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Bobsprit May 22nd 04 04:56 AM

Planing Dinghy
 
I hooked up my new 5hp outboard to the Quicksilver Dinghy. The dinghy is 9'10.
I was told it would probably not plane with less than 7hp...or perhaps that's
for a smaller LOA. Anyway...it planes very nicely, especially if I keep my
weight forward a bit. No way it'll plane with another person though.

RB

EdGordonRN May 22nd 04 01:12 PM

Planing Dinghy
 
I hooked up my new 5hp outboard to the Quicksilver Dinghy. The dinghy is
9'10.


I guess you must have been bored, because why would you put a motor on sailboat
that size? Or am I wrong in assuming it's even a sailboat?

katysails May 22nd 04 01:29 PM

Planing Dinghy
 
Or am I wrong in assuming it's even a sailboat?

Yes...it's an inflatable like a Zodiac

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



EdGordonRN May 22nd 04 02:24 PM

Planing Dinghy
 

Yes...it's an inflatable like a Zodiac


Oh.

Capt. Mooron May 24th 04 03:55 AM

Planing Dinghy
 
you won't get it on step with a 5 hp kicker

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| I hooked up my new 5hp outboard to the Quicksilver Dinghy. The dinghy is
9'10.
| I was told it would probably not plane with less than 7hp...or perhaps
that's
| for a smaller LOA. Anyway...it planes very nicely, especially if I keep
my
| weight forward a bit. No way it'll plane with another person though.
|
| RB



Bobsprit May 24th 04 04:38 AM

Planing Dinghy
 
you won't get it on step with a 5 hp kicker

What???


RB

Capt. Mooron May 24th 04 12:07 PM

Planing Dinghy
 
You heard me Bob..... a 5 hp won't put that rubber dinghy on step... you
won't get hole shot... or it'll take you 3 football fields to do it.
Especially at your current weight.

The minimum you'll need is an 8 hp or a 9.9hp.

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| you won't get it on step with a 5 hp kicker
|
| What???
|
|
| RB



Bobsprit May 24th 04 12:37 PM

Planing Dinghy
 
You heard me Bob..... a 5 hp won't put that rubber dinghy on step... you
won't get hole shot... or it'll take you 3 football fields to do it.
Especially at your current weight.

I'll bet you ANY amount of money that you're wrong. The Quicksilver 300 is 9.10
and will plave with me in it with the 5HP. It would not do it with a smaller
inflatable I suspect. It just makes 14 knots on flat water. More like 10 or 11
typically.
This is a great chance to see what you know, Mooron. Let's set up a good bet
and I'll have Suzanne snap the pics.
I honestly did not expect it to plane with less than 7 hp. At full throttle it
takes about 10 seconds and leaning forward helps. Once I'm out of the hole I
can back off the throttle a bit, but not much.

RB

Capt. Mooron May 24th 04 01:57 PM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
Well Bob.... I have seen dinghies 'plane' with a 5hp... with lighter crew,
but not before you lean well to the front and only in the calmest water
after a very long straight run and only barely up on step.... pushing more
water than planing on it.... and they won't do it with 2 people on board.
Either way to call that planing is a stretch. My 9.9hp on a 10ft Zodiac will
get hole shot in 10 feet.... and tops at 20 knots.... that's planing Bob...
that's up on step.... and it will do it in 15 feet with 2 people or twenty
feet with 4 people.

Take the picture and prove me wrong..... I don't bet online, and when
someone has to resort to a bet to prove the point it's already a lost cause
on their part. I'm callin' ya on this one.

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| You heard me Bob..... a 5 hp won't put that rubber dinghy on step... you
| won't get hole shot... or it'll take you 3 football fields to do it.
| Especially at your current weight.
|
| I'll bet you ANY amount of money that you're wrong. The Quicksilver 300 is
9.10
| and will plave with me in it with the 5HP. It would not do it with a
smaller
| inflatable I suspect. It just makes 14 knots on flat water. More like 10
or 11
| typically.
| This is a great chance to see what you know, Mooron. Let's set up a good
bet
| and I'll have Suzanne snap the pics.
| I honestly did not expect it to plane with less than 7 hp. At full
throttle it
| takes about 10 seconds and leaning forward helps. Once I'm out of the hole
I
| can back off the throttle a bit, but not much.
|
| RB



Bobsprit May 24th 04 02:19 PM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
Well Bob.... I have seen dinghies 'plane' with a 5hp... with lighter crew,
but not before you lean well to the front and only in the calmest water
after a very long straight run and only barely up on step.... pushing more
water than planing on it.... and they won't do it with 2 people on board.

With anyone else on board, it won't plane. Tried it. But in calm water I made
13.9 knots and tapped 14. Running her disp. she'll only do 5 or 6, then slowly
lifts up and starts skating. The motor was a freebee, so I'm not complaining. I
asked a few people and they said it would never happen, except the 300 is
fairly long with an inflatable keel.
I WILL snap a pic of it this week.

RB

Capt. Mooron May 24th 04 02:33 PM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
I won't be back till next week to see it..... and I'm not dissin' your
set-up.... just the fact that a 9 foot inflatable will plane with a load
like that being pushed by a 5hp.

My favourite set-up was a 15hp Merc with an 8hp cowling and decal on the
kicker... mounted on a 7.5 ft inflatable. Now that will plane!!! Hole shot
was immediate. Looked for all intents and purposes like an 8hp..... man did
that get attention when I lit it up. 30 knots is way too fast on a 7.5'
inflatable.... even standing up with the kill switch rigged.

I could only take one person to shore at a time.... but did multiple trips
in a very short time.

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| Well Bob.... I have seen dinghies 'plane' with a 5hp... with lighter
crew,
| but not before you lean well to the front and only in the calmest water
| after a very long straight run and only barely up on step.... pushing more
| water than planing on it.... and they won't do it with 2 people on
board.
|
| With anyone else on board, it won't plane. Tried it. But in calm water I
made
| 13.9 knots and tapped 14. Running her disp. she'll only do 5 or 6, then
slowly
| lifts up and starts skating. The motor was a freebee, so I'm not
complaining. I
| asked a few people and they said it would never happen, except the 300 is
| fairly long with an inflatable keel.
| I WILL snap a pic of it this week.
|
| RB



Bobsprit May 24th 04 02:46 PM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
just the fact that a 9 foot inflatable will plane with a load
like that being pushed by a 5hp.

You're right on that...the 5HP works too hard. The 5hp is pretty light to
carry. Ideally I wanted a little 3.5, even though that wouldn't plane at all.
Main problem is....I have little room on my rail for the motor. It'll have to
go in the sail locker.

RB

Bobsprit May 24th 04 02:46 PM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
I could only take one person to shore at a time.... but did multiple trips
in a very short time.

And I bet each trip was fun!


RB

Thom Stewart May 24th 04 05:26 PM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
MC,

Your bet is pretty safe. I haven't seen many inflatables built with a
"Step"
I've seen many on Plane but none on "Step"

Do you mean a single step or three point step?

OT


Navigator May 25th 04 02:23 AM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
My Rhib planes with just me aboard with 5HP no problem. I'm 6'4" and
weigh 210.

Cheers



Capt. Mooron wrote:
Well Bob.... I have seen dinghies 'plane' with a 5hp... with lighter crew,
but not before you lean well to the front and only in the calmest water
after a very long straight run and only barely up on step.... pushing more
water than planing on it.... and they won't do it with 2 people on board.
Either way to call that planing is a stretch. My 9.9hp on a 10ft Zodiac will
get hole shot in 10 feet.... and tops at 20 knots.... that's planing Bob...
that's up on step.... and it will do it in 15 feet with 2 people or twenty
feet with 4 people.

Take the picture and prove me wrong..... I don't bet online, and when
someone has to resort to a bet to prove the point it's already a lost cause
on their part. I'm callin' ya on this one.

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| You heard me Bob..... a 5 hp won't put that rubber dinghy on step... you
| won't get hole shot... or it'll take you 3 football fields to do it.
| Especially at your current weight.
|
| I'll bet you ANY amount of money that you're wrong. The Quicksilver 300 is
9.10
| and will plave with me in it with the 5HP. It would not do it with a
smaller
| inflatable I suspect. It just makes 14 knots on flat water. More like 10
or 11
| typically.
| This is a great chance to see what you know, Mooron. Let's set up a good
bet
| and I'll have Suzanne snap the pics.
| I honestly did not expect it to plane with less than 7 hp. At full
throttle it
| takes about 10 seconds and leaning forward helps. Once I'm out of the hole
I
| can back off the throttle a bit, but not much.
|
| RB




Seahag May 25th 04 03:13 AM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
Lucky you, my dinghy never plans anything.

Seahag

"Navigator" wrote in message
...
My Rhib planes with just me aboard with 5HP no problem. I'm 6'4" and
weigh 210.

Cheers



Capt. Mooron wrote:
Well Bob.... I have seen dinghies 'plane' with a 5hp... with lighter

crew,
but not before you lean well to the front and only in the calmest water
after a very long straight run and only barely up on step.... pushing

more
water than planing on it.... and they won't do it with 2 people on

board.
Either way to call that planing is a stretch. My 9.9hp on a 10ft Zodiac

will
get hole shot in 10 feet.... and tops at 20 knots.... that's planing

Bob...
that's up on step.... and it will do it in 15 feet with 2 people or

twenty
feet with 4 people.

Take the picture and prove me wrong..... I don't bet online, and when
someone has to resort to a bet to prove the point it's already a lost

cause
on their part. I'm callin' ya on this one.

CM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| You heard me Bob..... a 5 hp won't put that rubber dinghy on step...

you
| won't get hole shot... or it'll take you 3 football fields to do it.
| Especially at your current weight.
|
| I'll bet you ANY amount of money that you're wrong. The Quicksilver

300 is
9.10
| and will plave with me in it with the 5HP. It would not do it with a
smaller
| inflatable I suspect. It just makes 14 knots on flat water. More like

10
or 11
| typically.
| This is a great chance to see what you know, Mooron. Let's set up a

good
bet
| and I'll have Suzanne snap the pics.
| I honestly did not expect it to plane with less than 7 hp. At full
throttle it
| takes about 10 seconds and leaning forward helps. Once I'm out of the

hole
I
| can back off the throttle a bit, but not much.
|
| RB






katysails May 25th 04 03:49 AM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
Haggie commented: Lucky you, my dinghy never plans anything.

Hah! Mine plans to dump me in the drink every time I get into her...she's a
very tipply dinghy....

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Navigator May 25th 04 10:53 PM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
Try stepping onto the centerline...

Cheers

katysails wrote:
Haggie commented: Lucky you, my dinghy never plans anything.

Hah! Mine plans to dump me in the drink every time I get into her...she's a
very tipply dinghy....



katysails May 26th 04 02:14 AM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
MC, having a very blond moment, suggested:
Try stepping onto the centerline...

Well, duh....if you didn't on this dinghy you would end up very wet for
sure....even stepping on the centerline makes the thing skate out from under
you....heck, the thing weighs less than 75 lbs all told and has very little
freeboard to speak of....like stepping onto a concave surfboard with
seats...
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Navigator May 26th 04 04:04 AM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
Perhaps you would like to try standing on a sinker? Bend your knees...

Cheers

katysails wrote:

MC, having a very blond moment, suggested:
Try stepping onto the centerline...

Well, duh....if you didn't on this dinghy you would end up very wet for
sure....even stepping on the centerline makes the thing skate out from under
you....heck, the thing weighs less than 75 lbs all told and has very little
freeboard to speak of....like stepping onto a concave surfboard with
seats...



katysails May 26th 04 11:47 AM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
MC suggested: Perhaps you would like to try standing on a sinker? Bend your
knees...

And how does one attach it to the boarding ladder on the boat? I have an
idea..you come here and we'll watch you put all your tall old self in the
lake and then maybe you'll come up with some more ideas...

--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Joe May 26th 04 04:50 PM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
"katysails" wrote in message ...
Haggie commented: Lucky you, my dinghy never plans anything.

Hah! Mine plans to dump me in the drink every time I get into her...she's a
very tipply dinghy....


What do you have a fatty knees? My neighbors have one and its the
tippiest dink Ive ever been on

Joe

katysails May 26th 04 10:56 PM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
Joe asked:
What do you have a fatty knees?
No, but it resembles one....
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



Capt. Mooron May 29th 04 04:25 AM

Planing Dinghy - I doubt it!
 
Sure... an RIB... that I can believe! ... as well as the fact you weigh
210 at 5"8"! ;-0

CM

"Navigator" wrote in message
...
| My Rhib planes with just me aboard with 5HP no problem. I'm 6'4" and
| weigh 210.




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