2 point question
 

sorry, nav, a figure of speech. I forgot you don't have the capacity to
integrate figures of speech into coherent thought patterns.

A cat is not a vector.

Cheers

JAXAshby wrote:

our physics professor used to smack our knuckles for saying speed and not
velocity. What a grump.
Scout


speed is a scalar, velocity is a vector. rather different breeds of cats.

2 point question
 

Do Tell....

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| Of course the vector could be 0 degrees T. ;-)
|
| no such vector exists. *that* is a direction, moron.
|
|
|
| CM
|
|

2 point question
 

Then Pat is living a sheltered life..... for it has been theorized in many
ports the vessel Overproof has frequented... that the Captain must be a
great lover!

CM

"Nav" wrote in message
...
| Pat will tell you that there is no theoretical great lover...
|
| ;)
|
| Cheeers
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
|
| If you don't have the theory down pat.... how in the world will you pass
the
| practical?
|
| CM
|
| "Nav" wrote in message
| ...
| | A theory exercise?
| |
| | :P
| |
| | Cheers
| |
| | Capt. Mooron wrote:
| |
| | Ah... Yes.... calculating a vector between "Legs".... one of my
| favourite
| | navigational pastimes. ;-)
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Scout" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | sorry, I was flirting with a math teacher at the time.
| | | Scout
| | |
| | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | So what did your Prof refer to the vector between your departure
| | | coordinates
| | | and your arrival coordinates?
| | |
| | | CM
| | |
| | | "Scout" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | btw - I've used my saved sailing gps tracks in the classroom -
the
| | | physics
| | | | teacher projected them onto the board and had the students
work
| out
| | | vectors
| | | | and so forth.
| | | | Scout
| | | |
| | | | "Bart Senior" wrote in message
| | | | . ..
| | | | You sail directly East for 14 hours,
| | | | then South for 14 hours,
| | | | and then West for 14 hours,
| | | | and then North again for 14 hours.
| | | |
| | | | Now if you draw a vector between your starting
| | | | position and your final position. What would you
| | | | call that vector?
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|

2 point question
 

yes I know, that information was lacking was the very first thing I said.
Scout

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yes I know, that is the point (no pun intended)
Scout

no it wasn't the point. the point was the question lacked sufficient data
to
form an answer.

btw, a point is not a vector either.

a dot is not a vector.

2 point question
 

Which ever Jaxxies.... it's obvious that teacher had better credentials than
the person who instructed you in sailing.

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| btw - I've used my saved sailing gps tracks in the classroom - the
physics
| teacher projected them onto the board and had the students work out
vectors
| and so forth.
| Scout
|
| high school teacher, right? Or maybe a community college teacher?

2 point question
 

high school

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
btw - I've used my saved sailing gps tracks in the classroom - the
physics
teacher projected them onto the board and had the students work out
vectors
and so forth.
Scout

high school teacher, right? Or maybe a community college teacher?

2 point question
 

okay, moron. what is the magnitude of 0 degree T?


Do Tell....

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| Of course the vector could be 0 degrees T. ;-)
|
| no such vector exists. *that* is a direction, moron.
|
|
|
| CM
|
|

2 point question
 

scout, it is not a cake or a rocket ship or a waltz either.

yes I know, that information was lacking was the very first thing I said.
Scout

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yes I know, that is the point (no pun intended)
Scout

no it wasn't the point. the point was the question lacked sufficient data
to
form an answer.

btw, a point is not a vector either.

a dot is not a vector.

2 point question
 

temp is a scalar
Scout

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
okay, moron. what is the magnitude of 0 degree T?


Do Tell....

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| Of course the vector could be 0 degrees T. ;-)
|
| no such vector exists. *that* is a direction, moron.
|
|
|
| CM
|
|

2 point question
 

wha?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
scout, it is not a cake or a rocket ship or a waltz either.

yes I know, that information was lacking was the very first thing I said.
Scout

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yes I know, that is the point (no pun intended)
Scout

no it wasn't the point. the point was the question lacked sufficient
data
to
form an answer.

btw, a point is not a vector either.

a dot is not a vector.

2 point question
 

"theorized", eh? no woman on the planet has any experience at all with moron,
so moron claims it is only "theory"?

So it seems.



Then Pat is living a sheltered life..... for it has been theorized in many
ports the vessel Overproof has frequented... that the Captain must be a
great lover!

CM

"Nav" wrote in message
...
| Pat will tell you that there is no theoretical great lover...
|
| ;)
|
| Cheeers
|
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
|
| If you don't have the theory down pat.... how in the world will you pass
the
| practical?
|
| CM
|
| "Nav" wrote in message
| ...
| | A theory exercise?
| |
| | :P
| |
| | Cheers
| |
| | Capt. Mooron wrote:
| |
| | Ah... Yes.... calculating a vector between "Legs".... one of my
| favourite
| | navigational pastimes. ;-)
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Scout" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | sorry, I was flirting with a math teacher at the time.
| | | Scout
| | |
| | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | So what did your Prof refer to the vector between your departure
| | | coordinates
| | | and your arrival coordinates?
| | |
| | | CM
| | |
| | | "Scout" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | btw - I've used my saved sailing gps tracks in the classroom -
the
| | | physics
| | | | teacher projected them onto the board and had the students
work
| out
| | | vectors
| | | | and so forth.
| | | | Scout
| | | |
| | | | "Bart Senior" wrote in message
| | | | . ..
| | | | You sail directly East for 14 hours,
| | | | then South for 14 hours,
| | | | and then West for 14 hours,
| | | | and then North again for 14 hours.
| | | |
| | | | Now if you draw a vector between your starting
| | | | position and your final position. What would you
| | | | call that vector?
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|

2 point question
 

Heh Einstein....

Vector - a quantity, force or velocity made up of components of both
direction and magnitude

Just in case you were confused..... again! ;-)

CM



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| Of course the vector could be 0 degrees T. ;-)
|
| no such vector exists. *that* is a direction, moron.
|
|
|
| CM
|
|

2 point question
 

yeah, it is an appropriate classroom exercise for 10th or 11th graders.

high school

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
btw - I've used my saved sailing gps tracks in the classroom - the
physics
teacher projected them onto the board and had the students work out
vectors
and so forth.
Scout

high school teacher, right? Or maybe a community college teacher?

2 point question
 

ok I give up then. What would the resultant look like if starting and ending
points are both point A?
or, do you suppose Bart is tricking us with some other movement, such as
that caused by the rotation of the planet, etc.?
Scout

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
scout, it is not a cake or a rocket ship or a waltz either.

yes I know, that information was lacking was the very first thing I said.
Scout

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yes I know, that is the point (no pun intended)
Scout

no it wasn't the point. the point was the question lacked sufficient
data
to
form an answer.

btw, a point is not a vector either.

a dot is not a vector.

2 point question
 

He's phasing in & out of reality.... it's the idiot savant thing. He's
hoping that you might construe his babbling as a form of higher
intelligence.

Jaxxies couldn't "talk down" to even a cockroach...... on any subject.

CM


"Scout" wrote in message
...
| wha?
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| scout, it is not a cake or a rocket ship or a waltz either.
|
| yes I know, that information was lacking was the very first thing I
said.
| Scout
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| yes I know, that is the point (no pun intended)
| Scout
|
| no it wasn't the point. the point was the question lacked sufficient
| data
| to
| form an answer.
|
| btw, a point is not a vector either.
|
| a dot is not a vector.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

2 point question
 

exactly.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yeah, it is an appropriate classroom exercise for 10th or 11th graders.

high school

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
btw - I've used my saved sailing gps tracks in the classroom - the
physics
teacher projected them onto the board and had the students work out
vectors
and so forth.
Scout

high school teacher, right? Or maybe a community college teacher?

2 point question
 

moron, "quantity" is a scalar and "force" is a scalar, while "velocity" is a
vector.

you have had to much to drink today, moron, and the sun has not yet set. go
sleep it off.

Heh Einstein....

Vector - a quantity, force or velocity made up of components of both
direction and magnitude

Just in case you were confused..... again! ;-)

CM



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| Of course the vector could be 0 degrees T. ;-)
|
| no such vector exists. *that* is a direction, moron.
|
|
|
| CM
|
|

2 point question
 

Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa....... you mean you really don't know!!!????

I'll give you a hint my little mensa candidate... it's as constant as it is
obvious.

Now grab your pencil and paper and run along.

Sheesh!

CM



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| okay, moron. what is the magnitude of 0 degree T?
|
|
| Do Tell....
|
| CM
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | Of course the vector could be 0 degrees T. ;-)
| |
| | no such vector exists. *that* is a direction, moron.
| |
| |
| |
| | CM
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

2 point question
 

Sorry I should have known that your idea of a vector would include metaphor.

Cheers

JAXAshby wrote:

sorry, nav, a figure of speech. I forgot you don't have the capacity to
integrate figures of speech into coherent thought patterns.


A cat is not a vector.

Cheers

JAXAshby wrote:


our physics professor used to smack our knuckles for saying speed and not
velocity. What a grump.
Scout


speed is a scalar, velocity is a vector. rather different breeds of cats.

2 point question
 

so, moron, wanna tell us what the magnitude of 0 degrees T is?

you have had too much to drink today, moron, and the sun has not yet gone over
the horizon. go sleep it off.

Heh Einstein....

Vector - a quantity, force or velocity made up of components of both
direction and magnitude

Just in case you were confused..... again! ;-)

CM



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| Of course the vector could be 0 degrees T. ;-)
|
| no such vector exists. *that* is a direction, moron.
|
|
|
| CM
|
|

2 point question
 

Sounds true to me!

:P

Cheers

Capt. Mooron wrote:

Then Pat is living a sheltered life..... for it has been theorized in many
ports the vessel Overproof has frequented... that the Captain must be a
great theoretical lover!

2 point question
 

Oh boy jaxxies..... did you come up with that witty counter strike all by
yourself??

Bwahahahahahahahahaa...... have you figured out the magnitude yet
jaxxies???? ;-)

CM


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| "theorized", eh? no woman on the planet has any experience at all with
moron,
| so moron claims it is only "theory"?
|
| So it seems.
|
|
|
| Then Pat is living a sheltered life..... for it has been theorized in
many
| ports the vessel Overproof has frequented... that the Captain must be a
| great lover!
|
| CM
|
| "Nav" wrote in message
| ...
| | Pat will tell you that there is no theoretical great lover...
| |
| | ;)
| |
| | Cheeers
| |
| | Capt. Mooron wrote:
| |
| | If you don't have the theory down pat.... how in the world will you
pass
| the
| | practical?
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "Nav" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | A theory exercise?
| | |
| | | :P
| | |
| | | Cheers
| | |
| | | Capt. Mooron wrote:
| | |
| | | Ah... Yes.... calculating a vector between "Legs".... one of my
| | favourite
| | | navigational pastimes. ;-)
| | |
| | | CM
| | |
| | | "Scout" wrote in message
| | | ...
| | | | sorry, I was flirting with a math teacher at the time.
| | | | Scout
| | | |
| | | | "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
| | | | ...
| | | | So what did your Prof refer to the vector between your
departure
| | | | coordinates
| | | | and your arrival coordinates?
| | | |
| | | | CM
| | | |
| | | | "Scout" wrote in message
| | | |
...
| | | | | btw - I've used my saved sailing gps tracks in the
classroom -
| the
| | | | physics
| | | | | teacher projected them onto the board and had the students
| work
| | out
| | | | vectors
| | | | | and so forth.
| | | | | Scout
| | | | |
| | | | | "Bart Senior" wrote in message
| | | | | . ..
| | | | | You sail directly East for 14 hours,
| | | | | then South for 14 hours,
| | | | | and then West for 14 hours,
| | | | | and then North again for 14 hours.
| | | | |
| | | | | Now if you draw a vector between your starting
| | | | | position and your final position. What would you
| | | | | call that vector?
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | | |
| | |
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

2 point question
 

it is a "point", which in not a "vector".

a point lacks both magnitude and direction both of which are required to have a
vector.

ok I give up then. What would the resultant look like if starting and ending
points are both point A?
or, do you suppose Bart is tricking us with some other movement, such as
that caused by the rotation of the planet, etc.?
Scout

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
scout, it is not a cake or a rocket ship or a waltz either.

yes I know, that information was lacking was the very first thing I said.
Scout

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yes I know, that is the point (no pun intended)
Scout

no it wasn't the point. the point was the question lacked sufficient
data
to
form an answer.

btw, a point is not a vector either.

a dot is not a vector.

2 point question
 

moron, you are blotto.

Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa....... you mean you really don't know!!!????

I'll give you a hint my little mensa candidate... it's as constant as it is
obvious.

Now grab your pencil and paper and run along.

Sheesh!

CM



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| okay, moron. what is the magnitude of 0 degree T?
|
|
| Do Tell....
|
| CM
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | Of course the vector could be 0 degrees T. ;-)
| |
| | no such vector exists. *that* is a direction, moron.
| |
| |
| |
| | CM
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

2 point question
 

nav, are drinking in sympathy with moron?

consider that that seems likely.

consider also, nav, that moron is crashing towards serious medical problems
because of his alcohol use.

Sorry I should have known that your idea of a vector would include metaphor.

Cheers

JAXAshby wrote:

sorry, nav, a figure of speech. I forgot you don't have the capacity to
integrate figures of speech into coherent thought patterns.


A cat is not a vector.

Cheers

JAXAshby wrote:


our physics professor used to smack our knuckles for saying speed and not
velocity. What a grump.
Scout


speed is a scalar, velocity is a vector. rather different breeds of cats.

2 point question
 

"Scout" wrote in message

| ok I give up then. What would the resultant look like if starting and
ending
| points are both point A?

If speed and bearings are constant..... both points would be identical and
no vector could be established.

| or, do you suppose Bart is tricking us with some other movement, such as
| that caused by the rotation of the planet, etc.?
| Scout

Nope.....
The vector would be a the differential error in DR navigating a boxed
compass course.

Of course there is "elevation" due to tidal forces..... Ha Ha Ha

CM

2 point question
 

jaxxies you are denser than a fence post!

Now go think it out... no matter how much it hurts you.

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| moron, you are blotto.
|
| Bwahahahahahahahaaaaa....... you mean you really don't know!!!????
|
| I'll give you a hint my little mensa candidate... it's as constant as it
is
| obvious.
|
| Now grab your pencil and paper and run along.
|
| Sheesh!
|
| CM
|
|
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | okay, moron. what is the magnitude of 0 degree T?
| |
| |
| | Do Tell....
| |
| | CM
| |
| | "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| | ...
| | | Of course the vector could be 0 degrees T. ;-)
| | |
| | | no such vector exists. *that* is a direction, moron.
| | |
| | |
| | |
| | | CM
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
| |
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|
|
|
|

2 point question
 

Oh Boy...... Tsk Tsk tsk!

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| moron, "quantity" is a scalar and "force" is a scalar, while "velocity" is
a
| vector.
|
| you have had to much to drink today, moron, and the sun has not yet set.
go
| sleep it off.
|
| Heh Einstein....
|
| Vector - a quantity, force or velocity made up of components of both
| direction and magnitude
|
| Just in case you were confused..... again! ;-)
|
| CM
|
|
|
| "JAXAshby" wrote in message
| ...
| | Of course the vector could be 0 degrees T. ;-)
| |
| | no such vector exists. *that* is a direction, moron.
| |
| |
| |
| | CM
| |
| |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|

2 point question
 

That jaxxies, would be directly related to the coordinates of the
vector.....

Since you require both direction and magnitude for a vector.... stating 0
degrees T would in this case of course include the supplied constant of
magnitude.

This is as hard as locating the Gulf Stream for you isn't it! Next you'll be
asking me to calc chords on a spiral curve.

Do you need slope on that calc due to tide?? Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa

X Y Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| so, moron, wanna tell us what the magnitude of 0 degrees T is?

2 point question
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| yeah, it is an appropriate classroom exercise for 10th or 11th graders.

How the hell would you know???? Ha Ha Ha

CM

2 point question
 

Hiccup... Shay Wha-a-a-t!!

Aw Shaddup ya lily livered lil' cabin ****** or I'll ...
THUNK!...Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z!!

CM

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
| nav, are drinking in sympathy with moron?
|
| consider that that seems likely.
|
| consider also, nav, that moron is crashing towards serious medical
problems
| because of his alcohol use.

2 point question
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote:
......wouldld include leeway, tide, deviation and variation, windage,
helmsmans error, etc.

That's pretty close, but you are missing one thing:
Unless you crossed the equator exactly after the first 7 hours which
is statistically very unlikely there vould also be a geometrical
component due to the fact that you are sailing on a globe
and not on a pancake.

Velocity over the ground (?) ("beholden fart" in my native language)
in a unit of nautical miles
per 56 hours, would be the closest I can think of, but it doeen't make
much sense.


Peter S/Y Anicula

2 point question
 

Jax,

You're doing it again. A LINE from the STARTING POINT to the finish
LOCATION isn't a point. The POINT is on your head. Read the question
again (with an open mind) analysis. A course was set. It was Sailed and
the finish wasn't where the start was, due to Drift. That difference can
be connected with a line. CONNECTED WITH A LINE not a DOT

H to O, my friend H to O

Ole Thom

2 point question
 

Vectors alway have magnitude

Magnitude measured in what units, Jax?

Ole Thom

2 point question
 

answer: a resultant
Scout

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
. ..
You sail directly East for 14 hours,
then South for 14 hours,
and then West for 14 hours,
and then North again for 14 hours.

Now if you draw a vector between your starting
position and your final position. What would you
call that vector?

2 point question
 

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 23:00:52 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote:

The solution is a vector.

My math is kinda rusty, do you mean an orthogonal (sp?, it's
orthogonaal in Dutch).

BTW, your question was (kinda) about DRAWING a vector, and I still
call that a dot :-)


Cheers!


Remco


Remco Moedt wrote

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 04:53:15 GMT, "Bart Senior"
wrote:

You sail directly East for 14 hours,
then South for 14 hours,
and then West for 14 hours,
and then North again for 14 hours.

Now if you draw a vector between your starting
position and your final position. What would you
call that vector?

A dot. :-)

Remco

2 point question
 

old dude, it seems you do not understand the term "vector" even yet. the
question you ask is not applicable.

Vectors alway have magnitude

Magnitude measured in what units, Jax?

Ole Thom

2 point question
 

Should have been "unless you cross the equator exactly after the first
21 hours" instead of 7.
I thought you went North first. My teacher apparently forgot to tell
me to read the question thoroughly before answering.

Maybe I should comment a bit further on the "geometrical component".
It could be defined as a trigonometrically function of your
start-latitude and your speed over the ground.
Hint: A "parallel", the circle that consists of al points at a given
latitude (for instance 56 degrees North), is smaller (has a lesser
circumference) than any parallel closer to the poles and larger than
any parallel closer to equator, but they are all crossed by the same
number of longitudinal.

Peter S/Y Anicula

"Peter S/Y Anicula" skrev i en
meddelelse ...
"Thom Stewart" wrote:
......wouldld include leeway, tide, deviation and variation,
windage,
helmsmans error, etc.

That's pretty close, but you are missing one thing:
Unless you crossed the equator exactly after the first 7 hours which
is statistically very unlikely there vould also be a geometrical
component due to the fact that you are sailing on a globe
and not on a pancake.

Velocity over the ground (?) ("beholden fart" in my native
language)
in a unit of nautical miles
per 56 hours, would be the closest I can think of, but it doeen't
make
much sense.


Peter S/Y Anicula

2 point question
 

Yet another correction:
It is of course the parallels closer to equator that are the larger
ones, and the ones closer to the poles that are smaller. But you
already knew that I meant the opposite of what I wrote, didn't you?

Hint: A "parallel", the circle that consists of al points at a given
latitude (for instance 56 degrees North), is smaller (has a lesser
circumference) than any parallel closer to the poles and larger
than
any parallel closer to equator, but they are all crossed by the same
number of longitudinal.

Peter S/Y Anicula

P.S. Am I talking to myself here ?

"Peter S/Y Anicula" skrev i en
meddelelse ...
Should have been "unless you cross the equator exactly after the
first
21 hours" instead of 7.
I thought you went North first. My teacher apparently forgot to tell
me to read the question thoroughly before answering.

Maybe I should comment a bit further on the "geometrical component".
It could be defined as a trigonometrically function of your
start-latitude and your speed over the ground.
Hint: A "parallel", the circle that consists of al points at a given
latitude (for instance 56 degrees North), is smaller (has a lesser
circumference) than any parallel closer to the poles and larger
than
any parallel closer to equator, but they are all crossed by the same
number of longitudinal.

Peter S/Y Anicula

"Peter S/Y Anicula" skrev i en
meddelelse ...
"Thom Stewart" wrote:
......wouldld include leeway, tide, deviation and variation,
windage,
helmsmans error, etc.

That's pretty close, but you are missing one thing:
Unless you crossed the equator exactly after the first 7 hours
which
is statistically very unlikely there vould also be a geometrical
component due to the fact that you are sailing on a globe
and not on a pancake.

Velocity over the ground (?) ("beholden fart" in my native
language)
in a unit of nautical miles
per 56 hours, would be the closest I can think of, but it doeen't
make
much sense.


Peter S/Y Anicula

2 point question
 

On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 19:33:13 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Vectors alway have magnitude

Magnitude measured in what units, Jax?

It doesn't matter.






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