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Bart Senior August 7th 04 03:52 AM

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I used to be confused on horse color combinations.
Now I have a headache.

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Pony Express August 7th 04 10:25 AM

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Wow! That brings back memories of a past life.
In 84 - 88 (or so), the president of the vet
school was acting president of Virginia Tech.
During that time, the VT mounted police was
formed. Of course, as soon as the new president
came on the scene, the budget was cut and they
were history.
S.

"Bart Senior" wrote in
message
. net...
: I used to be confused on horse color
combinations.
: Now I have a headache.
:
: http://members.aol.com/MFTHorses/sponenbg.htm
:
:
:
:


katysails August 7th 04 01:33 PM

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Used to mystify me, when I was still in the breeding business, the people
who would tell me they chose my stallion because he was chestnut and then
would produce a bay mare...The only people who place much importance on
breeding for color and pattern are the Paint, Appaloosa, and Pinto
people....specific breeds don't have the problem at all: Cleveland Bays had
better be bay or you know something funny's gone on down the genetic line.
The quarter horse people get all wrapped up in producing palominos and
buckskins, but that's playing a whole lot of recessives off each other and
you have to know generations three back to get any degree of accuracy.
Another thing that people don't take into consideration is that the mare
produces 50% of the gene pool, so unless she carries some powerful
recessives, a skanky hipshot, over at the pasterns mare bred to wouldn't
produce a winner, race wise or conformation wise. You have to start with a
good mare and then find a good stallion. You can't improve bloodlines with
bad mares...you're just throwing in a lot of bad recessives. BTW, even
though I am interested in this subject, what does it have to do with
sailing?

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Flying Tadpole August 7th 04 03:51 PM

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katysails wrote:

snip BTW, even
though I am interested in this subject, what does it have to do with
sailing?


They pull prairie schooners?
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katysails August 7th 04 04:02 PM

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They pull prairie schooners?
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Bad...very bad....

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Joe August 7th 04 11:22 PM

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message .net...
I used to be confused on horse color combinations.
Now I have a headache.

http://members.aol.com/MFTHorses/sponenbg.htm



Did you see Hildago? Just came out in video.


Joe

Bart Senior August 7th 04 11:50 PM

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I'm still trying to figure out how to fit a horse on my boat.

I need a bigger boat.

This came about because I watched Master and Commander
last night--picked up the DVD. It reminded me of all the
animals fuond on boats. I also picked up Hildago and much
of the movie was about the Spanish horses that became
Mustangs.

"katysails" wrote

Used to mystify me, when I was still in the breeding business, the people
who would tell me they chose my stallion because he was chestnut and then
would produce a bay mare...The only people who place much importance on
breeding for color and pattern are the Paint, Appaloosa, and Pinto
people....specific breeds don't have the problem at all: Cleveland Bays

had
better be bay or you know something funny's gone on down the genetic line.
The quarter horse people get all wrapped up in producing palominos and
buckskins, but that's playing a whole lot of recessives off each other and
you have to know generations three back to get any degree of accuracy.
Another thing that people don't take into consideration is that the mare
produces 50% of the gene pool, so unless she carries some powerful
recessives, a skanky hipshot, over at the pasterns mare bred to wouldn't
produce a winner, race wise or conformation wise. You have to start with

a
good mare and then find a good stallion. You can't improve bloodlines

with
bad mares...you're just throwing in a lot of bad recessives. BTW, even
though I am interested in this subject, what does it have to do with
sailing?

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Flying Tadpole August 8th 04 01:12 AM

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katysails wrote:

They pull prairie schooners?
--
Flying Tadpole

Bad...very bad....


Well...you asked the question, don't complain about the answer.

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katysails August 8th 04 11:23 PM

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I'm still trying to figure out how to fit a horse on my boat.

Did the boat/horse thing for years...got very tiring after awhile, so when
the city people began to migrate out to where we live, I slowly started
selling off the hroses until I was down to my one favorite....boating won
out in the end, though, when I was trting to run a business, show the horse,
and sail....you can onl;y spread yourslef so thing and then something's
gotta give...I still get catalos and magazines and stuff and have to slap
myslef when I start getting teary eyed over horses.....

--
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s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

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katysails August 8th 04 11:24 PM

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Well...you asked the question, don't complain about the answer.

There you go getting all snotty again...
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Flying Tadpole August 9th 04 02:10 AM

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katysails wrote:

Well...you asked the question, don't complain about the answer.

There you go getting all snotty again...
--


Hey! I haven't got Snotty for ages! It'd be intemperate cruelty
to do so anyway! Next you'll accuse me of being Hag-ridden...

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Maxprop August 9th 04 03:39 AM

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someone wrote:


I'm still trying to figure out how to fit a horse on my boat.



Lyle Lovett was able to do so.

Max



Maxprop August 9th 04 03:44 AM

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"katysails" wrote in message

Did the boat/horse thing for years...got very tiring after awhile, so when
the city people began to migrate out to where we live, I slowly started
selling off the hroses until I was down to my one favorite....boating won
out in the end, though, when I was trting to run a business, show the

horse,
and sail....you can onl;y spread yourslef so thing and then something's
gotta give...I still get catalos and magazines and stuff and have to slap
myslef when I start getting teary eyed over horses.....


Horses and boats are incompatible. Both require weekends of work,
involvement and such. We gave up the horses when it dawned upon Janie that
she hadn't ridden / lunged / anything her gelding for over a month one
summer. He'd won two Show Hack classes the previous month at shows in
Louisville, KY, and Mason, MI. There were two shows coming up in July and
there was no way she was going to have him ready. It just isn't possible.

Max



katysails August 9th 04 11:44 AM

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Next you'll accuse me of being Hag-ridden...

I ain't goin there...

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Kirie Elite 32
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Flying Tadpole August 9th 04 12:37 PM

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katysails wrote:

Next you'll accuse me of being Hag-ridden...

I ain't goin there...



....agin.

Flying Tadpole
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Seahag August 11th 04 04:13 PM

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"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

katysails wrote:

Well...you asked the question, don't complain about the answer.

There you go getting all snotty again...
--


Hey! I haven't got Snotty for ages! It'd be intemperate cruelty
to do so anyway! Next you'll accuse me of being Hag-ridden...


Whoa! Sounds like you have the bit in your teeth again!

Seahag



Flying Tadpole August 11th 04 11:24 PM

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Seahag wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

katysails wrote:

Well...you asked the question, don't complain about the answer.

There you go getting all snotty again...
--


Hey! I haven't got Snotty for ages! It'd be intemperate cruelty
to do so anyway! Next you'll accuse me of being Hag-ridden...


Whoa! Sounds like you have the bit in your teeth again!


Nah, Katy just spurred me on. You've been listening too much to
that old Devo record again.

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katysails August 12th 04 01:37 PM

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Nah, Katy just spurred me on. You've been listening too much to
that old Devo record again.

That was Haggie riding the subject, not
me...ugh...Devo....yech........................... ..........................
.................................................. .......
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Flying Tadpole August 12th 04 03:30 PM

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katysails wrote:

Nah, Katy just spurred me on. You've been listening too much to
that old Devo record again.

That was Haggie riding the subject, not
me...ugh...Devo....yech........................... ..........................
.................................................. ......


Just as well...there are some here who might ask for a quick
whip-around...

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Seahag August 12th 04 03:36 PM

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"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

katysails wrote:

Nah, Katy just spurred me on. You've been listening too much to
that old Devo record again.

That was Haggie riding the subject, not

me...ugh...Devo....yech........................... ..........................
.................................................. ......


Just as well...there are some here who might ask for a quick
whip-around...


Well you sure can follow a lead...

Seahag



Flying Tadpole August 12th 04 11:54 PM

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Seahag wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

katysails wrote:

Nah, Katy just spurred me on. You've been listening too much to
that old Devo record again.

That was Haggie riding the subject, not

me...ugh...Devo....yech........................... ..........................
.................................................. ......


Just as well...there are some here who might ask for a quick
whip-around...


Well you sure can follow a lead...

Seahag


SSsssshhhhhhhhhhhh! someone might be reading this...
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Maxprop August 13th 04 12:05 AM

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"katysails" wrote in message


Nah, Katy just spurred me on. You've been listening too much to
that old Devo record again.

That was Haggie riding the subject, not

me...ugh...Devo....yech........................... ..........................

Are we not men?
We are Devo.
Are we not men?
D-E-V-O.

Whippit.

Max



katysails August 13th 04 01:55 AM

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SSsssshhhhhhhhhhhh! someone might be reading this

Well, stop trotting all over and saddling others with the subject....
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Flying Tadpole August 13th 04 03:33 AM

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Maxprop wrote:

"katysails" wrote in message

Nah, Katy just spurred me on. You've been listening too much to
that old Devo record again.

That was Haggie riding the subject, not

me...ugh...Devo....yech........................... ..........................

Are we not men?
We are Devo.
Are we not men?
D-E-V-O.

Whippit.

Max


Or, in your case: Whippet

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