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I love it when you quote Rush... the drug addict.

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
If Raising Threat Level Helps Bush and Hurts
Democrats, What Does That Mean?

Rush Limbaugh

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Because the greater the risk the more cowards will vote for him! Ya'see the
kinds of people likely to support Bush are sorry excuses for Americans
anyway, eager to cast off the liberty our forebearers sacrificed and died
for on the promise of safety - and the scareder they are the more likely
they are to vote for Bush and his nazi-like measures.

Nobody promised my ancestor safety when he arrived in 1730 and moved to the
frontier. America offered him opportunity if he could survive, but safety?
Forget it! No government defended him or his descendents nor their property
from indian attack even during the "bloody sevens" (1777) - the people
themselves took up arms and fought off Brit inspired attacks just as
Americans had always done. They even had to fight the government itself
during the war of Yankee Aggression, when gangs calling themselves militia
sacked the town and burned their mill. And lest you think I'm bragging, let
me hasten to point out that this was the norm of that day. Were it not we
wouldn't be here!

In Jefferson's day real patriots would have given the sponsors of the
"Patriot Act" a fair and speedy trial and hanged the lot of them for treason
and sedition! Today, the Fearful Majority is preparing to re-elect them and
the greater the perceived threat the more of them will vote for safety at
any price.


"Bart Senior" wrote
Rush Limbaugh (asked)

.... "How does Bush benefit from America being at greater risk?"

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Because the greater the risk the more cowards will vote for him! Ya'see
the
kinds of people likely to support Bush are sorry excuses for Americans
anyway, eager to cast off the liberty our forebearers sacrificed and died
for on the promise of safety - and the scareder they are the more likely
they are to vote for Bush and his nazi-like measures.

Republican Response:
"You attack my country and I am going KICK YOUR ASS!!"

Liberal Democrat response:
"You attacked my country and killed Americans. Lets be friends and talk
about how it is not your fault, but your father's and big corporations.
Maybe we can raise taxes and fund some special programs for you. Here is a
condom and hypodermic syringe and drugs, it will make you feel better. Don't
worry, it's free, American tax dollars paid for them "

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FamilySailor wrote:

Republican Response:
"You attack my country and I am going KICK YOUR ASS!!"

The actual Republican Response:

"You attack my country, and I am going to KICK SOMEBODY ELSE'S ASS!
(while letting you quietly sneak away and prepare to attack us again.)"

Now, what does this have to do with sailing?

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Now, what does this have to do with sailing?

Nothing.... it is.....
OT.........

I wish I already had my new (to me) sailboat. just sold 2 of my 5, two more
to go (keeping the O'Day Super Swift). I will be getting my new 26 foot
sailboat "26 Again" this weekend.... That has something to do with
sailing.... ;-)

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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:42:24 -0500, "FamilySailor" wrote:

Now, what does this have to do with sailing?

Nothing.... it is.....
OT.........

I wish I already had my new (to me) sailboat. just sold 2 of my 5, two more
to go (keeping the O'Day Super Swift). I will be getting my new 26 foot
sailboat "26 Again" this weekend.... That has something to do with
sailing.... ;-)


Wow..congrats I guess:) What are you getting and what do you still
have left?

For a time I owned two boats and it kind of reminded me of the joke
about bigamy...

"Know what the punishment is for bigamy?.....

.....two wives":)

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I wish I already had my new (to me) sailboat. just sold 2 of my 5, two
more
to go (keeping the O'Day Super Swift). I will be getting my new 26 foot
sailboat "26 Again" this weekend.... That has something to do with
sailing.... ;-)


Wow..congrats I guess:) What are you getting and what do you still
have left?

For a time I owned two boats and it kind of reminded me of the joke
about bigamy...

"Know what the punishment is for bigamy?.....

....two wives":)

hehehehe,
Well, one of the sailboats I still have is a small homemade Cat, which I may
sacrifice to the Viking gods via fire.
The other is a Hunter 170 hull I got free. The way I got it was the guy who
had it saw a small hairline crack in the transom. He insisted that they
replace the entire hull until they finally did. He raced it. He let me have
it if I hauled it off. The hull is fine, but it needs rigging and rubber. It
is a 1999. I was just going to give it away. It is a cool looking boat. I
sold my South Coast 22' and my South Coast 26' center cockpit and I just
bought a South Coast 26' aft cockpit in almost perfect condition. 6'-2"
headroom on a trailerable boat, with a retractable 1,400 lb. bulb / fin
keel. It draws 22" keel up 4'-6" keel down. It's a sweet boat :-)

What do boats and dogs have in common?
Poor men have one, real poor men have several....

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On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:39:09 -0500, "FamilySailor" wrote:

I wish I already had my new (to me) sailboat. just sold 2 of my 5, two
more
to go (keeping the O'Day Super Swift). I will be getting my new 26 foot
sailboat "26 Again" this weekend.... That has something to do with
sailing.... ;-)


Wow..congrats I guess:) What are you getting and what do you still
have left?

For a time I owned two boats and it kind of reminded me of the joke
about bigamy...

"Know what the punishment is for bigamy?.....

....two wives":)

hehehehe,
Well, one of the sailboats I still have is a small homemade Cat, which I may
sacrifice to the Viking gods via fire.
The other is a Hunter 170 hull I got free. The way I got it was the guy who
had it saw a small hairline crack in the transom. He insisted that they
replace the entire hull until they finally did. He raced it. He let me have
it if I hauled it off. The hull is fine, but it needs rigging and rubber. It
is a 1999. I was just going to give it away. It is a cool looking boat. I
sold my South Coast 22' and my South Coast 26' center cockpit and I just
bought a South Coast 26' aft cockpit in almost perfect condition. 6'-2"
headroom on a trailerable boat, with a retractable 1,400 lb. bulb / fin
keel. It draws 22" keel up 4'-6" keel down. It's a sweet boat :-)

What do boats and dogs have in common?
Poor men have one, real poor men have several....


Sounds good:) I was tempted by a project boat earlier in the summer,
but I sobered up:)

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Sounds good:) I was tempted by a project boat earlier in the summer,
but I sobered up:)

I had a friend who got so drunk that he woke up with a Sailboat the next
morning and found out he had paid $700 for it.
The wife wanted a sailboat and she made him fix it up. Hehehehe
She took advantage of his drunken condition I would say..

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"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Sounds good:) I was tempted by a project boat earlier in the summer,
but I sobered up:)

I had a friend who got so drunk that he woke up with a Sailboat the next
morning and found out he had paid $700 for it.
The wife wanted a sailboat and she made him fix it up. Hehehehe
She took advantage of his drunken condition I would say..

What do you do with a drunken Sailor,
What do you do with a drunken Sailor,
What do you do with a drunken Sailor,
Sell him project sail...boats....

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Please stop! This was an OT thread.... the only one I can
recall that morphed into a sailing-related one!

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"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Sounds good:) I was tempted by a project boat earlier in the summer,
but I sobered up:)

I had a friend who got so drunk that he woke up with a Sailboat the next
morning and found out he had paid $700 for it.
The wife wanted a sailboat and she made him fix it up. Hehehehe
She took advantage of his drunken condition I would say..

What do you do with a drunken Sailor,
What do you do with a drunken Sailor,
What do you do with a drunken Sailor,
Sell him project sail...boats....

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On the contary. The greater the risk, the more sensible
people chose a strong leader like GWB, over a lame, limp,
extremist liberal like Kerry, who wants to take away our guns
which we use to protect ourselves, who is soft on crime,
doesn't support the death penalty, and who can't wait to sell
out America to France and foreign interests for cash.

American is strong because American's are strong. Why would
anyone consider a lame leader that doesn't put America, and
American's first.

Kerry isn't strong enough to stand up to France, how can he
stand up to terrorists?

"Vito" wrote
Because the greater the risk the more cowards will vote for him! Ya'see
the
kinds of people likely to support Bush are sorry excuses for Americans
anyway, eager to cast off the liberty our forebearers sacrificed and died
for on the promise of safety - and the scareder they are the more likely
they are to vote for Bush and his nazi-like measures.

Rush Limbaugh (asked)

.... "How does Bush benefit from America being at greater risk?"

OT Raising Threat Level
 

A strong leader who didn't bother to show up for
his physical, who is an alcoholic, and who can
barely control is daughters and certainly not control
his VP. Quite a leader.

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...

On the contary. The greater the risk, the more sensible
people chose a strong leader like GWB, over a lame, limp,
extremist liberal like Kerry, who wants to take away our guns
which we use to protect ourselves, who is soft on crime,
doesn't support the death penalty, and who can't wait to sell
out America to France and foreign interests for cash.

American is strong because American's are strong. Why would
anyone consider a lame leader that doesn't put America, and
American's first.

Kerry isn't strong enough to stand up to France, how can he
stand up to terrorists?

"Vito" wrote
Because the greater the risk the more cowards will vote for him! Ya'see
the
kinds of people likely to support Bush are sorry excuses for Americans
anyway, eager to cast off the liberty our forebearers sacrificed and
died
for on the promise of safety - and the scareder they are the more likely
they are to vote for Bush and his nazi-like measures.

Rush Limbaugh (asked)

.... "How does Bush benefit from America being at greater risk?"

OT Raising Threat Level
 

;-)

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Please stop! This was an OT thread.... the only one I can
recall that morphed into a sailing-related one!

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"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
Sounds good:) I was tempted by a project boat earlier in the
summer,
but I sobered up:)

I had a friend who got so drunk that he woke up with a Sailboat the
next
morning and found out he had paid $700 for it.
The wife wanted a sailboat and she made him fix it up. Hehehehe
She took advantage of his drunken condition I would say..

What do you do with a drunken Sailor,
What do you do with a drunken Sailor,
What do you do with a drunken Sailor,
Sell him project sail...boats....

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
A strong leader who didn't bother to show up for
his physical, who is an alcoholic, and who can
barely control is daughters and certainly not control
his .......


Sound like a weekend on a sailboat to me....

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"FamilySailor" wrote

Republican Response:
"You attack my country and I am going KICK YOUR ASS!!"

Bwahahaha! What a joke! See Bush or any of his close advisors going into
harm's way to kick ass?

Republican Response:
"You attack my country and I am going to stay in kindergarden until my
protectors take me to safety, leaving my staff to deal with the situation.
Then I'm going to borrow a $trillions and disrupt 1000s of American lives
and get 100s of them killed TRYING to KICK YOUR ASS."

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True enough, but I wouldn't want him to lead a country.

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"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
A strong leader who didn't bother to show up for
his physical, who is an alcoholic, and who can
barely control is daughters and certainly not control
his .......


Sound like a weekend on a sailboat to me....

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When I was in the military I ducked my flu shots.
When I was in college I was an alcoholic.
I don't think anyone can control their daughters.

All these things are irellievant to the man GWB is today.
And further proof extremist liberals will do anything
to smear a good man like GWB.

"FamilySailor" wrote
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
A strong leader who didn't bother to show up for
his physical, who is an alcoholic, and who can
barely control is daughters and certainly not control
his .......


Sound like a weekend on a sailboat to me....

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On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 21:03:37 +0000, Bart Senior wrote:


When I was in the military I ducked my flu shots. When I was in college I
was an alcoholic. I don't think anyone can control their daughters.

All these things are irellievant to the man GWB is today. And further
proof extremist liberals will do anything to smear a good man like GWB.

Whew, you sure do rationalize. While I believe events of 20-30 years ago
are far less relevant than recent events, I'm wondering how you can so
easily dismiss GWB's admitted youthful drunken days, yet, at the same
time, find "Kerry was a spoiled kid who chickened out in combat".
Hypocrisy?

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Hahahaa... ok, but you didn't duck your physicals. At least
that's what I would think.

If you were an alcoholic, you still are. I don't want an alcoholic
to be president.

So, you don't believe in family values? That's a Republican theme.

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...

When I was in the military I ducked my flu shots.
When I was in college I was an alcoholic.
I don't think anyone can control their daughters.

All these things are irellievant to the man GWB is today.
And further proof extremist liberals will do anything
to smear a good man like GWB.

"FamilySailor" wrote
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
A strong leader who didn't bother to show up for
his physical, who is an alcoholic, and who can
barely control is daughters and certainly not control
his .......


Sound like a weekend on a sailboat to me....

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Bart Senior wrote:
Try this. Decide if the matter is important first,
then judge the persons actions.

I think combat is serious. Drinking in college
to blow off some pressure is something else.

Drinking while driving, OTOH, is very serious.


I think Kerry has a chance to answer some questions.

Sure. And Bush has a lot of questions to answer too. If the matter is
important, then consider both sides.



The men who served with Kerry feel he is unfit for
command.

Actually, that's not at all true. A lot of men who served in Viet Nam at
approximately the same time are really angry that he became a peace
protestor, and while he was in the Senate for 20 years they said
nothing, and now that he's running against Bush, they feel compelled to
speak up... as a public service, of course... by means of an
organization that collects political donations...

Is the "Swift Vets" group somebody to take seriously? Yes, if you
already hate Kerry and need to find an excuse. Otherwise, not really.

Regards
Doug King

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Why is it that liberals take about the seriousness
of the charge requires more serious investigation
yet when the shoe is on the other foot, they
turn the subject back to something inconsequential
like Bush being AWOL where there is no proof
even after months of saying this.

Kerry is bragging about his war record. Ok. Lets
look at it and get the full story.

Why did he bring a camera with him?
Why did he put in for so many Purple Hearts?
Why do so many veterans, not in his chain
of command, dislike him?
Why did his entire chain of command think little
of him?
How did he get his first Purple Heart when the
doctor who treated him turned him down?
Why did he leave after only 4 months when
the normal tour of duty is 1 year?
Why did he get decorated for killing one
frightened kid in a loincloth?
Why did he throw away his medals and yet
keep them?
What do his medals mean if he didn't earn them,
threw them away, and put's them on display now?

I'm confused, and I want answers.

Now you tell me what questions you want Bush
to answer.

Then we'll look at the facts presented in each
case. We'll throw out the questions where there
are no supporting facts, and examine the rest.


"DSK" wrote

Bart Senior wrote:
Try this. Decide if the matter is important first,
then judge the persons actions.

I think combat is serious. Drinking in college
to blow off some pressure is something else.

Drinking while driving, OTOH, is very serious.


I think Kerry has a chance to answer some questions.

Sure. And Bush has a lot of questions to answer too. If the matter is
important, then consider both sides.

The men who served with Kerry feel he is unfit for
command.

Actually, that's not at all true. A lot of men who served in Viet Nam at
approximately the same time are really angry that he became a peace
protestor, and while he was in the Senate for 20 years they said
nothing, and now that he's running against Bush, they feel compelled to
speak up... as a public service, of course... by means of an
organization that collects political donations...

Is the "Swift Vets" group somebody to take seriously? Yes, if you
already hate Kerry and need to find an excuse. Otherwise, not really.

Regards
Doug King

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You're confused because you need medication. Bush
has yet to say why he failed to show up for his physical.
Kerry went to VN. Bush didn't go to his physical.

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
Why is it that liberals take about the seriousness
of the charge requires more serious investigation
yet when the shoe is on the other foot, they
turn the subject back to something inconsequential
like Bush being AWOL where there is no proof
even after months of saying this.

Kerry is bragging about his war record. Ok. Lets
look at it and get the full story.

Why did he bring a camera with him?
Why did he put in for so many Purple Hearts?
Why do so many veterans, not in his chain
of command, dislike him?
Why did his entire chain of command think little
of him?
How did he get his first Purple Heart when the
doctor who treated him turned him down?
Why did he leave after only 4 months when
the normal tour of duty is 1 year?
Why did he get decorated for killing one
frightened kid in a loincloth?
Why did he throw away his medals and yet
keep them?
What do his medals mean if he didn't earn them,
threw them away, and put's them on display now?

I'm confused, and I want answers.

Now you tell me what questions you want Bush
to answer.

Then we'll look at the facts presented in each
case. We'll throw out the questions where there
are no supporting facts, and examine the rest.


"DSK" wrote

Bart Senior wrote:
Try this. Decide if the matter is important first,
then judge the persons actions.

I think combat is serious. Drinking in college
to blow off some pressure is something else.

Drinking while driving, OTOH, is very serious.


I think Kerry has a chance to answer some questions.

Sure. And Bush has a lot of questions to answer too. If the matter is
important, then consider both sides.

The men who served with Kerry feel he is unfit for
command.

Actually, that's not at all true. A lot of men who served in Viet Nam at
approximately the same time are really angry that he became a peace
protestor, and while he was in the Senate for 20 years they said
nothing, and now that he's running against Bush, they feel compelled to
speak up... as a public service, of course... by means of an
organization that collects political donations...

Is the "Swift Vets" group somebody to take seriously? Yes, if you
already hate Kerry and need to find an excuse. Otherwise, not really.

Regards
Doug King

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I don't think Kerry goes with what the poles say. It is more like what he
says to the media is based on what the poles say people want to hear. He is
very consistant. You can tell by his voting record (the one exception is
voting for the war, which was under extreme circumstanced). He would send
billions to fund the UN and give them authority over us and our troops and
dismantle any defenses we have. I pray he does not get elected, for the
sake of my soon to be born grandson.

Sea Yawl,
John

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"FamilySailor" wrote
I pray he (Kerry) does not get elected, for the sake of my soon to be
born grandson.

Think about the debt Bush is piling up for your granson to pay then maybe
write in somebody better - like Al Sharpton or Jessie Jackson. Either would
be better for your Grandson than Bush.