Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

Okay sailors,

We are thinking about purchasing a 78 Catalina 27' Does anyone have an
opinion about this boat. I understand they are more of a small cruising
boat, but pretty fast too. I have not had the chance to survey the boat in
person yet. It is said to be ready to sail and has an 11 hp inboard diesel.
I will call them tonight. It has an autopilot, all sails, roller furler,
dodger & bimini top, alcohol stove etc. and they are asking $4000. Any
Catalina specific questions I need to ask?

Happy Sails,
FamilySailor (John)

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

If the boat looks like it was kept up and the motor starts right away and runs
smoothly buy it and get out sailing. Four grand is probably not your life's
savings. Hard to go wrong. Depending on where you are located the tall rig
version might be prefered. Plus: There's a zillion of them out there, Catalina
is still in business and there might be one design racing in your area. Minus:
Dated looking and there's a zillion of them out there. Not really fast for a
27. My old Merit 22 had the same PHRF rating.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

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I like these boats. We had one in our fleet until recently. I thought
is was a very nice, sea worthy boat. It sounds like a good price
from what you describe, but I don't know what they go for in your
area. We had a rigging failure, which brought down the mast. Not
the boat's fault at all. The insurance paid I believe $7500 less
deductible. I'd certainly rather have the diesel. We had the A4. I
don't recall the year of the boat, but it was something like that.

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"FamilySailor" wrote in message
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Okay sailors,

We are thinking about purchasing a 78 Catalina 27' Does anyone have an
opinion about this boat. I understand they are more of a small cruising
boat, but pretty fast too. I have not had the chance to survey the boat in
person yet. It is said to be ready to sail and has an 11 hp inboard
diesel.
I will call them tonight. It has an autopilot, all sails, roller furler,
dodger & bimini top, alcohol stove etc. and they are asking $4000. Any
Catalina specific questions I need to ask?

Happy Sails,
FamilySailor (John)

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

I have several Project sailboats at home and I have decided to get one I can
just untie and sail. I prefer sailing over rebuilding. If it is a project
boat, then I will keep looking. My wife really likes the Hunter 345, but not
the new sailboats. She likes the mid 80s model 345. I believe the Catalina
is a better built boat than the Hunter, but I have nothing to base that on;
just a gut feeling.....

Sea Yawl,
John

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

FamilySailor wrote:
Okay sailors,

We are thinking about purchasing a 78 Catalina 27' Does anyone have an
opinion about this boat.

It's a nice enough practical boat.

... I understand they are more of a small cruising
boat, but pretty fast too.

Umm, no. A Catalina 27 may be "fast" relative to a slower boat (of which
there are at least a few) but it is certainly not intended for any great
performance under sail. They do go to windward, they are not broach
coaches, but if you're used to sailing even a medium performance racing
dinghy like say a Lightning, the Cat27 will be a snooze.

.... I have not had the chance to survey the boat in
person yet. It is said to be ready to sail and has an 11 hp inboard diesel.
I will call them tonight. It has an autopilot, all sails, roller furler,
dodger & bimini top, alcohol stove etc. and they are asking $4000. Any
Catalina specific questions I need to ask?

Check the chainplates & the bulkheads under where the chainplates go
through the deck. Check the keel bolts & keel root too.

Sounds like a good price if the boat is really in good shape.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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Thanks, I will check those things out. As far as performance; I enjoy lazy
sailing more. Did you say it points pretty good? That is definitely a
requirement as far as I am concerned. I almost bought a Morgan 41' out
islander, but decided not to make the investment because they don't point
worth $#!t and the price was only $10,000. It had a 56 horse inboard to make
her point better though.

Personally, if I can sail to and from the dock without cranking up the old
iron wind...... well... those are perfect days...... makes you feel good,
right down to the marrow!

Sea Yawl,
John

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FamilySailor wrote:
Thanks, I will check those things out. As far as performance; I enjoy lazy
sailing more. Did you say it points pretty good? That is definitely a
requirement as far as I am concerned.

Well, it's a fin keel masthead sloop... it's not an IACC boat, but if
the rig & sails are decent it should get somewhere inside 90...
templating the keel is a bigger help to pointing than most people will
credit, but a boat that's kept in the water will lose most of the
benefit as soon any growth starts on it.


... I almost bought a Morgan 41' out
islander, but decided not to make the investment because they don't point
worth $#!t and the price was only $10,000. It had a 56 horse inboard to make
her point better though.

Maybe you should have offered $5K? These are fairly comfy boats... not
as roomy as modern ones, and they don't sail all that well, but if you
want "a lot of boat for the money" they do the job. A friend of mine
just moved up from a Morgan OI 33 to an 41' OI.


Personally, if I can sail to and from the dock without cranking up the old
iron wind...... well... those are perfect days...... makes you feel good,
right down to the marrow!

You need a Johnson 18 then... or a Laser!

DSK

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

Maybe you should have offered $5K? These are fairly comfy boats... not
as roomy as modern ones, and they don't sail all that well, but if you
want "a lot of boat for the money" they do the job. A friend of mine
just moved up from a Morgan OI 33 to an 41' OI.

I would have jumped on it for $5000. My banker had called me about the boat.
The owner had cancer and he still owed the bank 10 grand. The boat just sold
for the pay-off. It sure was a big comfy boat alright!!

You need a Johnson 18 then... or a Laser!

I sail my SC 26' center cockpit and SC 22' in and out almost every time
without the motor and we are on the last row of slips. I think it good
practice, because you never know what will happen and you don't have your
motor when you need it. The wife and I have it down pat. I used to motor in
and out, but I watched these old guys sailing in and out without the aid of
a motor and thought it was so cool. We even beat our way out in our SC 22'
once, it was a chore though, but a feather in our cap (as far as we are
concerned anyway).

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

I think the Cat 27 is one of the crappier Catalina designs.
The interior is too small and the boat does not perform
all that well, but it can handle San Francisco conditions.

Inboard diesels are good to have and work better in
rough condtions. But in a boat that size an outboard
might be more practical.

The price of your's sounds good.

FamilySailor wrote

We are thinking about purchasing a 78 Catalina 27' Does anyone have an
opinion about this boat. I understand they are more of a small cruising
boat, but pretty fast too. I have not had the chance to survey the boat in
person yet. It is said to be ready to sail and has an 11 hp inboard
diesel.
I will call them tonight. It has an autopilot, all sails, roller furler,
dodger & bimini top, alcohol stove etc. and they are asking $4000. Any
Catalina specific questions I need to ask?

Happy Sails,
FamilySailor (John)

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

I'd go for the Morgan if you can pick one up at that price,
you could probably turn it over for a profit.

FamilySailor wrote

requirement as far as I am concerned. I almost bought a Morgan 41' out
islander, but decided not to make the investment because they don't point
worth $#!t and the price was only $10,000. It had a 56 horse inboard to
make
her point better though.

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

Hey Dave,

Are you talking about the balsa core being soft or rotten, or the actual
layers of fiberglass seperating?

Inquiring mind want to know!

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

DSK wrote:

FamilySailor wrote:

Thanks, I will check those things out. As far as performance; I enjoy
lazy
sailing more. Did you say it points pretty good? That is definitely a
requirement as far as I am concerned.


Well, it's a fin keel masthead sloop... it's not an IACC boat, but if
the rig & sails are decent it should get somewhere inside 90...

Through what angle do IACC yachts typically tack through?

Cheers

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

Nav wrote:
Through what angle do IACC yachts typically tack through?

I don't really know. What angle *do* they tack through?

From watching them I suspect they go more for footing than pointing,
and they still appear to tack through around 70 to 80 degrees. The 12
Meters were better at pinching than footing and could tack through 60
degrees when conditions warrant.

Which do *you* think points higher, masthead rigs or fractional?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 08:13:20 -0500, "FamilySailor" wrote
this crap:

Okay sailors,

We are thinking about purchasing a 78 Catalina 27' Does anyone have an
opinion about this boat. I understand they are more of a small cruising
boat, but pretty fast too. I have not had the chance to survey the boat in
person yet. It is said to be ready to sail and has an 11 hp inboard diesel.
I will call them tonight. It has an autopilot, all sails, roller furler,
dodger & bimini top, alcohol stove etc. and they are asking $4000. Any
Catalina specific questions I need to ask?

That seems a little high. Does it have a trailer, or a cradle? Any
electronics?




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

They are decent boats to start out on, but kind of cramped for a family to
weekend on...make sure you get a survey....

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Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:53:20 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:



Epoxy won't set if there is any moisture present!

You are incorrect.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

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Horvath wrote:

On Wed, 07 Jul 2004 08:53:20 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:


Epoxy won't set if there is any moisture present!


You are incorrect.



Uh oh!

Cheers

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

I found the one we had did well on the bay. It wasn't the fastest
out there, but it did ok. An outboard would have been totally
unsuitable given the conditions. While the interior was small,
the worst part was the inaccessability of the A4. It was a bitch
doing anything, even checking the oil.

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
et...
I think the Cat 27 is one of the crappier Catalina designs.
The interior is too small and the boat does not perform
all that well, but it can handle San Francisco conditions.

Inboard diesels are good to have and work better in
rough condtions. But in a boat that size an outboard
might be more practical.

The price of your's sounds good.

FamilySailor wrote

We are thinking about purchasing a 78 Catalina 27' Does anyone have an
opinion about this boat. I understand they are more of a small cruising
boat, but pretty fast too. I have not had the chance to survey the boat
in
person yet. It is said to be ready to sail and has an 11 hp inboard
diesel.
I will call them tonight. It has an autopilot, all sails, roller furler,
dodger & bimini top, alcohol stove etc. and they are asking $4000. Any
Catalina specific questions I need to ask?

Happy Sails,
FamilySailor (John)

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

The boat sold already after only TWO DAYS!!!!! Bummer

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

I thought is was a good deal... That is why it sold in two days and I missed
it!

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

He's been looking up his boyfriend's ass.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 18:44:36 -0400, Horvath said:

they are asking $4000. Any
Catalina specific questions I need to ask?

That seems a little high. Does it have a trailer, or a cradle? Any
electronics?

Dunno where you've been looking, but in the Northeast asking price for a
'78
in decent condition would be about double that.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick?

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

I thought is was a good deal... That is why it sold in two days and I missed
it!

Boats are like women and busses. If you miss one there will be another along
in twenty minutes.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

I thought is was a good deal... That is why it sold in two days and I missed
it!

ASA strikes again.

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

keep looking. there are better deals out there.


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Balt. MD USA

"FamilySailor" wrote in message
...
The boat sold already after only TWO DAYS!!!!! Bummer

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

Booby**** had one and sold it.

That's 3 points in the Catalina 27's favor.

;-)




FamilySailor wrote:
Okay sailors,

We are thinking about purchasing a 78 Catalina 27' Does anyone have an
opinion about this boat. I understand they are more of a small cruising
boat, but pretty fast too. I have not had the chance to survey the boat in
person yet. It is said to be ready to sail and has an 11 hp inboard diesel.
I will call them tonight. It has an autopilot, all sails, roller furler,
dodger & bimini top, alcohol stove etc. and they are asking $4000. Any
Catalina specific questions I need to ask?

Happy Sails,
FamilySailor (John)

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

He's the one who keeps proclaiming it. I'm just the messenger.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 10:22:38 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

He's been looking up his boyfriend's ass.

Time to give your obsession a rest, Jonathan.

Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick?

Opinions about the Catalina 27'
 

On 7 Jul 2004 10:27:05 -0500, Dave wrote this crap:

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 18:44:36 -0400, Horvath said:

they are asking $4000. Any
Catalina specific questions I need to ask?

That seems a little high. Does it have a trailer, or a cradle? Any
electronics?

Dunno where you've been looking, but in the Northeast asking price for a '78
in decent condition would be about double that.


Where I live, seventies boats are stacked up, with signs that say,
"FREE, TAKE ONE."

And I'll take you to where they are. They're just down the street
from me.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

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"Horvath" wrote


Where I live, seventies boats are stacked up, with signs that say,
"FREE, TAKE ONE."

And I'll take you to where they are. They're just down the street
from me.

Sounds like a nice neighborhood.

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Yeah, he lives in a "mansion." (aka a bar)

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Horvath" wrote


Where I live, seventies boats are stacked up, with signs that say,
"FREE, TAKE ONE."

And I'll take you to where they are. They're just down the street
from me.

Sounds like a nice neighborhood.

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wrote
Sounds like a nice neighborhood.


We even have a special dumpster around back

of your house?

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wrote
We even have a special dumpster around back

of your house?

Yes, just for Siedelmanns. We wouldn't want them mixed in with anything
that
might be at least somewhat recycleable.


Oh, ok, Bob.