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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:21:53 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

It might feel good to beat someone to a pulp for stealing a
car, but it isn't what this country is about.

You stupid ass. He was caught at the wheel of the stolen car.

I say, beat him until he's puking blood. Then punish him.





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Joe wrote:



Whats wrong Jonathan did that cop that beat the snot out of that car
thief with in maglight **** you off?

I think every car thief should get at least 12 wacks with a
flashlight in the face.

Why not just simple public flogging Joe?

Cheers
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But he won't admit it's about the oil. If he were just honest
about it, I would hate him a bit less.

Why don't you get it through your stupid thick skull, once and for all, that it
is not about oil. It may be about misconceived notions of democracy-building,
but it ain't about oil. Use what little of your brain hasn't been addled by
following around your liberal masters like a little baby chick.

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Well, that's the problem. It's easy to single out something that's
obvious. What if it's not quite so obvious? Then, you leave it
up to the cop to make a judgement call. Then, you have the
potential of an innocent person going to jail or worse. It's better
to free 10 guilty people that an innocent person should go to
jail. That's the American way. That's justice and equality.

It might feel good to beat someone to a pulp for stealing a
car, but it isn't what this country is about.

Well, there you go, Jon boy. A cogent, well-crafted response.
Congratulations.

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Bobspirt wrote:
Why don't you get it through your stupid thick skull, once and for
all, that it
is not about oil.

Why *isn't* it about oil? That would actually make sense. War for profit
has a very long history... it has rather low moral standing, but it is
entirely logical.

.. It may be about misconceived notions of democracy-building,
but it ain't about oil.

In other words, it's about something vague & undefined, impractical &
extremely expensive, and against the declared policy of Bush & Cheney's
administration. But this allows equally vague pretension to moral
superiority.


... Use what little of your brain hasn't been addled by
following around your liberal masters like a little baby chick.

Use what little of your brain exists in the first place to observe the
world for yourself, and try to grasp the principles by which people &
countries act.

The choice: war for oil, profitable yet evil... war for
democracy-building, very very unprofitable (especially politically) and
stupid...

Bush is stupid but Cheney is not. They both have a long lng history of
profit seeking... hmmm... this is really a puzzler...

DSK

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Bobspirt wrote:
Why don't you get it through your stupid thick skull, once and for
all, that it
is not about oil.




Why *isn't* it about oil? That would actually make sense. War for profit
has a very long history... it has rather low moral standing, but it is
entirely logical.

Maybe because during the development of it oil hit its highest price ever.
Maybe because there is no coherent theory backing up such a claim. Maybe
because the oil is already flowing, but not to us. Nice little history lesson
there, Doug. Why don't you enlighten us with the last time the US conducted a
war for profit.

.. It may be about misconceived notions of democracy-building,
but it ain't about oil.

In other words, it's about something vague & undefined, impractical &
extremely expensive, and against the declared policy of Bush & Cheney's
administration. But this allows equally vague pretension to moral
superiority.

Uh, whatever. Your problem is you take everything too personally and you can't
back down in the face of being wrong. There is no pretension to moral
superiority here.

... Use what little of your brain hasn't been addled by
following around your liberal masters like a little baby chick.

Use what little of your brain exists in the first place to observe the
world for yourself, and try to grasp the principles by which people &
countries act.

The choice: war for oil, profitable yet evil... war for
democracy-building, very very unprofitable (especially politically) and
stupid...

Again, with the war for profit thing. Lay out a detailed explanation. Who is
going to profit and how? Wait, let me guess, Halliburton. Oh but there was no
response to my explanation to you the other day that one could profit with much
less risk in the market generally. No meat here from Doug, as usual.

Bush is stupid but Cheney is not. They both have a long lng history of
profit seeking... hmmm... this is really a puzzler...

You are proving yourself to be a real crank, buying into long-discredited
conspiracy theories. "long history of profit seeking" bwahahahahahaha - like
its evil or something. You crack me up.

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Bobspirt wrote:
Again, with the war for profit thing. Lay out a detailed explanation.

Why? It's very very simple... Both the current President and current
Vice-President, and lots of their biggest contributors, have very close
ties to the oil business and the military contracting business. Fighting
a war is going to be profitable to one, fighting a war for oil is going
to be profitable for both. Kinda neat... as long as you're not the one
getting shot at...


... Who is
going to profit and how? Wait, let me guess, Halliburton. Oh but there was no
response to my explanation to you the other day that one could profit with much
less risk in the market generally. No meat here from Doug, as usual.

Oh really? How come Halliburton's profit's are up almost 600% since the
start of the war? How come they are currently fighting charges that they
overbilled the Army by approx 90 million dollars?

Tell me where you can make that kind of profit "in the market generally"
especially with "much less risk."


You are proving yourself to be a real crank, buying into long-discredited
conspiracy theories. "long history of profit seeking" bwahahahahahaha - like
its evil or something.

It's only evil if you kill other people to make a profit for yourself.
Bonus points if you can imprison them for no reason and torture a few.

... You crack me up.

You must have a very sick sense of humor.

DSK

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Vice-President, and lots of their biggest contributors, have very close
ties to the oil business and the military contracting business. Fighting
a war is going to be profitable to one, fighting a war for oil is going
to be profitable for both. Kinda neat... as long as you're not the one
getting shot at...

That does not explain anything.

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Just like your tits suit you? At least I can wear a suit without
looking like a lesbian.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:18:35 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Is that what you do?? I've never heard of that particular
fetish.

Being dumb suits you well.





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And you're a ****ing fascist. What's your point?

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:21:53 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

It might feel good to beat someone to a pulp for stealing a
car, but it isn't what this country is about.

You stupid ass. He was caught at the wheel of the stolen car.

I say, beat him until he's puking blood. Then punish him.





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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Well, that's the problem. It's easy to single out something that's
obvious.

Yes it is, It was odvious he stole the car and tried to aviod getting
caught.
He was caught Red Handed. Someone saw and reported him stealing it. He
used approx 10 grand of public money fleeing from the cops for over
30min.


What if it's not quite so obvious? Then, you leave it
up to the cop to make a judgement call.

No you do not. Cops go to jail every day. Im sure the guy who got
caught smacking the thief will be punished. Still I stand by what I
said.
" I think every car thief should be smaked in the face at least a
dozen time with a flashlight" Not suspected thief, but thief.

Seems car thiefs here that are caught usually get a 3 year sentence
and are out walking the streets again in 6 mo. In other words IF the
guy got caught that stole my truck he would of spent less time in jail
than I did working to earn the money to buy the truck. And on top of
that taxpayers would of been shafted with a 5000 dollar bill for due
process costs. He would of had a stay in a clean warm cell with TV,
Drugs, Cokes, Pop corn, weight room,free education, counceling,
exercise room, 3 square meals a day, medical care ect.........

While I have to head back offshore, stand out in the freezing rain
offloading a boat in 10 foot seas, eat cold food because it to rough
to cook, get beat half to death flying across the waves at 25 knots be
away from friends and family, miss out on 200 days ashore just because
some sorry ass usless MF steals instead of works.

Perhaps if we made a mandatory sentence of being smaked in the face
with a flashlight a dozen times these thiefs might think twice before
stealing.


Do you think that thief would of hesitated for one second killing
someone if he knew he would of gotten away scot free? I mean he came
close to hitting several cars while trying to flee.

Then, you have the
potential of an innocent person going to jail or worse. It's better
to free 10 guilty people that an innocent person should go to
jail.

I agree. But if it looks, walks and quacks like a duck, smells like a
duck and 50 experts tell you its a duck. It's most likely a duck.



That's the American way. That's justice and equality.

No American justice was when a horse thief was caught red handed
stealing a horse and they strung them up on the nearest tree.

It might feel good to beat someone to a pulp for stealing a
car, but it isn't what this country is about.

Our country is about Justice for all. Including victims.

Thank god what comes around goes around in spite of our "justice"
system.

Take OJ for instance. He beat our system, but everyone knows he
murdered 2 people. He living the life he made for himself. If I ever
see him I will do all I can to set him off, and Im sure there are 100
of thousands of other that do the same.

Look at Jeff Dauimer, came back to him did it not?

The car thief just got a small taste of what he most likely dished out
every day.





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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well, that's about par for your course. No one deserves to be
treated that way. I suppose you know for sure that the car thief
is really a thief. He doesn't need a judge and jury, just a cop
and a club.


He was caught fleeing in the stolen car, did you not see the 30 min.
chase live on TV? I thought you CA people stopped everything for a
live chase on TV.
I have a deep distain for auto thiefs. Once I bought a very nice
truck, Ford w a new balanced and blueprinted 351 cleverland 3 speed on
the colum Emron paint Crager SS rims it was sweet paid cash and had it
stolen within a week. I was out 15K. Where is my justice?

I worked my butt off and stayed offshore for 200 days to make enough
cash to buy the truck. Not only that I had a weeks worth of grocerys
in the truck.
Guess its just to bad for me huh? Who cares just as long as a crack
addicted thief get his due process even when he is caught red handed
the tax payers need to pay several grand more to give him his due
process huh. If I had caught the thief I would do allot more than beat
him with a flashlight.

Joe




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"Joe" wrote in message
m...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
And, that's what the religious right is doing in this country..
violence
against women, against minorities, against regular citizens in the
US,
and against foreigners in the name of "Christianity."


Whats wrong Jonathan did that cop that beat the snot out of that car
thief with in maglight **** you off?

I think every car thief should get at least 12 wacks with a
flashlight in the face.

Seems you guys in CA have some very angry policemen. And I thought
Houston cops had an attitude

Joe

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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
(Bobsprit) wrote in message
...
How sick are these dirtbags, just heard they chopped off the S.
Korean's head.
I bet they were chanting God is great when they did it.


People who do horrible things tend to do it with an
"endorsement"
from
their
god.

RB

Real knowledge of God and religion is spread by perfect and
complete
knowledge alone, never by violence and terrorism.

When religion spreads by violence instead of complete knowledge
then
it actually becomes the antithesis of religion itself ~ it becomes
sinful activity.

Thats is what todays jihad fanatics are doing to islam, they
embrace
what suits their purpose, yet ignore the rest.

Joe

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Sorry, but as soon as you "know" someone did a crime without
due process, you're promoting everything that is against justice
and everything that is anti-American. You'd be no better than the
terrorist who kills babies and claims it's in the name of religion.

If you don't like the sentences that judges give to convicted criminals,
write to Congress or your state legislature and get them to change
the statutes. Vigilanty justice isn't justice.

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"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well, that's the problem. It's easy to single out something that's
obvious.

Yes it is, It was odvious he stole the car and tried to aviod getting
caught.
He was caught Red Handed. Someone saw and reported him stealing it. He
used approx 10 grand of public money fleeing from the cops for over
30min.


What if it's not quite so obvious? Then, you leave it
up to the cop to make a judgement call.

No you do not. Cops go to jail every day. Im sure the guy who got
caught smacking the thief will be punished. Still I stand by what I
said.
" I think every car thief should be smaked in the face at least a
dozen time with a flashlight" Not suspected thief, but thief.

Seems car thiefs here that are caught usually get a 3 year sentence
and are out walking the streets again in 6 mo. In other words IF the
guy got caught that stole my truck he would of spent less time in jail
than I did working to earn the money to buy the truck. And on top of
that taxpayers would of been shafted with a 5000 dollar bill for due
process costs. He would of had a stay in a clean warm cell with TV,
Drugs, Cokes, Pop corn, weight room,free education, counceling,
exercise room, 3 square meals a day, medical care ect.........

While I have to head back offshore, stand out in the freezing rain
offloading a boat in 10 foot seas, eat cold food because it to rough
to cook, get beat half to death flying across the waves at 25 knots be
away from friends and family, miss out on 200 days ashore just because
some sorry ass usless MF steals instead of works.

Perhaps if we made a mandatory sentence of being smaked in the face
with a flashlight a dozen times these thiefs might think twice before
stealing.


Do you think that thief would of hesitated for one second killing
someone if he knew he would of gotten away scot free? I mean he came
close to hitting several cars while trying to flee.

Then, you have the
potential of an innocent person going to jail or worse. It's better
to free 10 guilty people that an innocent person should go to
jail.

I agree. But if it looks, walks and quacks like a duck, smells like a
duck and 50 experts tell you its a duck. It's most likely a duck.



That's the American way. That's justice and equality.

No American justice was when a horse thief was caught red handed
stealing a horse and they strung them up on the nearest tree.

It might feel good to beat someone to a pulp for stealing a
car, but it isn't what this country is about.

Our country is about Justice for all. Including victims.

Thank god what comes around goes around in spite of our "justice"
system.

Take OJ for instance. He beat our system, but everyone knows he
murdered 2 people. He living the life he made for himself. If I ever
see him I will do all I can to set him off, and Im sure there are 100
of thousands of other that do the same.

Look at Jeff Dauimer, came back to him did it not?

The car thief just got a small taste of what he most likely dished out
every day.





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www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Well, that's about par for your course. No one deserves to be
treated that way. I suppose you know for sure that the car thief
is really a thief. He doesn't need a judge and jury, just a cop
and a club.


He was caught fleeing in the stolen car, did you not see the 30 min.
chase live on TV? I thought you CA people stopped everything for a
live chase on TV.
I have a deep distain for auto thiefs. Once I bought a very nice
truck, Ford w a new balanced and blueprinted 351 cleverland 3 speed on
the colum Emron paint Crager SS rims it was sweet paid cash and had it
stolen within a week. I was out 15K. Where is my justice?

I worked my butt off and stayed offshore for 200 days to make enough
cash to buy the truck. Not only that I had a weeks worth of grocerys
in the truck.
Guess its just to bad for me huh? Who cares just as long as a crack
addicted thief get his due process even when he is caught red handed
the tax payers need to pay several grand more to give him his due
process huh. If I had caught the thief I would do allot more than beat
him with a flashlight.

Joe




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"Joe" wrote in message
m...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
And, that's what the religious right is doing in this country..
violence
against women, against minorities, against regular citizens in
the
US,
and against foreigners in the name of "Christianity."


Whats wrong Jonathan did that cop that beat the snot out of that
car
thief with in maglight **** you off?

I think every car thief should get at least 12 wacks with a
flashlight in the face.

Seems you guys in CA have some very angry policemen. And I
thought
Houston cops had an attitude

Joe

--
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www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
(Bobsprit) wrote in message
...
How sick are these dirtbags, just heard they chopped off the
S.
Korean's head.
I bet they were chanting God is great when they did it.


People who do horrible things tend to do it with an
"endorsement"
from
their
god.

RB

Real knowledge of God and religion is spread by perfect and
complete
knowledge alone, never by violence and terrorism.

When religion spreads by violence instead of complete
knowledge
then
it actually becomes the antithesis of religion itself ~ it
becomes
sinful activity.

Thats is what todays jihad fanatics are doing to islam, they
embrace
what suits their purpose, yet ignore the rest.

Joe

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:19:48 -0400, Martin Baxter
wrote this crap:

I think every car thief should get at least 12 wacks with a
flashlight in the face.

Why not just simple public flogging Joe?


Flashlight beating first, then public humiliation and flogging. Then
the real punishment can start.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:13:35 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Just like your tits suit you? At least I can wear a suit without
looking like a lesbian.

No, you'll still look gay.





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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:17:18 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:


If you don't like the sentences that judges give to convicted criminals,
write to Congress or your state legislature and get them to change
the statutes. Vigilanty justice isn't justice.


Says Who? Your liberal gay buttees?





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Perhaps I do for you, but then again every guy looks gay to you.
Says a lot about Horass, his tits, and his lifestyle. Thanks for
sharing.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 10:13:35 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Just like your tits suit you? At least I can wear a suit without
looking like a lesbian.

No, you'll still look gay.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

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Not I. The US Constitution. You're quite the fool. Keep typing.
It's great entertainment.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 13:17:18 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:


If you don't like the sentences that judges give to convicted criminals,
write to Congress or your state legislature and get them to change
the statutes. Vigilanty justice isn't justice.


Says Who? Your liberal gay buttees?





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Yep. Horass wants to do them in the ass.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:19:48 -0400, Martin Baxter
wrote this crap:

I think every car thief should get at least 12 wacks with a
flashlight in the face.

Why not just simple public flogging Joe?


Flashlight beating first, then public humiliation and flogging. Then
the real punishment can start.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:08:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

If you don't like the sentences that judges give to convicted criminals,
write to Congress or your state legislature and get them to change
the statutes. Vigilanty justice isn't justice.


Says Who? Your liberal gay buttees?



Not I. The US Constitution. You're quite the fool. Keep typing.
It's great entertainment.


Now what part of the Constitution says that vigilanty justice isn't
justice?

Did your mother smoke, drink, and do crack when she was pregnant with
you?


Do yer gay buttees know you post this kind of bull****.





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I only have one response for you Horass... you're an idiot.
You're pretty much said that yourself, but I thought I would
repeat it just for you.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:08:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

If you don't like the sentences that judges give to convicted
criminals,
write to Congress or your state legislature and get them to change
the statutes. Vigilanty justice isn't justice.


Says Who? Your liberal gay buttees?



Not I. The US Constitution. You're quite the fool. Keep typing.
It's great entertainment.


Now what part of the Constitution says that vigilanty justice isn't
justice?

Did your mother smoke, drink, and do crack when she was pregnant with
you?


Do yer gay buttees know you post this kind of bull****.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

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"Joe" wrote in message
| I agree. But if it looks, walks and quacks like a duck, smells like a
| duck and 50 experts tell you its a duck. It's most likely a duck.

Unless the experts work for the CIA.... then you can be certain it's a
canary.... because Bush will tell you it's a duck.

CM

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How about a good old fashioned beheading..... it seems all the rage.

CM

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
| On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 07:19:48 -0400, Martin Baxter
| wrote this crap:
|
| I think every car thief should get at least 12 wacks with a
| flashlight in the face.
|
| Why not just simple public flogging Joe?
|
|
| Flashlight beating first, then public humiliation and flogging. Then
| the real punishment can start.
|
|
|
|
|
| Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

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"Joe" wrote in message

| Just think what the world would be like now if Americans were not
| willing to help rid the world of evil leaders. Donal would be speaking
| German and Saddam would still be chopping of body parts, raping women
| in front of their husbands gassing the Kurds, invading Kuwait, and
| shooting at our planes. Hawaii would be part of the empire of Japan
| and the russians would be the only Superpower going.

So?..... lots of folks speak German and the Japanese hold a major part of
the global trade. You want evil doers?? Where were you during the
atrocities in Africa? Oh Yeah... no money in that one eh? If you're the
"good guys"... why is it that Americans aren't the most popular people in
most countries outside of North America? Everyone likes the Canadians.

CM

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote
Everyone likes the Canadians.


Everyone likes pushovers.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote
| Everyone likes the Canadians.
|
|
| Everyone likes pushovers.

I'm tellin'......

CM

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On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:35:28 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:

How about a good old fashioned beheading..... it seems all the rage.

That's too quick and easy for a car thief. How about a beHANDing?
He'll never steal another car.





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Is that what happened to you when you stuck your hand
so far up your boyfriend's ass?

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:35:28 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:

How about a good old fashioned beheading..... it seems all the rage.

That's too quick and easy for a car thief. How about a beHANDing?
He'll never steal another car.





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