Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

I passed one the other day like it was sitting still, (in lite air). Maybe
it was the sailor?


--
Scotty
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Balt. MD USA

Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

I passed one the other day like it was sitting still, (in lite air). Maybe
it was the sailor?.

Don't know what the one you saw was doing and I don't know how fast they are
but I do know that they were used for the Liberty Cup in N.Y. one year.
On another note I think they are a pretty good value at times. Mid 80s 28
footer, standing headroom, H&C pressure water, inboard diesel, not bad looking,
decent amount of sail area. I've seen them advertised as low as the mid teens.
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Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

Surly You Jest Loco!!

Fast... No!
Upgrade from a Mac26X..... barely!
Assumption of Quality...... Base-less.

Loco... having sailed and rescued one.... I can tell you it's a POS!
It has a very narrow wind limit and points badly. It's useless down wind.

The Rescue... The Hunter 28 was having trouble.... going up wind then
falling off.... people hailing me..... so I scooted out to them from my
mooring in Yellowknife Bay. I got aboard and was informed the wind was too
strong and the boat would not sail up the channel.[28kts] I sailed it up the
channel...... 9 tacks later I realized it wasn't able to do any better than
that..... I did the same a half hour earlier in 3 tacks....... same
conditions! ....with a Double Ended Clam Crusher!!!!

CM


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
|
| Don't know what the one you saw was doing and I don't know how fast
they are
| but I do know that they were used for the Liberty Cup in N.Y. one year.
| On another note I think they are a pretty good value at times. Mid 80s
28
| footer, standing headroom, H&C pressure water, inboard diesel, not bad
looking,
| decent amount of sail area. I've seen them advertised as low as the mid
teens.
| S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
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Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

Hunter has made a number of 28s. Probably 3 in the 80s. Sure you got the
right one? Why would they use the 285 for the Liberty Cup? Wouldn't America's
Cup drivers be bitchin?
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It's not a bad looking boat, for a Hunter. We were both close-hauled,
adjusting for the light shifting wind. I thought I'd be courteous and pass
him to leeward. I kept getting his dirty air. So I pinched up, and passed
to windward.

Scotty



"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
I passed one the other day like it was sitting still, (in lite air).
Maybe
it was the sailor?.

Don't know what the one you saw was doing and I don't know how fast
they are
but I do know that they were used for the Liberty Cup in N.Y. one year.
On another note I think they are a pretty good value at times. Mid 80s
28
footer, standing headroom, H&C pressure water, inboard diesel, not bad
looking,
decent amount of sail area. I've seen them advertised as low as the mid
teens.
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Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

I thought I'd be courteous and pass
him to leeward. I kept getting his dirty air. So I pinched up, and passed
to windward.

So when will we see you out on Wednesday nights?
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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Hunter has made a number of 28s. Probably 3 in the 80s. Sure you got the
| right one?

No.. not certain it was the identical model. The vessel sailed like a pig
though. This was about 8 years ago. I got a close look at it when I helped
him haul it out. For all intents and purposes it resembled a sturdy version
of a Mac26X without the engine well. Up to that point I didn't really have
an opinion on Hunters... having seen so few. Since then I've sailed their
brand new [at the time] 31 footer.... to say I was less than impressed is
an understatement. It looked reasonable... nice lines and all... but the
sailing characteristics sucked backwash. The joke around the marina was that
the Hunter 31 was the only boat the Bayfield 25 could sail faster than.

Why would they use the 285 for the Liberty Cup? Wouldn't America's
| Cup drivers be bitchin?

Maybe... then again if it's a class fleet... it's just a matter of seeing
which crew can make their Viva Vauxhalls of sail go the fastest.

CM

Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

No.. not certain it was the identical model.

Oh, so you felt you should type the following even though you didn't know
what you were talking about:

"Surly You Jest Loco!!
Fast... No!
Upgrade from a Mac26X..... barely!
Assumption of Quality...... Base-less.
Loco... having sailed and rescued one.... I can tell you it's a POS!


By the way all I said was it seemed to be a good VALUE at times and stated
why. And it is a good VALUE if it can be bought in the teens.
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Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

We have one opposite us at the marina, dimensionally pretty close to my
boat, decent exterior fittings, definitely faster than my 28 also, decent
looking boat.
John Cairns
"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
I passed one the other day like it was sitting still, (in lite air).
Maybe
it was the sailor?.

Don't know what the one you saw was doing and I don't know how fast
they are
but I do know that they were used for the Liberty Cup in N.Y. one year.
On another note I think they are a pretty good value at times. Mid 80s
28
footer, standing headroom, H&C pressure water, inboard diesel, not bad
looking,
decent amount of sail area. I've seen them advertised as low as the mid
teens.
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Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

When I retire.


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
I thought I'd be courteous and pass
him to leeward. I kept getting his dirty air. So I pinched up, and passed
to windward.

So when will we see you out on Wednesday nights?
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Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

When I retire.

You'll be too slow by then.
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I'm too slow now, guess I'll be dead by then.

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
When I retire.

You'll be too slow by then.
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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| No.. not certain it was the identical model.
|
| Oh, so you felt you should type the following even though you didn't
know
| what you were talking about:

Yup... Hunters suck. That's the facts..... It was a 285. You really
friggin believe they can turn a pig into a horse by making a few different
models???

| By the way all I said was it seemed to be a good VALUE at times and
stated
| why. And it is a good VALUE if it can be bought in the teens.

Oh and so you feel qualified to make that statement even though you have
never sailed that particular boat.... and in effect don't have a clue about
what you are talking about?

Stick to your trains...

CM

Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

Oh and so you feel qualified to make that statement even though you have
never sailed that particular boat.... and in effect don't have a clue about
what you are talking about?

I had more of a clue than you did. You didn't even know what boat was under
discussion.
I've been on the boat and heve seen them underway. If you could comprehend
things you would have understood my reasons for stating that it seemed to be a
good value. By the way when they were used for the Liberty Cup Sailing
World said they performed just fine.
Certain boats are just fine for certain people. If it gives you a superior
feeling inside to bash every Hunter then go for it.
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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Oh and so you feel qualified to make that statement even though you
have
| never sailed that particular boat.... and in effect don't have a clue
about
| what you are talking about?
|
| I had more of a clue than you did. You didn't even know what boat was
under
| discussion.

Certainly... a Hunter 285... You're starting to sound like Jim Cate
lamenting the 'M' is a far superior boat to the 'X'.


| I've been on the boat and heve seen them underway. If you could
comprehend
| things you would have understood my reasons for stating that it seemed to
be a
| good value. By the way when they were used for the Liberty Cup Sailing
| World said they performed just fine.

...but you've never sailed the boat have you?
....and they race rafts as well... without the quailifier of a name like
'Liberty Cup' which has about as much concern or care to me as the
International Viva Vauxhal Challenge.

| Certain boats are just fine for certain people. If it gives you a
superior
| feeling inside to bash every Hunter then go for it.

I bash Fin Keelers and Club Racers as well..... does that make you feel
bullied or defensive??


CM

Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

.but you've never sailed the boat have you?

Never said I did and my remarks that stated they seemed like a good value
were based on other observations.
Your looking like a fool here as usual.
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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
| Never said I did and my remarks that stated they seemed like a good
value
| were based on other observations.
| Your looking like a fool here as usual.

Yeah... you never sailed the boat... you whined like a school girl at a
rodeo... you tried in vain to afford your opinion validity.... and you
failed on all counts.

Please reaffirm who is the fool here.... I believe it's the Idiot who has
never sailed a Hunter 285 and yet seems to be taking umbrage with someone
who has.

Loco... you are the ultimate statement of a Club Racer.... you claim to
know all and prove to all you know nothing.

Shut the **** Up ... you are an Idiot!

Now be a Good Boy and Go Away........ Sheesh Already!

No wonder Bobsprit beats you into oblivion every time you two collide.....
it's because you are a Brainless ****! Try grabbing a friggin clue sometime
in your pathetic life!

CM

Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

No wonder Bobsprit beats you into oblivion every time you two
collide.....

Never happened.
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Please reaffirm who is the fool here.... I believe it's the Idiot who has
never sailed a Hunter 285 and yet seems to be taking umbrage with someone
who has.

Whom might that be?
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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Please reaffirm who is the fool here.... I believe it's the Idiot who
has
| never sailed a Hunter 285 and yet seems to be taking umbrage with someone
| who has.

Aw Cripes Loco..... It's not like I don't try my best to put you on the
**** list.....
Please do try and pay attention..... I've sailed a lot of boats... I don't
comment on boats I haven't sailed.... When I comment on a boat it's because
I've sailed them..... despite your efforts to the contrary.... my opinions
are based on my experience on said vessel. I realize this may clash with
your opinions.... but fer gawd's sake.... isn't that what this form is all
about?

Why do you seek to be a jerk when all those around you clamour for that
glory?

Talk to Scotty and become one with the usenet.... :-)

CM

Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

Please do try and pay attention..... I've sailed a lot of boats...

Nimrod,
Good for you. And as the rest of the group knows but you failed to
understand my comments were based on the boat being a late model 28 footer with
standing headroom and an inboard diesel that could be had for a price in the
teens. I stated that that represented value. That's all. Then you jump in
with your winded story of saving some Hunter driver's life and how you easily
sailed up the channel. Nobody cares. You may be right about the boat's
sailing ability. Nobody cares. Your attempted flame didn't address my points
therefore you shouldn't have tried it. You continue to look like a fool.
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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
| Please do try and pay attention..... I've sailed a lot of
boats...
|
| Nimrod,
| Good for you. And as the rest of the group knows but you failed to
| understand my comments were based on the boat being a late model 28 footer
with
| standing headroom and an inboard diesel that could be had for a price in
the
| teens. I stated that that represented value. That's all. Then you jump
in
| with your winded story of saving some Hunter driver's life and how you
easily
| sailed up the channel. Nobody cares. You may be right about the boat's
| sailing ability. Nobody cares. Your attempted flame didn't address my
points
| therefore you shouldn't have tried it. You continue to look like a fool.

Dipwad
Misconstrue all you want.... you failed to comprehend my comments were
based on actual sailing of the vessel.... or near model in mind.... I sort
of understand that you are miffed by my interpretatation of the parameters
regarding the sailing characteristics of a vessel you have only seen sailing
and only been aboard while dockside..... which seems to afford you
sufficient credence to confirm it's sailing abilities. You are sounding more
like Bobsprit every day and every post.

I'm not only addressing all your points..... but in fact I'm skewering you
with facts you haven't seemed to consider in this ill thought out attack on
my rather balanced and informative statement.

Loco.... you are once again showing up to a gunfight with a knife... a day
late and a dollar short.

It's a situation I've become comfortable with when dealing with you.......
and I'm elated to see you are standing firm as the benchmark of Base
Ignorance.

CM

Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

Misconstrue all you want.... you failed to comprehend my comments
were
based on actual sailing of the vessel.... or near model in mind....

ROFLOL................ stop your killing me! "Near model" You admit you'r not
sure what the hell boat is under discussion. Your a real piece of work.

Secondly, my gripe was never with your comments. If you think the boat is a
****ty sailor that's fine. I could care less. My gripe was with your slamming
my comments which I admitted were not based on the sailing ability of the boat.
Go to bed. After 6 posts you still don't get it.
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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message

| ROFLOL................ stop your killing me! "Near model" You admit
you'r not
| sure what the hell boat is under discussion. Your a real piece of work.

Wow Loco..... are you now telling us that each model year had vastly
different structural and sailing characteristics??? .... or was it just the
model year you had in mind that was so superior to all the other models??

|
| Secondly, my gripe was never with your comments.

Sure it was Loco..... that was evident.

If you think the boat is a
| ****ty sailor that's fine. I could care less. My gripe was with your
slamming
| my comments which I admitted were not based on the sailing ability of the
boat.

Where did I slam your comments? I never said it was a ****ty sailor.... I
said it sailed like a pig! That comparison was based on the abilities of
several other fin keeled 26-28 foot boats I have sailed on.

....and now you admit your statements were not based on the sailing abilities
of the boat!!??? Bwahahahahahahahaaaa.... that's like recommending a car
even if it's a POS to drive!

| Go to bed. After 6 posts you still don't get it.

I get it alright...... you're one of those pompous club racers that can't
stand being called on any claim they might make.

Stick Around... I'll make you Famous! :-D
[ lord knows Bobsprit has tried for years with no success]

Suck It Up Loco.... Bwahahahahahahaaaa!!

CM

Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

Where did I slam your comments? I never said it was a ****ty
sailor....

Dimwit,
Here is an exact copy of your reply to my post regarding the 285s features
that I posted that I felt made the boat a VALUE for under twenty grand:

Surly You Jest Loco!!
Fast... No!
Upgrade from a Mac26X..... barely!
Assumption of Quality...... Base-less.

I never said it was "fast" I never said it was an "upgrade" from anything
and I never mentioned "quality" So as you must admit your acusation that I
might be "jesting" was a crude attempt at slamming but you used all the wrong
facts. On top of all this you later admited you wern't even sure what boat was
under discussion. So you keep posting what you never said. LOL..........
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"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
| Dimwit,
| Here is an exact copy of your reply to my post regarding the 285s
features
| that I posted that I felt made the boat a VALUE for under twenty grand:
|
| Surly You Jest Loco!!
| Fast... No!
| Upgrade from a Mac26X..... barely!
| Assumption of Quality...... Base-less.

Oh WOW!!!! Yeah that was a real SLAM!!!
Bwahahahahahahahahahaaa!!!!
Almost as bad as being accused of being Anti Semitic! Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!


|
| I never said it was "fast" I never said it was an "upgrade" from
anything
| and I never mentioned "quality" So as you must admit your acusation that
I
| might be "jesting" was a crude attempt at slamming but you used all the
wrong
| facts.

Nope I wouldn't admit that at all!
But in case you want to comprehend how a "slam" should be delivered it would
go something like this:

Loco Flatulated this Gem -
Don't know what the one you saw was doing and I don't know how fast they
are
but I do know that they were used for the Liberty Cup in N.Y. one year.

Oh my Loco... does that mean you "Think" the boat must be fast?
Bwahahahahaha Idiot!

On another note I think they are a pretty good value at times.

-You 'Think" they're a pretty good value but it seems you are clueless in
basing those facts once again. Way to go Einstein!

Mid 80s 28footer, standing headroom, H&C pressure water, inboard diesel,
not bad looking,
decent amount of sail area. I've seen them advertised as low as the mid
teens.

-Have you now Loco?? Bwahahahahahaaa what model year mid 80's are you
blathering about now you mentally challenged ignoramus?

See.... that's how a 'slam" would be delivered...... what you misconstrued
as a slam due to your paranoia and low self esteem.... was merely a
'comment'!! ;-)


On top of all this you later admited you wern't even sure what boat was
| under discussion. So you keep posting what you never said. LOL..........

I did say it was about 9 years ago.... the boat was new. It was a new pig!
Just like your old pig of a boat. That's a 'slam' by the way..... ;-)

Bwahahahahahahahaaa

CM

Is the Hunter 285 a slug?
 

ROFLMAO! The only thing you slammed was yourself.
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"SAIL LOCO" Tried to hide his angst in message

| ROFLMAO! The only thing you slammed was yourself.

Oh... Yeah.... that really Hurt my Feelings!!

Considering the thin nature of your skin.... you must use an industrial
grade of sunblock!

Bwahahahahahahaaaa!!

CM