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Martin Baxter wrote:
I think Maxprop should come to Canada: Conservative and Liberal are relative terms, by our standards the far left of the 'mercan political spectrum are right wing whackos, conversely by your standards, our Conservatives are Pinkos! Well, it's a socialist country, isn't it? But you wait, the merchandising of politics, including the hard-sell of certain ideologies as a lifestyle package, will come your way too. Right now it looks to me like both the major U.S. political parties have forgotten what it's all about. They are both frantically trying to raise money, and spending their funds on ads intended to "energize their base." What they need to do is convince people to vote for them... kind of an old fashioned notion, don't you think? They say everything comes back in style if you wait long enough. Regards Doug King |
Bye Bye Bushy!!!
Right now it looks to me like both the major U.S. political parties have forgotten what it's all about. They are both frantically trying to raise money, and spending their funds on ads intended to "energize their base." What they need to do is convince people to vote for them... kind of an old fashioned notion, don't you think? Uh, Doug, they mean the same thing. |
Bye Bye Bushy!!!
"Maxprop" wrote in message hlink.net...
"Marty Feldman" wrote in message om... "Maxprop" wrote in message hlink.net... The reason I'm bitching about him is that I really dislike Bush/Cheney and wanted another ticket for whom to vote. Kerry is a disappointment and Nader is unelectable. John McCain could have been promising, but his party's nomination is locked up. I'd have supported Lieberman or perhaps even Gephardt, but Kerry is simply too far left and inconsistent to warrant my vote. My 2 cents worth. Max i've tried to stay away from these kind of issues because 1) it doesn't interest me, and 2) i don't think it makes a significant difference. that said, within max's words of delusion, we have what i believe is the best way of approaching the nader and veep issues: 1) nader is a fact. that means we've got to deal with him. maybe a deal like this: dems will stop bashing him, if he takes more conservative positions, and aims his message to as many disenfranchised conservatives as possible. 2) nader is a kook more interested in himself than his country. so, don't listen to him about the edwards recommendation. instead, look at what maxi pad said above, he didn't even mention edwards but did mention gephardt. gephardt will be a far better fighter against cheney in the debates (good for conservatives), and far more capable in getting health care passed through congress (good for dems). also, gephardt is just plain tougher than most, and will have broader appeal to recovering republicans. with a kerry/gephardt combo, they will not convert conservatives to the dem party, but these two just might convince them to stay at home and THAT is the way to win this election. (...along with gotv. :) Talk about delusion . . . Terry McAuliffe really isn't interested in hearing from you, sock puppet. Max if he were smart, he wouldn't touch me with a 10 foot pole. ok, people, listen up. unlike nader voters, we've got to think more strategically. yes, the amount of conservatives willing to vote nader is something approaching zero, regardless of what nader says or does. but if we had nader aiming for conservatives, his flock just might be bewildered and disenchanted enough to go for dems. there's little way dems can peel off nader votes, the best way is for nader to do that for us. are we clear on this now? little chance of nader playing along, but it was worth a shot. that is, until alterman and stewart decided to vent in public. sigh... i tell ya... |
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"DSK" wrote in message Maxprop wrote: Only that Doug claims to be conservative, but he isn't. If you think that I am "a liberal," then it shows your lack of perception & intelligence. On the contrary, I think it simply shows you are like Cleopatra: Queen of Denial. I suggest you check a list of the fundamental axioms of conservatism and liberalism, apparently you don't know what they are. Political persuasions are hardly axiomatic. However I find it predictable that you can't deal with anything that isn't printed on white paper and bound with leather. Ever have an original thought, Doug? But that's OK many people have faith in things they don't understand. Many people are even more comfortable remaining ignorant. Just as some are content to bathe themselves in delusion. It's really okay, Doug. Being a liberal isn't a crime, and you're entitled to your opinions. But calling a pig a poodle doesn't mean you can show it at the Westminster. Max |
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"DSK" wrote in message Martin Baxter wrote: I think Maxprop should come to Canada: Conservative and Liberal are relative terms, by our standards the far left of the 'mercan political spectrum are right wing whackos, conversely by your standards, our Conservatives are Pinkos! Well, it's a socialist country, isn't it? But you wait, the merchandising of politics, including the hard-sell of certain ideologies as a lifestyle package, will come your way too. Right now it looks to me like both the major U.S. political parties have forgotten what it's all about. They are both frantically trying to raise money, and spending their funds on ads intended to "energize their base." What they need to do is convince people to vote for them... kind of an old fashioned notion, don't you think? They say everything comes back in style if you wait long enough. Not a chance. Politics here is what it is, and the concept will only exacerbate, thanks to the various media. My grandfather said much the same thing as you did (above). Max |
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