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Bart Senior July 31st 04 09:38 PM

Racing Question #31
 
When surfing on waves, what should the
sail trim crew be thinking about? [1 pt]



Pony Express July 31st 04 11:51 PM

Racing Question #31
 
Trimming?
S.

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Wally July 31st 04 11:52 PM

Racing Question #31
 
Bart Senior wrote:
When surfing on waves, what should the
sail trim crew be thinking about? [1 pt]


Apparent wind moving forward when coming down a wave?


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Scott Vernon August 1st 04 05:01 AM

Racing Question #31
 
the words to the song, 'Wipeout'.

SV

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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When surfing on waves, what should the
sail trim crew be thinking about? [1 pt]




Peter S/Y Anicula August 1st 04 10:51 AM

Racing Question #31
 
Whether it is a good idea or not to "jumpstart" the surf by pulling in
the sails a bit just at the right time, just before the surf starts.
The added bonus is that the sails will be in the right position for
the added speed. But remember to let out the sails again when the surf
stops.
Witch boatclases uses this technique ?

Another conflicting thing is to keep still, to give the helmsman
better odds for keeping the surf longer. In some boats the crew should
probably move aft though.

Peter S/Y Anicula


"Bart Senior" skrev i en meddelelse
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When surfing on waves, what should the
sail trim crew be thinking about? [1 pt]





Maxprop August 2nd 04 04:10 AM

Racing Question #31
 

"Bart Senior" wrote in message

When surfing on waves, what should the
sail trim crew be thinking about? [1 pt]


Sheeting in as the boat speed increases to accommodate the heading apparent
wind.

Max



Bart Senior August 2nd 04 05:04 AM

Racing Question #31
 
1 point for the best answer Peter.


"Peter S/Y Anicula" wrote

Whether it is a good idea or not to "jumpstart" the surf by pulling in
the sails a bit just at the right time, just before the surf starts.
The added bonus is that the sails will be in the right position for
the added speed. But remember to let out the sails again when the surf
stops.
Witch boatclases uses this technique ?

Another conflicting thing is to keep still, to give the helmsman
better odds for keeping the surf longer. In some boats the crew should
probably move aft though.

Peter S/Y Anicula


"Bart Senior" skrev i en meddelelse
et...
When surfing on waves, what should the
sail trim crew be thinking about? [1 pt]







DSK August 2nd 04 12:17 PM

Racing Question #31
 
Peter S/Y Anicula wrote:
Whether it is a good idea or not to "jumpstart" the surf by pulling in
the sails a bit just at the right time, just before the surf starts.
The added bonus is that the sails will be in the right position for
the added speed. But remember to let out the sails again when the surf
stops.


Also you have to be aware of class rules for pumping the sails. The
Lightning class used to allow pumping the spinnaker guy, which really
helped the boat leap forward, but took a bit of muscle & timing.


Witch boatclases uses this technique ?


Ones that are going slower than the waves under normal offwind sailing.

Sailing a fast A-sail boat or multihull is a whole different can o' worms!


Another conflicting thing is to keep still, to give the helmsman
better odds for keeping the surf longer. In some boats the crew should
probably move aft though.


For catching waves, keep weight forward, then to stay on the waves shift
it aft gently. It's also important that the helms person keep the nose
from burying in the wave in front, yet not make any radical movements
that slow the boat and pull it off the wave.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Peter S/Y Anicula August 2nd 04 01:01 PM

Racing Question #31
 
Doug wrote:

It's also important that the helms person keep the nose
from burying in the wave in front, yet not make any radical

movements
that slow the boat and pull it off the wave.


Right you are. I remember from my dinghy days "capsizing forward" with
the trapeze crew swinging out in front of the boat, and me sort of
taking a step forward into the water just to windward of the bow, when
I couldn't manage to keep nose from burying itself in the wave I was
trying to overtake.
I probably swore a lot at the time, but in memory, it makes me wonder
why I don't sail dinghies anymore. Well maybe one day soon...

Peter S/Y Anicula

"DSK" skrev i en meddelelse
...
Peter S/Y Anicula wrote:
Whether it is a good idea or not to "jumpstart" the surf by

pulling in
the sails a bit just at the right time, just before the surf

starts.
The added bonus is that the sails will be in the right position

for
the added speed. But remember to let out the sails again when the

surf
stops.


Also you have to be aware of class rules for pumping the sails. The
Lightning class used to allow pumping the spinnaker guy, which

really
helped the boat leap forward, but took a bit of muscle & timing.


Witch boatclases uses this technique ?


Ones that are going slower than the waves under normal offwind

sailing.

Sailing a fast A-sail boat or multihull is a whole different can o'

worms!


Another conflicting thing is to keep still, to give the helmsman
better odds for keeping the surf longer. In some boats the crew

should
probably move aft though.


For catching waves, keep weight forward, then to stay on the waves

shift
it aft gently. It's also important that the helms person keep the

nose
from burying in the wave in front, yet not make any radical

movements
that slow the boat and pull it off the wave.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King




Bart Senior August 2nd 04 03:53 PM

Racing Question #31
 
I think this depends on the type of hull. If the
hull has a v-section forward, moving forward
won't help. Shifting weight to make the water
see the flattest part of the boat is what works.

Also, I find giving the rudder one good pull on the
tiller away from the boom, at just the right moment
points the boat up a bit and keeps it from nosing into
the preceding wave.


"DSK" wrote

For catching waves, keep weight forward, then to stay on the waves shift
it aft gently. It's also important that the helms person keep the nose
from burying in the wave in front, yet not make any radical movements
that slow the boat and pull it off the wave.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King






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