded or killed. It is clear that at least one of Kerry's Purple Heart awards was the result of his own negligence, not enemy fire, and that Kerry went to unusual lengths to obtain the award after being turned down by his own commanding officer. John Kerry has long insisted that using the three-injury loophole to leave combat early was his own idea, but Kerry's fellow Swift officer Thomas Wright, who served on occasion as the OIC (Officer in Charge) of Kerry's boat group, contradicts that claim. Wright reports that he "had a lot of trouble getting Kerry to follow orders," and that those who worked with Kerry found him "oriented towards his personal, rather than unit goals and objectives." He therefore requested that Kerry be removed from his boat group. After John Kerry qualified for his third Purple Heart, Thomas Wright and two fellow officers informed him of the obscure regulation, and told him to go home. Wright concluded, "We knew how the system worked and we didn't want him in Coastal Division 11." Constructing a complete picture of Kerry's service is difficult due to gaps in the Naval records provided by the Kerry campaign. These gaps include missing and incomplete fitness reports, missing medical records and missing records related to his medal awards. For this reason we call upon Senator Kerry to authorize complete access to all his military records by filing a standard Form 180, a simple two-page release form. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is in the process of researching John Kerry's time in Vietnam by conducting interviews with eyewitnesses to his activities, and we plan to add material to this section over the next several weeks as it becomes available. We will report the true circumstances of Kerry's medal awards and injuries, describe other controversial missions, and provide in-depth analysis of his fitness reports. .. Kerry's Medals 1st Purple Heart: December 2, 1968 2nd Purple Heart: February 20, 1969 Silver Star: February 28, 1969 Bronze Star / 3rd Purple Heart: March 13, 1969 Other Missions Sampan Incident: January 20, 1969. Was Teddy Kennedy and the Kennedy family pulling strings for Kerry in the Navy during JFK's Vietnam War? Why is Kerry refusing to release his records? http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/graphics/morphws.HTML http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/in...pic=Historians Also when will his wife release her tax returns showing she is worth $3 billion. She loaned money to his campaign and is giving money to liberal political groups. Americans have a right to know. Joe |
A load of crap as usual from Karl Rove and the Bush attack dogs.
**** you Karl Rove. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message om... bs deleted |
Lies, all lies!
John Kerry lept upon a hand grenade and covered it with his body to protect his fellow sailors. He turned down a purple heart for it and has kept the whole story hush-hush. "Joe" wrote in message om... John Kerry's service in Vietnam lasted 4 months and 12 days, beginning in November 1968 when he reported to Cam Rahn Bay for a month of training. His abbreviated combat tour ended shortly after he requested a transfer out of Vietnam on March 17, 1969, citing Navy instruction 1300.39 permitting personnel with three Purple Hearts to request reassignment. So far as we are able to determine, Kerry was the only Swift sailor ever to leave Vietnam without completing the standard one-year tour of duty, other than those who were seriously wounded or killed. It is clear that at least one of Kerry's Purple Heart awards was the result of his own negligence, not enemy fire, and that Kerry went to unusual lengths to obtain the award after being turned down by his own commanding officer. John Kerry has long insisted that using the three-injury loophole to leave combat early was his own idea, but Kerry's fellow Swift officer Thomas Wright, who served on occasion as the OIC (Officer in Charge) of Kerry's boat group, contradicts that claim. Wright reports that he "had a lot of trouble getting Kerry to follow orders," and that those who worked with Kerry found him "oriented towards his personal, rather than unit goals and objectives." He therefore requested that Kerry be removed from his boat group. After John Kerry qualified for his third Purple Heart, Thomas Wright and two fellow officers informed him of the obscure regulation, and told him to go home. Wright concluded, "We knew how the system worked and we didn't want him in Coastal Division 11." Constructing a complete picture of Kerry's service is difficult due to gaps in the Naval records provided by the Kerry campaign. These gaps include missing and incomplete fitness reports, missing medical records and missing records related to his medal awards. For this reason we call upon Senator Kerry to authorize complete access to all his military records by filing a standard Form 180, a simple two-page release form. Swift Boat Veterans for Truth is in the process of researching John Kerry's time in Vietnam by conducting interviews with eyewitnesses to his activities, and we plan to add material to this section over the next several weeks as it becomes available. We will report the true circumstances of Kerry's medal awards and injuries, describe other controversial missions, and provide in-depth analysis of his fitness reports. . Kerry's Medals 1st Purple Heart: December 2, 1968 2nd Purple Heart: February 20, 1969 Silver Star: February 28, 1969 Bronze Star / 3rd Purple Heart: March 13, 1969 Other Missions Sampan Incident: January 20, 1969. Was Teddy Kennedy and the Kennedy family pulling strings for Kerry in the Navy during JFK's Vietnam War? Why is Kerry refusing to release his records? http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/graphics/morphws.HTML http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/in...pic=Historians Also when will his wife release her tax returns showing she is worth $3 billion. She loaned money to his campaign and is giving money to liberal political groups. Americans have a right to know. Joe |
Joe wrote:
crap deleted Hanging out with the Freetards again, Joe? You do know that they're playing you for a sucker, don't you? Do yourself a favor and get off of the kook sites for awhile. Otherwise your tin-foil hat may become permanent. -- // Walt // // There is no Volkl Conspiracy |
Hey Joe,
How about you give a report on Bush's Vietnam Tour as to compare it with Kerry's. You can even use Cheney's time to help King George. You can even use the Swift Boat Lairs to match Bush's Time vs Kerry's Joe, you're making yourself look stupid by criticizing Kerry service time vs Bush's Zero time. DOESN'T COMPUTE! Ole Thom |
Cheney had other priorities.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Hey Joe, How about you give a report on Bush's Vietnam Tour as to compare it with Kerry's. You can even use Cheney's time to help King George. You can even use the Swift Boat Lairs to match Bush's Time vs Kerry's Joe, you're making yourself look stupid by criticizing Kerry service time vs Bush's Zero time. DOESN'T COMPUTE! Ole Thom |
"Joe" wrote in message
om... John Kerry's service in Vietnam lasted 4 months and 12 days, ..... Just for arguement, let's say Kerry's tour was a complete BJ - that he screwed up every mission, got himself wounded every time he encountered an enemy, and got sent home early. Well, at least he volunteered and tried. Meanwhile, our favorite village idiot was sleeping off another drunk in some frat house, unable to make his physical. Or was he afraid of what drugs that physical might show?? And who's pushing this crap? A Bush front group, as bad as Hitler's Brown Shirts, playing talking heads for a Bush speech writer who's desperate to divert attention from what Bush has done to us. That out of context excerpt from Kerry's Senate speech shows how sneakin dishonest they are. "Two hundred people told me Joe is gay" is hardly the same as "Joe is gay". Fact is, there were atrocities. Out of all the 1000s of low class kids (rich kids didn't go) we sent to 'nam, do you really think that none of them were sadistic SOBs before they went and after they got there? Jeeze, I went to school with dudes who thot that setting other kids on fire or throwing them under cars was fine sport! Rape? They raped their classmates - male and female. What do you think they did in 'nam? Saying there were no perv's is almost as honest as saying you were all pervs. But maybe you were. Maybe y'all hate Kerry 'cuz the truth is too close to home, eh? eh? |
Bush is not out bragging and touting his service time as a reason he
should be re-elected. He would if he could. Don't be so silly. Bush would be all over it if he ever served worth a damn. RB |
Kerry on
the other hand will not address the issues that matter, Idiot. Kerry has addressed all the issues quite clearly. You're the one who is focused on this issue. RB |
Your just a left wing winnie that would let the French make you and
your country look like a pansy ville. Joe, been to Europe recently? I was. Been to Canada or Tokyo? My father was. You have simply zero concept of how this country's reputation has dwindled since Bush has been office. You're living in a microcosm that does not reflect any reality. I'm stunned that ANY republican can support Bush at this point. He's NO republican and that's for certain. RB |
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On 23 Aug 2004 22:45:33 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this
crap: Kerry on the other hand will not address the issues that matter, Idiot. Kerry has addressed all the issues quite clearly. You're the one who is focused on this issue. Oh, yeah! Like fighting a "sensitive" war. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:26:42 -0400, Horvath
wrote: On 23 Aug 2004 22:44:35 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this crap: Bush is not out bragging and touting his service time as a reason he should be re-elected. He would if he could. Don't be so silly. Bush would be all over it if he ever served worth a damn. He was a fighter pilot. What did you ever do? Fighter pilot? Who was he fighting? I don't recall the North Vietnamese attacking Texas. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 22:27:46 -0400, Horvath
wrote: On 23 Aug 2004 22:45:33 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote this crap: Kerry on the other hand will not address the issues that matter, Idiot. Kerry has addressed all the issues quite clearly. You're the one who is focused on this issue. Oh, yeah! Like fighting a "sensitive" war. Now I am going to give you a chance to rethink that before I bust you for the stupidity of that statement. You are welcome. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
Sure Bob, Just like you were watching 911 on a 40" plasma screen on a
friends boat. Here's the boat... http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/atayb.jpg And here I am at the wheel... http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/atay.jpg She's a new Tayana 48 and I'll be sailing her today. Yup, she does have a plasma set. Nice boat. You lose again, Joe. RB |
But then
again we usually do not mix politics with business. So then you admit you have no idea of how this country's rep has fallen. Unlike you I have more important things to do then talk down our president. Joe, I've been posting here for the last 48 hours while you've had "time" to post anti Kerry crap all summer. Bwahahahaha! Busted again. But then again most are looking at wanting to come here to the USA and work so they do not dwell on things that might be taken the wrong way. So again you admit you have no idea of how this country is percieved. Thanks for supporting my point, dopey! What an idiot you STILL are! RB |
He would if he could. Don't be so silly. Bush would be all over it if he ever
served worth a damn. He was a fighter pilot. Quick, someone sell Horvath another Hunter. You can fool some of the people ALL of the time. RB |
Yeah, when he actually flew, he was defending us from Mexicans.
In article , Horvath wrote: He was a fighter pilot. What did you ever do? -- Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m) http://www.sailnow.com "If there's no wind, row." |
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Good Grief Bob... have you ever packed on the pounds!!
Look at those flabby arms!! CM "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... | Sure Bob, Just like you were watching 911 on a 40" plasma screen on a | friends boat. | | | Here's the boat... | http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/atayb.jpg | And here I am at the wheel... | http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/atay.jpg | | She's a new Tayana 48 and I'll be sailing her today. Yup, she does have a | plasma set. Nice boat. You lose again, Joe. | | RB |
Good Grief Bob... have you ever packed on the pounds!!
Look at those flabby arms!! Yeah? Great post, Mooron. Notice that I'm sailing. Did a lot of that this summer while you stayed home and typed messages to Loco and Horvath. RB |
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... | Good Grief Bob... have you ever packed on the pounds!! | | Look at those flabby arms!! | | | Yeah? Great post, Mooron. Notice that I'm sailing. Did a lot of that this | summer while you stayed home and typed messages to Loco and Horvath. Well buddy if you did all that sailing... how in the hell did you gain that weight... and why aren't your arms reflecting the workload of sail hoists?? Look man... it's for your own good I'm doing this. You are truly slipping in regards to muscle tone. It looks like you've packed on 40 lbs but I'm crediting the camera with at least 10 of those. I sailed this weekend... single handing. My muscle tone is more than excellent... it's fantastic. ....and BTW Bob... had you raised to your obligations regarding Loco... I wouldn't have been forced to take on the extra load to slap him around for you!!! CM |
(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
Sure Bob, Just like you were watching 911 on a 40" plasma screen on a friends boat. Here's the boat... http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/atayb.jpg And here I am at the wheel... http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/atay.jpg She's a new Tayana 48 and I'll be sailing her today. Yup, she does have a plasma set. Nice boat. You lose again, Joe. RB I do not doubt you were on a nicer boat than your wifes C&C, and I do not doubt they had a 40" Plasma screen TV. Many people have fine boats and TV's. Remember you said you were studying Moore's propaganda on the friend Tayana 48? So how did you get a copy of the film 911 Bobsprit? It's not out on DVD or VHS. Did you or you friend rip it off? I would think someone in the biz would be against stealing anothers directors work.. Guess not huh? So are you a liar, or just a thief? You lose again:o) Hope Suzy is doing well! I wish the best for you both come b-day. Joe |
"Joe" wrote in message | I do not doubt you were on a nicer boat than your wifes C&C, and I do | not doubt they had a 40" Plasma screen TV. Many people have fine boats | and TV's. How can you say that Joe... unless we actually see the picture of the 40" plasma screen!!! All I saw was a boat and chubby Bob! | Hope Suzy is doing well! I wish the best for you both come b-day. Same here Bob.... ;-) CM |
So how did you get a copy of the film 911 Bobsprit? It's
not out on DVD or VHS. Poor Joe!!! It's called an academy screener mailed out to people in the biz. Keep trying Joe! Meanwhile, you're BUSTED AGAIN! In an hour I'll be enjoying a night sail while you cry over my posts! RB |
Hope Suzy is doing well! I wish the best for you both come b-day.
Dialated 1 CM today, so we changed our plans to sail tonight instead of a daysail. Doctor says she could deliver tomorrow or two weeks from now...all very exciting. RB |
| Hope Suzy is doing well! I wish the best for you both come b-day.
Same here Bob.... ;-) Thanks, Mooron. It'll be very soon and I'll be a father. I'm buying him a dinghy in a couple of years! RB |
Look man... it's for your own good I'm doing this. You are truly slipping in
regards to muscle tone. It looks like you've packed on 40 lbs but I'm crediting the camera with at least 10 of those. Shhhh. I'm enjoying some peanut M&Ms. RB |
and BTW Bob... had you raised to your obligations regarding Loco... I
wouldn't have been forced to take on the extra load to slap him around for you!!! I did catch some of the beating you handed him. Loco's not the least bit creative, so it's a bit sad to attack him. You really thrashed him, perhaps even harder than I usually do. Mercy is a virtue, mooron. RB |
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... | and BTW Bob... had you raised to your obligations regarding Loco... I | wouldn't have been forced to take on the extra load to slap him around for | you!!! | | | I did catch some of the beating you handed him. Loco's not the least bit | creative, so it's a bit sad to attack him. You really thrashed him, perhaps | even harder than I usually do. Mercy is a virtue, mooron. Yes... even the Ice Queen...Katysails.... felt a tinge of pity pierce her permafrost! CM |
"felton" wrote in message
... On 24 Aug 2004 10:18:54 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz) wrote: Yeah, when he actually flew, he was defending us from Mexicans. No...Oklahoma. Every real Texan knows the Border Patrol is guarding the wrong river:) That's a fact. Y'see some Okies who went to California during the 'Grapes of Wrath' period stayed and some came back, but they all got rich. Now those who returned are jealous of their brethern who not only own California but have a "Baja California" to party on. So the returnees are planning to buy Texas and rename it "Baja Oklahoma". |
"felton" wrote: On 24 Aug 2004 10:18:54 -0700, (Jonathan Ganz) wrote: Yeah, when he actually flew, he was defending us from Mexicans. No...Oklahoma. Every real Texan knows the Border Patrol is guarding the wrong river:) Nice troll, felton. You're just mad because we always whip you guys at football. Remember the old joke: Why is it so windy in Oklahoma? A. Because Kansas blows and Texas sucks. ;-) LP |
"Vito" wrote: "felton" wrote: No...Oklahoma. Every real Texan knows the Border Patrol is guarding the wrong river:) That's a fact. Y'see some Okies who went to California during the 'Grapes of Wrath' period stayed and some came back, but they all got rich. They did? I need to talk to my Grandmother about my inheritance! Now those who returned are jealous of their brethern who not only own California but have a "Baja California" to party on. So the returnees are planning to buy Texas and rename it "Baja Oklahoma". Sounds good to me! LP |
Vito,
If you know of any documentation that supports this claim, how about sharing them? I cover this story with my class and I'm always looking for interesting, factual tidbits to include. Scout "Vito" wrote That's a fact. Y'see some Okies who went to California during the 'Grapes of Wrath' period stayed and some came back, but they all got rich. |
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