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Odd. Didn't expect that one.

OzOne wrote in message ...

http://www.sail-world.com/index.cfm?SEID=362&Nid=14176

Can't see him with TNZ...

Coutts sacked by Alinghi
 

I agree with your assessment.

With his knowledge of the defender organization, it
wouldn't be ethical for him to switch back to Team NZ.

He has a great reputation now, he's too smart to ruin that.

On the other hand, he may want to show the world that he,
as the variable that is consistently linked with winning the
cup. He's already done that, but one more win would
put him way over the top in the history books. Perhaps
he is thinking about going with another challenger?

Paul Cayard is pursuing the olympics in the Star Class
and comes off a win in the 2003 Star NA's and 5th in the
Star Worlds. Could Coutts being thinking about the
Olympics?

http://www.ussailing.org/olympics/Ol...PaulCayard.asp


OzOne wrote

On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 07:12:14 GMT, "Bart Senior"
scribbled thusly:

Odd. Didn't expect that one.

OzOne wrote

Can't see him with TNZ...

Seems pretty obvious that he was deliberately breaching the employment
term....something must be in the wind but I can't see Alinghi allowing
him to move to another camp, he knows too much!

Coutts sacked by Alinghi
 

Rock star.
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"Trains are a winter sport"

Coutts sacked by Alinghi
 

http://www.sail-world.com/index.cfm?SEID=362&Nid=14176


OzOne wrote:
Seems pretty obvious that he was deliberately breaching the employment
term....something must be in the wind but I can't see Alinghi allowing
him to move to another camp, he knows too much!

It's hard to tell what he's up to. Refusing to skipper their boat in
other regattas? It must be a big disappointment for Alinghi.

I agree that he shouldn't be going to another IACC campaign, although is
the 'time limit' up for declaring who's who on the various teams? Didn't
they just tighten up the rules for switching teams & nationalities?

DSK

Coutts sacked by Alinghi
 

Could Coutts being thinking about the
Olympics?

Thing I read said Couts and Cayard are working on putting together an
entirely new race venue and Bertelli (or whatever his name is from SUI)
didn't like it...

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This is from H2O Sailing News:

THE REST OF THE STORY
(In the he following message from Russell Coutts, we hear the other side of
the story.)

I was surprised to receive a brief phone call from Ernesto Bertarelli's
lawyers this evening which was apparently immediately followed by a media
release issued by Mr Bertarelli's staff. The facts are that some time ago I
had made it very clear to Ernesto Bertarelli that I had some very real
concerns about aspects of his management style and the direction of the
team. These concerns were based on my experience as a skipper and in a
leadership role in my last three America's Cup campaigns. They centered on
aspects of management that I had found in my own leadership experience to be
successful.

In the course of working with him, I was surprised that Ernesto Bertarelli
repeatedly made it clear he wanted to depart from our previously agreed
commitments. Most seriously, I was concerned at the impact of this
management style not just on my contract, but on the wider America's Cup
event. I found the role he increasingly insisted I occupy in the syndicate
was at considerable variance with the one we had discussed - at length -
during and since the last America's Cup campaign. This and other issues were
clear breaches of the contract I had entered into with him.

In an attempt to address these issues we entered into formal mediation and
have been in mediation for some time - a process I had understood to be
still underway. In light of this, I have been surprised by the way he has
first insisted on a rule change and then by his decision to issue my
dismissal. I believe the retrospective rule change Ernesto Bertarelli
engineered is indicative of the management style he favors - and one that,
quite simply, I cannot agree with.

What's more, an email he circulated to the Alinghi team is frankly
misleading. In the email he refers to comments I am reported to have made to
selected Italian newspapers -- comments which, as I had deliberately made
clear to him were in fact very substantial misrepresentations of what I had
said. As Ernesto knew, I had also written to the main newspaper concerned
immediately after the story appeared, and in good faith I copied this letter
to Ernesto. In the same way I believe talks I have had with Paul Cayard
about ideas for a future event have now been exaggerated. I have made no
secret of the fact that Paul and I have been talking about these ideas,
which I thought might provide an exciting new event in sailing that, if it
ever came off, would in no way be in competition to the America's Cup.

From a sailing point of view, I have to say that despite the way it has
ended, Alinghi for me has been a terrific experience. I have hugely enjoyed
working with the whole team and wish them all every success for the future.
For my own part, I am committed to sailing in several upcoming regattas in
Europe over the coming months. It is true that I would have very much liked
to have sailed in the next America's Cup. However the new rule change
combined with this dismissal appear to preclude this. I also believe the new
rule change will be damaging to the sport in general as it unfairly limits
sailors' freedom and will make it very expensive for new teams to contract
with team members.

Whatever I do next in sailing, I hope to play a role that helps to continue
to build the sport. - Russell Coutts



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So what is the rule change?


katysails wrote

snip
However the new rule change
combined with this dismissal appear to preclude this. I also believe the
new
rule change will be damaging to the sport in general as it unfairly limits
sailors' freedom and will make it very expensive for new teams to contract
with team members.

Coutts sacked by Alinghi
 

So what is the rule change?

Dunno....seems to be cloaked in secrecy....
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13.12 (a)
(i) at any time after 2 March 2003, a person who has
been contracted, employed, paid or otherwise engaged
(paid or unpaid) by a Competitor as a race or training
crewmember for a total of 180 or more days may not be
engaged (paid or unpaid) by another Competitor in any
capacity; and
(ii) at any time after 1 January 2003, a person who sails
on a Competitor's yacht as a race or training crewmember
may not be engaged (paid or unpaid) by another
Competitor in any capacity.

It seems (ii) is redundant to (i)

OzOne wrote

Bart scribbled thusly:


So what is the rule change?

Here
http://212.23.249.116/datas/textes/0...l_32_A_Cup.pdf

Rule 13.12 nad most of rule 13.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

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