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JN June 6th 04 11:56 AM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
Yes, it's true. America had suffered greatly under Jimmy Carter, a
good-hearted but weak leader who let the rest of the world beat his country
into submission and disgrace. Much of our problems today linger from the
middle east's discovery that America can be beaten like a scared dog under
that term. Ronald Reagan rescued our country from that administration which
had the audacity to announce on national television that Americans had life
too good and the time had come for them to accept less. He restored most of
the world's respect for the country they expected to contribute the most
financially and in the lives of her citizens to save them from those whose
objectives included their total domination. He told Americans we deserve
more because we contribute more. He restored America.

As with any person's passing, great or small, there are those who have no
respect. They tend to freeload rather than contribute. They the ones who
care not for the whole, but only for themselves. Even among us, there are
those who are best ignored.

Rest well Mr. Reagan. The producers and accomplishers of the country you
leave behind appreciate your work.



Capt. Mooron June 6th 04 12:32 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
The Bin Ladens backed your current President's election campaign..... he
was so involved with the Saudi's and specifically the Bin Ladens that it's
embarrassing you folks aren't more aware of it.

Are all of your Presidents tarnished with horrendous scandal and backroom
dealings? It seems like it.

CM



"JN" wrote in message
.. .
| Yes, it's true. America had suffered greatly under Jimmy Carter, a
| good-hearted but weak leader who let the rest of the world beat his
country
| into submission and disgrace. Much of our problems today linger from the
| middle east's discovery that America can be beaten like a scared dog under
| that term. Ronald Reagan rescued our country from that administration
which
| had the audacity to announce on national television that Americans had
life
| too good and the time had come for them to accept less. He restored most
of
| the world's respect for the country they expected to contribute the most
| financially and in the lives of her citizens to save them from those whose
| objectives included their total domination. He told Americans we deserve
| more because we contribute more. He restored America.
|
| As with any person's passing, great or small, there are those who have no
| respect. They tend to freeload rather than contribute. They the ones
who
| care not for the whole, but only for themselves. Even among us, there are
| those who are best ignored.
|
| Rest well Mr. Reagan. The producers and accomplishers of the country you
| leave behind appreciate your work.
|
|



An Metet June 6th 04 01:22 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
The Bin Ladens backed your current President's election
campaign..... he
was so involved with the Saudi's and specifically the Bin Ladens that

it's
embarrassing you folks aren't more aware of it.

Are all of your Presidents tarnished with horrendous scandal and

backroom
dealings? It seems like it.

CM


What an idiot you are. The name "Bin Laden" tells you as much about a
Saudi as the name "Smith" tells you about an American. Osama Bin Laden
is the black sheep of the family. The name "Bin Laden" means nothing.

There are only two political strains in Saudi Arabia: House of Saud, or
fanatical Wahhabism. Which would you choose, genius? A bunch of rich
princes who spend their dollars on luxuries, or a bunch of terrorist
Wahhabis who spend their dollars killing infidels? Is that a hard
choice for you?


Anonymous June 6th 04 02:18 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
Hmmmm, you obviously aren't well read.
Try a little reading on the Saudi royals and their financial support
of Osama and his cronies.


Yes, and Chicago bar owners must have loved Al Capone because they gave
him a bag of cash every week. What's your point? Paying protection
money isn't working quite as well lately. Never does. There are
thousands of "royals" and some are fanatical, but most are just scared
of being assassinated by terrorist nuts that won’t be bought off.
-=-
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Capt. Mooron June 6th 04 09:35 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 

"An Metet" wrote in message

| What an idiot you are. The name "Bin Laden" tells you as much about a
| Saudi as the name "Smith" tells you about an American. Osama Bin Laden
| is the black sheep of the family. The name "Bin Laden" means nothing.

Means nothing yet you claim he's the son of the family bank rolling your
President! That alone speaks volumes!
|
| There are only two political strains in Saudi Arabia: House of Saud, or
| fanatical Wahhabism. Which would you choose, genius? A bunch of rich
| princes who spend their dollars on luxuries, or a bunch of terrorist
| Wahhabis who spend their dollars killing infidels? Is that a hard
| choice for you?


Doesn't seem to be a hard choice for your corrupt President does it???

CM



Vito June 7th 04 01:00 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
"JN" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, it's true. America had suffered greatly under Jimmy Carter, ...


Sorry to bust your bubble but RR got Jimmy elected. We had an excellent
president, arguably the most honest man in Washington, in Gerry Ford. But,
had he won, it'd have been 8 years before another Republican could run vs 4
if Carter won. Mindful of his own deteriorating mental condition, RR failed
to rally the radical Christian right wing of the party, which he controlled,
to Ford and instead turned them toward Carter - a minister.

Give the man his due, but let's not start rewriting history before he's
buried.



Jonathan Ganz June 7th 04 06:02 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
Carter is a great ex-president.

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"Vito" wrote in message
...
"JN" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, it's true. America had suffered greatly under Jimmy Carter, ...


Sorry to bust your bubble but RR got Jimmy elected. We had an excellent
president, arguably the most honest man in Washington, in Gerry Ford. But,
had he won, it'd have been 8 years before another Republican could run vs

4
if Carter won. Mindful of his own deteriorating mental condition, RR

failed
to rally the radical Christian right wing of the party, which he

controlled,
to Ford and instead turned them toward Carter - a minister.

Give the man his due, but let's not start rewriting history before he's
buried.





Jonathan Ganz June 7th 04 10:13 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
Yup. Terrible. He cared too much and told the truth too many times.
He was also an extreme micromanger, apparently.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:02:11 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Carter is a great ex-president.


Perhaps. But he was a lousy President.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

Who goes duck hunting with Jamie Gorelick?




Horvath June 7th 04 11:49 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:02:11 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Carter is a great ex-president.


After leaving the White House, he had no place to go but up.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Navigator June 8th 04 02:57 AM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 


Horvath wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:02:11 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:


Carter is a great ex-president.



After leaving the White House, he had no place to go but up.



I thought that was Monica!

Cheers


Horvath June 8th 04 04:39 AM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:57:15 +1200, Navigator wrote
this crap:

Carter is a great ex-president.



After leaving the White House, he had no place to go but up.



I thought that was Monica!


No. Monica was only going down.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Jonathan Ganz June 8th 04 04:44 AM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
Amazingly, I agree with you.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:02:11 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Carter is a great ex-president.


After leaving the White House, he had no place to go but up.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!




thunder June 8th 04 02:14 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:09:07 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:02:11 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Carter is a great ex-president.


Perhaps. But he was a lousy President.


Perhaps 9/11 would never have happened.

http://www.faultline.org/news/2001/1...ependence.html

Jonathan Ganz June 8th 04 03:35 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
Interesting theory... I guess we'll never know. BTW, when I
said Carter was a lousy pres, I didn't mean that he had bad
ideas. He just implemented them poorly, and he forgot that
the great unwashed are not interested in "belt tightening"
unless there is an urgent need and a just cause. All he did
was alienate people.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 16:09:07 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:02:11 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
said:

Carter is a great ex-president.


Perhaps. But he was a lousy President.


Perhaps 9/11 would never have happened.

http://www.faultline.org/news/2001/1...ependence.html




Vito June 8th 04 06:37 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
"thunder" wrote

Perhaps 9/11 would never have happened.

http://www.faultline.org/news/2001/1...ependence.html


We talk as tho there were only two options: energy independence or
terrorism. That's only true so long as we lack the guts to consider and
impliment others. For example, ever heard of a neutron bomb - a nuke that
kills everything for miles with minimal property damage using short-lived
radiation? We could simply eradicate the populations that produce and
support terrorism then suck up all the oil we need. Let's see, where to
start .....?



thunder June 8th 04 08:41 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 13:37:05 -0400, Vito wrote:


For example, ever heard of a neutron bomb - a nuke that
kills everything for miles with minimal property damage using short-lived
radiation? We could simply eradicate the populations that produce and
support terrorism then suck up all the oil we need. Let's see, where to
start .....?


Yeah, that would work. Guy, sooner or later, we are going to have to deal
with the oil situation. Many experts agree that we are at or approaching
peak oil. It just doesn't get any better than this.

"It has often been said that, if the human species fails to make a go of
it here on Earth, some other species will take over the running. In the
sense of developing high intelligence this is not correct. We have, or
soon will have, exhausted the necessary physical prerequisites so far as
this planet is concerned. With coal gone, oil gone, high-grade metallic
ores gone, no species however competent can make the long climb from
primitive conditions to high-level technology. This is a one-shot affair.
If we fail, this planetary system fails so far as intelligence is
concerned. The same will be true of other planetary systems. On each of
them there will be one chance, and one chance only." (Hoyle, 1964)

thunder June 8th 04 08:49 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 07:35:39 -0700, Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Interesting theory... I guess we'll never know. BTW, when I said Carter
was a lousy pres, I didn't mean that he had bad ideas. He just implemented
them poorly, and he forgot that the great unwashed are not interested in
"belt tightening" unless there is an urgent need and a just cause. All he
did was alienate people.


While I wouldn't call his Presidency successful, it was a long way from
the worst we have had. Somewhere along our way, someone promised us a
free lunch. We are still paying for it.

Horvath June 9th 04 01:25 AM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 13:37:05 -0400, "Vito" wrote
this crap:

"thunder" wrote

Perhaps 9/11 would never have happened.

http://www.faultline.org/news/2001/1...ependence.html


We talk as tho there were only two options: energy independence or
terrorism. That's only true so long as we lack the guts to consider and
impliment others. For example, ever heard of a neutron bomb - a nuke that
kills everything for miles with minimal property damage using short-lived
radiation? We could simply eradicate the populations that produce and
support terrorism then suck up all the oil we need. Let's see, where to
start .....?


California.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Vito June 9th 04 02:17 PM

Ronald Reagan SAVED America
 

"thunder" wrote

"It has often been said that, if the human species fails to make a go of
it here on Earth, some other species will take over the running. In the
sense of developing high intelligence this is not correct. We have, or
soon will have, exhausted the necessary physical prerequisites so far as
this planet is concerned. ... The same will be true of other planetary

systems. On each of
them there will be one chance, and one chance only." (Hoyle, 1964)


We didn't know about astroid impacts and calderas back in '64. The
Yellowstone Caldera will force a restart long before all the resources are
gone. The last such event, only a third the size, knocked the human
population back to about 2000. This will be 3-4X worse but given our
technology even more will survive, perhaps as many as 100,000. There'll be
plenty for those few.




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