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Ronald Reagan died today. He had his faults, but he was a tough
hombre.

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Ronald Reagan died today. He had his faults, but he was a tough
hombre.


Too many faults, Jonathan. And he was as tough as the best medical science
available to keep him going.
Reagan fought against a woman's right to choose, most environmental bills,
women's equal pay act and so on.
Sure, the old ******* is dead, but that doesn't skew my memory one bit. When
Bush dies I won't soften on that monster either.

RB

RB

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Ronald Reagan died today. He had his faults, but he was a tough
hombre.

Few actually knew that he fought incipient Alzheimer's through most, if not
all, of his two administrations. Considering that, he was a lot tougher
than he's been heretofore credited.

As to his faults, show me a man who doesn't have them. Oh, wait, I think
Bubbles believes himself free of them.

Max

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As to his faults, show me a man who doesn't have them.


Sorry, racists should not be presidents. This would also exclude you.

RB

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Few actually knew that he fought incipient Alzheimer's through most, if not
all, of his two administrations.

If this is true, then Reagan committed a crime against the country. His oath of
office demands than in the case of any mental impairment, that he forfiet his
command. If his people "protected him" and played puppeteer, then they also
committed crimes against the USA.
Look it up.

RB

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 12:18:43 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:



Few actually knew that he fought incipient Alzheimer's through most, if
not
all, of his two administrations. Considering that, he was a lot tougher
than he's been heretofore credited.


Hmmm, seems the urban legends have started already, either that or
your politicians are sillier than they look.

And who's aren't? Oh, I'm so sorry--I forgot that Australia is nigh well
perfect.

A Commander in Chief who's likely to forget what he's there for seems
just a tad incongruent...

Um, this seems to be a bit of an absurdity, doncha think? Does any CIC ever
recall why he was voted into office, and to whom he is accoutable (voters)?
Doubtful.

then again GWB is ther to boost his
retirement fund eh?

His retirement fund was well-established before he ran for office. Why he's
there is anyone's guess, since he ain't too adept at vocalizing anything.

Max

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Few actually knew that he fought incipient Alzheimer's through most, if
not
all, of his two administrations.

If this is true, then Reagan committed a crime against the country. His
oath of
office demands than in the case of any mental impairment, that he forfiet
his
command. If his people "protected him" and played puppeteer, then they
also
committed crimes against the USA.
Look it up.

I wouldn't expect you to know jack **** about Alzheimer's, Bubbles--or about
anything, for that matter, come to think of it--so I'll fill you in. It's a
progressive disease, generally beginning well before a person enters his
sixth decade (that would be his fifties, Bubbles, since I've no doubt you
couldn't do the math). Symptoms may appear immediately or be quite delayed.
Early Sx include simple forgetfulness, a mild inability to maintain mental
focus, and periodic mood swings. Later Sx include what most folks believe
classic Alzheimer's to be: drastic mood alteration, severe memory loss, and
an inability to maintain a train of thought. Reagan had mild mood swings
and occasional forgetfulness during the latter part of his first 4 years.
During his second term he began to suffer more extensive memory problems.
His disease wasn't diagnosed until well into his second term of office. And
as most presidents use staff to function as their memories, it was not
deemed a problem for Reagan. But with half his brain tied behind his back
he was still a far better, more effective president than either of the
Bushes or Clinton. As for your complete lack of a sense decency or
compassion for a man plagued with such a debilitating illness late in his
life, you are unworthy to be his boot licker.

Max

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

As to his faults, show me a man who doesn't have them.


Sorry, racists should not be presidents. This would also exclude you.

Me a racist? LOL!!!!!

How do you know I'm not African-American or Hispanic?

You make assumptions with no knowledge whatsoever, Bubbles. In other words,
you lack fundamental intelligence.

Max

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He wasn't better than Clinton, but he was a decent pres. I didn't
like a lot of his social policies, but at least he wasn't a crook or
liar, and he wasn't stupid, even though he was portrayed that
way. He was physically and mentally tough. I met him when he
was governer.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Few actually knew that he fought incipient Alzheimer's through most, if
not
all, of his two administrations.

If this is true, then Reagan committed a crime against the country. His
oath of
office demands than in the case of any mental impairment, that he
forfiet
his
command. If his people "protected him" and played puppeteer, then they
also
committed crimes against the USA.
Look it up.

I wouldn't expect you to know jack **** about Alzheimer's, Bubbles--or
about
anything, for that matter, come to think of it--so I'll fill you in. It's
a
progressive disease, generally beginning well before a person enters his
sixth decade (that would be his fifties, Bubbles, since I've no doubt you
couldn't do the math). Symptoms may appear immediately or be quite
delayed.
Early Sx include simple forgetfulness, a mild inability to maintain mental
focus, and periodic mood swings. Later Sx include what most folks believe
classic Alzheimer's to be: drastic mood alteration, severe memory loss,
and
an inability to maintain a train of thought. Reagan had mild mood swings
and occasional forgetfulness during the latter part of his first 4 years.
During his second term he began to suffer more extensive memory problems.
His disease wasn't diagnosed until well into his second term of office.
And
as most presidents use staff to function as their memories, it was not
deemed a problem for Reagan. But with half his brain tied behind his back
he was still a far better, more effective president than either of the
Bushes or Clinton. As for your complete lack of a sense decency or
compassion for a man plagued with such a debilitating illness late in his
life, you are unworthy to be his boot licker.

Max

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Reagan had mild mood swings
and occasional forgetfulness during the latter part of his first 4 years.
During his second term he began to suffer more extensive memory problems.
His disease wasn't diagnosed until well into his second term of office. And
as most presidents use staff to function as their memories, it was not
deemed a problem for Reagan.


Amazing that someone can write the above, let alone believe it. Then again
Horvath is still waiting for those WMDs to turn up!

RB

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As for your complete lack of a sense decency or
compassion for a man plagued with such a debilitating illness late in his
life, you are unworthy to be his boot licker.


Hey, Max. The racist mentally impaired president is dead. Worms will gag.
Sometimes disease strikes without direction. In this case it hit the right guy.
Racists should all end up drooling and calling their wives mommy!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

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Sorry, racists should not be presidents. This would also exclude you.

Me a racist? LOL!!!!!

How do you know I'm not African-American or Hispanic?


This idiot is SUCH a racist, he thinks a Hispanic can't be!!!
Kinda exposed yourself, Maxine!

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Sorry, racists should not be presidents. This would also exclude you.

Me a racist? LOL!!!!!

How do you know I'm not African-American or Hispanic?


This idiot is SUCH a racist, he thinks a Hispanic can't be!!!
Kinda exposed yourself, Maxine!

This idiot is such a dufus he thinks an African-American can't be a racist,
either.
Kinda exposed yourself to be brainless, Bubbles.

Max

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This idiot is such a dufus he thinks an African-American can't be a racist,
either.

I've reduced Max to simply copying my posts. Sorta makes me miss old Armpit!
Next the moron will be made of rubber!

RB

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OzOne wrote in message

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 02:35:57 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:

Um, this seems to be a bit of an absurdity, doncha think? Does any CIC
ever
recall why he was voted into office, and to whom he is accoutable
(voters)?
Doubtful.

Do they all suffer dementia?

Call it what you will. I tend to believe it's a convenient lapse of memory
regarding those who put them in office.

His retirement fund was well-established before he ran for office. Why
he's
there is anyone's guess, since he ain't too adept at vocalizing anything.

Sure it was, but the handouts he'll be getting as a result of jobs for
the boys in Iraq will sure boost it along eh?

Truly a cluster-****, ain't it?

Ever read about JFKs suitcases full of cash?

Ever read about all the White House possessions with which the Clintons
absconded when leaving? China, silverware, linens, computers, etc. And
that's just the stuff we were told about in the media.

Oh, and yes, I agree, GWB is a nincompoop who has forgotten why he was
elected...and it aint to clean up for Daddy.

What's truly disheartening is that at least half the population of this
country believe that John Kerry will be any better.

Max

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What's truly disheartening is that at least half the population of this
country believe that John Kerry will be any better.

No, used Maxipad, we just can't imagine he'd do worse!

RB

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Maxprop stated: His disease wasn't diagnosed until well into his second term
of office.

And in actuality, that diagnosis was just an accurate guess since at that
time, the only accurate way to diagnose Alzheimer's was a cadaver study on
the brain. Accurate diagnosis is new....Until very recently, Alzheimer's
was diagnosed as dementia, schizophrenia, bi-polar illness, stroke residue,
and autonomic nerve disease. They all share common paths and symptoms.

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Anything's worth a try.

Nope...the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know...
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and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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Maxprop stated: His disease wasn't diagnosed until well into his second term
of office.

???

katysails wrote:
And in actuality, that diagnosis was just an accurate guess since at that
time, the only accurate way to diagnose Alzheimer's was a cadaver study on
the brain.

I think Max was trying to be funny. Reagan wasn't diagnosed until well
after he left office.

... Accurate diagnosis is new....Until very recently, Alzheimer's
was diagnosed as dementia, schizophrenia, bi-polar illness, stroke residue,
and autonomic nerve disease. They all share common paths and symptoms.

Obviously, the lesson here is that we should elect a nun for
President... but only if we can find a Republican one...

DSK

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but only if we can find a Republican one...

I know a few Republican nuns but they wouldn't be interested in the job....

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"DSK" wrote in message


I think Max was trying to be funny. Reagan wasn't diagnosed until well
after he left office.

Actually I wasn't. Reagan's physicians all concluded that he was suffering
an unspecified age-related dementia while still in the White House. The
actual term, Alzheimer's, didn't come until later, but he and his doctors
knew he was ill before the term was applied to his case.

Obviously, the lesson here is that we should elect a nun for
President... but only if we can find a Republican one...

Oh great, a sexual pervert in the Oval Orifice.

Max

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
This idiot is such a dufus he thinks an African-American can't be a
racist,
either.

I've reduced Max to simply copying my posts. Sorta makes me miss old
Armpit!
Next the moron will be made of rubber!

I noticed that you didn't respond to my comment, Bubbles. As a matter of
fact, you never respond when proven stupid and wrong. The only rubber
around here is your inflatable wife.

Max

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

What's truly disheartening is that at least half the population of this
country believe that John Kerry will be any better.

No, used Maxipad, we just can't imagine he'd do worse!

Sorry you're so willing to put up with another incompetent boob in the job.
Then again your upbringing probably precludes any desire for something
better.

Max

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OzOne wrote in message

On Tue, 08 Jun 2004 14:02:52 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:

What's truly disheartening is that at least half the population of this
country believe that John Kerry will be any better.

Max

Anything's worth a try.

You're beginning to sound like Bubbles. How about John Kerry for the next
PM of Oz? Does everyone down under set his sights so low?

Max

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"katysails" wrote in message

Anything's worth a try.

Nope...the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know...

While true--and I generally subscribe to that philosophy--I'd rather find
someone with substance and integrity. Of course I'm dreaming where politics
are concerned.

Max

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Sorry you're so willing to put up with another incompetent boob in the job.



Well at least you've nailed Bush!!! You're right, we need to get him out ASAP!

RB

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Does everyone down under set his sights so low?


Nope, US republicans only.

RB

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BTW has GWB acknowledged yet that there never were WMD in Iraq at the
time he was planning his invasion

No, but he has launched a expensive probe into the intelligence failure.
Following the lie, Americans no get to pay for the coverup for the lie.

http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1628699

RB

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Maxprop wrote:
Actually I wasn't. Reagan's physicians all concluded that he was suffering
an unspecified age-related dementia while still in the White House. The
actual term, Alzheimer's, didn't come until later, but he and his doctors
knew he was ill before the term was applied to his case.

It's possible that Reagan's doctors noticed that he had problems in this
area while he was still in office, after all he perceived reality in a
different way all his life. But he wasn't diagnosed with Alzheimer's
until six years after he was out of office. That's a long gap for a
diagnosis.

DSK

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
He wasn't better than Clinton, but he was a decent pres. I didn't
like a lot of his social policies,

as did most other gays.

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message

Sorry you're so willing to put up with another incompetent boob in the
job.



Well at least you've nailed Bush!!! You're right, we need to get him out
ASAP!

Insipid, boring response, Bubbles. Really, you must do better if you want
to hold anyone's interest.

Max

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OzOne wrote in message

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 04:43:52 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


You're beginning to sound like Bubbles. How about John Kerry for the
next
PM of Oz? Does everyone down under set his sights so low?


"Anything'
that will try and unravel the damage that only one term under GWB and
his overly agressive war machine have done.

Are you deluded by Kerry's anti-Iraq war rhetoric? Do you honestly believe
that he, as Commander-in-Chief, will yank our troops? As long as we have
soldiers in a conflict zone and he is CIC, he's required by law to support
them and their mission. It won't take long to realize that the song was
right: "enter the new boss, same as the old boss."


I don't think particularly highly of Kerry however it's evident that
the man isn't the politics as evident by the US citizens propensity
for electing movie stars and personalities to positions of high
office.

Kerry the man will bring in a new order, one that is determined to
bring peace rather than continually provoke those with whose policies
they don't agree.

Perhaps, but I'd really like someone with a conscience, a sense of direction
(Kerry has shown nothing of this), and a plan. Kerry was quoted recently as
having told Senator Diane Feinstein that "the only notch I still don't have
on the old gunbelt is (the presidency)." Sounds like base-level
politics-as-usual to moi.

Max

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
Does everyone down under set his sights so low?


Nope, US republicans only.

Boring, Bubbles

Max

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OzOne wrote in message

On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 04:45:15 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:

While true--and I generally subscribe to that philosophy--I'd rather find
someone with substance and integrity. Of course I'm dreaming where
politics
are concerned.

So you don't regard a man who can stand up and admit he got it wrong
as having substance and integrity?

Depends. If he admits he was in error because he WAS in error, perhaps.
But if he changes his tune only to take the opposition to the incumbent,
then he's little more than a political hack. Joe Lieberman did exactly this
in the 2000 election. He had always been pro-life, but to be on the ticket
with Al Gore he had to flip-flop to pro-choice. Now he's back to pro-life
again. Political hack.


BTW has GWB acknowledged yet that there never were WMD in Iraq at the
time he was planning his invasion (after he was elected that is)

Does this assume that he wasn't planning to invade Iraq prior to the
election? I think it was high on his list if elected.

or
that he and his Govt were wrong in assuming that Iraq posed an threat
to the US, or has he just changed the story to one of saving the
people of Iraq?

Not that I've heard. I bought his pre-war rhetoric, but I also said I'd
curtail my support of him if he were wrong about WMDs. He was wrong, I feel
cheated, and he won't get my vote this November.

Max

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"DSK" wrote in message

Maxprop wrote:
Actually I wasn't. Reagan's physicians all concluded that he was
suffering
an unspecified age-related dementia while still in the White House. The
actual term, Alzheimer's, didn't come until later, but he and his
doctors
knew he was ill before the term was applied to his case.

It's possible that Reagan's doctors noticed that he had problems in this
area while he was still in office, after all he perceived reality in a
different way all his life. But he wasn't diagnosed with Alzheimer's
until six years after he was out of office. That's a long gap for a
diagnosis.

You may recall, Doug, that Alzheimer's wasn't exactly a household term
during Reagan's terms. The preponderant body of knowledge concerning it was
amassed during the Nineties, including diagnostic tools and techniques.
Further it's not uncommon for such diagnoses to be made years or even a
decade following the onset of Sx.

Max

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Beside you?

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
He wasn't better than Clinton, but he was a decent pres. I didn't
like a lot of his social policies,

as did most other gays.

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"Maxprop" wrote

Boring, Bubbles


that's redundant.

One last one for the Gipper
 

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 17:43:48 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Beside you?


Are you finally coming out of the closet?



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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote ...
He wasn't better than Clinton, but he was a decent pres. I didn't
like a lot of his social policies,

as did most other gays.



Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

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Hahahaha... no thanks... I prefer real women.

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 06:00:27 -0400, Horvath
scribbled thusly:

On Wed, 9 Jun 2004 17:43:48 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Beside you?


Are you finally coming out of the closet?

Nah, he just wants to feel your tits.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.