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Jim Cate April 22nd 04 03:53 AM

Shut them all up Jim Cate
 


Joe wrote:
Flying Tadpole wrote in message ...

How deep's the bay, Joe? Sounds like Lake Alexandrina on a late
afternoon in summer, tho' the waves collapse once they're over
five feet, and 30' of Lady Kate just reaches from crest 1 to
crest 3, with crest 2 in the middle. That's in 3-4m so 10-14 feet
(?)



About the same depth tad 8-14 feet we have to watch the board or we
leave a mud trail behind us. It's nice in the bay to have a boat
longer than the wave length. Jim's gonna get murdered in the bay if he
ever gets sideseas in a wicked front or squall. And Galveston Bay is
famous for its squall lines going thru like freight trains.

Joe


In the event of a squall coming so fast that I can't outrun it, I think
I'll put out a couple of anchors and douse the sails, go below, and
enjoy riding out the storm with a Margarita or two. Maybe take a nap.

Jim

Ji






Joe wrote:

Jim Cate wrote in message ...

Joe, could you give me a little information about your boat? What is the
length of the water line? Apparently it is a steel-hulled ketch of about
30-35 feet? It must be as fast as a bat out of hell in 30-knot winds.


38 at the waterline.

At 30 knots in the bay you will not be able to sail your Mac. Were
talking about 5 footers spaced about 10 to 20 feet apart. And you
will have so much windage I doubt you will be able to motor. And with
that flat bottom if your not swamped your crew will be violently
tossed over.

At 30 knots with one reef Im just getting up to hull speed and
crusing in comfort.

See you in May or June.

Joe


Jim



Joe wrote:


Jim Cate wrote in message ...



I'll be happy to come by and let you get some pictures and then race out
to redfish.


What about the water sking?

However, I would like a glass or two of Bordeau with my steak.

****, We will get a whole bottle since your going to be buying.



I should be on the water around May 10.


Great, Ill give you plenty of notice, Hopefully we can pick a day with a
nice breeze, 30+ knots or so, no were near 70, but still enough to get us moving.

Joe



Jim

Joe wrote:


When you get your boat swing by my marina. I would really be rateful
if you would pull me around the lake a few times on my ol Cypress
Garden Skis.

After that perhaps we can go out into the bay and race to redfish and
back
or something Ill bet you a Steak Dinner at the Aquarium that Redcloud
will win.

This way I can take pictures post them here and let all know that you
are not a trool, and that you are indeed just a lubber that bought a
bad boat.

Best Regards,
Joe
MSV RedCloud



Jonathan Ganz April 22nd 04 07:09 AM

Shut them all up Jim Cate
 
MacBoy, this is the most intelligent thing you've said so far.
Since the Mac will not be controllable during a squall, then
your only hope for survival would be to hunker down below.
I'm hopeful you won't wet your pants more than a couple of
times.

I wouldn't bother with the anchors, however, since you're
unlikely to be able to grab 100 miles offshore.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Joe wrote:
Flying Tadpole wrote in message

...
In the event of a squall coming so fast that I can't outrun it, I think
I'll put out a couple of anchors and douse the sails, go below, and
enjoy riding out the storm with a Margarita or two. Maybe take a nap.




Jim Cate April 22nd 04 02:34 PM

Shut them all up Jim Cate
 
Thanks for the complement, Johnathan. Regarding the anchors holding,
this particular conversation related to sailing in the Galveston bay
area, with typical depths of around 9 feet. Offshore I plan to take a
sea anchor.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

MacBoy, this is the most intelligent thing you've said so far.
Since the Mac will not be controllable during a squall, then
your only hope for survival would be to hunker down below.
I'm hopeful you won't wet your pants more than a couple of
times.

I wouldn't bother with the anchors, however, since you're
unlikely to be able to grab 100 miles offshore.



Joe April 22nd 04 02:58 PM

Shut them all up Jim Cate
 
Jim Cate wrote in message ...
Joe wrote:
Flying Tadpole wrote in message ...

How deep's the bay, Joe? Sounds like Lake Alexandrina on a late
afternoon in summer, tho' the waves collapse once they're over
five feet, and 30' of Lady Kate just reaches from crest 1 to
crest 3, with crest 2 in the middle. That's in 3-4m so 10-14 feet
(?)



About the same depth tad 8-14 feet we have to watch the board or we
leave a mud trail behind us. It's nice in the bay to have a boat
longer than the wave length. Jim's gonna get murdered in the bay if he
ever gets sideseas in a wicked front or squall. And Galveston Bay is
famous for its squall lines going thru like freight trains.

Joe


In the event of a squall coming so fast that I can't outrun it,


Jim unless you can do 25-30 knots you will not be able to outrun one.

Did you watch the races last night?
The wind was kickin huh, did you see the J with the carbon sails?
I always root for Slippery when Wet or the hooters boat.
If you are really a person from the area you will know who sponsers the race
and where it is. Who and where Jim?


I think
I'll put out a couple of anchors and douse the sails, go below, and
enjoy riding out the storm with a Margarita or two. Maybe take a nap.


Take a nap, yeah right.

First off most pass within 5-10 min.
They are so intence you will not sleep.

Are you sure your from the Kemah area?

Joe




Jim

Ji






Joe wrote:

Jim Cate wrote in message ...

Joe, could you give me a little information about your boat? What is the
length of the water line? Apparently it is a steel-hulled ketch of about
30-35 feet? It must be as fast as a bat out of hell in 30-knot winds.


38 at the waterline.

At 30 knots in the bay you will not be able to sail your Mac. Were
talking about 5 footers spaced about 10 to 20 feet apart. And you
will have so much windage I doubt you will be able to motor. And with
that flat bottom if your not swamped your crew will be violently
tossed over.

At 30 knots with one reef Im just getting up to hull speed and
crusing in comfort.

See you in May or June.

Joe


Jim



Joe wrote:


Jim Cate wrote in message ...



I'll be happy to come by and let you get some pictures and then race out
to redfish.


What about the water sking?

However, I would like a glass or two of Bordeau with my steak.

****, We will get a whole bottle since your going to be buying.



I should be on the water around May 10.


Great, Ill give you plenty of notice, Hopefully we can pick a day with a
nice breeze, 30+ knots or so, no were near 70, but still enough to get us moving.

Joe



Jim

Joe wrote:


When you get your boat swing by my marina. I would really be rateful
if you would pull me around the lake a few times on my ol Cypress
Garden Skis.

After that perhaps we can go out into the bay and race to redfish and
back
or something Ill bet you a Steak Dinner at the Aquarium that Redcloud
will win.

This way I can take pictures post them here and let all know that you
are not a trool, and that you are indeed just a lubber that bought a
bad boat.

Best Regards,
Joe
MSV RedCloud


Capt. Mooron April 22nd 04 05:11 PM

Shut them all up Jim Cate
 

"Jim Cate" wrote in message

| In the event of a squall coming so fast that I can't outrun it, I think
| I'll put out a couple of anchors and douse the sails, go below, and
| enjoy riding out the storm with a Margarita or two. Maybe take a nap.

Advise :

1-Wear a bib and put the Margaritas in spill proof cups
2-Strap yourself in with a four point harness
3-Don't lay down in the forward berth for your nap
4-Keep the life jacket and flares real handy

CM



felton April 22nd 04 05:59 PM

Shut them all up Jim Cate
 
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:11:25 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:


"Jim Cate" wrote in message

| In the event of a squall coming so fast that I can't outrun it, I think
| I'll put out a couple of anchors and douse the sails, go below, and
| enjoy riding out the storm with a Margarita or two. Maybe take a nap.

Advise :

1-Wear a bib and put the Margaritas in spill proof cups
2-Strap yourself in with a four point harness
3-Don't lay down in the forward berth for your nap
4-Keep the life jacket and flares real handy

CM


Well, Jim is a Texan. Hopefully he has some rodeo experience,
although I must admit wondering if there is a cleat anywhere on that
boat that would hold the boat to anchor in a storm.



Jonathan Ganz April 22nd 04 07:27 PM

Shut them all up Jim Cate
 
A sea anchor as opposed to a desk anchor?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the complement, Johnathan. Regarding the anchors holding,
this particular conversation related to sailing in the Galveston bay
area, with typical depths of around 9 feet. Offshore I plan to take a
sea anchor.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

MacBoy, this is the most intelligent thing you've said so far.
Since the Mac will not be controllable during a squall, then
your only hope for survival would be to hunker down below.
I'm hopeful you won't wet your pants more than a couple of
times.

I wouldn't bother with the anchors, however, since you're
unlikely to be able to grab 100 miles offshore.





Jonathan Ganz April 22nd 04 09:29 PM

Shut them all up Jim Cate
 
My mistake... a chrome anchor.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
A sea anchor as opposed to a desk anchor?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the complement, Johnathan. Regarding the anchors holding,
this particular conversation related to sailing in the Galveston bay
area, with typical depths of around 9 feet. Offshore I plan to take a
sea anchor.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

MacBoy, this is the most intelligent thing you've said so far.
Since the Mac will not be controllable during a squall, then
your only hope for survival would be to hunker down below.
I'm hopeful you won't wet your pants more than a couple of
times.

I wouldn't bother with the anchors, however, since you're
unlikely to be able to grab 100 miles offshore.








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