Antifreeze Type?
 

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
I'm in the middle of changing the antifreeze in my Yanmar 2GM20FC engines
and am
curious if I should change type.

I've been using Ethylene Glycol, following the advice of a Yanmar mechanic
who
said using Propylene Glycol would void my warranty. I've never been able
to
verify that, and I'm now long out of warranty so I'm wondering if its time
to
switch to the more environmentally friendly Propylene. I also think that
using
the easy to dispose propylene would encourage me to change more
frequently.

Secondly, if I do change, do I have to flush out all of the old, or is it
sufficient to just drain it?

Do you have an owner's manual for the engine? It would probably tell you.
Failing that, contact a local Yanmar dealer. Mechanics are a frequent
source of misinformation.
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Antifreeze Type?
 

I'm in the middle of changing the antifreeze in my Yanmar 2GM20FC engines and am
curious if I should change type.

I've been using Ethylene Glycol, following the advice of a Yanmar mechanic who
said using Propylene Glycol would void my warranty. I've never been able to
verify that, and I'm now long out of warranty so I'm wondering if its time to
switch to the more environmentally friendly Propylene. I also think that using
the easy to dispose propylene would encourage me to change more frequently.

Secondly, if I do change, do I have to flush out all of the old, or is it
sufficient to just drain it?

TIA, Jeff

Antifreeze Type?
 

I don't know how color relates to chemicals - but a friend recently
bought a sailboat - turned out it had cooling problems that the test
runs didn't point out. It had green antifreeze in it. A lady capt down
the dock said you should only put orange antifreeze in marine diesels
otherwise they develop cooling problems from some silicate ?
pebbles/granules that develop in the coolant - so he drained it and
flushed it and sure enough there were handfuls of sand-pebbles
clogging it up. So I learned to use orange antifreeze - what do the
colors mean??


On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:11:48 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

I'm in the middle of changing the antifreeze in my Yanmar 2GM20FC engines and am
curious if I should change type.

I've been using Ethylene Glycol, following the advice of a Yanmar mechanic who
said using Propylene Glycol would void my warranty. I've never been able to
verify that, and I'm now long out of warranty so I'm wondering if its time to
switch to the more environmentally friendly Propylene. I also think that using
the easy to dispose propylene would encourage me to change more frequently.

Secondly, if I do change, do I have to flush out all of the old, or is it
sufficient to just drain it?

TIA, Jeff

Antifreeze Type?
 

Dont kinow about the color .

The pebbles and sand are calcium carbonate that 'precipitate' out of
the water when it touches the hot engine metal. Use distilled or
demineralized water to prevent this. Doesnt matter what color the
antifreeze is, if the water get super hot - out come the carbonates!
..... called boiler scale!


In article , santacruz
wrote:

I don't know how color relates to chemicals - but a friend recently
bought a sailboat - turned out it had cooling problems that the test
runs didn't point out. It had green antifreeze in it. A lady capt down
the dock said you should only put orange antifreeze in marine diesels
otherwise they develop cooling problems from some silicate ?
pebbles/granules that develop in the coolant - so he drained it and
flushed it and sure enough there were handfuls of sand-pebbles
clogging it up. So I learned to use orange antifreeze - what do the
colors mean??


On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:11:48 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

I'm in the middle of changing the antifreeze in my Yanmar 2GM20FC engines
and am
curious if I should change type.

I've been using Ethylene Glycol, following the advice of a Yanmar mechanic
who
said using Propylene Glycol would void my warranty. I've never been able to
verify that, and I'm now long out of warranty so I'm wondering if its time to
switch to the more environmentally friendly Propylene. I also think that
using
the easy to dispose propylene would encourage me to change more frequently.

Secondly, if I do change, do I have to flush out all of the old, or is it
sufficient to just drain it?

TIA, Jeff

Antifreeze Type?
 

MY water heater mfg. recommended using the nontoxic antifreeze. Got me
to thinking about the possibility of leaks. Since the engine is out of
warranty, its 6 of one and a 1/2 dozen of the other.


On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:11:48 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

I'm in the middle of changing the antifreeze in my Yanmar 2GM20FC engines and am
curious if I should change type.

I've been using Ethylene Glycol, following the advice of a Yanmar mechanic who
said using Propylene Glycol would void my warranty. I've never been able to
verify that, and I'm now long out of warranty so I'm wondering if its time to
switch to the more environmentally friendly Propylene. I also think that using
the easy to dispose propylene would encourage me to change more frequently.

Secondly, if I do change, do I have to flush out all of the old, or is it
sufficient to just drain it?

TIA, Jeff

Antifreeze Type?
 

Orange is the Dex-Cool type extended life antifreeze. That's what I use in
my Lehman diesel, and Bob Smith of American Diesel said that was fine. You
still need to change it out every 2-3 years. I flush mine when I do change
it.

Wet liner diesels need a special antifreeze or an additive to regular
antifreeze to stop those little microscopic bubbles from eating away at the
liner.

--


Keith
__
What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant?
"santacruz" wrote in message
...
I don't know how color relates to chemicals - but a friend recently
bought a sailboat - turned out it had cooling problems that the test
runs didn't point out. It had green antifreeze in it. A lady capt down
the dock said you should only put orange antifreeze in marine diesels
otherwise they develop cooling problems from some silicate ?
pebbles/granules that develop in the coolant - so he drained it and
flushed it and sure enough there were handfuls of sand-pebbles
clogging it up. So I learned to use orange antifreeze - what do the
colors mean??


On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:11:48 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

I'm in the middle of changing the antifreeze in my Yanmar 2GM20FC engines
and am
curious if I should change type.

I've been using Ethylene Glycol, following the advice of a Yanmar
mechanic who
said using Propylene Glycol would void my warranty. I've never been
able to
verify that, and I'm now long out of warranty so I'm wondering if its
time to
switch to the more environmentally friendly Propylene. I also think that
using
the easy to dispose propylene would encourage me to change more
frequently.

Secondly, if I do change, do I have to flush out all of the old, or is it
sufficient to just drain it?

TIA, Jeff

Antifreeze Type?
 

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 20:11:48 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

I'm in the middle of changing the antifreeze in my Yanmar 2GM20FC engines and am
curious if I should change type.

I've been using Ethylene Glycol, following the advice of a Yanmar mechanic who
said using Propylene Glycol would void my warranty. I've never been able to
verify that, and I'm now long out of warranty so I'm wondering if its time to
switch to the more environmentally friendly Propylene. I also think that using
the easy to dispose propylene would encourage me to change more frequently.

Secondly, if I do change, do I have to flush out all of the old, or is it
sufficient to just drain it?

TIA, Jeff

I'm curious, my Yanmar manual says to use water. My boat came with the
orange/pink antifreeze, though. I'm not in an area where freezing is a
risk so I have added occasional water. Gotta find that leak....

Antifreeze Type?
 

Even worse are those that claim to be 'engineers' (with no
qualifications to back the claim up) and who claim to be successful at
'fixing' things...

Cheers

Evan Gatehouse wrote:



Do you have an owner's manual for the engine? It would probably tell you.
Failing that, contact a local Yanmar dealer. Mechanics are a frequent
source of misinformation.

Antifreeze Type?
 

In terms of freeze protection propylene glycol would work just as well, in
fact better, than ethylene glycol if mixed in the proper proportion. The
"problem" with the pink propylene glycol is that it does not contain
anti-corrosion / anti-scaling additives that the green ethylene glycol does.
If you could find propylene glycol that was specifically formulated for use
in engines it would probably be OK. Most is sold for freeze protection in
RV and cottage water systems where its non-toxic property is needed.
As for changing antifreeze, the glycol does not degrade, it is the additives
which are used up over time. You can confirm this by having the freeze
point of your cooling system checked. If you constantly add water you will
eventually dilute the glycol too much and then it would need a change. The
additives would also be diluted this way. I imagine the long-life
antifreeze has more additive or a more stable type but if you frequently add
water you may negate this advantage.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
I'm in the middle of changing the antifreeze in my Yanmar 2GM20FC engines
and am
curious if I should change type.

I've been using Ethylene Glycol, following the advice of a Yanmar mechanic
who
said using Propylene Glycol would void my warranty. I've never been able
to
verify that, and I'm now long out of warranty so I'm wondering if its time
to
switch to the more environmentally friendly Propylene. I also think that
using
the easy to dispose propylene would encourage me to change more
frequently.

Secondly, if I do change, do I have to flush out all of the old, or is it
sufficient to just drain it?

TIA, Jeff