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I was a 26 M owner
Hi all. I owned a Mac26M for 3 weeks. I couldn't stand the thing. It
was horrible. I live near Philly and bought the Mac from A1 sailboats in MD. They are nice folks and I have no qualms with them. But the boat itself was God awfull. Wouldn't plane, and I had a Merc Big Foot 50 , steered horrible under power. Can't sail worth a damn. Won't point at all. Wallows dangerously downwind and is slow slow SLOW to boot. I took it back to the dealer and because of a paper screw up I was reimbursed 98% of my money. I am now trying to decide weather to buy a real sailboat and a jetski or a power boat and a small sailing skiff. I will be moving to the Annapolis area come July. BM |
I was a 26 M owner
Shhh... don't tell MacBoy.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Bob Miller" wrote in message om... Hi all. I owned a Mac26M for 3 weeks. I couldn't stand the thing. It was horrible. I live near Philly and bought the Mac from A1 sailboats in MD. They are nice folks and I have no qualms with them. But the boat itself was God awfull. Wouldn't plane, and I had a Merc Big Foot 50 , steered horrible under power. Can't sail worth a damn. Won't point at all. Wallows dangerously downwind and is slow slow SLOW to boot. I took it back to the dealer and because of a paper screw up I was reimbursed 98% of my money. I am now trying to decide weather to buy a real sailboat and a jetski or a power boat and a small sailing skiff. I will be moving to the Annapolis area come July. BM |
I was a 26 M owner
Bob Miller wrote: Hi all. I owned a Mac26M for 3 weeks. I couldn't stand the thing. It was horrible. I live near Philly and bought the Mac from A1 sailboats in MD. They are nice folks and I have no qualms with them. But the boat itself was God awfull. Wouldn't plane, and I had a Merc Big Foot 50 , steered horrible under power. Can't sail worth a damn. Won't point at all. Wallows dangerously downwind and is slow slow SLOW to boot. I took it back to the dealer and because of a paper screw up I was reimbursed 98% of my money. I am now trying to decide weather to buy a real sailboat and a jetski or a power boat and a small sailing skiff. I will be moving to the Annapolis area come July. BM This is obviously a troll. In the first place, an experienced sailor like yourself, indoctrinated with the ng propaganda against the Macs, would never have bought one in the first place. In the second place, you are obviously puttin us on, because the Mac26M clearly doesn't have any of the characteristics you claim for it. It planes easily, points high, and is fast, fast, fast. Try to think of something else, Bobby. Jim |
I was a 26 M owner
You are an experienced blue water sailor; you owned a Tartan 37 for
several years and sailed in high-traffic waters around NJ and NY; you participate in PHRF races; you are a long-time participant on this ng, during which time you providee advice to novice sailors as to how to sail, rig, and maintain their boats....and you expect us to believe your ridiculous story about buying a Mac 26M? Give us a break. Jim Bob Miller wrote: Hi all. I owned a Mac26M for 3 weeks. I couldn't stand the thing. It was horrible. I live near Philly and bought the Mac from A1 sailboats in MD. They are nice folks and I have no qualms with them. But the boat itself was God awfull. Wouldn't plane, and I had a Merc Big Foot 50 , steered horrible under power. Can't sail worth a damn. Won't point at all. Wallows dangerously downwind and is slow slow SLOW to boot. I took it back to the dealer and because of a paper screw up I was reimbursed 98% of my money. I am now trying to decide weather to buy a real sailboat and a jetski or a power boat and a small sailing skiff. I will be moving to the Annapolis area come July. BM |
I was a 26 M owner
does anybody know who he's talking about?
does he? Scotty "Jim Cate" wrote in message ... You are an experienced blue water sailor; you owned a Tartan 37 for several years and sailed in high-traffic waters around NJ and NY; you participate in PHRF races; you are a long-time participant on this ng, during which time you providee advice to novice sailors as to how to sail, rig, and maintain their boats....and you expect us to believe your ridiculous story about buying a Mac 26M? Give us a break. Jim Bob Miller wrote: Hi all. I owned a Mac26M for 3 weeks. I couldn't stand the thing. It was horrible. I live near Philly and bought the Mac from A1 sailboats in MD. They are nice folks and I have no qualms with them. But the boat itself was God awfull. Wouldn't plane, and I had a Merc Big Foot 50 , steered horrible under power. Can't sail worth a damn. Won't point at all. Wallows dangerously downwind and is slow slow SLOW to boot. I took it back to the dealer and because of a paper screw up I was reimbursed 98% of my money. I am now trying to decide weather to buy a real sailboat and a jetski or a power boat and a small sailing skiff. I will be moving to the Annapolis area come July. BM |
I was a 26 M owner
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I was a 26 M owner
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 06:38:33 -0500, Jim Cate wrote
this crap: This is obviously a troll. In the first place, an experienced sailor like yourself, indoctrinated with the ng propaganda against the Macs, would never have bought one in the first place. In the second place, you are obviously puttin us on, because the Mac26M clearly doesn't have any of the characteristics you claim for it. It planes easily, points high, and is fast, fast, fast. Only while motoring. Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
I was a 26 M owner
Bob Miller wrote: Hi all. I owned a Mac26M for 3 weeks. I couldn't stand the thing. It was horrible. I live near Philly and bought the Mac from A1 sailboats in MD. They are nice folks and I have no qualms with them. But the boat itself was God awfull. Wouldn't plane, and I had a Merc Big Foot 50 , steered horrible under power. Can't sail worth a damn. Won't point at all. Wallows dangerously downwind and is slow slow SLOW to boot. I took it back to the dealer and because of a paper screw up I was reimbursed 98% of my money. I am now trying to decide weather to buy a real sailboat and a jetski or a power boat and a small sailing skiff. I will be moving to the Annapolis area come July. BM Bob, when did you buy the Mac 26M, and how much did you pay for it. Did you write a check or obtain financing? And did you trade in your Tartan 37? Jim |
I was a 26 M owner
He wrote a check on your checking account.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Jim Cate" wrote in message ... Bob Miller wrote: Hi all. I owned a Mac26M for 3 weeks. I couldn't stand the thing. It was horrible. I live near Philly and bought the Mac from A1 sailboats in MD. They are nice folks and I have no qualms with them. But the boat itself was God awfull. Wouldn't plane, and I had a Merc Big Foot 50 , steered horrible under power. Can't sail worth a damn. Won't point at all. Wallows dangerously downwind and is slow slow SLOW to boot. I took it back to the dealer and because of a paper screw up I was reimbursed 98% of my money. I am now trying to decide weather to buy a real sailboat and a jetski or a power boat and a small sailing skiff. I will be moving to the Annapolis area come July. BM Bob, when did you buy the Mac 26M, and how much did you pay for it. Did you write a check or obtain financing? And did you trade in your Tartan 37? Jim |
I was a 26 M owner
"Jim Cate" wrote in message ...
Bob Miller wrote: Hi all. I owned a Mac26M for 3 weeks. I couldn't stand the thing. It was horrible. I live near Philly and bought the Mac from A1 sailboats in MD. They are nice folks and I have no qualms with them. But the boat itself was God awfull. Wouldn't plane, and I had a Merc Big Foot 50 , steered horrible under power. Can't sail worth a damn. Won't point at all. Wallows dangerously downwind and is slow slow SLOW to boot. I took it back to the dealer and because of a paper screw up I was reimbursed 98% of my money. I am now trying to decide weather to buy a real sailboat and a jetski or a power boat and a small sailing skiff. I will be moving to the Annapolis area come July. BM Bob, when did you buy the Mac 26M, and how much did you pay for it. Did you write a check or obtain financing? And did you trade in your Tartan 37? Jim I made the deal in Jan., picked up the piece of **** second week of March. Returned it March 27th. Paid $36,295. I used my American Express Gold card, that's why I was able to get my $$$ back, save for the $500 I bought some accessories with. What is a Tartan 37? Why are you so nosey? BM |
I was a 26 M owner
Yeah, really, like a Mac dealer would give you
your money back. Those boats must be so hard to sell, they'd never take one back. How many stupid people are there out there? They have to find total rookies to have any hope of selling one of these boats. If the dealers took boats back, they'd never sell anything. I'm sure new owners would want to take them back after learning what a horrible mistake they made. Two friends of mine bought a used boat and bragged about what a great deal they got. At first I was excited they bought a boat, but then Diane, saw my expression when she told me what they bought. I'm no actor. The fact I was stunned they boat a Mac 26 really seemed to shake her up. I was so sorry for them. How do you tell friends they got screwed and their boat would make a good reef, but perhaps they could sell the outboard and the beat up trailer to recoup some of their losses? Bart Senior Jim Cate wrote You are an experienced blue water sailor; you owned a Tartan 37 for several years and sailed in high-traffic waters around NJ and NY; you participate in PHRF races; you are a long-time participant on this ng, during which time you providee advice to novice sailors as to how to sail, rig, and maintain their boats....and you expect us to believe your ridiculous story about buying a Mac 26M? Give us a break. Jim Bob Miller wrote: Hi all. I owned a Mac26M for 3 weeks. I couldn't stand the thing. It was horrible. I live near Philly and bought the Mac from A1 sailboats in MD. They are nice folks and I have no qualms with them. But the boat itself was God awfull. Wouldn't plane, and I had a Merc Big Foot 50 , steered horrible under power. Can't sail worth a damn. Won't point at all. Wallows dangerously downwind and is slow slow SLOW to boot. I took it back to the dealer and because of a paper screw up I was reimbursed 98% of my money. I am now trying to decide weather to buy a real sailboat and a jetski or a power boat and a small sailing skiff. I will be moving to the Annapolis area come July. BM |
I was a 26 M owner
"N1EE" wrote in message
om... Yeah, really, like a Mac dealer would give you your money back. Those boats must be so hard to sell, they'd never take one back. How many stupid people are there out there? A lot. A WHOLE lot. They sell every one they make. If nothing else, the boat's a financial success for Macgreger company. They have to find total rookies to have any hope of selling one of these boats. That is who the boat and their ads are aimed at. , but perhaps they could sell the outboard and the beat up trailer to recoup some of their losses? The trailers are really crappy too, at least they were. Jim Cate wrote You are an experienced blue water sailor; you owned a Tartan 37 for several years and sailed in high-traffic waters around NJ and NY; you participate in PHRF races; you are a long-time participant on this ng, Who the hell is he talking about???????????????????????? SV |
I was a 26 M owner
Well, they sell a lot of the damn things. I have a family friend
who's one of the largest dealers on the west coast. They are rolling in $$. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "N1EE" wrote in message om... Yeah, really, like a Mac dealer would give you your money back. Those boats must be so hard to sell, they'd never take one back. How many stupid people are there out there? They have to find total rookies to have any hope of selling one of these boats. If the dealers took boats back, they'd never sell anything. I'm sure new owners would want to take them back after learning what a horrible mistake they made. Two friends of mine bought a used boat and bragged about what a great deal they got. At first I was excited they bought a boat, but then Diane, saw my expression when she told me what they bought. I'm no actor. The fact I was stunned they boat a Mac 26 really seemed to shake her up. I was so sorry for them. How do you tell friends they got screwed and their boat would make a good reef, but perhaps they could sell the outboard and the beat up trailer to recoup some of their losses? Bart Senior Jim Cate wrote You are an experienced blue water sailor; you owned a Tartan 37 for several years and sailed in high-traffic waters around NJ and NY; you participate in PHRF races; you are a long-time participant on this ng, during which time you providee advice to novice sailors as to how to sail, rig, and maintain their boats....and you expect us to believe your ridiculous story about buying a Mac 26M? Give us a break. Jim Bob Miller wrote: Hi all. I owned a Mac26M for 3 weeks. I couldn't stand the thing. It was horrible. I live near Philly and bought the Mac from A1 sailboats in MD. They are nice folks and I have no qualms with them. But the boat itself was God awfull. Wouldn't plane, and I had a Merc Big Foot 50 , steered horrible under power. Can't sail worth a damn. Won't point at all. Wallows dangerously downwind and is slow slow SLOW to boot. I took it back to the dealer and because of a paper screw up I was reimbursed 98% of my money. I am now trying to decide weather to buy a real sailboat and a jetski or a power boat and a small sailing skiff. I will be moving to the Annapolis area come July. BM |
I was a 26 M owner
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:27:00 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: Well, they sell a lot of the damn things. I have a family friend who's one of the largest dealers on the west coast. They are rolling in $$. Not where I live. They'd make more money if they sold rubber crutches. But we have real sailors here. Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
I was a 26 M owner
Then why are you "sailing" a hunter? Real sailors
avoid them with nearly the same intensity that they avoid Macs. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 20:27:00 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: Well, they sell a lot of the damn things. I have a family friend who's one of the largest dealers on the west coast. They are rolling in $$. Not where I live. They'd make more money if they sold rubber crutches. But we have real sailors here. Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
I was a 26 M owner
On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:39:51 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap: Then why are you "sailing" a hunter? Real sailors avoid them with nearly the same intensity that they avoid Macs. You don't know any real sailors, Jon-boy. Go back in your closet. Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
I was a 26 M owner
That's right. I don't know any real sailors who would
sail a piece of crap like your hunter. It's a boat you idiot. A closet (though familiar to you I'm sure) is not a boat. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 00:39:51 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz" wrote this crap: Then why are you "sailing" a hunter? Real sailors avoid them with nearly the same intensity that they avoid Macs. You don't know any real sailors, Jon-boy. Go back in your closet. Screw the rules! They're more like guidelines, anyways. |
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