Seamanship Question #4
 

It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Seamanship Question #4
 

Play music real loud.

Seamanship Question #4
 

git naked. they *will* leave.

SV

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Seamanship Question #4
 

Bart Senior wrote:
It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Learn to play the electric guitar. In fact, practice playing your
electric guitar REAL LOUD on deck... naked.

It'll drive away most of the boats... all of them, in many cases, and it
will have the bonus of attracting crazy women who want to drink tequila
and show you their body piercing(s).

Here's an example how not to:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...83124677IYXxTP

1- acoustic instead of electric guitar
2- boat tied to dock instead of anchored
3- clothes... poor taste, sure, but not as offensive as buck naked
4- woman has no tattoos, no piercings, no tequila

You should be able to do better!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Seamanship Question #4
 

git naked. they *will* leave.

depends on who you are talking to.

Seamanship Question #4
 

I have no answer, but your observation is valid.
My most recent example is in Port Jefferson, the Wednesday after the
4th. I pull into the large anchorage at 2pm and I am absolutely
alone. 11:30 pm, I awaken to a strange noise, go up on deck to find I
am no longer alone. The only other boat in the anchorage, that wasn't
there when I went to bed, has anchored so close that his dinghy is
banging on my boat.


On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:34:25 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote:

It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Seamanship Question #4
 

If you are a herbivore, the answer is do nothing.

If you are not a leaf-eater, there is a simple answer.


Marc wrote
I have no answer, but your observation is valid.
My most recent example is in Port Jefferson, the Wednesday after the
4th. I pull into the large anchorage at 2pm and I am absolutely
alone. 11:30 pm, I awaken to a strange noise, go up on deck to find I
am no longer alone. The only other boat in the anchorage, that wasn't
there when I went to bed, has anchored so close that his dinghy is
banging on my boat.


On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:34:25 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote:

It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, the other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Seamanship Question #4
 

Get out the BBQ and start cooking a side of beef?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
If you are a herbivore, the answer is do nothing.

If you are not a leaf-eater, there is a simple answer.


Marc wrote
I have no answer, but your observation is valid.
My most recent example is in Port Jefferson, the Wednesday after the
4th. I pull into the large anchorage at 2pm and I am absolutely
alone. 11:30 pm, I awaken to a strange noise, go up on deck to find I
am no longer alone. The only other boat in the anchorage, that wasn't
there when I went to bed, has anchored so close that his dinghy is
banging on my boat.


On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:34:25 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote:

It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, the other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Seamanship Question #4
 

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
| It seems every time I anchor with a group of
| boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
| to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
| other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
| I call this the "herd" instinct.
|
| What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Stick out your gut... strip buck naked and crank up the music then start
dancing around the deck screaming obscenities! It pays to wear a rasta wig
and beg for sexual favours from any boat within earshot. ;-)

CM

Seamanship Question #4
 

In your case anyone not blind... even the Glory Sail members would leave the
harbour!

....unless of course there is a whaling fleet nearby! :-P

CM



"Bobspirt" wrote in message
...
| git naked. they *will* leave.
|
| depends on who you are talking to.

Seamanship Question #4
 

You anchor in two steps. First you anchor away from where you really want to
anchor; when the boat move close to you and drop their anchor, raise you
anchor and move to your ultimate anchorage, but be sure and circle each boat
a couple of time at full throttle on the way to your final anchorage.
Calling them names as you circle may help.

Seamanship Question #4
 

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

I'd tell them to get the crap away from my boat....reason most people anchor
is for some privacy...if you wanted to raft off, you'd go out with friends
that wanted to do the same....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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all of them, in many cases, and it
will have the bonus of attracting crazy women who want to drink tequila
and show you their body piercing(s).

N0t a good idea...he already has a problem attacting those types of
women....
--
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s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

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Stick out your gut... strip buck naked and crank up the music then start
dancing around the deck screaming obscenities! It pays to wear a rasta wig
and beg for sexual favours from any boat within earshot. ;-)

CM

Oh heck...you do that every weekend no matter whether someone anchors next
to you or not....
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You should yell over, damn I'm starting to drag, should make them
nervous.Then start playing NIN at full volume.
John Cairns
"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Seamanship Question #4
 

"katysails" wrote in message

| Oh heck...you do that every weekend no matter whether someone anchors next
| to you or not....

That's why I'm never bothered by neighbours!

CM

Seamanship Question #4
 

a pignose amp and a knockoff gibson
works every time
aah oh ....no..no ........don't ask
thanks

BTW: nice boat

gf.


have a
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Bart Senior wrote:
It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Learn to play the electric guitar. In fact, practice playing your
electric guitar REAL LOUD on deck... naked.

It'll drive away most of the boats... all of them, in many cases, and it
will have the bonus of attracting crazy women who want to drink tequila
and show you their body piercing(s).

Here's an example how not to:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...83124677IYXxTP

1- acoustic instead of electric guitar
2- boat tied to dock instead of anchored
3- clothes... poor taste, sure, but not as offensive as buck naked
4- woman has no tattoos, no piercings, no tequila

You should be able to do better!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Seamanship Question #4
 

One point for you katy.

Two nights ago, what I described happened. I slept
on deck and when the wind shifted found myself very
close to another boat. I couldn't shorten scope without
pulling closer to another boat.

Last night, I waited to anchor, went away from every one
else. Of course they all move over near me! So I asked
two of them to move farther away, as they were about
to anchor and they did.

It helps to ask before they drop the hook. Which means
you have to keep and eye on them and ask them to move
before they set the hook.

I have to admit I like Moorons method also.

Bart

katysails wrote
What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

I'd tell them to get the crap away from my boat....reason most people
anchor
is for some privacy...if you wanted to raft off, you'd go out with friends
that wanted to do the same....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Good answer John.


John Cairns wrote

You should yell over, damn I'm starting to drag, should make them
nervous.Then start playing NIN at full volume.
John Cairns

"Bart Senior" wrote

It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Seamanship Question #4
 

I'm usually the last one in to an anchorage as I like to sail as late as I
can. My shallow draft helps to 'get away from the crowd'.


--
Scotty
S/V Lisa Marie
Balt. MD USA



"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
One point for you katy.

Two nights ago, what I described happened. I slept
on deck and when the wind shifted found myself very
close to another boat. I couldn't shorten scope without
pulling closer to another boat.

Last night, I waited to anchor, went away from every one
else. Of course they all move over near me! So I asked
two of them to move farther away, as they were about
to anchor and they did.

It helps to ask before they drop the hook. Which means
you have to keep and eye on them and ask them to move
before they set the hook.

I have to admit I like Moorons method also.

Bart

katysails wrote
What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

I'd tell them to get the crap away from my boat....reason most people
anchor
is for some privacy...if you wanted to raft off, you'd go out with
friends
that wanted to do the same....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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Seamanship Question #4
 

Good, that way when they pull anchor to move closer,
they run aground before hitting you!

Scott Vernon wrote

I'm usually the last one in to an anchorage as I like to sail as late as I
can. My shallow draft helps to 'get away from the crowd'.


"Bart Senior" wrote
One point for you katy.

Two nights ago, what I described happened. I slept
on deck and when the wind shifted found myself very
close to another boat. I couldn't shorten scope without
pulling closer to another boat.

Last night, I waited to anchor, went away from every one
else. Of course they all move over near me! So I asked
two of them to move farther away, as they were about
to anchor and they did.

It helps to ask before they drop the hook. Which means
you have to keep an eye on them and ask them to move
before they set the hook.

Seamanship Question #4
 

Pump your holding tank just as he goes forward to his anchor and wave
to him with a roll of toilet paper in your hand.

OT

Seamanship Question #4
 

Katy,

That is why he has to find employment in the Arctic!

OT

Seamanship Question #4
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 15:34:25 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote this crap:

It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?



Eat more beans.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Seamanship Question #4
 

Make loud groaning noises, then appear on deck, and blatantly dump a full
cedar bucket over the side. Do so as often as possible.
Scout

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...
It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Seamanship Question #4
 

Anchor at high water and then move as late as possible?

Cheers

Bart Senior wrote:

It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Seamanship Question #4
 

"Bart Senior" wrote in message t...
It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Ok what you do is losen the anchor wench cluth just barely.

Start the main, and generator. Put the main in gear @ idle with 5
degrees port or stbd rudder lashed. Go below turn up the music. Your
anchorage should be quite wide and open within an hour or so. Make
sure you have a steel hull before you attempting. Have fun!

Joe

Seamanship Question #4
 

Be sure to throw them some lettuce when you arc on
by.

Joe wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
It seems every time I anchor with a group of
boats, they other skippers want to anchor close
to me. If I anchor last, it is not uncommon to see
other boats pull anchors and move even closer.
I call this the "herd" instinct.

What should a "non-leaf-eater" do in this situation?

Ok what you do is losen the anchor wench cluth just barely.

Start the main, and generator. Put the main in gear @ idle with 5
degrees port or stbd rudder lashed. Go below turn up the music. Your
anchorage should be quite wide and open within an hour or so. Make
sure you have a steel hull before you attempting. Have fun!

Joe