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felton April 21st 04 05:11 AM

Ignore the aesthetics, can it sail, and...WILL it be sailed?
 
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 21:00:02 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:



felton wrote:
On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 22:58:22 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:



felton wrote:



I'm not sure who originated this, but it strikes a chord of
truthfulness with me. In fairness to Jim, though, if my dominant
criteria for selecting a boat were the ability to motor swiftly in
water less than 2' deep, well...I guess I would be depressed, but I
still wouldn't pick a Mac. He should have just gone ahead and bought
a pontoon motor boat with a grill on the back.


You have it bass-ass backwards. The Mac 26M has the ability to quickly
motor out to the best sailing waters. The motor is a means of getting
better sailing in an afternoon,or a weekend, rather than a week.

Jim



You are obviously unconcerned with the poor sailing characteristics,
the "build quality" and the aesthetics of the boat. You seem
entranced by the "advantages" of the Mac 26MX, as you perceive them.
Suffice it to say that the vast majority of sailors, as evidenced by
this newsgroup, don't share your priorities. A sailor would rather
sail than motor. There is nothing quite like sailing a well tuned
boat to weather with the helm balanced and the sails well trimmed.
That is something that can't be experienced on a Mac 26MX. If you are
in a hurry to get somewhere, then sailing is probably a poor choice of
transportation. If you want to "sail", then a Mac 26MX is a poor
choice of a boat.

I didn't choose the Mac 26M because I prefer motoring over sailing. And,
from 25 years of sailing experience on many types of boats, I think that
I have an understanding of the pleasure of sailing a well-balanced boat
having good pointing ability. - That's why I chose the Mac 26M.

Regarding the fact that "People around here don't share my views," none
of the "People around here" have sailed the 26M, and few have even
spoken with anyone who has.

The "uninformed" sailors are, therefore, the "People around here."

Jim


I don't believe you have sailed one either. Have you sailed the 26X?
Why don't you save your defense of the Mac until you have sailed one.

felton April 21st 04 05:13 AM

Ignore the aesthetics, can it sail, and...WILL it be sailed?
 
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:35:17 -0400, "Seahag"
wrote:


"felton" wrote:

"The most dangerous words in sailing are a lot of boat for the
money.":)
I'm not sure who originated this, but it strikes a chord of
truthfulness with me.


Ummmm, brokers??????


Almost anything a broker says is likely to be dangerous:) Almost
anything a Mac dealer says is likely to be humorous:)


Flying Tadpole April 21st 04 05:15 AM

Ignore the aesthetics, can it sail, and...WILL it be sailed?
 


Seahag wrote:

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
One thing that's really neat about a Bolger boat, you can make your own
half-hull model by simply cutting a shoe box in half and gluing it to a

wall with squirty cheese.


Truly a way of handling a model that's pregnant with
possibilities...
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Flying Tadpole April 21st 04 05:21 AM

Ignore the aesthetics, can it sail, and...WILL it be sailed?
 


Seahag wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

You *are* one sweet talkin' man!


Ah, but it was Gilligan who was the master anaesthetist!

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Flying Tadpole April 21st 04 05:22 AM

Ignore the aesthetics, can it sail, and...WILL it be sailed?
 


felton wrote:

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 23:35:17 -0400, "Seahag"
wrote:


"felton" wrote:

"The most dangerous words in sailing are a lot of boat for the
money.":)
I'm not sure who originated this, but it strikes a chord of
truthfulness with me.


Ummmm, brokers??????


Almost anything a broker says is likely to be dangerous:) Almost
anything a Mac dealer says is likely to be humorous:)


And almost anything a Mac buyer says is likely to be...?

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Lady Pilot April 21st 04 07:24 AM

Ignore the aesthetics, can it sail, and...WILL it be sailed?
 
Oh my! You owe me a keyboard, Taddy!

LP


"Flying Tadpole" wrote in message
...
Ah well, we can't _all_be hobbits, you know...

Navigator wrote:

I'm not a compromise -I'm not Australian.

Cheers

Flying Tadpole wrote:


Navigator wrote:

It's alright Taddy, you don't need to justify your choice of boat. I
uderstand the compromises you live with.



Indeed, you're one of them.


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Lady Pilot April 21st 04 07:25 AM

Ignore the aesthetics, can it sail, and...WILL it be sailed?
 

"Seahag" wrote:

"Flying Tadpole" wrote:

Alas for human
frailty--I've found the newsgroup's cruel and harsh view of Macs
to be borne out in local practice.


You *are* one sweet talkin' man!


Yes, he is! I'll second that...

LP :-)



Jonathan Ganz April 21st 04 07:55 AM

Ignore the aesthetics, can it sail, and...WILL it be sailed?
 
So what you're saying is that you're a liar and a cheat. You already
have negative feedback on ebay, which proves the latter claim. Oh
yeah, you're going bald and are almost as ugly as MacBoy's Mac.
Therefore, YOU WIN!

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Gag Me with a fork...... Bob, I've seen you rip prospective Mac buyers

and
destroy current Mac owners on this group for years. You were much worse in
your attacks than anyone here to date!

I've spoken to Jim off-group and he made his decision on the Mac based on

his
specific requirements. He appears to understand what the limits are and
certainly knows he'll lose out when he sells. It's his money. The rest was

just
a world class beating that he administered to all of you. The hooks were

well
baited and you gorged yourselves, especially Ganz, who really got

played..Do
you expect me to do the same thing?
Nope.

RB




Jonathan Ganz April 21st 04 07:56 AM

Ignore the aesthetics, can it sail, and...WILL it be sailed?
 
Horass

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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
A beating he gave us? A what prize did he win?



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Gag Me with a fork...... Bob, I've seen you rip prospective Mac buyers

and
destroy current Mac owners on this group for years. You were much worse

in
your attacks than anyone here to date!

I've spoken to Jim off-group and he made his decision on the Mac based

on his
specific requirements. He appears to understand what the limits are and
certainly knows he'll lose out when he sells. It's his money. The rest

was
just
a world class beating that he administered to all of you. The hooks were

well
baited and you gorged yourselves, especially Ganz, who really got

played..Do
you expect me to do the same thing?
Nope.

RB






Jonathan Ganz April 21st 04 07:57 AM

Ignore the aesthetics, can it sail, and...WILL it be sailed?
 
The LIAR AND THIEF RETURNS. you win alright.

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I'll show Joe the purchase order for my boat verifying that I
placed the order on March 25. - We should be able to schedule this event
sometime in May.


Jim, good luck with the 26M. I hope it works out for you and meets and

even
exceeds your expectations. While some people here continue to troll,

others
will be interested to hear how such an odd vessel performs from an actual
owner.

RB





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