GWB is making hard decisions, and exercising great restraint in dealing
with the present situation. I liken him to Winston Churchill.

GWB is tough enough to realize that something has to be done,
while most leaders have been appeasers. GWB was the man to
bring down the Saddam. I think that was a good choice.

In the past migrations have resulted in genocide. It is happening
again and either one must chose to tolerate it or chose to stop it.

You have to be either for genocide or against it. What is your choice?

DSK wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

He was also one tough guy. Reagan-like in some respects. After his
term was over, he was giving a speech, had a heart attack, and downed
his pills without anyone realizing it.

Go read up a bit LBJ, not sure where you're getting these impressions. He
was
a mean & greedy ******* IMHO... he may have been tough (after all he was a
Texan) but not in a way that did the country any good. I'd have no
hesitation
in ranking LBJ as the worst Democrat President of the just-past century.

BTW Bart, I'm curious... are you serious in saying the George Bush Jr is
IYHO
a good President? If so, on what grounds?

DSK

Bart Senior wrote:

GWB is making hard decisions, and exercising great restraint in dealing
with the present situation. I liken him to Winston Churchill.

Right. Except that Winston Churchill was a fine orator, and GWB often stumbles
over big words & long syllables. Winston Churchill came from an aristocratic
family background, GWB came from a war-profiteering & oil money background, and
is a 3rd generation politician. Churchill was a brave soldier who sought out
heavy fighting, Bush avoided the war in Viet Nam. Churchill was well known for
his witty comments at parties, Bush is a former frat-boy partier now reformed &
a Bible-thumping teetotaller. Churchill inspired his country to fight a
tremendous menace, Bush has enriched his cronies by sending poor & middle-class
sons, brothers, and fathers, to fight an unproven cause... other than the basic
fact that he lied about the cause, which is well proven.

Yeah, Churchill & GWB are much the same Bart.





GWB is tough enough to realize that something has to be done,
while most leaders have been appeasers. GWB was the man to
bring down the Saddam. I think that was a good choice.

If he had waited 6 months more to build a coalition, like Bush Sr did, then I'd
agree. But to alienate our allies and destroy our int'l good will so as to
launch a war for reasons that were a lie, I think was a very very poor choice.
Criminal, in fact!




In the past migrations have resulted in genocide. It is happening
again and either one must chose to tolerate it or chose to stop it.

You have to be either for genocide or against it. What is your choice?

WTF??

Bush is not intervening in any of the current ongoing genocides. AFAIK the U.S.
has no plans to intervene anywhere in Africa or Indonesia.

DSK

DSK wrote
Bart Senior wrote:

GWB is making hard decisions, and exercising great restraint in dealing
with the present situation. I liken him to Winston Churchill.


sons, brothers, and fathers, to fight an unproven cause... other than the
basic
fact that he lied about the cause, which is well proven.

Yeah, Churchill & GWB are much the same Bart.

Glad you agree.

GWB is tough enough to realize that something has to be done,
while most leaders have been appeasers. GWB was the man to
bring down the Saddam. I think that was a good choice.

If he had waited 6 months more to build a coalition, like Bush Sr did,
then I'd
agree. But to alienate our allies and destroy our int'l good will so as to
launch a war for reasons that were a lie, I think was a very very poor
choice.
Criminal, in fact!

Waiting 6 months would have done nothing except put our soldiers into war
fighting in the hottest time of the year, possibly wearing chemical warfare
clothing--the heat of that would have killed them. Bush was smart not to
let
the UN stop him, when the would not act on their resolutions.

How can you say France and Germany are allies, when they have been
bought off by Iraqi oil? Also, France didn't want to go to war, because
they didn't know which side to surrender to. Germany has a special
relationship with the Arabs because the Arabs idolize Hitler.

It was widely recognized that Iraq has used chemical weapons, had a
chemcial weapopns program, and many countries, most noteworthy, Russia,
warned the US Iraq was building chemical weapons.

http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/crs/#iraq

There may still be piles of stuff buried over there somewhere. No evidence
was provided to support that there weapons were destroyed.

It wrong to say Bush lied. It is more relevant that Saddam was an evil,
ruthless dictator who murdered hundered of thousands of people. Such
people should not get away with it. The most important thing GWB did
was send a message to other regimes, that they too, will not be able to
get away with it.